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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,621
    my2hands said:
    Hey idiot your not wanted in Pittsburgh today better yet you’re not needed !
    I don’t like spelling and grammar nazis....but I always laugh when I see “hey idiot” followed by the improper “you’re”/“your”.

    thanks for the unintended comedy. :)
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    my2hands said:
    Tiki said:

    Trump plans to sign executive order ending birthright citizenship




    let that sink in.

    This is crazy.

    And should quell the short sighted comment: guys guys... come on guys... enough of the Nazi comparisons already... okay?

    What's the objective here?
    people realize that only about 30 countries have birthright citizenship, right? Not sure we should fire up the Nazi rhetoric just yet. Not saying I'm for or against it, but a massive majority of nations do not have this law. I think it is cause for an interesting conversation, for sure, but there will be too much screaming back and forth to have an actual conversation about it.

    The idea of changing the constitution via executive order, now we are talking... i cant imagine conservative constitutionalists (is that a word? lol) being ok with this approach? 
    Your second paragraph, which I read, isn't relevant. Team Trump Treason is advocating for "changing the constitution" via executive order, he's willing to issue an EO and wait for it to be challenged in the courts as unconstitutional and hope that it eventually makes its way before the SC. You know the SC, the stacked one? This is not "changing the constitution," which requires an Amendment, but changing the way its interpreted, particularly the power of the executive. We saw it with the muslim ban, which eventually, parts of the EO were upheld by the SC. So, you can say its too early to fire up the nazi rhetoric but I think its too late. This is not a single event but part and parcel of Team Trump Treason's overall approach (Demonization of the press, which continues; muslim ban; demonization of immigrants and others; arguing for denying transgender rights; "fine people on both sides"; claiming he's a nationalist; belittling/mocking of dems or anyone who opposes his policies) And should the SC uphold this EO or parts of it, where does it end? How does it play out? And who does it impact? What other rights might we see eroded? See Sessions, Jeff; Justice, Department of; Transgender and Employment. Remember all of the criticism Obama took for issuing EOs? Oh, the outrage.

    And who's yelling and screaming?
    i dont necessarily disagree with you... a few things i would love to expand on but I'm tight on time... but in short, elections have consequences... they got to nominate 2 conservative SCOTUS, and those conservatives leaning judges may see the law and the world differently than a progressive like you or i, isnt democracy beautiful, that doesnt make them evil or wrong necessarily... 

    With that said, we all might want to say a few extra prayers tonight for The Notorious RBG 

    Birthright citizenship, however, is very interesting and frankly im a little indifferent about it... im not opposed to it... but i dont think it would be a big deal to not have it... maybe more on that later 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,765
    A completely partisan SCOTUS judge most certainly is wrong, if not evil (though I think Kavanaugh in particular is probably rather evil too).
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  • cincybearcat
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    Hey idiot your not wanted in Pittsburgh today better yet you’re not needed !
    I don’t like spelling and grammar nazis....but I always laugh when I see “hey idiot” followed by the improper “you’re”/“your”.

    thanks for the unintended comedy. :)
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    Awesome!!! 
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  • Jason P
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    Tiki said:
    The 19 year old in the mail room has probably never seen a cassette tape before.  (i hope they at least know what a CD is and don't think music magically manifests from spotify ...)  Good thing it wasn't a Parliament Funk vinyl!

    That said, what kind of sick bastard sends anonymous Journey cassette tapes to people?
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  • Jason P said:
    Tiki said:
    The 19 year old in the mail room has probably never seen a cassette tape before.  (i hope they at least know what a CD is and don't think music magically manifests from spotify ...)  Good thing it wasn't a Parliament Funk vinyl!

    That said, what kind of sick bastard sends anonymous Journey cassette tapes to people?
    There ought to be a law against that.
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  • tbergs
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    Jason P said:
    Tiki said:
    The 19 year old in the mail room has probably never seen a cassette tape before.  (i hope they at least know what a CD is and don't think music magically manifests from spotify ...)  Good thing it wasn't a Parliament Funk vinyl!

    That said, what kind of sick bastard sends anonymous Journey cassette tapes to people?
    There ought to be a law against that.
    Journey; barf!
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJ_Soul said:
    A completely partisan SCOTUS judge most certainly is wrong, if not evil (though I think Kavanaugh in particular is probably rather evil too).
    And when W appointed conservative Justice Roberts upheld Obamacare was the world coming to an end on a slippery slope to fascism? 

    Now because a Supreme Court Justice is nominated by a republican we should assume they are nazi's whose decisions will destoy the constitution and democracy in America?

    Not everybody is a progressive, that diesnt mean they are wrong or evil or whatever. They have a different view and opinion, thats all. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,765
    edited October 2018
    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    A completely partisan SCOTUS judge most certainly is wrong, if not evil (though I think Kavanaugh in particular is probably rather evil too).
    And when W appointed conservative Justice Roberts upheld Obamacare was the world coming to an end on a slippery slope to fascism? 

    Now because a Supreme Court Justice is nominated by a republican we should assume they are nazi's whose decisions will destoy the constitution and democracy in America?

    Not everybody is a progressive, that diesnt mean they are wrong or evil or whatever. They have a different view and opinion, thats all. 
    I don't know why you keep making these comparisons. They make no sense. Apples and oranges. I don't care who you hate more - W and Trump are not comparable, especially not when it comes to fascist tendencies. Again you're ignoring everything that Trump stands for with such a comment. Forget about W. He's gone now. I couldn't care less about him at this point, and he has nothing to do with what's going on now. I don't know why you keep thinking this comparison is relevant... I guess it's because of all the assumptions you make about why people think what they do. And I don't consider this a partisan issue, except for the fact that Kavanaugh is completely lacking in impartiality, which is probably the single most important quality for any SCOTUS judge (the whole SCOTUS is clearly lacking that, which means it is completely broken, and this being sustained and worsened should be a massive concern for anyone). This has NOTHING to do with being left or right wing as far as I'm concerned (by that I don't mean being a Trumpster - being right and being a Trumpster are often two different things IMO).
    Um, er, I think Kavanaugh is evil because I believe he sexually assaulted women dude, and because he is a man who thinks it's appropriate to be an overtly partisan SCOTUS judge who lies during Senate hearings. Did you forget about that already?
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited October 2018
    My point had nothing to do with W,  or Trump... my point was Roberts shocked the right & left when he decided the Obamacare case... you know what happens when you assume? the right said we were sliding to socialism, fascism, whateverism when all that went down... my point is simple, win elections and you nominate judges... they are intelligent and well educated judges, not evil monsters... now I'm supposed to start demonizing them just because i see the world differently and may disagree on issues? 

    The demonization of "the other side" by BOTH sides is flat out fucking ridiculous at this point. Nazis, facism, totalitarianism, blah, blah, blah... just stop, it's ridiculous, and we sound like the GOP and tea party in the Obama years screaming about nonsense and death panels 

    The sky is not falling
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  • ikiT
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    More COPS as PROPS in the Pitt.

    POS
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    This is what the news, and here, have sounded like since November 2016

    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS!
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!
    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS! 
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!


    Although, Trump probably does hate puppies lol
  • my2hands said:
    This is what the news, and here, have sounded like since November 2016

    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS!
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!
    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS! 
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!


    Although, Trump probably does hate puppies lol
    Why are you screaming and yelling?
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited October 2018
    my2hands said:
    This is what the news, and here, have sounded like since November 2016

    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS!
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!
    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS! 
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!


    Although, Trump probably does hate puppies lol
    Why are you screaming and yelling?
    WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? :)
    Post edited by my2hands on
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    my2hands said:
    This is what the news, and here, have sounded like since November 2016

    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS!
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!
    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS! 
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!


    Although, Trump probably does hate puppies lol
    Yawn.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,787
    my2hands said:
    This is what the news, and here, have sounded like since November 2016

    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS!
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!
    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS! 
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!


    Although, Trump probably does hate puppies lol
    what you don't seem to get is that, for many people, real living human beings, many of these things are incredibly serious. do they effect me directly? as a canadian, obviously not, but even if i was an american, a lot of this wouldn't apply to me directly. but it DOES apply to a lot of people, especially women and POC. and i don't want to live in a world where it's ok to discriminate against anybody, especially not only accepted by the government, but fucking encouraged. 

    no one is saying the sky is falling. but there's real reason for concern here. just because you don't give a shit doesn't mean it isn't happening. 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,396
    my2hands said:
    This is what the news, and here, have sounded like since November 2016

    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS!
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!
    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS! 
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!


    Although, Trump probably does hate puppies lol
    I'm a bit confused. A few pages I thought we agreed that the future is grim and the damages to date are irreversible. I thought we also agreed about the futility of any efforts to change that future, yourself admitting that you've given up on trying to make changes to this broken system.

    With the above being said (and ironically with your agreement that the world is ending), why do you feel the right to mock people's efforts to try to learn and/or engage about the current climate? Do you consider that productive or do you simply possess nihilistic tendencies and you're just passing time? I personally don't feel credible to advise one way or another, because I'm not mentally spending energy on fixing anymore and feel I've waived that right. I'm curious why you do.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited October 2018
    benjs said:
    my2hands said:
    This is what the news, and here, have sounded like since November 2016

    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS!
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!
    THE WORLD IS ENDING!
    OUTRAGE!
    RACISTS!
    SEXISTS!
    MORONS!
    NAZIS! 
    DOOM!
    THEY HATE PUPPIES!


    Although, Trump probably does hate puppies lol

    why do you feel the right to mock people's efforts to try to learn and/or engage about the current climate?
    This is the thing... you've seen efforts to learn or engage since November 2016? And I'm not talking about people here at all, I'm talking about in general? Do we see efforts to learn and engage from either major party? Any major news network? Social media? How would you generalize the level of conversation and discourse, by both sides? Thats my whole point, there is no conversation, its all yelling. Its all tribal. Its all toxic. Both sides, whether we like it or not. Now Democrats/progressives openly stereotype and demonize "the other side" without batting an eye. Just read any thread here, its pure toxuc sludge pouring out. Morons. Piece of shit. Scum. Idiots. Racists. Deplorables. Evil. Nazis. And we're supposed to be the good guys??? This also includes me, i readily admit it, i did and still do the same thing. But i feel like i realized the error of our ways recently and how we had become what we hate. We had become judgemental, harsh, dismissive, rude, mean, combative, and far too angry to engage rationally. 

    I have a lot of respect for the posters here, on all sides, and there are some VERY bright people. This is why i still post here, been around a while, and plan on being here a while. 

    As a fairly staunch progressive i think I've decided the healthiest thing to do is to challenge other progressives, engage with independents/moderates, and listen to conservatives to find common ground. 
    Post edited by my2hands on
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    the healthiest thing to do is to turn into a Russian Bot
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Smellyman said:
    the healthiest thing to do is to turn into a Russian Bot
    Thanks for helping make my point
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