Only 2 Drummers Get In? RnRHOF. Merged

bootlegger10

These drummers were so influential that 5 left the band in 5 years. I think that pretty much says it all right there about how significant a role they played. While Jack had an interesting drum style I think his influence on the band was less musical and more about being a calming influence during the storm.

Merkin Baller

my2hands said:

lol

pdalowsky

mrpink90 said:

tweedyfanjen said:

Why would you want to sit in the audience and watch a band you were fired from be inducted into the Hall of Fame?

its not pearl jam's decision that hes not being inducted. as a sign of respect and appreciation for what he contributed to the band they should invite him. and i guarantee he would go.

Thats presuming he would be able to. Im sure i read not too long ago a warrant had been issued.

Could be wrong though

HughFreakingDillon

nalyd61 said:

Well I'm sure the band will appreciate him taking to social media. I like him but thats lame- if that was really him.....

totally lame. had they been thinking of inviting him before, that may have changed their minds. what is the "right thing"? it's not their call.

but what I find weird is, back when Metallica was getting inducted, Dave Mustaine (and even Lars) made it sound like it WAS the band's call not to induct him.

kramer73

see also: Nirvana

MickeyMouse

Each inductee gets 2 tickets so unless they wanna tell their wives to stay home this ain't happening.

igotid88

Spiritual_Chaos said:

igotid88 said:

I believe most of PJ's former drummers were in at least 2 successful bands or had steady work. Except for Dave A. Is there a reason. I mean he has a section of the population that loves him. You would think some band would want to tap into that market?

He played on some GnR demoes.

But I don't think the fact that he moved home and worked on smaller scale stuff instead of jumping into another big band says anything.

no, but he was one of the few in the band that liked all the success and attention the band was getting. I'm sure he would have liked to continue that somewhere

Spiritual_Chaos

my2hands said:

I don't care which drummer does or doesn't get in.... none of these guys would be getting in if they didn't meet Eddie Vedder

Jack Irons is already inducted.
Matt C will be inducted with Soundgarden.

If they didn't meet Eddie Vedder they might have met some other singer, been called something else and could have been even more famous/big.

Spiritual_Chaos

JB128716 said:

nicknyr15 said:

I can't believe people even care about Dave A getting in. He's nothing. Not a good song writer and an average drummer at best. He could NEVER play the shows we've come to expect from PJ now. NEVER.

He wrote Go.

I like Go.

Go is better than any song I've ever written.

Don't be so hard on yourself..!

Spiritual_Chaos

nicknyr15 said:

I can't believe people even care about Dave A getting in. He's nothing. Not a good song writer and an average drummer at best. He could NEVER play the shows we've come to expect from PJ now. NEVER.

In what way would he be more of "an average" drummer than Jack Irons, Matt C etc? Please.

And not a good idea to capitalise letters when what you're saying is stuff you know nothing about.

rbrum7

I don't think it's any surprise to anyone who actually knows the history of the band somewhat, that they don't like Dave based on the type of person he is and the way he acted towards the members of the band.

I don't want to get all political here or crush the dreams of any conservatives out there, but the band as a whole doesn't care much for conservatives, let alone get along with them. Read PJ20. Research what Glorified G was written about. He was a conservative minded dude from Texas and he didn't fit in with a bunch of liberal dudes from Seattle.

I'm sure every conservative that reads this will get bent out of shape, but the band is extremely liberal.

I'm not saying he won't be at the rock hall because of his views, but his views and actions back in the mid 90's caused enough friction between him and the band that they booted him and haven't included him in shit like they have like Jack Irons or collaborated with him or spoke fondly of him. I think if you look in the archives, the only time they've mentioned him prominently over the past 20 years is to say Angel was written by him when it was played this summer.

Look, I enjoyed Dave's powerful style drumming and wish they still had that backbone (even though I love Matt Cameron), but let's face it, the band doesn't care for him.

nicknyr15

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

I can't believe people even care about Dave A getting in. He's nothing. Not a good song writer and an average drummer at best. He could NEVER play the shows we've come to expect from PJ now. NEVER.

In what way would he be more of "an average" drummer than Jack Irons, Matt C etc? Please.

And not a good idea to capitalise letters when what you're saying is stuff you know nothing about.

I play drums. Matt C is way better and so is jack irons. My opinion ...relax Dave A is average at best

nicknyr15

Didn't Dave A have trouble nailing RVM in the studio? Imagine live. His style is to hit as many crashes as possible. Nothing special.

rssesq

#italiandrummersmatter

rbrum7

I don't think it's any surprise to anyone who actually knows the history of the band somewhat, that they don't like Dave based on the type of person he is and the way he acted towards the members of the band.

I don't want to get all political here or crush the dreams of any conservatives out there, but the band as a whole doesn't care much for conservatives, let alone get along with them. Read PJ20. Research what Glorified G was written about. He was a conservative minded dude from Texas and he didn't fit in with a bunch of liberal dudes from Seattle.

I'm sure every conservative that reads this will get bent out of shape, but the band is extremely liberal.

I'm not saying he won't be at the rock hall because of his views, but his views and actions back in the mid 90's caused enough friction between him and the band that they booted him and haven't included him in shit like they have like Jack Irons or collaborated with him or spoke fondly of him. I think if you look in the archives, the only time they've mentioned him prominently over the past 20 years is to say Angel was written by him when it was played this summer.

Look, I enjoyed Dave's powerful style drumming and wish they still had that backbone (even though I love Matt Cameron), but let's face it, the band doesn't care for him.

Spiritual_Chaos

igotid88 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

igotid88 said:

I believe most of PJ's former drummers were in at least 2 successful bands or had steady work. Except for Dave A. Is there a reason. I mean he has a section of the population that loves him. You would think some band would want to tap into that market?

He played on some GnR demoes.

But I don't think the fact that he moved home and worked on smaller scale stuff instead of jumping into another big band says anything.

no, but he was one of the few in the band that liked all the success and attention the band was getting. I'm sure he would have liked to continue that somewhere

Hmm. Yeah maybe. Would be cool to hear his story about that period.

Maybe he got shunned from the community and people didn't want/dare to be on Eddies side. Or maybe he was never part of the community.

He's the George Lazenby of rock drummers.

Spiritual_Chaos

rbrum7 said:

but let's face it, the band doesn't care for him.

jeffbr

rbrum7 said:

I don't think it's any surprise to anyone who actually knows the history of the band somewhat, that they don't like Dave based on the type of person he is and the way he acted towards the members of the band.

I don't want to get all political here or crush the dreams of any conservatives out there, but the band as a whole doesn't care much for conservatives, let alone get along with them.

Merkin Baller

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

I can't believe people even care about Dave A getting in. He's nothing. Not a good song writer and an average drummer at best. He could NEVER play the shows we've come to expect from PJ now. NEVER.

In what way would he be more of "an average" drummer than Jack Irons, Matt C etc? Please.

And not a good idea to capitalize letters when what you're saying is stuff you know nothing about.

Fixed.

jerparker20

Spiritual_Chaos said:

my2hands said:

I don't care which drummer does or doesn't get in.... none of these guys would be getting in if they didn't meet Eddie Vedder

Matt C will be inducted with Soundgarden.

I don't see Soundgarden being inducted anytime soon.