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    "O'Rourke's birth name is Robert, but he was nicknamed 'Beto' as a child by his parents since he has the same name as his grandfather. The former congressman is Irish, but his ancestors settled in El Paso. 'Beto' is a common Spanish nickname."

    If his parents called him that early on that is interesting.  Thank u.

    For the record I do like him.  Saw him on a few interviews and he is likable. 
    @PJPOWER tell him that joke you like so much, about Beto drumming.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2019
    "O'Rourke's birth name is Robert, but he was nicknamed 'Beto' as a child by his parents since he has the same name as his grandfather. The former congressman is Irish, but his ancestors settled in El Paso. 'Beto' is a common Spanish nickname."

    If his parents called him that early on that is interesting.  Thank u.

    For the record I do like him.  Saw him on a few interviews and he is likable. 
    @PJPOWER tell him that joke you like so much, about Beto drumming.

    I’ve only ever seen him air-drum...

    Mr. Bean does it better.  Is Mr. Bean running?  Seems like some solid competition if so!
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,120
    "O'Rourke's birth name is Robert, but he was nicknamed 'Beto' as a child by his parents since he has the same name as his grandfather. The former congressman is Irish, but his ancestors settled in El Paso. 'Beto' is a common Spanish nickname."

    If his parents called him that early on that is interesting.  Thank u.

    For the record I do like him.  Saw him on a few interviews and he is likable. 
    He's come across much better on tv recently than he does on stage.  On stage he is awful.  
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    "O'Rourke's birth name is Robert, but he was nicknamed 'Beto' as a child by his parents since he has the same name as his grandfather. The former congressman is Irish, but his ancestors settled in El Paso. 'Beto' is a common Spanish nickname."

    If his parents called him that early on that is interesting.  Thank u.

    For the record I do like him.  Saw him on a few interviews and he is likable. 
    He's come across much better on tv recently than he does on stage.  On stage he is awful.  
    He and Biden are, to me, a bit similar in that sense. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,120
    Trump urges Trump over anything
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,053
    Trump urges Trump over anything
    Something about Trump that I find alarming is if people really are taking his words to task and opening a pandoras box or not.

    I do remember Obama getting shit for NOT using his words on certain things.

    If this is the world to come then he has got to come across better than what he is doing.  I still think a bunch of it is blown out of proportion.  
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,247
    Trump urges Trump over anything
    Something about Trump that I find alarming is if people really are taking his words to task and opening a pandoras box or not.

    I do remember Obama getting shit for NOT using his words on certain things.

    If this is the world to come then he has got to come across better than what he is doing.  I still think a bunch of it is blown out of proportion.  
    He's a fucking idiot and unfortunately other fucking idiots take his words to task because they are hateful pieces of shit who feel empowered to do something because he's great at fear mongering and spreading divisive rhetoric. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    The great negotiator.

    The cost of Trump's new Air Force One has skyrocketed nearly $2 billion from the original estimate


    • The new Air Force One will cost the Pentagon $5.2 billion, according to the Defense Department's first formal acquisition report for the aircraft.
    • In 2016, it was estimated that the new aircraft would cost $3.2 billion. A year later, President Donald Trump said he negotiated the planes' cost down by $1 billion.
    • The converted Boeing 747s are set to be delivered in 2024, although Trump has requested that they be delivered in 2021.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/air-force-one-pentagon-52-billion-2019-8?utm_source=reddit.com
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Like him or hate him.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,310
    Trump.  Still the POTUS.  Like him or hate him.  The POTUS
    Sexual predator, rapist , racist , divider , please post one good human quality he possesses just one ☝️ and will you be voting for him in 2020 ...
    Admitted hater here so you don’t have to ask me ...
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    And now he's trying the whataboutism gambit. ugh. I can't imagine anyone feeling consolation while he just keeps stirring... I couldn't be more disgusted. Stay safe everyone.
    Falling down,...not staying down
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,053
    Kat said:
    And now he's trying the whataboutism gambit. ugh. I can't imagine anyone feeling consolation while he just keeps stirring... I couldn't be more disgusted. Stay safe everyone.
    Halifax is right when he says that certain things have become the norm.  It has become normal for his behavior, that is what he is.  To think he is going to change would be crazy, actually I'd be scared.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,649
    Kat said:
    And now he's trying the whataboutism gambit. ugh. I can't imagine anyone feeling consolation while he just keeps stirring... I couldn't be more disgusted. Stay safe everyone.
    Halifax is right when he says that certain things have become the norm.  It has become normal for his behavior, that is what he is.  To think he is going to change would be crazy, actually I'd be scared.
    It’s not just Team Trump Treason’s behavior or rhetoric but that of white nationalist in that the “manifestos” and online chat room discussions or postings are having their message content broadcast in “legitimate” forums like the WSJ, Washington Times, NYT, Faux News in the form of editorials and commentary or by a talking head. The language is slicker, more “intellectual” but the underlying theme, message or dog whistle is the same.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Kat said:
    And now he's trying the whataboutism gambit. ugh. I can't imagine anyone feeling consolation while he just keeps stirring... I couldn't be more disgusted. Stay safe everyone.
    Halifax is right when he says that certain things have become the norm.  It has become normal for his behavior, that is what he is.  To think he is going to change would be crazy, actually I'd be scared.
    It’s not just Team Trump Treason’s behavior or rhetoric but that of white nationalist in that the “manifestos” and online chat room discussions or postings are having their message content broadcast in “legitimate” forums like the WSJ, Washington Times, NYT, Faux News in the form of editorials and commentary or by a talking head. The language is slicker, more “intellectual” but the underlying theme, message or dog whistle is the same.
    the message USED to be on Brietbart and the Daily Stormer...

    I don't know what's worse. 


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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited August 2019
    now you can find it here...

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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,053
    Kat said:
    And now he's trying the whataboutism gambit. ugh. I can't imagine anyone feeling consolation while he just keeps stirring... I couldn't be more disgusted. Stay safe everyone.
    Halifax is right when he says that certain things have become the norm.  It has become normal for his behavior, that is what he is.  To think he is going to change would be crazy, actually I'd be scared.
    It’s not just Team Trump Treason’s behavior or rhetoric but that of white nationalist in that the “manifestos” and online chat room discussions or postings are having their message content broadcast in “legitimate” forums like the WSJ, Washington Times, NYT, Faux News in the form of editorials and commentary or by a talking head. The language is slicker, more “intellectual” but the underlying theme, message or dog whistle is the same.
    Hold it, you had me agreeing with you for a second there until the last part.

    Basically you are saying that anyone that sees something in a way other than yours then it's pretty much nationalist, racist behavior/talk?

    I am stretching what you said immensely but that is what I am gathering from it.

    Lastly you see the opposition having oped pieces in those such publications?

    We can take this privately if you'd like too.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,663
    Kat said:
    And now he's trying the whataboutism gambit. ugh. I can't imagine anyone feeling consolation while he just keeps stirring... I couldn't be more disgusted. Stay safe everyone.
    Halifax is right when he says that certain things have become the norm.  It has become normal for his behavior, that is what he is.  To think he is going to change would be crazy, actually I'd be scared.
    It’s not just Team Trump Treason’s behavior or rhetoric but that of white nationalist in that the “manifestos” and online chat room discussions or postings are having their message content broadcast in “legitimate” forums like the WSJ, Washington Times, NYT, Faux News in the form of editorials and commentary or by a talking head. The language is slicker, more “intellectual” but the underlying theme, message or dog whistle is the same.
    Hold it, you had me agreeing with you for a second there until the last part.

    Basically you are saying that anyone that sees something in a way other than yours then it's pretty much nationalist, racist behavior/talk?

    I am stretching what you said immensely but that is what I am gathering from it.

    Lastly you see the opposition having oped pieces in those such publications?

    We can take this privately if you'd like too.
    Yeah, Get a Room! 
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,148
    is Everyone having a thoroughly enraged day today? Excellent!
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
    Biden is destroying tRump right now....
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,310
    is Everyone having a thoroughly enraged day today? Excellent!
    Not enraged but the families of the victims I’m sure are having a difficult time , Apathy is not something your Baffoon is capable of ! 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,649
    Kat said:
    And now he's trying the whataboutism gambit. ugh. I can't imagine anyone feeling consolation while he just keeps stirring... I couldn't be more disgusted. Stay safe everyone.
    Halifax is right when he says that certain things have become the norm.  It has become normal for his behavior, that is what he is.  To think he is going to change would be crazy, actually I'd be scared.
    It’s not just Team Trump Treason’s behavior or rhetoric but that of white nationalist in that the “manifestos” and online chat room discussions or postings are having their message content broadcast in “legitimate” forums like the WSJ, Washington Times, NYT, Faux News in the form of editorials and commentary or by a talking head. The language is slicker, more “intellectual” but the underlying theme, message or dog whistle is the same.
    Hold it, you had me agreeing with you for a second there until the last part.

    Basically you are saying that anyone that sees something in a way other than yours then it's pretty much nationalist, racist behavior/talk?

    I am stretching what you said immensely but that is what I am gathering from it.

    Lastly you see the opposition having oped pieces in those such publications?

    We can take this privately if you'd like too.
    That’s not what I said at all. Why would I take this privately, I’m not afraid to voice my opinions. Yes, the “opposition” whatever or whoever they are, pen op-Ed’s in the mainstream media.

    Did you miss Tucker Carlson’s diatribe?
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,053
    Kat said:
    And now he's trying the whataboutism gambit. ugh. I can't imagine anyone feeling consolation while he just keeps stirring... I couldn't be more disgusted. Stay safe everyone.
    Halifax is right when he says that certain things have become the norm.  It has become normal for his behavior, that is what he is.  To think he is going to change would be crazy, actually I'd be scared.
    It’s not just Team Trump Treason’s behavior or rhetoric but that of white nationalist in that the “manifestos” and online chat room discussions or postings are having their message content broadcast in “legitimate” forums like the WSJ, Washington Times, NYT, Faux News in the form of editorials and commentary or by a talking head. The language is slicker, more “intellectual” but the underlying theme, message or dog whistle is the same.
    Hold it, you had me agreeing with you for a second there until the last part.

    Basically you are saying that anyone that sees something in a way other than yours then it's pretty much nationalist, racist behavior/talk?

    I am stretching what you said immensely but that is what I am gathering from it.

    Lastly you see the opposition having oped pieces in those such publications?

    We can take this privately if you'd like too.
    That’s not what I said at all. Why would I take this privately, I’m not afraid to voice my opinions. Yes, the “opposition” whatever or whoever they are, pen op-Ed’s in the mainstream media.

    Did you miss Tucker Carlson’s diatribe?
    If it was going to be just a back and forth between us we could have it off here, lord knows you don't have a problem saying anything...

    I haven't seen anything in the above mentioned papers that were flagged as such.  I did read an oped in the Post that called out Rev Al but that newspaper isn't mentioned above.

    I have a few problems w Tucker and I have mentioned on here that I can't stand him.

    1- He is an empty can, rebel rousing, performer and in no way should be considered a journalist.
    2- Yes, I missed it.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    From the WAPO

    "President Trump remained largely out of public view as he visited Dayton, Ohio, the first of his two scheduled stops Wednesday intended to console cities recovering from a pair of mass shootings over the weekend. Aside from brief appearances on the airport tarmac as he arrived and departed, Trump did not speak publicly or allow himself to be photographed. The visit to Dayton, a city of about 140,000 people, was a marked break with tradition, as presidents visiting grieving communities typically offer public condolences and use the opportunity to try to comfort the nation. "

    So bad at his job. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I'm sure he met with the cops though.  What a sorry little man.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,828
    Kat said:
    And now he's trying the whataboutism gambit. ugh. I can't imagine anyone feeling consolation while he just keeps stirring... I couldn't be more disgusted. Stay safe everyone.
    Halifax is right when he says that certain things have become the norm.  It has become normal for his behavior, that is what he is.  To think he is going to change would be crazy, actually I'd be scared.
    It’s not just Team Trump Treason’s behavior or rhetoric but that of white nationalist in that the “manifestos” and online chat room discussions or postings are having their message content broadcast in “legitimate” forums like the WSJ, Washington Times, NYT, Faux News in the form of editorials and commentary or by a talking head. The language is slicker, more “intellectual” but the underlying theme, message or dog whistle is the same.
    Hold it, you had me agreeing with you for a second there until the last part.

    Basically you are saying that anyone that sees something in a way other than yours then it's pretty much nationalist, racist behavior/talk?

    I am stretching what you said immensely but that is what I am gathering from it.

    Lastly you see the opposition having oped pieces in those such publications?

    We can take this privately if you'd like too.
    That’s not what I said at all. Why would I take this privately, I’m not afraid to voice my opinions. Yes, the “opposition” whatever or whoever they are, pen op-Ed’s in the mainstream media.

    Did you miss Tucker Carlson’s diatribe?
    If it was going to be just a back and forth between us we could have it off here, lord knows you don't have a problem saying anything...

    I haven't seen anything in the above mentioned papers that were flagged as such.  I did read an oped in the Post that called out Rev Al but that newspaper isn't mentioned above.

    I have a few problems w Tucker and I have mentioned on here that I can't stand him.

    1- He is an empty can, rebel rousing, performer and in no way should be considered a journalist.
    2- Yes, I missed it.
    Short form version - “no such thing as white nationalism”. 

    I’m paraphrasing, of course, but that’s the gist. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,663
    Kat said:
    And now he's trying the whataboutism gambit. ugh. I can't imagine anyone feeling consolation while he just keeps stirring... I couldn't be more disgusted. Stay safe everyone.
    Halifax is right when he says that certain things have become the norm.  It has become normal for his behavior, that is what he is.  To think he is going to change would be crazy, actually I'd be scared.
    It’s not just Team Trump Treason’s behavior or rhetoric but that of white nationalist in that the “manifestos” and online chat room discussions or postings are having their message content broadcast in “legitimate” forums like the WSJ, Washington Times, NYT, Faux News in the form of editorials and commentary or by a talking head. The language is slicker, more “intellectual” but the underlying theme, message or dog whistle is the same.
    Hold it, you had me agreeing with you for a second there until the last part.

    Basically you are saying that anyone that sees something in a way other than yours then it's pretty much nationalist, racist behavior/talk?

    I am stretching what you said immensely but that is what I am gathering from it.

    Lastly you see the opposition having oped pieces in those such publications?

    We can take this privately if you'd like too.
    That’s not what I said at all. Why would I take this privately, I’m not afraid to voice my opinions. Yes, the “opposition” whatever or whoever they are, pen op-Ed’s in the mainstream media.

    Did you miss Tucker Carlson’s diatribe?
    If it was going to be just a back and forth between us we could have it off here, lord knows you don't have a problem saying anything...

    I haven't seen anything in the above mentioned papers that were flagged as such.  I did read an oped in the Post that called out Rev Al but that newspaper isn't mentioned above.

    I have a few problems w Tucker and I have mentioned on here that I can't stand him.

    1- He is an empty can, rebel rousing, performer and in no way should be considered a journalist.
    2- Yes, I missed it.
    Short form version - “no such thing as white nationalism”. 

    I’m paraphrasing, of course, but that’s the gist. 
    "It's a hoax".  
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,053
    edited August 2019
    ikiT said:
    From the WAPO

    "President Trump remained largely out of public view as he visited Dayton, Ohio, the first of his two scheduled stops Wednesday intended to console cities recovering from a pair of mass shootings over the weekend. Aside from brief appearances on the airport tarmac as he arrived and departed, Trump did not speak publicly or allow himself to be photographed. The visit to Dayton, a city of about 140,000 people, was a marked break with tradition, as presidents visiting grieving communities typically offer public condolences and use the opportunity to try to comfort the nation. "

    So bad at his job. 
    No, he did what he should have done, said nothing.

    For once I actually think he did the right thing.  It wasn't about him...

    Edit:

    I needed to add more to this.

    He usually makes it all about himself and even though he tries to make it about the issue it never works out that way.  He finally does something that doesn't seem like a photo op or soap box speech for once. 
    Post edited by tempo_n_groove on
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,310
    ikiT said:
    From the WAPO

    "President Trump remained largely out of public view as he visited Dayton, Ohio, the first of his two scheduled stops Wednesday intended to console cities recovering from a pair of mass shootings over the weekend. Aside from brief appearances on the airport tarmac as he arrived and departed, Trump did not speak publicly or allow himself to be photographed. The visit to Dayton, a city of about 140,000 people, was a marked break with tradition, as presidents visiting grieving communities typically offer public condolences and use the opportunity to try to comfort the nation. "

    So bad at his job. 
    No, he did what he should have done, said nothing.

    For once I actually think he did the right thing.  It wasn't about him...

    Edit:

    I needed to add more to this.

    He usually makes it all about himself and even though he tries to make it about the issue it never works out that way.  He finally does something that doesn't seem like a photo op or soap box speech for once. 
    Wrong , so why go there then to do what ? 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    he coulda done that from DC. 
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