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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mcgruff10 said:
    I'm not debating any of that, I'm just trying to think of ways this shutdown can end.  Trump is 100% to blame but If both sides aren't going to budge on their positions then what the hell is going to happen?


    “When the country goes to total hell — then you’ll have riots to go back to where we used to be when we were great,” he said on a “Fox & Friends” show.

  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,679
    mcgruff10 said:
    I'm not debating any of that, I'm just trying to think of ways this shutdown can end.  Trump is 100% to blame but If both sides aren't going to budge on their positions then what the hell is going to happen?
    it can and would end in a day if TSA in one or more of the major airports all walked off the job. the ensuing chaos would caused would be such a cluster fuck they would have to re-open the government. imagine if they all call out next Friday in Atlanta.  you know 2 days before the Super Bowl and one of the busiest airports in America.  if i was head of the TSA workers that would be my plan.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,201
    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't know, instead of 5.1 billion give him 2 billion.  Meet somewhere in the middle so government can open back up.
    No friggin' way.  What happens in six months when this funding runs out?  He holds the country hostage for another 2 billion.  You can't cave on this, because that becomes the MO.  The only way to give him the money is for him to provide something super painful to him... citizenship for DACA.  
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,730
    mrussel1 said:
    No friggin' way.  What happens in six months when this funding runs out?  He holds the country hostage for another 2 billion.  You can't cave on this, because that becomes the MO.  The only way to give him the money is for him to provide something super painful to him... citizenship for DACA.  
    Which is a complete no brainer to me.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • KatKat Posts: 4,930
    You can't give an extortionist holding government workers hostage a dime. It would set a precedent for any upcoming negotiations...it can't be rewarded in any way. He has to open the government first and then negotations can begin. This would be true for any party...red or blue.

    Falling down,...not staying down
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    pjhawks said:
    it can and would end in a day if TSA in one or more of the major airports all walked off the job. the ensuing chaos would caused would be such a cluster fuck they would have to re-open the government. imagine if they all call out next Friday in Atlanta.  you know 2 days before the Super Bowl and one of the busiest airports in America.  if i was head of the TSA workers that would be my plan.  
    I praise the ones that are refusing their paychecks during this shutdown, but it should be standard.  If the government is shutdown and government employees do not get their paychecks, then neither should congress or any other lawmakers for that matter:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/how-much-members-of-congress-get-paid-even-during-government-shutdowns.html
    That would end it quicker than a TSA walkout, in my opinion.


  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,679
    PJPOWER said:
    I praise the ones that are refusing their paychecks during this shutdown, but it should be standard.  If the government is shutdown and government employees do not get their paychecks, then neither should congress or any other lawmakers for that matter:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/how-much-members-of-congress-get-paid-even-during-government-shutdowns.html
    That would end it quicker than a TSA walkout, in my opinion.


    agree but i don't see that happenening
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,580
    pjhawks said:
    it can and would end in a day if TSA in one or more of the major airports all walked off the job. the ensuing chaos would caused would be such a cluster fuck they would have to re-open the government. imagine if they all call out next Friday in Atlanta.  you know 2 days before the Super Bowl and one of the busiest airports in America.  if i was head of the TSA workers that would be my plan.  
    I have a flight today ... don’t talk like that.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,201
    I have a flight today ... don’t talk like that.
    I flew yesterday.  My connection out of JFK was 2 hours late.  Hour out of the gate, hour on the runway.  Not good.  

    Temp agreement reached according to Drudge.  Announcement at 1PM. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,123
    edited January 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    Where can you buy a house for 15k? Even if you could buy that cheap I m guessing you’d have to go to the studs. 

    I've seen listings in some places for even less in the US - sometimes I look just out of curiosity... House prices in a lot of areas in the USA is almost like real estate porn for Vancouverites. :lol:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,312
    Starting the weekend early with some twotter meltdown: “Greatest Witch Hunt in the History of our Country! NO COLLUSION! Border Coyotes, Drug Dealers and Human Traffickers are treated better. Who alerted CNN to be there?”

    who alerted CNN? What a dope. We could figure this out since it was highly likely indictments were coming today and Stone was high on the list. Next up Donny Jr.  (I must have a insider in the Special Counsel to make that crazy prediction). 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,123
    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't understand the dems platform on this one, there's obviously already a wall in place; what is the harm in adding to it?
    Wtf? So you're actually for this fucking wall??? Haven't you been paying attention?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    FF's biggest concern is who alerted CNN.....what a joke he is.
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,123
    Lizard said:
    FF's biggest concern is who alerted CNN.....what a joke he is.
    CNN alerted CNN, lol.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,201
    mcgruff10 said:
    Which is a complete no brainer to me.
    But then the right wing cries AMNESTY!  Even though we are talking about children who came here without their own actual consent.  Stupid and inhumane.  
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJ_Soul said:
    I've seen listings in some places for even less in the US - sometimes I look just out of curiosity... House prices in a lot of areas in the USA is almost like real estate porn for Vancouverites. :lol:
    Hahaha that's funny!  

    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Lizard said:
    FF's biggest concern is who alerted CNN.....what a joke he is.
    I love this.

    There is literally a show called COPS where the follow police around and film them arresting people.  You may have heard of it, it's been on since 1989. (jesus?! is that right?!  checks wiki...yup 1989)

    Now it's suddenly an issue.  And you have the song Bad Boys in your head.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,285
    Go congresswoman Omar.
  • PJ_Soul said:
    Wtf? So you're actually for this fucking wall??? Haven't you been paying attention?
    Border Patrol wants a wall, Homeland Security does not.

    BP is only 5% of HLS so they don't really care what they have to say, as heard on NPR this morning.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,123
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,285
    edited January 2019
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,201
    Nancy showed Trump who really holds the purse strings and that she plays to win...


  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,123
    edited January 2019
    ^^^ "Medieval barrier" is a good term for the stupid wall.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,285
  • KatKat Posts: 4,930
    PJ_Soul said:
    ^^^ "Medieval barrier" is a good term for the stupid wall.
    Just heard...the wall's name is Nancy.

    Falling down,...not staying down
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,595
    So reopen today. Renegotiate until Feb 15th. Get nowhere. Pull the emergency card. Get called into the 9th court and lose badly but save face with the base because of that damn Liberal 9th court is so Liberal. This is our next two months to a year I am guessing on this issue. 
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