Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife." This is why I stay single.
Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.
My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies. Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that. But no girls lol.
Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha.
Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey.
Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it. [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single. It works for him. Bunch a know-it-alls here.]
Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar.
Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife." This is why I stay single.
Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.
My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies. Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that. But no girls lol.
Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha.
Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey.
Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it. [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single. It works for him. Bunch a know-it-alls here.]
Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar.
What about another man at the bar?
No judgements, just askin'.
I ll meet you for pizza and beer anytime.
Now, we are cooking with gas!
What’s next? In the Dutch oven?
I'm hurt to know that Scruffy would not go for a beer with me.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife." This is why I stay single.
Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.
My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies. Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that. But no girls lol.
Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha.
Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey.
Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it. [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single. It works for him. Bunch a know-it-alls here.]
Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar.
Rock your relationship.
This 'I know what works best for you (and everyone else) yet I am single' is blahblahblah.
I would like to clarify that that is NOT what I'm saying. I'm simply discussing the concept of men and women being friends and debating the justifications behind this that Scruffy's offering up because I think many, many men would come up with the same reasons, and I want to explore them. But FWIW, most middle ages single people were not always single. We are also surrounded by people in relationships. We do actually know what we're talking about a lot of the time when it comes to relationship dynamics in general. But no, not about each individual's relationship, when we don't even know the person, lol. I did think S_C's comment about it was out of line.
This wasn't out of line?
Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship.
I would reply with a heaping bowl of 'Suck Blue!' if some armchair psychologist tried to lay that garbage on me.
Sorry, all are free, of course, to go back to the repetition of the same argument, I am leaving now to hit a "pizza" bar up north and meet McGruff.
As a great poster once shared:
look into the mirrow, thats the stupid child over there.
Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife." This is why I stay single.
Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.
My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies. Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that. But no girls lol.
Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha.
Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey.
Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it. [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single. It works for him. Bunch a know-it-alls here.]
Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar.
Ok I haven't read the last 90 posts since I last came here but I'm with mcgruff FOR ONCE I have a very vast experience of relationships and it cannot work the way some are saying. Are you spiritual and pj soul ..single atm? Because that makes a huge difference in this conversation!
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From how I read the single people are cool with whatever but once you have a relationship a level of respect has to be there which is not on your radar when single
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Ok I haven't read the last 90 posts since I last came here but I'm with mcgruff FOR ONCE I have a very vast experience of relationships and it cannot work the way some are saying. Are you spiritual and pj soul ..single atm? Because that makes a huge difference in this conversation!
I am telling you is IS totally possible... Apparently YOU are simply not capable of it. And no, my current single status has no bearing because obviously I'm spending time with married men, as was made clear, and have been doing it through all my relationships that I've had since the age of 13, up through my common marriage (and no, my being single now has nothing to do with this issue, lol). My being currently single is completely irrelevant to this conversation. And I just find it EXTREMELY sad and disappointing and actually quite fucking sexist that people think platonic friendships between men and women can't work. And personally insulting that I'm confirming that they can (and I'm talking for decades with these same male friends), and apparently people aren't believing me?? I dunno. But my best friend in the entire world is a married man, and I was his best woman at his wedding. We have remained best friends through every relationship either one of us has ever been in, none of which were negatively impacted by our friendship in any way. My second best friend is my third best friend's husband. My 4th best friend is the married man whose wife happily picks him up from my place. You are wrong in thinking it cannot work. We are all just friends. Same as if it were two men or two women being friends. It's not that complicated FFS.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
From how I read the single people are cool with whatever but once you have a relationship a level of respect has to be there which is not on your radar when single
You're totally wrong, and don't understand how you arrived there after reading the conversation, since I'm talking exclusively about married men who have complete respect for their wives, and how none of this was ever impacted by any of my relationships.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Ok I haven't read the last 90 posts since I last came here but I'm with mcgruff FOR ONCE I have a very vast experience of relationships and it cannot work the way some are saying. Are you spiritual and pj soul ..single atm? Because that makes a huge difference in this conversation!
Yes!!!!!!! Allie, next pj pre party I ll meet you for a beer but I m not going camping with you for the week.
Ok I haven't read the last 90 posts since I last came here but I'm with mcgruff FOR ONCE I have a very vast experience of relationships and it cannot work the way some are saying. Are you spiritual and pj soul ..single atm? Because that makes a huge difference in this conversation!
Yes!!!!!!! Allie, next pj pre party I ll meet you for a beer but I m not going camping with you for the week.
Alright, deal.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
In my head I am going through all my friends and family and literally none of them have friends of the opposite gender. Maybe you guys are in the minority, not me.
You can add me and all my friends..nobody I know does that..hahah
In my head I am going through all my friends and family and literally none of them have friends of the opposite gender. Maybe you guys are in the minority, not me.
You can add me and all my friends..nobody I know does that..hahah
Ok I haven't read the last 90 posts since I last came here but I'm with mcgruff FOR ONCE I have a very vast experience of relationships and it cannot work the way some are saying. Are you spiritual and pj soul ..single atm? Because that makes a huge difference in this conversation!
I am telling you is IS totally possible... Apparently YOU are simply not capable of it. And no, my current single status has no bearing because obviously I'm spending time with married men, as was made clear, and have been doing it through all my relationships that I've had since the age of 13, up through my common marriage (and no, my being single now has nothing to do with this issue, lol). My being currently single is completely irrelevant to this conversation. And I just find it EXTREMELY sad and disappointing and actually quite fucking sexist that people think platonic friendships between men and women can't work. And personally insulting that I'm confirming that they can (and I'm talking for decades with these same male friends), and apparently people aren't believing me?? I dunno. But my best friend in the entire world is a married man, and I was his best woman at his wedding. We have remained best friends through every relationship either one of us has ever been in, none of which were negatively impacted by our friendship in any way. My second best friend is my third best friend's husband. My 4th best friend is the married man whose wife happily picks him up from my place. You are wrong in thinking it cannot work. We are all just friends. Same as if it were two men or two women being friends. It's not that complicated FFS.
It is sad when you are a woman who usually gets along better with guys than with other women, and you can't be friends because they're already with someone else. In my experience, it has had more to do with partners being concerned about emotional intimacy than physical intimacy. I'm not a big fan of small talk and like to talk about things that are none of my business, so I absolutely understand when their girlfriends or wives object. I haven't been able to swing the being friends with the significant other thing, so there you go. I can only be friends with single guys. It is just simpler that way.
And sometimes it is not even the woman who objects, it is the man who objects out of respect for his relationship. There are boundaries to be observed, so until I learn how to do that properly, attached men are acquaintances.
I only voted no because you've waited so long. I think you should. If you're nervous about rejjection??but really what can it hurt?? If you asked everyone because you're on the fence then no don't ask, find the girl you're compelled to ask. Fear of rejection wouldn't even be a thought.
McGruff what is a budweiser jim beam beer on the scale? They are really good imo.
I thought he was a crazy outlier, not the norm in (I think to a larger extent) the states. You need some social democratic values like a warm blanket.
Now I'm gonna work with the female copywriter here at work. Just the two of us in a conference room.
You are totally exaggerating this whole thing. I spend time alone with men all the time as well at work etc. I just think you haven't always been respectful in your responses in this thread. I'm not going to talk more about this now.
Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife." This is why I stay single.
Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.
My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies. Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that. But no girls lol.
Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha.
Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey.
Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it. [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single. It works for him. Bunch a know-it-alls here.]
Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar.
What about another man at the bar?
No judgements, just askin'.
I ll meet you for pizza and beer anytime.
Now, we are cooking with gas!
What’s next? In the Dutch oven?
I'm hurt to know that Scruffy would not go for a beer with me.
Fuck him, he didn't enjoY a beer with me either. JerseY boY was afraid of getting wet.
"A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife." This is why I stay single.
Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.
My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies. Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that. But no girls lol.
Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha.
Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey.
Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it. [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single. It works for him. Bunch a know-it-alls here.]
Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar.
What about another man at the bar?
No judgements, just askin'.
I ll meet you for pizza and beer anytime.
Now, we are cooking with gas!
What’s next? In the Dutch oven?
I'm hurt to know that Scruffy would not go for a beer with me.
Fuck him, he didn't enjoY a beer with me either. JerseY boY was afraid of getting wet.
I take full responsibility for not being able to meet up (in my defense that whole hour and a half was a complete cluster fuck). Although I did see you from afar you tall mo fo.
Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife." This is why I stay single.
Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.
My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies. Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that. But no girls lol.
Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha.
Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey.
Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it. [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single. It works for him. Bunch a know-it-alls here.]
Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar.
What about another man at the bar?
No judgements, just askin'.
I ll meet you for pizza and beer anytime.
Now, we are cooking with gas!
What’s next? In the Dutch oven?
I'm hurt to know that Scruffy would not go for a beer with me.
Fuck him, he didn't enjoY a beer with me either. JerseY boY was afraid of getting wet.
I take full responsibility for not being able to meet up (in my defense that whole hour and a half was a complete cluster fuck). Although I did see you from afar you tall mo fo.
Have you ever gone to Europe for PJ?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife." This is why I stay single.
Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.
My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies. Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that. But no girls lol.
Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha.
Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey.
Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it. [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single. It works for him. Bunch a know-it-alls here.]
Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar.
What about another man at the bar?
No judgements, just askin'.
I ll meet you for pizza and beer anytime.
Now, we are cooking with gas!
What’s next? In the Dutch oven?
I'm hurt to know that Scruffy would not go for a beer with me.
Fuck him, he didn't enjoY a beer with me either. JerseY boY was afraid of getting wet.
I take full responsibility for not being able to meet up (in my defense that whole hour and a half was a complete cluster fuck). Although I did see you from afar you tall mo fo.
Have you ever gone to Europe for PJ?
All 58 shows have been in the us and canada. I'd love to head to europe for a show.
Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife." This is why I stay single.
Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.
My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies. Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that. But no girls lol.
Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha.
Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey.
Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it. [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single. It works for him. Bunch a know-it-alls here.]
But no one is talking about it working or not, or criticize that different relationships have different rules. Please re-read the conversation.
Jumping in the middle here. But they did. It was said those rules were determined by insecurity or trust issues. That sounds like criticism to me. Thats what I didnt understand. If someone wants more open rules in their relationship, then fine. but when someone doesnt have the same rules that doesn't mean there are issues.
Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife." This is why I stay single.
Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.
My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies. Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that. But no girls lol.
Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha.
Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey.
Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it. [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single. It works for him. Bunch a know-it-alls here.]
But no one is talking about it working or not, or criticize that different relationships have different rules. Please re-read the conversation.
Jumping in the middle here. But they did. It was said those rules were determined by insecurity or trust issues. That sounds like criticism to me. Thats what I didnt understand. If someone wants more open rules in their relationship, then fine. but when someone doesnt have the same rules that doesn't mean there are issues.
But what is the reason for the rules. Rules do not exist out of...
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I have a very vast experience of relationships and it cannot work the way some are saying. Are you spiritual and pj soul ..single atm? Because that makes a huge difference in this conversation!
astoria 06
albany 06
hartford 06
reading 06
barcelona 06
paris 06
wembley 07
dusseldorf 07
nijmegen 07
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
astoria 06
albany 06
hartford 06
reading 06
barcelona 06
paris 06
wembley 07
dusseldorf 07
nijmegen 07
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
Allie, next pj pre party I ll meet you for a beer but I m not going camping with you for the week.
McGruff what is a budweiser jim beam beer on the scale? They are really good imo.
Budweiser Jim Beam beer trying and is really good
I thought he was a crazy outlier, not the norm in (I think to a larger extent) the states. You need some social democratic values like a warm blanket.
Now I'm gonna work with the female copywriter here at work. Just the two of us in a conference room.
You'll never meet her at a PJ pre-party with mcgruff buying everybody drinks
That is messed up.
But they did. It was said those rules were determined by insecurity or trust issues. That sounds like criticism to me. Thats what I didnt understand. If someone wants more open rules in their relationship, then fine. but when someone doesnt have the same rules that doesn't mean there are issues.
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