He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
To answer the question, you have to be able to put yourself in the position to make the decision.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
To answer the question, you have to be able to put yourself in the position to make the decision.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.
democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.
democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.
democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
Who is the other one?
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.
democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.
democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.
democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.
democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.
democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.
democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
Where does this notion come from?
Bernies plan, word for word:
Create a Medicare for All, single-payer, national health insurance program.
so what happens with all the other insurance companies? im ok with it, I but don’t think 270 electors would be.
Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.
Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.
Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.
Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.
Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.
Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.
Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
Crime occurs where you put the cops.
Sure, socioeconomic conditions are irrelevant. In fact, before there was such a thing as a police force, it was like Eden.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.
democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
Where does this notion come from?
Bernies plan, word for word:
Create a Medicare for All, single-payer, national health insurance program.
so what happens with all the other insurance companies? im ok with it, I but don’t think 270 electors would be.
They adapt to a changing market or they dissolve, I guess. I've never heard a word about the government seizing insurance company assets. Maybe back when I listened to Rush Limbaugh for shit's and giggles, but never from a reasonable source. Where did you hear it?
Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.
Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.
Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.
This does not look so republican to me-
Create a Medicare-like public insurance option
Improve and expand enrollment in Affordable Care Act plans
Allow people to keep their private insurance
Cap health care prices
Lower drug costs
Expand access to dental, hearing, and vision coverage
Create a permanent reinsurance program that reduces customer premiums
Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.
Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.
Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.
This does not look so republican to me-
Create a Medicare-like public insurance option
Improve and expand enrollment in Affordable Care Act plans
Allow people to keep their private insurance
Cap health care prices
Lower drug costs
Expand access to dental, hearing, and vision coverage
Create a permanent reinsurance program that reduces customer premiums
A normal moderate Republican similar to Romney.
The spectrum has moved so far right that he seems almost left.
Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.
Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.
Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.
This does not look so republican to me-
Create a Medicare-like public insurance option
Improve and expand enrollment in Affordable Care Act plans
Allow people to keep their private insurance
Cap health care prices
Lower drug costs
Expand access to dental, hearing, and vision coverage
Create a permanent reinsurance program that reduces customer premiums
Talking more about his record than his platforms. He's running to be the Democrat nominee so platitudes like that are the minimal table stakes.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
The thing about Medicare that I don't really see discussed is that beneficiaries today still have plenty of out of pocket costs. They pay a premium. Most have a supplemental private plan that controls Medicare's coinsurance. Do people know that? Or do they think they'd be getting something free? Are candidates proposing to keep the current structure but just expand eligibility? Or are they purposefully staying away from all that?
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He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
The thing about Medicare that I don't really see discussed is that beneficiaries today still have plenty of out of pocket costs. They pay a premium. Most have a supplemental private plan that controls Medicare's coinsurance. Do people know that? Or do they think they'd be getting something free? Are candidates proposing to keep the current structure but just expand eligibility? Or are they purposefully staying away from all that?
This is correct. I have Medicare but no supplemental insurance. What Medicare doesn't cover is out of my pocket. And not everything is covered. No dental, only partly vision. No Shringrix vaccination (ouch! that one hurt twice!) Don't get me wrong- I feel fortunate to have what coverage I have through Medicare- but it isn't all covered, that's for sure.
Since we're on the subject of insurance- I know most here are not old enough to worry about it yet, but eventually you might want to consider long-term care insurance. We both did and it was a smart move. It is not something you want to be without when the time comes. I'm not there yet, (so no wise cracks you jokers, lol), but we are paying into it. Only $38 per month and could save us hugely in the future.
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BI writes about an international endorsement of the leader of that crazy up-to-no-good gang called the Bernie Bros.
Finland's millennial prime minister said Nordic countries do a better job of embodying the American dream than the US
Sanna Marin, the millennial prime minister of Finland, said her country and other Nordic nations were best equipped to provide their citizens a chance to achieve the American dream.
She told The Washington Post's Ishaan Tharoor at Davos, Switzerland, in January: "I feel that the American dream can be achieved best in the Nordic countries, where every child no matter their background or the background of their families can become anything."
The American dream is, at its most basic level, the idea that everyone should be given the opportunity to reach their life's goals and ambitions.
Finland can provide the American dream because of its public services, Marin said.
"We have a very good education system," she said. "We have a good healthcare and social-welfare system that allows anybody to become anything. This is probably one of the reasons why Finland gets ranked the happiest country in the world."
She warned, however, about forcing such a system on other countries.
"Every country's situation is different," she told The Post. "Every country's political atmosphere is different."
Marin, 34, became the world's youngest prime minister in December when she was chosen to lead her party, the Social Democrats, which has the most seats in the Finnish coalition government.
While she did not mention him by name, Marin's remarks to The Post suggested a tacit endorsement of Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, one of the frontrunners to secure the Democratic nomination in the 2020 US presidential election.
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.
This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while. If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums. It's a great strategy and proof of concept. M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance. I support choice.
Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me. I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.
Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?
Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.
And if you did?
That's the beauty of policy. There's almost always a third, fourth, or fifth way.
Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.
democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
Who is the other one?
Jonas Sjöstedt. Obviously.
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democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.
which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.
Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
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so what happens with all the other insurance companies?
im ok with it, I but don’t think 270 electors would be.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.
Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.
I've never heard a word about the government seizing insurance company assets.
Maybe back when I listened to Rush Limbaugh for shit's and giggles, but never from a reasonable source.
Where did you hear it?
The spectrum has moved so far right that he seems almost left.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Finland's millennial prime minister said Nordic countries do a better job of embodying the American dream than the US
Sanna Marin, the millennial prime minister of Finland, said her country and other Nordic nations were best equipped to provide their citizens a chance to achieve the American dream.
She told The Washington Post's Ishaan Tharoor at Davos, Switzerland, in January: "I feel that the American dream can be achieved best in the Nordic countries, where every child no matter their background or the background of their families can become anything."
The American dream is, at its most basic level, the idea that everyone should be given the opportunity to reach their life's goals and ambitions.
Finland can provide the American dream because of its public services, Marin said.
"We have a very good education system," she said. "We have a good healthcare and social-welfare system that allows anybody to become anything. This is probably one of the reasons why Finland gets ranked the happiest country in the world."
She warned, however, about forcing such a system on other countries.
"Every country's situation is different," she told The Post. "Every country's political atmosphere is different."
Marin, 34, became the world's youngest prime minister in December when she was chosen to lead her party, the Social Democrats, which has the most seats in the Finnish coalition government.
Marin, who has a working-class background, was the first person in her family to attend university and worked as a sales assistant during her studies.
While she did not mention him by name, Marin's remarks to The Post suggested a tacit endorsement of Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, one of the frontrunners to secure the Democratic nomination in the 2020 US presidential election.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sanna-marin-finland-nordic-model-does-american-dream-better-wapo-2020-2?r=US&IR=T