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  • Try to stay away from the political threads..like Religion, its just always going to strike up an argument..BUT..why not quit wasting money on Mars?? That money could build a few feet of wall..

    Because we're going to need to live there soon. Sooner than expected.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,981
    edited January 2019
    Try to stay away from the political threads..like Religion, its just always going to strike up an argument..BUT..why not quit wasting money on Mars?? That money could build a few feet of wall..

    Because we're going to need to live there soon. Sooner than expected.
    Yeah, space exploration and all the scientific breakthroughs that come from it are definitely important and should not ever be cut. It's not a waste of money at all. What's wasteful is how much is spent on the US military. It's insane. That Space Force is a stupid waste as well. Cut that, not the worthwhile and forward-looking space exploration that NASA does.
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  • wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Try to stay away from the political threads..like Religion, its just always going to strike up an argument..BUT..why not quit wasting money on Mars?? That money could build a few feet of wall..

    Because we're going to need to live there soon. Sooner than expected.
       I'm thinking Canada..not Mars.. ;)=)


     I'm not saying to shut down NASA btw..
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  • wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    edited January 2019
    Unless, of course, Canada builds a wall
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,817
    Just looked at CNN front page. 

    “Trump caved”

    pelosi has trump “on his knees”

    In this particular issue and this particular president blowhard it makes sense. I just hope that we don’t have all the news outlets becoming like Fox News and saying compromise = defeat. 

    Probably reading too much into it since this was trump and his stupid stand. Probably would be very different in the future.
    He should of taken the bargain three weeks ago that was in place he would of averted the shutdown and could of then had some negotiating power instead he actually caved into Coulter & Limbaugh and comes out looking like the idiot he is ! 
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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,499
    Build a wall around mars. It will be about just as useful. Living on mars, lol. Building walls, lol. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,981
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.

    Team Trump Treason asked the administrator of NASA when he expected a manned mission to mars and he replied with 2050. Team Trump Treason then asked if he could do it before the end of his term. Clueless.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,785
    Just looked at CNN front page. 

    “Trump caved”

    pelosi has trump “on his knees”

    In this particular issue and this particular president blowhard it makes sense. I just hope that we don’t have all the news outlets becoming like Fox News and saying compromise = defeat. 

    Probably reading too much into it since this was trump and his stupid stand. Probably would be very different in the future.
    He should of taken the bargain three weeks ago that was in place he would of averted the shutdown and could of then had some negotiating power instead he actually caved into Coulter & Limbaugh and comes out looking like the idiot he is ! 
    He literally got ZERO for the 35 days.  His only accomplishment was alienating the few reasonable people left that may support him, and dividing his base.  What a political genius.
  • mrussel1 said:
    Just looked at CNN front page. 

    “Trump caved”

    pelosi has trump “on his knees”

    In this particular issue and this particular president blowhard it makes sense. I just hope that we don’t have all the news outlets becoming like Fox News and saying compromise = defeat. 

    Probably reading too much into it since this was trump and his stupid stand. Probably would be very different in the future.
    He should of taken the bargain three weeks ago that was in place he would of averted the shutdown and could of then had some negotiating power instead he actually caved into Coulter & Limbaugh and comes out looking like the idiot he is ! 
    He literally got ZERO for the 35 days.  His only accomplishment was alienating the few reasonable people left that may support him, and dividing his base.  What a political genius.

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,981
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.

    Team Trump Treason asked the administrator of NASA when he expected a manned mission to mars and he replied with 2050. Team Trump Treason then asked if he could do it before the end of his term. Clueless.
    :lol: He's such an idiot.
    I actually think humans will set foot on Mars before 2050 because the private sector will get there long before NASA does. But we shall see.
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.

    Team Trump Treason asked the administrator of NASA when he expected a manned mission to mars and he replied with 2050. Team Trump Treason then asked if he could do it before the end of his term. Clueless.

    There's no way he asked this. Are you being serious?
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,482
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.

    Team Trump Treason asked the administrator of NASA when he expected a manned mission to mars and he replied with 2050. Team Trump Treason then asked if he could do it before the end of his term. Clueless.
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    mrussel1 said:
    Just looked at CNN front page. 

    “Trump caved”

    pelosi has trump “on his knees”

    In this particular issue and this particular president blowhard it makes sense. I just hope that we don’t have all the news outlets becoming like Fox News and saying compromise = defeat. 

    Probably reading too much into it since this was trump and his stupid stand. Probably would be very different in the future.
    He should of taken the bargain three weeks ago that was in place he would of averted the shutdown and could of then had some negotiating power instead he actually caved into Coulter & Limbaugh and comes out looking like the idiot he is ! 
    He literally got ZERO for the 35 days.  His only accomplishment was alienating the few reasonable people left that may support him, and dividing his base.  What a political genius.
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  • Edved82Edved82 Ireland Posts: 1,279
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.

    Team Trump Treason asked the administrator of NASA when he expected a manned mission to mars and he replied with 2050. Team Trump Treason then asked if he could do it before the end of his term. Clueless.

    There's no way he asked this. Are you being serious?
    Yeah that's been widely reported today. The man is just mind bogglingly dumb.
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  • Edved82 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.

    Team Trump Treason asked the administrator of NASA when he expected a manned mission to mars and he replied with 2050. Team Trump Treason then asked if he could do it before the end of his term. Clueless.

    There's no way he asked this. Are you being serious?
    Yeah that's been widely reported today. The man is just mind bogglingly dumb.

    Holy f**k.
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    This quote function is messing me up! Ha!
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.

    Team Trump Treason asked the administrator of NASA when he expected a manned mission to mars and he replied with 2050. Team Trump Treason then asked if he could do it before the end of his term. Clueless.

    There's no way he asked this. Are you being serious?
    Like a heart attack. It’s in Den of Vipers. The author was on CNN and spoke about excerpts from his book. It was in his way to tele-connecting to the international space station to congratulate them. He was practicing saying, “hello space station, this is your president,” seemingly oblivious to it being “international.”
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Unless, of course, Canada builds a wall
    We might go with the privacy hedge as opposed to a wall...
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Build a wall around mars. It will be about just as useful. Living on mars, lol. Building walls, lol. 
    Yeah, we are not living off this planet any time soon.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    It will be many thousands of years before Mars is more habitable than Earth.  
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,817
    The White House is requesting professional divers to bring the Baffoon back up from the cave Nancy kicked him into ! 
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,815
    Edved82 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.

    Team Trump Treason asked the administrator of NASA when he expected a manned mission to mars and he replied with 2050. Team Trump Treason then asked if he could do it before the end of his term. Clueless.

    There's no way he asked this. Are you being serious?
    Yeah that's been widely reported today. The man is just mind bogglingly dumb.
    Once again I have to ask. ....

    Who is the bigger idiot?
    The idiot who says the idiotic things?
    Or the believers/supporters/voters of the idiot who says the idiotic things?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,977
    edited January 2019
    Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.


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    c-r-a-c-k-i-n-g....

    Donald Trump returns to the West Wing after his press conference

    President Donald Trump leaves after speaking about a temporary reopening of the federal government while making a statement in the Rose Garden on Friday. | Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images

    WHITE HOUSE

    ‘All for nothing’: Trump’s wall retreat bewilders allies

    Before the president was done talking on Friday, a group text chain with several former Trump aides lit up with complaints.


    Before President Donald Trump finished speaking from the Rose Garden, putting a temporary end to the five-week government shutdown, a running group text between several of his former aides lit up with complaints.

    “[Speaker Nancy] Pelosi ordered everything off the menu and left Trump hanging with the bill,” one Trump ally texted to the group.

    “President Nancy Pelosi, she runs the country now,” said a former White House official. “We went from indefinite shutdown, to down payment, to cave — all within a span of 24 hours.”

    That official said that Trump’s core supporters and former aides are “furious” and “melting down.”

    Bewildered by his decision to accept a deal without funding for a wall on the southern border — not even the “down payment” the White House had requested a day earlier — some of his most loyal supporters fretted that Trump was in danger of losing his fervent base that has fueled his presidency. It didn’t help that special counsel Robert Mueller had just released more details about the Trump campaign’s alleged attempts to backchannel with WikiLeaks during the election.

    It all left Trump staring at a tough road ahead. Having staked his nascent 2020 reelection messaging to the wall fight, Trump now can’t claim victory as Democrats start entering the field. After stumbling in his first bout with Pelosi, Trump must now face an invigorated Democratic-led House keen to investigate the White House. And following Mueller's reveal of more evidence that Trump’s 2016 team tried to furtively gather intel about hacked Democratic emails, Trump will have to fend off increasing calls for impeachment.

    Trump’s allies in Congress and some conservative immigration advocates did come to the president’s defense on Friday, arguing that he was taking the high road and calling Democrats’ bluff on a vow to negotiate on border security once the government reopened.


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    Trump also defended himself late Friday on Twitter.

    "I wish people would read or listen to my words on the Border Wall. This was in no way a concession. It was taking care of millions of people who were getting badly hurt by the Shutdown with the understanding that in 21 days, if no deal is done, it’s off to the races!" he wrote.

    But the moment still seemed deflating for a president who prides himself on winning so much, “you're going to get tired of winning.”

    During the month-long shutdown, Trump’s approval ratings dropped to record lows, his much-touted economy lost steam because of the shutdown and conservative immigration activists rolled their eyes over the his wall fixation.

    And the wall is the one issue that Trump’s allies say he can’t lose on. Just three weeks ago, GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham predicted doom if Trump didn’t get wall funding.

    “He’s not going to sign a bill that doesn't have money for the wall. … If he gives in now, that's the end of 2019 in terms of him being an effective president,” Graham said on FOX News. “That’s probably the end of his presidency.”

    Now he’ll find out.

    The agreement Trump announced on Friday funds the government until Feb. 15, giving congressional negotiators three weeks to work out a larger immigration deal. Democratic leaders, including Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, expressed optimism that such an agreement could be reached. But others, including numerous Republicans, were less confident.

    “There isn’t any insurance policy on that,” said Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.)

    Trump made the decision to reopen the government Friday after the Federal Aviation Administration grounded flights bound to New York’s LaGuardia Airport because air traffic control staff, who were not being paid, called in sick.


    “FAA shutting airports is a losing card,” said a former Trump adviser who remains close to the White House. “He doesn’t care about federal workers. But pissing off travelers — watch out.”

    It’s not the first time Trump has lost a legislative battle in his two years as president. He failed to get Republicans to unite over a plan to repeal Obamacare in 2017. And he rebuffed a bipartisan immigration reform package in 2018. But Friday’s retreat was the most high-profile to date.

    “I’m not sure allies are going along with it, more just letting it happen. It’s like watching a house completely engulfed in flames; there’s nothing you can do except watch,” a former campaign aide told POLITICO when asked about the reaction from hard-line immigration groups like the Federation for American Immigration Reform, whose president Dan Stein appeared to tepidly endorse Trump’s latest strategy.

    In a statement, Stein said Trump “acted in good faith” to reopen parts of the federal government that have been shuttered for more than a month. “The ball is now in Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer’s court to demonstrate theirs.”

    Three former Trump aides disagreed with Stein’s assessment, claiming the president raised a white flag on Friday and surrendered the already-limited leverage he had left. All three expressed dismay at the president’s strategy over the past 72 hours — from him submitting to Pelosi’s request to delay the State of the Union until the government reopened to endorsing a wall-less spending bill while congressional Democrats and Republicans hash things out.


    “He allowed 35 days of chaos and hurt all for nothing," said the second former White House official. "I’m so glad people will start being paid, but this could have been done in December.”

    The White House allies said their chief concern going forward is a situation in which Trump backpedals again if a deal isn’t struck in the coming weeks. The White House has left a national emergency declaration on the table, suggesting the president could still invoke executive authority to secure funding for a barrier along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Attorneys in the White House counsel’s office have spent weeks reviewing the legality of such a move, parsing the various options, according to one Republican close to the White House.

    “He’s going to cave again in [three] weeks,” predicted the former campaign official. “Democrats have Trump by the balls.”

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Edved82 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.

    Team Trump Treason asked the administrator of NASA when he expected a manned mission to mars and he replied with 2050. Team Trump Treason then asked if he could do it before the end of his term. Clueless.

    There's no way he asked this. Are you being serious?
    Yeah that's been widely reported today. The man is just mind bogglingly dumb.
    Once again I have to ask. ....

    Who is the bigger idiot?
    The idiot who says the idiotic things?
    Or the believers/supporters/voters of the idiot who says the idiotic things?
    I mean, if you have to ask... :)
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  • Who’s tougher? Nancy or Little Rocket Man? One has nuclear missiles, the other doesn’t. Cue up that Nobel.
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  • “There was no collusion.”
    ”I don’t know any Russians.”
    ”I have nothing to hide.”
    ”I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”
    ”We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”

    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.


    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/26/us/politics/trump-contacts-russians-wikileaks.html
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  • c-r-a-c-k-i-n-g....

    Donald Trump returns to the West Wing after his press conference

    President Donald Trump leaves after speaking about a temporary reopening of the federal government while making a statement in the Rose Garden on Friday. | Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images

    WHITE HOUSE

    ‘All for nothing’: Trump’s wall retreat bewilders allies

    Before the president was done talking on Friday, a group text chain with several former Trump aides lit up with complaints.


    Before President Donald Trump finished speaking from the Rose Garden, putting a temporary end to the five-week government shutdown, a running group text between several of his former aides lit up with complaints.

    “[Speaker Nancy] Pelosi ordered everything off the menu and left Trump hanging with the bill,” one Trump ally texted to the group.

    “President Nancy Pelosi, she runs the country now,” said a former White House official. “We went from indefinite shutdown, to down payment, to cave — all within a span of 24 hours.”

    That official said that Trump’s core supporters and former aides are “furious” and “melting down.”

    Bewildered by his decision to accept a deal without funding for a wall on the southern border — not even the “down payment” the White House had requested a day earlier — some of his most loyal supporters fretted that Trump was in danger of losing his fervent base that has fueled his presidency. It didn’t help that special counsel Robert Mueller had just released more details about the Trump campaign’s alleged attempts to backchannel with WikiLeaks during the election.

    It all left Trump staring at a tough road ahead. Having staked his nascent 2020 reelection messaging to the wall fight, Trump now can’t claim victory as Democrats start entering the field. After stumbling in his first bout with Pelosi, Trump must now face an invigorated Democratic-led House keen to investigate the White House. And following Mueller's reveal of more evidence that Trump’s 2016 team tried to furtively gather intel about hacked Democratic emails, Trump will have to fend off increasing calls for impeachment.

    Trump’s allies in Congress and some conservative immigration advocates did come to the president’s defense on Friday, arguing that he was taking the high road and calling Democrats’ bluff on a vow to negotiate on border security once the government reopened.


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    Trump also defended himself late Friday on Twitter.

    "I wish people would read or listen to my words on the Border Wall. This was in no way a concession. It was taking care of millions of people who were getting badly hurt by the Shutdown with the understanding that in 21 days, if no deal is done, it’s off to the races!" he wrote.

    But the moment still seemed deflating for a president who prides himself on winning so much, “you're going to get tired of winning.”

    During the month-long shutdown, Trump’s approval ratings dropped to record lows, his much-touted economy lost steam because of the shutdown and conservative immigration activists rolled their eyes over the his wall fixation.

    And the wall is the one issue that Trump’s allies say he can’t lose on. Just three weeks ago, GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham predicted doom if Trump didn’t get wall funding.

    “He’s not going to sign a bill that doesn't have money for the wall. … If he gives in now, that's the end of 2019 in terms of him being an effective president,” Graham said on FOX News. “That’s probably the end of his presidency.”

    Now he’ll find out.

    The agreement Trump announced on Friday funds the government until Feb. 15, giving congressional negotiators three weeks to work out a larger immigration deal. Democratic leaders, including Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, expressed optimism that such an agreement could be reached. But others, including numerous Republicans, were less confident.

    “There isn’t any insurance policy on that,” said Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.)

    Trump made the decision to reopen the government Friday after the Federal Aviation Administration grounded flights bound to New York’s LaGuardia Airport because air traffic control staff, who were not being paid, called in sick.


    “FAA shutting airports is a losing card,” said a former Trump adviser who remains close to the White House. “He doesn’t care about federal workers. But pissing off travelers — watch out.”

    It’s not the first time Trump has lost a legislative battle in his two years as president. He failed to get Republicans to unite over a plan to repeal Obamacare in 2017. And he rebuffed a bipartisan immigration reform package in 2018. But Friday’s retreat was the most high-profile to date.

    “I’m not sure allies are going along with it, more just letting it happen. It’s like watching a house completely engulfed in flames; there’s nothing you can do except watch,” a former campaign aide told POLITICO when asked about the reaction from hard-line immigration groups like the Federation for American Immigration Reform, whose president Dan Stein appeared to tepidly endorse Trump’s latest strategy.

    In a statement, Stein said Trump “acted in good faith” to reopen parts of the federal government that have been shuttered for more than a month. “The ball is now in Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer’s court to demonstrate theirs.”

    Three former Trump aides disagreed with Stein’s assessment, claiming the president raised a white flag on Friday and surrendered the already-limited leverage he had left. All three expressed dismay at the president’s strategy over the past 72 hours — from him submitting to Pelosi’s request to delay the State of the Union until the government reopened to endorsing a wall-less spending bill while congressional Democrats and Republicans hash things out.


    “He allowed 35 days of chaos and hurt all for nothing," said the second former White House official. "I’m so glad people will start being paid, but this could have been done in December.”

    The White House allies said their chief concern going forward is a situation in which Trump backpedals again if a deal isn’t struck in the coming weeks. The White House has left a national emergency declaration on the table, suggesting the president could still invoke executive authority to secure funding for a barrier along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Attorneys in the White House counsel’s office have spent weeks reviewing the legality of such a move, parsing the various options, according to one Republican close to the White House.

    “He’s going to cave again in [three] weeks,” predicted the former campaign official. “Democrats have Trump by the balls.”


    Smallest hand I've ever seen. And why does it look like he has an ass on his head?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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