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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    This sums up Trump supporters quite nicely. Regarding Space Force: “It doesn’t make a lot of sense and would be wasting a lot of dollars,” he said. “But at the same time, it’s going to be cool.”

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-show-exposes-how-trump-fans-have-no-idea-what-space-force-is?via=FB_Page&source=TDB
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    This sums up Trump supporters quite nicely. Regarding Space Force: “It doesn’t make a lot of sense and would be wasting a lot of dollars,” he said. “But at the same time, it’s going to be cool.”

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-show-exposes-how-trump-fans-have-no-idea-what-space-force-is?via=FB_Page&source=TDB
    Trumpism is a sad embrace of ignorance.  
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    vaggar99 said:
    This sums up Trump supporters quite nicely. Regarding Space Force: “It doesn’t make a lot of sense and would be wasting a lot of dollars,” he said. “But at the same time, it’s going to be cool.”

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-show-exposes-how-trump-fans-have-no-idea-what-space-force-is?via=FB_Page&source=TDB
    Trumpism is a sad embrace of ignorance.  

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    This sums up Trump supporters quite nicely. Regarding Space Force: “It doesn’t make a lot of sense and would be wasting a lot of dollars,” he said. “But at the same time, it’s going to be cool.”

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-show-exposes-how-trump-fans-have-no-idea-what-space-force-is?via=FB_Page&source=TDB
    Why, oh why couldn't they embrace "space exploration" rather than a damn "Space Force"?!?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    my2hands said:
    I love watching Rome burn....

    Pass some marshmallows 
    Do you need a fiddle, Nero?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    PJ_Soul said:
    Can our resident Trump interpreters (the ones who get all his 'jokes') explain what The Aura is?
    He mentioned it in his attack on Harley Davidson, who are struggling with his inept economics policies, and the capitalisation confuses me.
    Is it like 'The Secret'?
    Yea, wrap your mind around that one. Team Trump Treason Willy billy imposed tariffs and the EU replies in kind. Harley Davidson reacts by moving some operations oversees to remain competitive. Team Trump Treason threatens them with the biggest taxes they’ve ever seen and belittles them for being weak. It’s like Donny Jr. ate more than half of Eric’s ice cream because Team Trump Treason made them split a scoop when he’s got 60 gallons in the freezer and when Eric complained, Team Trump Treason whooped his ass for defying his logic. What a fucking nightmare. Harley riders should parade to DC and surround the White House and rev their engines 24/7 for a few weeks. Do the same at Team Trump Treasons hotels. This guy really needs a smack in the mouth. Hello, Pompeo? Not that I advocate that but I think it may very well be the only thing that will register with him and get his attention.
    Please stop saying "Team Trump Treason." You sound like Trump himself when refers to Hillary as "Crooked Hillary" or Cruz as "Lyin' Ted."
    No, no I won’t. Not until Team Trump Treason is impeached, voted out of office or resigns. He’s not fit to serve in the office of the presidency. In fact, he’s not fit to serve anyone at a Taco Bell. Buh, buh, buh Hillary!
    I'm beginning to believe he will never be impeached (and he will never resign). the democrats have proven themselves to be spineless pussies for the last few years. 
    I'm not sure what the Dems have to do with it. The other Republicans are the ones who have proven themselves spineless pussies.
    I've been reading quite a lot of articles and opinion pieces lately that are saying the dems need to grow some balls and start standing up for what's right, instead of the "let's be civil" stuff. I agree with "let's be civil", I think even yesterday I said something similar on here, but it's clearly not working. The low road is the one that keeps winning. 

    how do you combat that without fighting the same way? it failed in 2016, and it continues to fail in 2018. 

    Everything they've done has been reactionary. and when all you do is react,  your opponent remains ahead. 

    do I agree with Maxine waters? No. even though she has now said she was not encouraging violence, the message remains. You put something like that out there, and people will respond in ways you didn't anticipate. 

    But maybe she's onto something. 
    Civil?  Read a few of the comments on here and it's not very civil...

    Anitfa, heard of them?

    You did mention Mrs Waters and I'm sure there is more to follow.

    This calling every republican a racist thing will only make this country uglier.  It's sad and people will defend in doing so.

    I know you didn't call them racists Hugh so don't focus on that.


    Who called all republicans racist? More often I see the comment that they are okay with supporting trump, who is racist. 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited June 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    Can our resident Trump interpreters (the ones who get all his 'jokes') explain what The Aura is?
    He mentioned it in his attack on Harley Davidson, who are struggling with his inept economics policies, and the capitalisation confuses me.
    Is it like 'The Secret'?
    Yea, wrap your mind around that one. Team Trump Treason Willy billy imposed tariffs and the EU replies in kind. Harley Davidson reacts by moving some operations oversees to remain competitive. Team Trump Treason threatens them with the biggest taxes they’ve ever seen and belittles them for being weak. It’s like Donny Jr. ate more than half of Eric’s ice cream because Team Trump Treason made them split a scoop when he’s got 60 gallons in the freezer and when Eric complained, Team Trump Treason whooped his ass for defying his logic. What a fucking nightmare. Harley riders should parade to DC and surround the White House and rev their engines 24/7 for a few weeks. Do the same at Team Trump Treasons hotels. This guy really needs a smack in the mouth. Hello, Pompeo? Not that I advocate that but I think it may very well be the only thing that will register with him and get his attention.
    Please stop saying "Team Trump Treason." You sound like Trump himself when refers to Hillary as "Crooked Hillary" or Cruz as "Lyin' Ted."
    No, no I won’t. Not until Team Trump Treason is impeached, voted out of office or resigns. He’s not fit to serve in the office of the presidency. In fact, he’s not fit to serve anyone at a Taco Bell. Buh, buh, buh Hillary!
    I'm beginning to believe he will never be impeached (and he will never resign). the democrats have proven themselves to be spineless pussies for the last few years. 
    I'm not sure what the Dems have to do with it. The other Republicans are the ones who have proven themselves spineless pussies.
    I've been reading quite a lot of articles and opinion pieces lately that are saying the dems need to grow some balls and start standing up for what's right, instead of the "let's be civil" stuff. I agree with "let's be civil", I think even yesterday I said something similar on here, but it's clearly not working. The low road is the one that keeps winning. 

    how do you combat that without fighting the same way? it failed in 2016, and it continues to fail in 2018. 

    Everything they've done has been reactionary. and when all you do is react,  your opponent remains ahead. 

    do I agree with Maxine waters? No. even though she has now said she was not encouraging violence, the message remains. You put something like that out there, and people will respond in ways you didn't anticipate. 

    But maybe she's onto something. 
    Civil?  Read a few of the comments on here and it's not very civil...

    Anitfa, heard of them?

    You did mention Mrs Waters and I'm sure there is more to follow.

    This calling every republican a racist thing will only make this country uglier.  It's sad and people will defend in doing so.

    I know you didn't call them racists Hugh so don't focus on that.


    Who called all republicans racist? More often I see the comment that they are okay with supporting trump, who is racist. 
    There was a good article in the NYT, I think, pointing out that “conservative” and “republican” are no longer equivalent. I would say that someone who still supports the current Republican Party and its policies is at the least comfortable supporting a racist agenda. 
     
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:
    Can our resident Trump interpreters (the ones who get all his 'jokes') explain what The Aura is?
    He mentioned it in his attack on Harley Davidson, who are struggling with his inept economics policies, and the capitalisation confuses me.
    Is it like 'The Secret'?
    Yea, wrap your mind around that one. Team Trump Treason Willy billy imposed tariffs and the EU replies in kind. Harley Davidson reacts by moving some operations oversees to remain competitive. Team Trump Treason threatens them with the biggest taxes they’ve ever seen and belittles them for being weak. It’s like Donny Jr. ate more than half of Eric’s ice cream because Team Trump Treason made them split a scoop when he’s got 60 gallons in the freezer and when Eric complained, Team Trump Treason whooped his ass for defying his logic. What a fucking nightmare. Harley riders should parade to DC and surround the White House and rev their engines 24/7 for a few weeks. Do the same at Team Trump Treasons hotels. This guy really needs a smack in the mouth. Hello, Pompeo? Not that I advocate that but I think it may very well be the only thing that will register with him and get his attention.
    Please stop saying "Team Trump Treason." You sound like Trump himself when refers to Hillary as "Crooked Hillary" or Cruz as "Lyin' Ted."
    No, no I won’t. Not until Team Trump Treason is impeached, voted out of office or resigns. He’s not fit to serve in the office of the presidency. In fact, he’s not fit to serve anyone at a Taco Bell. Buh, buh, buh Hillary!
    I'm beginning to believe he will never be impeached (and he will never resign). the democrats have proven themselves to be spineless pussies for the last few years. 
    I'm not sure what the Dems have to do with it. The other Republicans are the ones who have proven themselves spineless pussies.
    I've been reading quite a lot of articles and opinion pieces lately that are saying the dems need to grow some balls and start standing up for what's right, instead of the "let's be civil" stuff. I agree with "let's be civil", I think even yesterday I said something similar on here, but it's clearly not working. The low road is the one that keeps winning. 

    how do you combat that without fighting the same way? it failed in 2016, and it continues to fail in 2018. 

    Everything they've done has been reactionary. and when all you do is react,  your opponent remains ahead. 

    do I agree with Maxine waters? No. even though she has now said she was not encouraging violence, the message remains. You put something like that out there, and people will respond in ways you didn't anticipate. 

    But maybe she's onto something. 
    Civil?  Read a few of the comments on here and it's not very civil...

    Anitfa, heard of them?

    You did mention Mrs Waters and I'm sure there is more to follow.

    This calling every republican a racist thing will only make this country uglier.  It's sad and people will defend in doing so.

    I know you didn't call them racists Hugh so don't focus on that.


    Who called all republicans racist? More often I see the comment that they are okay with supporting trump, who is racist. 
    There was a good article in the NYT, I think, pointing out that “conservative” and “republican” are no longer equivalent. I would say that someone who still supports the current Republican Party and its policies is at the least comfortable supporting a racist agenda. 
     
    Silly
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Remember when "But Gorsuch..." was funny?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    PJ_Soul said:
    Can our resident Trump interpreters (the ones who get all his 'jokes') explain what The Aura is?
    He mentioned it in his attack on Harley Davidson, who are struggling with his inept economics policies, and the capitalisation confuses me.
    Is it like 'The Secret'?
    Yea, wrap your mind around that one. Team Trump Treason Willy billy imposed tariffs and the EU replies in kind. Harley Davidson reacts by moving some operations oversees to remain competitive. Team Trump Treason threatens them with the biggest taxes they’ve ever seen and belittles them for being weak. It’s like Donny Jr. ate more than half of Eric’s ice cream because Team Trump Treason made them split a scoop when he’s got 60 gallons in the freezer and when Eric complained, Team Trump Treason whooped his ass for defying his logic. What a fucking nightmare. Harley riders should parade to DC and surround the White House and rev their engines 24/7 for a few weeks. Do the same at Team Trump Treasons hotels. This guy really needs a smack in the mouth. Hello, Pompeo? Not that I advocate that but I think it may very well be the only thing that will register with him and get his attention.
    Please stop saying "Team Trump Treason." You sound like Trump himself when refers to Hillary as "Crooked Hillary" or Cruz as "Lyin' Ted."
    No, no I won’t. Not until Team Trump Treason is impeached, voted out of office or resigns. He’s not fit to serve in the office of the presidency. In fact, he’s not fit to serve anyone at a Taco Bell. Buh, buh, buh Hillary!
    I'm beginning to believe he will never be impeached (and he will never resign). the democrats have proven themselves to be spineless pussies for the last few years. 
    I'm not sure what the Dems have to do with it. The other Republicans are the ones who have proven themselves spineless pussies.
    I've been reading quite a lot of articles and opinion pieces lately that are saying the dems need to grow some balls and start standing up for what's right, instead of the "let's be civil" stuff. I agree with "let's be civil", I think even yesterday I said something similar on here, but it's clearly not working. The low road is the one that keeps winning. 

    how do you combat that without fighting the same way? it failed in 2016, and it continues to fail in 2018. 

    Everything they've done has been reactionary. and when all you do is react,  your opponent remains ahead. 

    do I agree with Maxine waters? No. even though she has now said she was not encouraging violence, the message remains. You put something like that out there, and people will respond in ways you didn't anticipate. 

    But maybe she's onto something. 
    Civil?  Read a few of the comments on here and it's not very civil...

    Anitfa, heard of them?

    You did mention Mrs Waters and I'm sure there is more to follow.

    This calling every republican a racist thing will only make this country uglier.  It's sad and people will defend in doing so.

    I know you didn't call them racists Hugh so don't focus on that.


    Who called all republicans racist? More often I see the comment that they are okay with supporting trump, who is racist. 
    There was a good article in the NYT, I think, pointing out that “conservative” and “republican” are no longer equivalent. I would say that someone who still supports the current Republican Party and its policies is at the least comfortable supporting a racist agenda. 
     

    Spot on
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited June 2018
    BS44325 said:
    Remember when "But Gorsuch..." was funny?

    Ugh. Really? I hate when people post nonsense like this.


    Mitch McConnell and his hijacking of the supreme court for 11 months is responsible for Gorsuch, not the president. Any republican would've nominated someone with his credentials. So, congrats to Trump for doing something literally any other republican would have done? Yay!

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    Remember when "But Gorsuch..." was funny?

    Ugh. Really?


    Mitch McConnell and his hijacking of the supreme court for 11 months is responsible for Gorsuch, not the president. Any republican would've nominated someone with his credentials.

    No kidding.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Remember when "But Gorsuch..." was funny?

    Ugh. Really?


    Mitch McConnell and his hijacking of the supreme court for 11 months is responsible for Gorsuch, not the president. Any republican would've nominated someone with his credentials.

    No kidding.

    So what's the point of your post?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Can our resident Trump interpreters (the ones who get all his 'jokes') explain what The Aura is?
    He mentioned it in his attack on Harley Davidson, who are struggling with his inept economics policies, and the capitalisation confuses me.
    Is it like 'The Secret'?
    Yea, wrap your mind around that one. Team Trump Treason Willy billy imposed tariffs and the EU replies in kind. Harley Davidson reacts by moving some operations oversees to remain competitive. Team Trump Treason threatens them with the biggest taxes they’ve ever seen and belittles them for being weak. It’s like Donny Jr. ate more than half of Eric’s ice cream because Team Trump Treason made them split a scoop when he’s got 60 gallons in the freezer and when Eric complained, Team Trump Treason whooped his ass for defying his logic. What a fucking nightmare. Harley riders should parade to DC and surround the White House and rev their engines 24/7 for a few weeks. Do the same at Team Trump Treasons hotels. This guy really needs a smack in the mouth. Hello, Pompeo? Not that I advocate that but I think it may very well be the only thing that will register with him and get his attention.
    Please stop saying "Team Trump Treason." You sound like Trump himself when refers to Hillary as "Crooked Hillary" or Cruz as "Lyin' Ted."
    No, no I won’t. Not until Team Trump Treason is impeached, voted out of office or resigns. He’s not fit to serve in the office of the presidency. In fact, he’s not fit to serve anyone at a Taco Bell. Buh, buh, buh Hillary!
    I'm beginning to believe he will never be impeached (and he will never resign). the democrats have proven themselves to be spineless pussies for the last few years. 
    I'm not sure what the Dems have to do with it. The other Republicans are the ones who have proven themselves spineless pussies.
    I've been reading quite a lot of articles and opinion pieces lately that are saying the dems need to grow some balls and start standing up for what's right, instead of the "let's be civil" stuff. I agree with "let's be civil", I think even yesterday I said something similar on here, but it's clearly not working. The low road is the one that keeps winning. 

    how do you combat that without fighting the same way? it failed in 2016, and it continues to fail in 2018. 

    Everything they've done has been reactionary. and when all you do is react,  your opponent remains ahead. 

    do I agree with Maxine waters? No. even though she has now said she was not encouraging violence, the message remains. You put something like that out there, and people will respond in ways you didn't anticipate. 

    But maybe she's onto something. 
    Civil?  Read a few of the comments on here and it's not very civil...

    Anitfa, heard of them?

    You did mention Mrs Waters and I'm sure there is more to follow.

    This calling every republican a racist thing will only make this country uglier.  It's sad and people will defend in doing so.

    I know you didn't call them racists Hugh so don't focus on that.


    Who called all republicans racist? More often I see the comment that they are okay with supporting trump, who is racist. 
    There was a good article in the NYT, I think, pointing out that “conservative” and “republican” are no longer equivalent. I would say that someone who still supports the current Republican Party and its policies is at the least comfortable supporting a racist agenda. 
     
    Silly
    I didn't read the article, but it seems obvious that Trump's politics are not conservative.  Do you really not see the litany of non-conservative policies he is trying here (blown budget, trade wars, tariffs, picking winners and losers in the market place (see Amazon), etc.).  
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Remember when "But Gorsuch..." was funny?

    Ugh. Really?


    Mitch McConnell and his hijacking of the supreme court for 11 months is responsible for Gorsuch, not the president. Any republican would've nominated someone with his credentials.

    No kidding.

    So what's the point of your post?
    If you're a conservative, which I am, and believe in conservative principles, which I do, then these decisions that have rolled out over the last few days are meaningful to you. They are far more important and long lasting then anything Trump himself can actually do. It explains why a conservative can support Trump even if he can be a jackass as "jackassery" in time will evaporate while these decisions will probably last a lifetime. The dwindling number of #NeverTrump conservatives would have preferred the average GOP voter to throw away their vote against their long term interests. But more to the point... I happen to think Trump is accomplishing a lot but there was a time only a few short months ago where many were saying "But Gorsuch..." as a punch line. What I am saying is that even if it was the only thing Trump accomplished just by the fact that he was elected (and there is no guarantee another republican candidate would have won the blue states Trump won) then it would have been more then plenty. People who hate these 5-4 decisions are probably not laughing now.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    Tiki said:s
    vaggar99 said:
    This sums up Trump supporters quite nicely. Regarding Space Force: “It doesn’t make a lot of sense and would be wasting a lot of dollars,” he said. “But at the same time, it’s going to be cool.”

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-show-exposes-how-trump-fans-have-no-idea-what-space-force-is?via=FB_Page&source=TDB
    Trumpism is a sad embrace of ignorance.  

    It is also the full embrace of fear and hate.
    Which is rooted in a rhetoric of fear, hate, ignorance, jealousy, and lies.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited June 2018
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Remember when "But Gorsuch..." was funny?

    Ugh. Really?


    Mitch McConnell and his hijacking of the supreme court for 11 months is responsible for Gorsuch, not the president. Any republican would've nominated someone with his credentials.

    No kidding.

    So what's the point of your post?
    If you're a conservative, which I am, and believe in conservative principles, which I do, then these decisions that have rolled out over the last few days are meaningful to you. They are far more important and long lasting then anything Trump himself can actually do. It explains why a conservative can support Trump even if he can be a jackass as "jackassery" in time will evaporate while these decisions will probably last a lifetime. The dwindling number of #NeverTrump conservatives would have preferred the average GOP voter to throw away their vote against their long term interests. But more to the point... I happen to think Trump is accomplishing a lot but there was a time only a few short months ago where many were saying "But Gorsuch..." as a punch line. What I am saying is that even if it was the only thing Trump accomplished just by the fact that he was elected (and there is no guarantee another republican candidate would have won the blue states Trump won) then it would have been more then plenty. People who hate these 5-4 decisions are probably not laughing now.


    What's conservative about separating families from the border or banning muslims from entering our country, or forcing American companies like Harley Davidson to produce their product overseas as a result of Trump's dumb trade war, or adding billions (trillions?) to the deficit? I think I am missing something here.


    There is nothing conservative about Donald Trump. Nothing. The man is a carnival barking fraud conservative who just placates to gun lovers, despite not being a gun enthusiast; and Christians, despite never going to church and never displaying any of their supposed values.


    Perhaps you're excited about Space Force!

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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Can our resident Trump interpreters (the ones who get all his 'jokes') explain what The Aura is?
    He mentioned it in his attack on Harley Davidson, who are struggling with his inept economics policies, and the capitalisation confuses me.
    Is it like 'The Secret'?
    Yea, wrap your mind around that one. Team Trump Treason Willy billy imposed tariffs and the EU replies in kind. Harley Davidson reacts by moving some operations oversees to remain competitive. Team Trump Treason threatens them with the biggest taxes they’ve ever seen and belittles them for being weak. It’s like Donny Jr. ate more than half of Eric’s ice cream because Team Trump Treason made them split a scoop when he’s got 60 gallons in the freezer and when Eric complained, Team Trump Treason whooped his ass for defying his logic. What a fucking nightmare. Harley riders should parade to DC and surround the White House and rev their engines 24/7 for a few weeks. Do the same at Team Trump Treasons hotels. This guy really needs a smack in the mouth. Hello, Pompeo? Not that I advocate that but I think it may very well be the only thing that will register with him and get his attention.
    Please stop saying "Team Trump Treason." You sound like Trump himself when refers to Hillary as "Crooked Hillary" or Cruz as "Lyin' Ted."
    No, no I won’t. Not until Team Trump Treason is impeached, voted out of office or resigns. He’s not fit to serve in the office of the presidency. In fact, he’s not fit to serve anyone at a Taco Bell. Buh, buh, buh Hillary!
    I'm beginning to believe he will never be impeached (and he will never resign). the democrats have proven themselves to be spineless pussies for the last few years. 
    I'm not sure what the Dems have to do with it. The other Republicans are the ones who have proven themselves spineless pussies.
    I've been reading quite a lot of articles and opinion pieces lately that are saying the dems need to grow some balls and start standing up for what's right, instead of the "let's be civil" stuff. I agree with "let's be civil", I think even yesterday I said something similar on here, but it's clearly not working. The low road is the one that keeps winning. 

    how do you combat that without fighting the same way? it failed in 2016, and it continues to fail in 2018. 

    Everything they've done has been reactionary. and when all you do is react,  your opponent remains ahead. 

    do I agree with Maxine waters? No. even though she has now said she was not encouraging violence, the message remains. You put something like that out there, and people will respond in ways you didn't anticipate. 

    But maybe she's onto something. 
    Civil?  Read a few of the comments on here and it's not very civil...

    Anitfa, heard of them?

    You did mention Mrs Waters and I'm sure there is more to follow.

    This calling every republican a racist thing will only make this country uglier.  It's sad and people will defend in doing so.

    I know you didn't call them racists Hugh so don't focus on that.


    Who called all republicans racist? More often I see the comment that they are okay with supporting trump, who is racist. 
    There was a good article in the NYT, I think, pointing out that “conservative” and “republican” are no longer equivalent. I would say that someone who still supports the current Republican Party and its policies is at the least comfortable supporting a racist agenda. 
     
    Silly
    I didn't read the article, but it seems obvious that Trump's politics are not conservative.  Do you really not see the litany of non-conservative policies he is trying here (blown budget, trade wars, tariffs, picking winners and losers in the market place (see Amazon), etc.).  
    I agree with you. Trump is non-ideological in the sense he just wants "wins". For him it isn't about being conservative in any way unless being conservative can give him a "win" in another arena. I would bet that when it comes to appointing a conservative judge he does so not because he actually cares but because he thinks it will give him a "win" with the electorate. With respect to trade I believe he is a free-trader at heart but he recognizes that the world isn't really participating in a free and fair trade system so he is willing to take completely non-conservative position in order to generate a future economic "win" overall. In his mind he believes the US can withstand the negative aspects of a trade war and eventually "win" through future negotiated settlement. It's controversial but it is definitely a strategy. The debt is the biggest thing for sure but at the end of the day your country, my country, every country is screwed on debt unless they are willing to take on entitlement spending. It is "conservative" to want to cut this spending but I am not sure at the end of the day even Trump has the balls to tackle it. Which is why I am globally pessimistic...I don't think anybody has the balls.

    Lastly on "Trump's politics are not conservative" it amazes me that the democrats do not take advantage of this. There is no doubt in my mind that other then judges (which he has to appoint) he is by far the most liberal president the democrats will ever see. They have a massive opportunity to cut a deal with him on some liberal terms if only they chose not to "resist". He has the capacity like no other to turn to his GOP base and get them to pipe down. It seems to me that much could be solved if they threw their hatred down.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Remember when "But Gorsuch..." was funny?

    Ugh. Really?


    Mitch McConnell and his hijacking of the supreme court for 11 months is responsible for Gorsuch, not the president. Any republican would've nominated someone with his credentials.

    No kidding.

    So what's the point of your post?
    If you're a conservative, which I am, and believe in conservative principles, which I do, then these decisions that have rolled out over the last few days are meaningful to you. They are far more important and long lasting then anything Trump himself can actually do. It explains why a conservative can support Trump even if he can be a jackass as "jackassery" in time will evaporate while these decisions will probably last a lifetime. The dwindling number of #NeverTrump conservatives would have preferred the average GOP voter to throw away their vote against their long term interests. But more to the point... I happen to think Trump is accomplishing a lot but there was a time only a few short months ago where many were saying "But Gorsuch..." as a punch line. What I am saying is that even if it was the only thing Trump accomplished just by the fact that he was elected (and there is no guarantee another republican candidate would have won the blue states Trump won) then it would have been more then plenty. People who hate these 5-4 decisions are probably not laughing now.


    What's conservative about separating families from the border or banning muslims from entering our country, or forcing American companies like Harley Davidson to produce their product overseas as a result of Trump's dumb trade war, or adding billions (trillions?) to the deficit? I think I am missing something here.


    There is nothing conservative about Donald Trump. Nothing. The man is a carnival barking fraud conservative who just placates to gun lovers, despite not being a gun enthusiast; and Christians, despite never going to church and never displaying any of their supposed values.


    Perhaps you're excited about Space Force!

    he panders.  I can understand how the mouth breathers at his rallies go for it.  I will never understand how someone with an above 50 IQ could go for it.
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