rounding up the mentally ill...what could go wrong?
Did he really say he wants to gather up the mentally ill?
Googling now!
I'm guessing you didn't find anything.
Yes I did. It wasn't what I was envisioning. I thought he was going to undo what Reagan had done but instead he blamed Mental Illness on a shooting.
This might kickstart a law about mental stability and owning a firearm?
I saw that he was blaming mental illness (and moronically, video games). I was wondering if you found anything about him "rounding up" the mentally ill. Because I couldn't find anything like that.
This week, prosecutors, law enforcement officers, homeland security officials, and lawmakers joined me at the White House to address a very vicious threat to our communities—the savage gang, MS-13.
Glaring loopholes in our laws have allowed criminals and gang members to break into our country. For example, under current law, unaccompanied alien minors at the border are released into American communities no matter where, no matter how, it is so easy for them because the laws are bad and they have to be changed. This loophole is easily exploited by MS-13, which now operates in at least 40 states.
In addition to MS-13, many other gangs are breaking into our country routinely because our laws are so weak, so sad, so pathetic.
At this week’s roundtable, we learned the story of one family right here in Washington, D.C. that hosted a person in their home, who then began to recruit their young son to MS-13. When the boy’s mother tried to stop it, the gang member shot her in the head, blinding her for life. She’s lucky she lived, but she’s paying a very big price.
During my State of the Union, I called on Congress to immediately close dangerous loopholes in federal law that have endangered our communities and imposed enormous burdens on U.S. taxpayers.
My Administration has identified three major priorities for creating a safe, modern and lawful immigration system: fully securing the border, ending chain migration, and canceling the visa lottery. Chain migration is a disaster and very unfair to our country. The visa lottery is something that should have never been allowed in the first place. People enter a lottery to come into our country. What kind of a system is that? It is time for Congress to act and to protect Americans. Every member of Congress should choose the side of law enforcement, and the side of the American People. That’s the way it has to be.
I’m here following through on what I pledged to do. That’s all I’m doing. I put it out before the American people. Got 306 Electoral College votes. I wasn’t supposed to get 222. They said there’s no way to get 222; 230 is impossible. Two hundred and seventy, which you need, that was laughable. We got 306 because people came out and voted like they’ve never seen before. So that’s the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that. Just sayin'.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
And imagine the infrastructure that would need to be in place to identify potential shooters. We would all need mental evaluations monthly.
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WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
And imagine the infrastructure that would need to be in place to identify potential shooters. We would all need mental evaluations monthly.
Connecticut has something like that on their law books. If someone seems unstable, you call the cops and they take your firearms away until you get evaluated.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
And imagine the infrastructure that would need to be in place to identify potential shooters. We would all need mental evaluations monthly.
I still think the best way to identify potential shooters is by taking seriously any "red flags" you may come across. Like I was saying earlier, the one shooter that had a "kill list" needed to be taken seriously (not just suspended from school) and a mental health evaluation should be mandatory for someone like that.
And frankly, evaluation or not, having a "kill list" should one way or another end up on someone's background check. Not for the whole world to see. But for gun retailers need to be informed of that shit.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that. Just sayin'.
Not sure what you just sayin' here. If my city was inundated with what? Mentally ill individuals? If so, when I say "harmless mentally ill folks," I'm talking specially about people that have mental health disorders (autism, etc) but aren't threats to ever shoot a gun. Not the ones that are so dangerous that an involuntary commitment is needed for.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that. Just sayin'.
Not sure what you just sayin' here. If my city was inundated with what? Mentally ill individuals? If so, when I say "harmless mentally ill folks," I'm talking specially about people that have mental health disorders (autism, etc) but aren't threats to ever shoot a gun. Not the ones that are so dangerous that an involuntary commitment is needed for.
Got it. When I think of mentally ill I don't think of autistic people but people with serious mental conditions, schizophrenia, bipolar. The ones I see roaming the streets and yelling at the passing cars.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that. Just sayin'.
Not sure what you just sayin' here. If my city was inundated with what? Mentally ill individuals? If so, when I say "harmless mentally ill folks," I'm talking specially about people that have mental health disorders (autism, etc) but aren't threats to ever shoot a gun. Not the ones that are so dangerous that an involuntary commitment is needed for.
Got it. When I think of mentally ill I don't think of autistic people but people with serious mental conditions, schizophrenia, bipolar. The ones I see roaming the streets and yelling at the passing cars.
I hear ya, and I think those are the type of people that Trump is talking about. But when the other poster spoke of "rounding up" people, it harkened back (for me anyway) to the Nazis who rounded up mentally and physically disabled people with no reason for it other than they were on Hitler's list of imperfect people.
Now I wouldn't be in favor of just imprisoning every goof you see in the streets yelling at the clouds. But sometimes involuntary commitments are necessary. More often than not, they're done as way to curtail self-harm. And I think (or at least hope), this is what Trump is trying to say. That if someone makes a threat of suicide, and they could be involuntary committed for their own safety, then if someone makes a serious threat to others (like the "kill list" that the Ohio shooter), maybe they should be committed for the safety of others.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that. Just sayin'.
Not sure what you just sayin' here. If my city was inundated with what? Mentally ill individuals? If so, when I say "harmless mentally ill folks," I'm talking specially about people that have mental health disorders (autism, etc) but aren't threats to ever shoot a gun. Not the ones that are so dangerous that an involuntary commitment is needed for.
Got it. When I think of mentally ill I don't think of autistic people but people with serious mental conditions, schizophrenia, bipolar. The ones I see roaming the streets and yelling at the passing cars.
I hear ya, and I think those are the type of people that Trump is talking about. But when the other poster spoke of "rounding up" people, it harkened back (for me anyway) to the Nazis who rounded up mentally and physically disabled people with no reason for it other than they were on Hitler's list of imperfect people.
Now I wouldn't be in favor of just imprisoning every goof you see in the streets yelling at the clouds. But sometimes involuntary commitments are necessary. More often than not, they're done as way to curtail self-harm. And I think (or at least hope), this is what Trump is trying to say. That if someone makes a threat of suicide, and they could be involuntary committed for their own safety, then if someone makes a serious threat to others (like the "kill list" that the Ohio shooter), maybe they should be committed for the safety of others.
I'm pretty sure China still rounds these people up too.
I can't imagine living in a world where someone could pick up the phone and say that I am mentally unstable and then I get a knock on the door and take me away.
To me THAT is Nazis Germany type shit. 1984 type shit.
Not for me please. The government will mess that good intention up really good.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that. Just sayin'.
Not sure what you just sayin' here. If my city was inundated with what? Mentally ill individuals? If so, when I say "harmless mentally ill folks," I'm talking specially about people that have mental health disorders (autism, etc) but aren't threats to ever shoot a gun. Not the ones that are so dangerous that an involuntary commitment is needed for.
Got it. When I think of mentally ill I don't think of autistic people but people with serious mental conditions, schizophrenia, bipolar. The ones I see roaming the streets and yelling at the passing cars.
I hear ya, and I think those are the type of people that Trump is talking about. But when the other poster spoke of "rounding up" people, it harkened back (for me anyway) to the Nazis who rounded up mentally and physically disabled people with no reason for it other than they were on Hitler's list of imperfect people.
Now I wouldn't be in favor of just imprisoning every goof you see in the streets yelling at the clouds. But sometimes involuntary commitments are necessary. More often than not, they're done as way to curtail self-harm. And I think (or at least hope), this is what Trump is trying to say. That if someone makes a threat of suicide, and they could be involuntary committed for their own safety, then if someone makes a serious threat to others (like the "kill list" that the Ohio shooter), maybe they should be committed for the safety of others.
I'm pretty sure China still rounds these people up too.
I can't imagine living in a world where someone could pick up the phone and say that I am mentally unstable and then I get a knock on the door and take me away.
To me THAT is Nazis Germany type shit. 1984 type shit.
Not for me please. The government will mess that good intention up really good.
Agree here. How many exes will be calling in their spouses? That's already a problem today.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that. Just sayin'.
Not sure what you just sayin' here. If my city was inundated with what? Mentally ill individuals? If so, when I say "harmless mentally ill folks," I'm talking specially about people that have mental health disorders (autism, etc) but aren't threats to ever shoot a gun. Not the ones that are so dangerous that an involuntary commitment is needed for.
Got it. When I think of mentally ill I don't think of autistic people but people with serious mental conditions, schizophrenia, bipolar. The ones I see roaming the streets and yelling at the passing cars.
I hear ya, and I think those are the type of people that Trump is talking about. But when the other poster spoke of "rounding up" people, it harkened back (for me anyway) to the Nazis who rounded up mentally and physically disabled people with no reason for it other than they were on Hitler's list of imperfect people.
Now I wouldn't be in favor of just imprisoning every goof you see in the streets yelling at the clouds. But sometimes involuntary commitments are necessary. More often than not, they're done as way to curtail self-harm. And I think (or at least hope), this is what Trump is trying to say. That if someone makes a threat of suicide, and they could be involuntary committed for their own safety, then if someone makes a serious threat to others (like the "kill list" that the Ohio shooter), maybe they should be committed for the safety of others.
I'm pretty sure China still rounds these people up too.
I can't imagine living in a world where someone could pick up the phone and say that I am mentally unstable and then I get a knock on the door and take me away.
To me THAT is Nazis Germany type shit. 1984 type shit.
Not for me please. The government will mess that good intention up really good.
Agreed. The best course of action is to take REAL action when there are warning signs. I keep bringing it up like a broken record, but for a high schooler to have a kill list and a rape list, that school officials knew about (and suspended him)….I just don't know how the hell that person can be able to legally buy a gun. There has to be a way for that sort of information to find it's way onto that kid's background check. This is what Trump should be pushing rather than unrealistic rhetoric about confining mentally ill people. Not everyone with a mental health disorder is a threat, and many people that have never been diagnosed are.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that. Just sayin'.
Not sure what you just sayin' here. If my city was inundated with what? Mentally ill individuals? If so, when I say "harmless mentally ill folks," I'm talking specially about people that have mental health disorders (autism, etc) but aren't threats to ever shoot a gun. Not the ones that are so dangerous that an involuntary commitment is needed for.
Got it. When I think of mentally ill I don't think of autistic people but people with serious mental conditions, schizophrenia, bipolar. The ones I see roaming the streets and yelling at the passing cars.
I hear ya, and I think those are the type of people that Trump is talking about. But when the other poster spoke of "rounding up" people, it harkened back (for me anyway) to the Nazis who rounded up mentally and physically disabled people with no reason for it other than they were on Hitler's list of imperfect people.
Now I wouldn't be in favor of just imprisoning every goof you see in the streets yelling at the clouds. But sometimes involuntary commitments are necessary. More often than not, they're done as way to curtail self-harm. And I think (or at least hope), this is what Trump is trying to say. That if someone makes a threat of suicide, and they could be involuntary committed for their own safety, then if someone makes a serious threat to others (like the "kill list" that the Ohio shooter), maybe they should be committed for the safety of others.
I'm pretty sure China still rounds these people up too.
I can't imagine living in a world where someone could pick up the phone and say that I am mentally unstable and then I get a knock on the door and take me away.
To me THAT is Nazis Germany type shit. 1984 type shit.
Not for me please. The government will mess that good intention up really good.
Agreed. The best course of action is to take REAL action when there are warning signs. I keep bringing it up like a broken record, but for a high schooler to have a kill list and a rape list, that school officials knew about (and suspended him)….I just don't know how the hell that person can be able to legally buy a gun. There has to be a way for that sort of information to find it's way onto that kid's background check. This is what Trump should be pushing rather than unrealistic rhetoric about confining mentally ill people. Not everyone with a mental health disorder is a threat, and many people that have never been diagnosed are.
We have talked about the mental aspect and gun ownership too. A bunch of us thought it was a slippery slope to go down.
Research what Connecticut is doing and if u like that maybe it could be national?
Some of the things we did in school would have gotten myself and all my friends expelled if we were to do them today. It wasn't THAT long ago either. I'm sure some of the older guys have stories they could tell too. School today is much much different than what I went to.
We have talked about the mental aspect and gun ownership too. A bunch of us thought it was a slippery slope to go down.
Research what Connecticut is doing and if u like that maybe it could be national?
Some of the things we did in school would have gotten myself and all my friends expelled if we were to do them today. It wasn't THAT long ago either. I'm sure some of the older guys have stories they could tell too. School today is much much different than what I went to.
You got that right. I'm a Juvenile Probation Officer and you'd be shocked with some of the stuff that kids get charged with, adjudicated on, and placed on probation for. Getting into a school yard fight? Charged with simple assault. Someone shows you a picture of their 16-year-old girlfriend's boobs that she sent him? Charged with possession of child pornography. And so on and so forth.
We had a kid threaten to shoot up the school in a group chat. When I read it, I suspected that it wasn't a serious threat, but that doesn't matter. Kid was charged with terroristic threats. That's why I keep coming back to the Ohio shooter's "kill list." I feel having a kill list would be tantamount to (or at least in the realm of) terroristic threats, and if placed on probation, someone in my position could force the kid into mental health treatment by way of recommending it to the court.
A few of the individuals who have committed these mass shootings would be considered mentally ill, but most are not. Most violence, including serious mass violence, is due more to uncontrolled anger and rage, often fuelled by alcohol and drugs.
I have no problem with talking about ways to limit gun ownership and attempts to identify who poses the highest risk, but we have to remember that most of the time that isn’t someone who is mentally ill. Let’s not try to foist the responsibility for this issue onto the mentally ill; they have difficult enough burdens to carry.
Inevitably someone is going to say to this “you have to be mentally ill to kill people”. No, you don’t.
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WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that. Just sayin'.
Not sure what you just sayin' here. If my city was inundated with what? Mentally ill individuals? If so, when I say "harmless mentally ill folks," I'm talking specially about people that have mental health disorders (autism, etc) but aren't threats to ever shoot a gun. Not the ones that are so dangerous that an involuntary commitment is needed for.
Got it. When I think of mentally ill I don't think of autistic people but people with serious mental conditions, schizophrenia, bipolar. The ones I see roaming the streets and yelling at the passing cars.
I hear ya, and I think those are the type of people that Trump is talking about. But when the other poster spoke of "rounding up" people, it harkened back (for me anyway) to the Nazis who rounded up mentally and physically disabled people with no reason for it other than they were on Hitler's list of imperfect people.
Now I wouldn't be in favor of just imprisoning every goof you see in the streets yelling at the clouds. But sometimes involuntary commitments are necessary. More often than not, they're done as way to curtail self-harm. And I think (or at least hope), this is what Trump is trying to say. That if someone makes a threat of suicide, and they could be involuntary committed for their own safety, then if someone makes a serious threat to others (like the "kill list" that the Ohio shooter), maybe they should be committed for the safety of others.
I'm pretty sure China still rounds these people up too.
I can't imagine living in a world where someone could pick up the phone and say that I am mentally unstable and then I get a knock on the door and take me away.
To me THAT is Nazis Germany type shit. 1984 type shit.
Not for me please. The government will mess that good intention up really good.
Especially this gov't led by this demagogue ...yo he isn't qualified to make a Dunkin run.
WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
So he does want to round them up.
TY.
Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy.
If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that. Just sayin'.
Not sure what you just sayin' here. If my city was inundated with what? Mentally ill individuals? If so, when I say "harmless mentally ill folks," I'm talking specially about people that have mental health disorders (autism, etc) but aren't threats to ever shoot a gun. Not the ones that are so dangerous that an involuntary commitment is needed for.
Got it. When I think of mentally ill I don't think of autistic people but people with serious mental conditions, schizophrenia, bipolar. The ones I see roaming the streets and yelling at the passing cars.
I hear ya, and I think those are the type of people that Trump is talking about. But when the other poster spoke of "rounding up" people, it harkened back (for me anyway) to the Nazis who rounded up mentally and physically disabled people with no reason for it other than they were on Hitler's list of imperfect people.
Now I wouldn't be in favor of just imprisoning every goof you see in the streets yelling at the clouds. But sometimes involuntary commitments are necessary. More often than not, they're done as way to curtail self-harm. And I think (or at least hope), this is what Trump is trying to say. That if someone makes a threat of suicide, and they could be involuntary committed for their own safety, then if someone makes a serious threat to others (like the "kill list" that the Ohio shooter), maybe they should be committed for the safety of others.
I'm pretty sure China still rounds these people up too.
I can't imagine living in a world where someone could pick up the phone and say that I am mentally unstable and then I get a knock on the door and take me away.
To me THAT is Nazis Germany type shit. 1984 type shit.
Not for me please. The government will mess that good intention up really good.
Especially this gov't led by this demagogue ...yo he isn't qualified to make a Dunkin run.
He’d come back with Chik-A-Fila because of their anti-gay stance, yo.
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This might kickstart a law about mental stability and owning a firearm?
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WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE...
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In a civil society you can't walk around threatening people, something shit for brains does DAILY.
He incites people to violence, illegal in all 50 states.
Fun fact....he's crashing the stock market today in case you haven't noticed.
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And frankly, evaluation or not, having a "kill list" should one way or another end up on someone's background check. Not for the whole world to see. But for gun retailers need to be informed of that shit.
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Now I wouldn't be in favor of just imprisoning every goof you see in the streets yelling at the clouds. But sometimes involuntary commitments are necessary. More often than not, they're done as way to curtail self-harm. And I think (or at least hope), this is what Trump is trying to say. That if someone makes a threat of suicide, and they could be involuntary committed for their own safety, then if someone makes a serious threat to others (like the "kill list" that the Ohio shooter), maybe they should be committed for the safety of others.
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I can't imagine living in a world where someone could pick up the phone and say that I am mentally unstable and then I get a knock on the door and take me away.
To me THAT is Nazis Germany type shit. 1984 type shit.
Not for me please. The government will mess that good intention up really good.
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Research what Connecticut is doing and if u like that maybe it could be national?
Some of the things we did in school would have gotten myself and all my friends expelled if we were to do them today. It wasn't THAT long ago either. I'm sure some of the older guys have stories they could tell too. School today is much much different than what I went to.
We had a kid threaten to shoot up the school in a group chat. When I read it, I suspected that it wasn't a serious threat, but that doesn't matter. Kid was charged with terroristic threats. That's why I keep coming back to the Ohio shooter's "kill list." I feel having a kill list would be tantamount to (or at least in the realm of) terroristic threats, and if placed on probation, someone in my position could force the kid into mental health treatment by way of recommending it to the court.
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I have no problem with talking about ways to limit gun ownership and attempts to identify who poses the highest risk, but we have to remember that most of the time that isn’t someone who is mentally ill. Let’s not try to foist the responsibility for this issue onto the mentally ill; they have difficult enough burdens to carry.
Inevitably someone is going to say to this “you have to be mentally ill to kill people”. No, you don’t.
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