Should I ask Agnes out on a date?

F Me In The Brain

No

dankind said:

Head or gut?

Gut

F Me In The Brain

No

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

PJ_Soul said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

bbiggs said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife."  This is why I stay single.

Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.  

My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies.  Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that.  But no girls lol.  

Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha. 



Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey. 

Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it.  [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single.  It works for him.  Bunch a know-it-alls here.]

Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar. 

Rock your relationship. 

This 'I know what works best for you (and everyone else) yet I am single' is blahblahblah. 

I would like to clarify that that is NOT what I'm saying. I'm simply discussing the concept of men and women being friends and debating the justifications behind this that Scruffy's offering up because I think many, many men would come up with the same reasons, and I want to explore them. But FWIW, most middle ages single people were not always single. We are also surrounded by people in relationships. We do actually know what we're talking about a lot of the time when it comes to relationship dynamics in general. But no, not about each individual's relationship, when we don't even know the person, lol. I did think S_C's comment about it was out of line.

This wasn't out of line?

Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship.

I would reply with a heaping bowl of 'Suck Blue!' if some armchair psychologist tried to lay that garbage on me.

Sorry, all are free, of course, to go back to the repetition of the same argument, I am leaving now to hit a "pizza" bar up north and meet McGruff. 

As a great poster once shared:

look into the mirrow, thats the stupid child over there.

Haults Maul!

Armchair psychologists crack me up but at no point did I get angry.  Like I said, to each their own. I can't for the life of me understand married couples having separate savings and checking accounts.  Like you pay the mortgage and I pay for water bill this month.  It makes zero sense to me, but it works for that couple.  Not having friends of the opposite sex is what works for my wife and I and a lot of other people that I know.  I'm in a near perfect relationship.  My wife and I somehow work together (literally across the hall), juggle five kids here there and everywhere and somehow make time for each other pretty much every day.  I learned a hell of a lot from my first marriage.

No one is criticizing what works for you and your wife or anyone else. 

A couple having separate savings still have it for a reason. Not just because of "it just is that way". On the question; so why do you not have a joint saving? there is an answer telling why that is.

It doesn't affect how good they juggle X kids or how they have the time to hate You Are. But there is a reason for why.

Just like there is a reason for me waiting till tomorrow to ask Agnes.

I give up.  I'm waving the white flag.  I can't do this anymore.  My offer still stands, my passport is ready to be stamped by Swedish customs.  I will teach the ways of sweeping Agnes off her (it is her right?) feet.  Definitely clean up a little.  Do some manscaping and for the love of god order an actual burger and not a tofu burger.  Don't order a chardonnay or anything with a little umbrella in it.  Go simple, vodka/club with lime.  I pray you aren't a light weight.  Do not propose marriage to her after the first date.  Do not talk politics or religion.  

Always drink:

2.7 average rating based on 23,194 reviews on untappd.  Sounds like you need a better beer.  

Where does my Coors Light rank on your finger scale, Mike?

2.36 average rating based on 326,051 reviews on untappd.  Sounds like you also need a better beer.

While I appreciate you sharing what a bunch of pretentious beer drinking moles gave as feedback on my shitty watered down beer, it was my weak attempt at a quote reference to one of the greatest B-Buddy movies of all time, The Last Boy Scout

Great movie. Not a "B" movie though. Was the highest priced spec script at the time. Shane Black was paid like 1.5-2 million dollar for the script and it had a huge budget.

Could be true, I didn't know any of that.  Just went on the idea that it never tried to be anything it wasn't and a lot of people thought it was shit. 

Saw it 5-10 times in the theater when it came out and countless times since.

Junior year in high school and we used to bring in a sixer of beer each to watch. 

Good times.

Spiritual_Chaos

F Me In The Brain said:

Could be true, I didn't know any of that.  Just went on the idea that it never tried to be anything it wasn't and a lot of people thought it was shit. 

Saw it 5-10 times in the theater when it came out and countless times since.

Junior year in high school and we used to bring in a sixer of beer each to watch. 

Good times.

TrY reading the script, it's written to be reallY entertaining to the reader. 

bbiggs

^ Serious question. Why do you capitalize the letter Y? 

Spiritual_Chaos

bbiggs said:

^ Serious question. Why do you capitalize the letter Y? 

F Me In The Brain

No

Y

mcgruff10

Yes

WhY don’t You use a Yeti to avoid these tYpes of spills?

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

WhY don’t You use a Yeti to avoid these tYpes of spills?

What's a Yeti ?

mcgruff10

Yes

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

WhY don’t You use a Yeti to avoid these tYpes of spills?

What's a Yeti ?

A type of coffee cup that has a cover. No spillage. 

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

WhY don’t You use a Yeti to avoid these tYpes of spills?

What's a Yeti ?

A type of coffee cup that has a cover. No spillage. 

fuck . has one of those. too late now

mcgruff10

Yes

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

WhY don’t You use a Yeti to avoid these tYpes of spills?

What's a Yeti ?

A type of coffee cup that has a cover. No spillage. 

fuck . has one of those. too late now

Lol. I always use a covered coffe cup around the computer for that reason. 

Halifax2TheMax

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

bbiggs said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife."  This is why I stay single.

Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.  

My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies.  Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that.  But no girls lol.  

Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha. 



Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey. 

Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it.  [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single.  It works for him.  Bunch a know-it-alls here.]

Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar. 

What about another man at the bar?

No judgements, just askin'. 

I ll meet you for pizza and beer anytime.

Now, we are cooking with gas!

What’s next? In the Dutch oven?

PJ_Soul

Yes

Halifax2TheMax said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

bbiggs said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife."  This is why I stay single.

Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.  

My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies.  Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that.  But no girls lol.  

Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha. 



Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey. 

Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it.  [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single.  It works for him.  Bunch a know-it-alls here.]

Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar. 

What about another man at the bar?

No judgements, just askin'. 

I ll meet you for pizza and beer anytime.

Now, we are cooking with gas!

What’s next? In the Dutch oven?

I'm hurt to know that Scruffy would not go for a beer with me.

Halifax2TheMax

F Me In The Brain said:

PJ_Soul said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

bbiggs said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife."  This is why I stay single.

Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.  

My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies.  Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that.  But no girls lol.  

Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha. 



Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey. 

Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it.  [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single.  It works for him.  Bunch a know-it-alls here.]

Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar. 

Rock your relationship. 

This 'I know what works best for you (and everyone else) yet I am single' is blahblahblah. 

I would like to clarify that that is NOT what I'm saying. I'm simply discussing the concept of men and women being friends and debating the justifications behind this that Scruffy's offering up because I think many, many men would come up with the same reasons, and I want to explore them. But FWIW, most middle ages single people were not always single. We are also surrounded by people in relationships. We do actually know what we're talking about a lot of the time when it comes to relationship dynamics in general. But no, not about each individual's relationship, when we don't even know the person, lol. I did think S_C's comment about it was out of line.

This wasn't out of line?

Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship.

I would reply with a heaping bowl of 'Suck Blue!' if some armchair psychologist tried to lay that garbage on me.

Sorry, all are free, of course, to go back to the repetition of the same argument, I am leaving now to hit a "pizza" bar up north and meet McGruff. 

As a great poster once shared:

look into the mirrow, thats the stupid child over there.

Haults Maul!

Bahahahahahahaha!

Halifax2TheMax

And here’s your damn pizza!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ufSQMXLO95w

F Me In The Brain

No

Halifax2TheMax said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

bbiggs said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Most of the time a man can't even go out with his male buddies and have drinks or play golf or whatever without getting the third degree from "the wife."  This is why I stay single.

Sadly, this is accurate for most. I’d divorce my wife if she was this way. Although, I knew she wasn’t which is one of the many reasons that I married her.  

My wife definitely doesn't give me the third degree when I am hanging out with my buddies.  Every year we have a guys trip somewhere (snowboarding, nd football game, cabin in the woods with beer olympics) and she is cool with all that.  But no girls lol.  

Your digging yourself into a hole regarding this. Haha. 



Everyone is just waiting for the ball to drop, and you realizing there is insecurity and jealousy in your relationship. Which is okey. 

Not me, I am waiting for everyone to understand that every relationship works by its own rules (at least the best ones, imo) and stfu about it.  [Especially people who are unhappily married, divorced, or otherwise single.  It works for him.  Bunch a know-it-alls here.]

Seriously I have the best relationship ever. I have no clue why I am on the stand. This it works for us. I have zero interest in having female relationships or meeting another woman at the bar. 

What about another man at the bar?

No judgements, just askin'. 

I ll meet you for pizza and beer anytime.

Now, we are cooking with gas!

What’s next? In the Dutch oven?

Breaking out the ball gag.

lastexitlondon

Yes

Ok I haven't read the last 90 posts since I last came here but I'm with mcgruff FOR ONCE
I have a very vast experience  of relationships and it cannot work the way some are saying.  Are you spiritual  and pj soul ..single atm? Because  that makes a huge difference in this conversation!

lastexitlondon

Yes

From how I read the single people are cool with whatever  but once you have a relationship a level of respect has to be there which is not on your radar when single

PJ_Soul

Yes

lastexitlondon said:

Ok I haven't read the last 90 posts since I last came here but I'm with mcgruff FOR ONCE
I have a very vast experience  of relationships and it cannot work the way some are saying.  Are you spiritual  and pj soul ..single atm? Because  that makes a huge difference in this conversation!

I am telling you is IS totally possible... Apparently YOU are simply not capable of it. And no, my current single status has no bearing because obviously I'm spending time with married men, as was made clear, and have been doing it through all my relationships that I've had since the age of 13, up through my common marriage (and no, my being single now has nothing to do with this issue, lol). My being currently single is completely irrelevant to this conversation. And I just find it EXTREMELY sad and disappointing and actually quite fucking sexist that people think platonic friendships between men and women can't work. And personally insulting that I'm confirming that they can (and I'm talking for decades with these same male friends), and apparently people aren't believing me?? I dunno. But my best friend in the entire world is a married man, and I was his best woman at his wedding. We have remained best friends through every relationship either one of us has ever been in, none of which were negatively impacted by our friendship in any way. My second best friend is my third best friend's husband. My 4th best friend is the married man whose wife happily picks him up from my place. You are wrong in thinking it cannot work. We are all just friends. Same as if it were two men or two women being friends. It's not that complicated FFS.

PJ_Soul

Yes

lastexitlondon said:

From how I read the single people are cool with whatever  but once you have a relationship a level of respect has to be there which is not on your radar when single

You're totally wrong, and don't understand how you arrived there after reading the conversation, since I'm talking exclusively about married men who have complete respect for their wives, and how none of this was ever impacted by any of my relationships.