A few of the individuals who have committed these mass shootings would be considered mentally ill, but most are not. Most violence, including serious mass violence, is due more to uncontrolled anger and rage, often fuelled by alcohol and drugs.
Uncontrolled anger and rage would qualify as a mental illness. Intermittent Explosive Disorder would be the diagnosis.
I have no problem with talking about ways to limit gun ownership and attempts to identify who poses the highest risk, but we have to remember that most of the time that isn’t someone who is mentally ill. Let’s not try to foist the responsibility for this issue onto the mentally ill; they have difficult enough burdens to carry.
Other than stupid Trump, I don't think anyone is trying to foist any responsibility on to the mentally ill community. Or at least I'm not. I just think that they shouldn't be able to buy guns.
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A few of the individuals who have committed these mass shootings would be considered mentally ill, but most are not. Most violence, including serious mass violence, is due more to uncontrolled anger and rage, often fuelled by alcohol and drugs.
Uncontrolled anger and rage would qualify as a mental illness. Intermittent Explosive Disorder would be the diagnosis.
I have no problem with talking about ways to limit gun ownership and attempts to identify who poses the highest risk, but we have to remember that most of the time that isn’t someone who is mentally ill. Let’s not try to foist the responsibility for this issue onto the mentally ill; they have difficult enough burdens to carry.
Other than stupid Trump, I don't think anyone is trying to foist any responsibility on to the mentally ill community. Or at least I'm not. I just think that they shouldn't be able to buy guns.
The act of saying that killing people means that you’re mentally ill is putting the responsibility for these killings on those who are mentally ill, because that’s how you’re defining it.
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China literally dropped the hammer in the trade war, devaluing the yuan. Mass correction happening, which is overdue. The reality is that the recession is here. -900 is pretty massive.
China literally dropped the hammer in the trade war, devaluing the yuan. Mass correction happening, which is overdue. The reality is that the recession is here. -900 is pretty massive.
A few of the individuals who have committed these mass shootings would be considered mentally ill, but most are not. Most violence, including serious mass violence, is due more to uncontrolled anger and rage, often fuelled by alcohol and drugs.
Uncontrolled anger and rage would qualify as a mental illness. Intermittent Explosive Disorder would be the diagnosis.
I have no problem with talking about ways to limit gun ownership and attempts to identify who poses the highest risk, but we have to remember that most of the time that isn’t someone who is mentally ill. Let’s not try to foist the responsibility for this issue onto the mentally ill; they have difficult enough burdens to carry.
Other than stupid Trump, I don't think anyone is trying to foist any responsibility on to the mentally ill community. Or at least I'm not. I just think that they shouldn't be able to buy guns.
Inevitably someone is going to say to this “you have to be mentally ill to kill people”. No, you don’t.
If you murder a dozen strangers with an assault rifle for no reason, you're mentally ill.
The criteria for intermittent explosive disorder are specific and do not apply to the typical instances in which these shootings occur.
And once again, no, killing people does not a mental disorder make, as much as people would like it to be so.
Does not a mental disorder make? Sounds like something Niles would say on Frazier.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. You think people that murder others for no reason are angry and fueled by alcohol and drugs, and I think they're fucking crazy. Not "crazy" in that they aren't able to control themselves. "Crazy" in that they've thought this out, planned it, and concluded that murdering a bunch of people is the best course of action for them. That's fucking crazy.
A few of the individuals who have committed these mass shootings would be considered mentally ill, but most are not. Most violence, including serious mass violence, is due more to uncontrolled anger and rage, often fuelled by alcohol and drugs.
Uncontrolled anger and rage would qualify as a mental illness. Intermittent Explosive Disorder would be the diagnosis.
I have no problem with talking about ways to limit gun ownership and attempts to identify who poses the highest risk, but we have to remember that most of the time that isn’t someone who is mentally ill. Let’s not try to foist the responsibility for this issue onto the mentally ill; they have difficult enough burdens to carry.
Other than stupid Trump, I don't think anyone is trying to foist any responsibility on to the mentally ill community. Or at least I'm not. I just think that they shouldn't be able to buy guns.
Inevitably someone is going to say to this “you have to be mentally ill to kill people”. No, you don’t.
If you murder a dozen strangers with an assault rifle for no reason, you're mentally ill.
As per the diagnostic criteria for IED, “these acts are impulsive and are not premeditated...”
Which eliminates any mass shooting for which the shooter planned, acquired weapons, traveled to a specific location, posted about online.... so essentially every recent mass shooting we have knowledge about.
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Okay then. Rule out IED since it doesn't fit the criteria. But I still think that people that carry out these shootings are mentally ill. Even if the DSM doesn't have a specific diagnosis. A generic diagnosis of "fucking crazy" will do.
I would qualify "voting for Donald Trump" as a sign of being mentally ill.
But maybe we can meet half way and just call them "sick in their racists little heads", and leave the mentally ill as a diagnose for when doctors actually decides that someone is mentally ill?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
China literally dropped the hammer in the trade war, devaluing the yuan. Mass correction happening, which is overdue. The reality is that the recession is here. -900 is pretty massive.
China literally dropped the hammer in the trade war, devaluing the yuan. Mass correction happening, which is overdue. The reality is that the recession is here. -900 is pretty massive.
Okay then. Rule out IED since it doesn't fit the criteria. But I still think that people that carry out these shootings are mentally ill. Even if the DSM doesn't have a specific diagnosis. A generic diagnosis of "fucking crazy" will do.
“Angry racists” does just fine for me. I philosophically object to medicalizing racism. That’s one step closer to the “he couldn’t help it” argument.
Could make it “angry male racists” for further clarity” but that tends to ruffle feathers.
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Okay then. Rule out IED since it doesn't fit the criteria. But I still think that people that carry out these shootings are mentally ill. Even if the DSM doesn't have a specific diagnosis. A generic diagnosis of "fucking crazy" will do.
“Angry racists” does just fine for me. I philosophically object to medicalizing racism. That’s one step closer to the “he couldn’t help it” argument.
Could make it “angry male racists” for further clarity” but that tends to ruffle feathers.
But how many of these mass shootings are racially motivated? I know the one in El Paso appears to very much be. But with most of the others, it doesn't seem like the shooter had much more intention than to kill whoever they can kill.
I would qualify "voting for Donald Trump" as a sign of being mentally ill.
That's possible. Liking Load better than Kill 'Em All and Justice For All is right up there too though.
This cannot be a real thing. They've done nothing worthy since Justice.
Nothing more expected and tired than the "only the 80s output count" crowd.
Trump would say something similiar. "They really lost their edge after Justice. Believe me. Sad. James took singing lessons. I have never taken singing lessons. believe me. Supersad. Ivanka would be the best groupie. Would say no to Lars. Only yes to James. maybe Jason. And me."
I would qualify "voting for Donald Trump" as a sign of being mentally ill.
That's possible. Liking Load better than Kill 'Em All and Justice For All is right up there too though.
This cannot be a real thing. They've done nothing worthy since Justice.
Nothing more expected and tired than the "only the 80s output count" crowd.
Trump would say something similiar. "They really lost their edge after Justice. Believe me. Sad. James took singing lessons. I have never taken singing lessons. believe me. Supersad. Ivanka would be the best groupie. Would say no to Lars. Only yes to James. maybe Jason. And me."
Metallica became a bunch of corporatist, jingoist ballad writers after Justice. They left behind every principle that made them who they were for the first five albums (I'm including Garage). They fucking suck. Fuck them. They were even dickheads at CC's tribute show. And your comment is even dumber because I hate the fucking 80's more than I hate Metallica.
I would qualify "voting for Donald Trump" as a sign of being mentally ill.
That's possible. Liking Load better than Kill 'Em All and Justice For All is right up there too though.
This cannot be a real thing. They've done nothing worthy since Justice.
Nothing more expected and tired than the "only the 80s output count" crowd.
Trump would say something similiar. "They really lost their edge after Justice. Believe me. Sad. James took singing lessons. I have never taken singing lessons. believe me. Supersad. Ivanka would be the best groupie. Would say no to Lars. Only yes to James. maybe Jason. And me."
Metallica became a bunch of corporatist, jingoist ballad writers after Justice. They left behind every principle that made them who they were for the first five albums (I'm including Garage). They fucking suck. Fuck them. They were even dickheads at CC's tribute show. And your comment is even dumber because I hate the fucking 80's more than I hate Metallica.
You didn't understand my comment it seems. Which would make your comment dumber than mine though.
the "too cool for a ballad" people... I tell ya
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I would qualify "voting for Donald Trump" as a sign of being mentally ill.
That's possible. Liking Load better than Kill 'Em All and Justice For All is right up there too though.
This cannot be a real thing. They've done nothing worthy since Justice.
Nothing more expected and tired than the "only the 80s output count" crowd.
Trump would say something similiar. "They really lost their edge after Justice. Believe me. Sad. James took singing lessons. I have never taken singing lessons. believe me. Supersad. Ivanka would be the best groupie. Would say no to Lars. Only yes to James. maybe Jason. And me."
Metallica became a bunch of corporatist, jingoist ballad writers after Justice. They left behind every principle that made them who they were for the first five albums (I'm including Garage). They fucking suck. Fuck them. They were even dickheads at CC's tribute show. And your comment is even dumber because I hate the fucking 80's more than I hate Metallica.
You didn't understand my comment it seems. Which would make your comment dumber than mine though.
I would qualify "voting for Donald Trump" as a sign of being mentally ill.
That's possible. Liking Load better than Kill 'Em All and Justice For All is right up there too though.
This cannot be a real thing. They've done nothing worthy since Justice.
Nothing more expected and tired than the "only the 80s output count" crowd.
Trump would say something similiar. "They really lost their edge after Justice. Believe me. Sad. James took singing lessons. I have never taken singing lessons. believe me. Supersad. Ivanka would be the best groupie. Would say no to Lars. Only yes to James. maybe Jason. And me."
Metallica became a bunch of corporatist, jingoist ballad writers after Justice. They left behind every principle that made them who they were for the first five albums (I'm including Garage). They fucking suck. Fuck them. They were even dickheads at CC's tribute show. And your comment is even dumber because I hate the fucking 80's more than I hate Metallica.
You didn't understand my comment it seems. Which would make your comment dumber than mine though.
the "too cool for a ballad" people... I tell ya
If I can't decipher your comment, it's not on me.
Narrator: It actually was
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I would qualify "voting for Donald Trump" as a sign of being mentally ill.
That's possible. Liking Load better than Kill 'Em All and Justice For All is right up there too though.
This cannot be a real thing. They've done nothing worthy since Justice.
Nothing more expected and tired than the "only the 80s output count" crowd.
Trump would say something similiar. "They really lost their edge after Justice. Believe me. Sad. James took singing lessons. I have never taken singing lessons. believe me. Supersad. Ivanka would be the best groupie. Would say no to Lars. Only yes to James. maybe Jason. And me."
Metallica became a bunch of corporatist, jingoist ballad writers after Justice. They left behind every principle that made them who they were for the first five albums (I'm including Garage). They fucking suck. Fuck them. They were even dickheads at CC's tribute show. And your comment is even dumber because I hate the fucking 80's more than I hate Metallica.
You didn't understand my comment it seems. Which would make your comment dumber than mine though.
the "too cool for a ballad" people... I tell ya
If I can't decipher your comment, it's not on me.
Narrator: It actually was
Nothing more expected and tired than the "only the 80s output count" crowd.
Seems obvious this was a lame dig. People who grew up with Metallica and were around, and got to see them with Cliff (I saw them open for Ozzy), generally write off their "sell out" years when they went all "Slippery When Wet". And then they decided to go after Napster. And made fun of Layne because of his addictions. And now they decide to sell tickets directly to scalpers because they don't think they're pricing them high enough. 88K tickets. Like I said.. bunch of assholes. Maybe they've always been that way (probably), but for those of us that pay attention, it became obvious in 91. https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2019/07/19/live-nation-scalper-metallica-recorded/
Okay then. Rule out IED since it doesn't fit the criteria. But I still think that people that carry out these shootings are mentally ill. Even if the DSM doesn't have a specific diagnosis. A generic diagnosis of "fucking crazy" will do.
“Angry racists” does just fine for me. I philosophically object to medicalizing racism. That’s one step closer to the “he couldn’t help it” argument.
Could make it “angry male racists” for further clarity” but that tends to ruffle feathers.
But how many of these mass shootings are racially motivated? I know the one in El Paso appears to very much be. But with most of the others, it doesn't seem like the shooter had much more intention than to kill whoever they can kill.
You’re right, I don’t think all are racially motivated, though many are. The shooting at the black church was racially motivated. The shooting at the synagogue was anti-Semitic, so a similar motivation. That one night club shooting seemed to be targeting the LGBTQ community; not a race, but an identifiable and vulnerable community.
Hatred of “the other”.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
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Other than stupid Trump, I don't think anyone is trying to foist any responsibility on to the mentally ill community. Or at least I'm not. I just think that they shouldn't be able to buy guns.
If you murder a dozen strangers with an assault rifle for no reason, you're mentally ill.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/markets-now-stocks-sink-chinas-134045505.html
And once again, no, killing people does not a mental disorder make, as much as people would like it to be so.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. You think people that murder others for no reason are angry and fueled by alcohol and drugs, and I think they're fucking crazy. Not "crazy" in that they aren't able to control themselves. "Crazy" in that they've thought this out, planned it, and concluded that murdering a bunch of people is the best course of action for them. That's fucking crazy.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Which eliminates any mass shooting for which the shooter planned, acquired weapons, traveled to a specific location, posted about online.... so essentially every recent mass shooting we have knowledge about.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
But maybe we can meet half way and just call them "sick in their racists little heads", and leave the mentally ill as a diagnose for when doctors actually decides that someone is mentally ill?
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Could make it “angry male racists” for further clarity” but that tends to ruffle feathers.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Trump would say something similiar. "They really lost their edge after Justice. Believe me. Sad. James took singing lessons. I have never taken singing lessons. believe me. Supersad. Ivanka would be the best groupie. Would say no to Lars. Only yes to James. maybe Jason. And me."
the "too cool for a ballad" people... I tell ya
https://apple.news/Az1TJ3zGnSQeh95GxwsX-dA
Republican state lawmaker criticizes his party for 'enabling white supremacy'
Seems obvious this was a lame dig. People who grew up with Metallica and were around, and got to see them with Cliff (I saw them open for Ozzy), generally write off their "sell out" years when they went all "Slippery When Wet". And then they decided to go after Napster. And made fun of Layne because of his addictions. And now they decide to sell tickets directly to scalpers because they don't think they're pricing them high enough. 88K tickets. Like I said.. bunch of assholes. Maybe they've always been that way (probably), but for those of us that pay attention, it became obvious in 91.
https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2019/07/19/live-nation-scalper-metallica-recorded/
Tariffs that send us into recession? Check. Who thought that was a good idea?
Shit for brains.
Hatred of “the other”.