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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Frankly all the recent hacks make HRC look pretty smart for using her own server...

    As SoS she is aware of all the electronic surveillance and hacking going on out there... and knew she would be targeted...

    You guys keep falling for Putins plan to distract and divide the country
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    https://youtu.be/JmjflZRa1es

    "....not a single shred of proof"
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    We have begun to use "hack" and "leak" interchangeably and we shouldn't. They are not synonymous terms. I'm guilty of it myself. These emails aren't leaks. Podesta didn't leak his email. Podesta was hacked and his emails were stolen. Two different things. We should keep that in mind.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JimmyV said:

    We have begun to use "hack" and "leak" interchangeably and we shouldn't. They are not synonymous terms. I'm guilty of it myself. These emails aren't leaks. Podesta didn't leak his email. Podesta was hacked and his emails were stolen. Two different things. We should keep that in mind.

    Good point, your distinction opens up an entire philosophical discussion about the publics right to know and the government's responsibility to it's citizens.

    My question is does it matter how a wife (us citizens) learned about her lying cheating husband (us government) either by his secretary telling her or by wife hacking husbands phone?
    Does the method by which the wife learned of the lying cheating diminish the lying and cheating?
    Should the wife not concern herself with husband lying and cheating because husbands lie and cheat?
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    JC29856 said:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/301133-clinton-camp-steps-up-attacks-on-wikileaks-bashes-media

    The Dem response to the leaks.

    These leaks threaten our national security especially the specific leaks that threatened our national security.
    The Russians are interfering with our elections by hacking emails that prove we interfered with our elections, specifically the democratic primaries.

    ...and for anyone not familiar with the leaks the emails are just campaign minutia, the real issue is Donald super Hitler Trump.

    Of course. When you can't look at yourself and your errors, you have to point the finger at Russia and Trump and anyone else worthy of guilt.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    JC29856 said:

    JimmyV said:

    We have begun to use "hack" and "leak" interchangeably and we shouldn't. They are not synonymous terms. I'm guilty of it myself. These emails aren't leaks. Podesta didn't leak his email. Podesta was hacked and his emails were stolen. Two different things. We should keep that in mind.

    Good point, your distinction opens up an entire philosophical discussion about the publics right to know and the government's responsibility to it's citizens.

    My question is does it matter how a wife (us citizens) learned about her lying cheating husband (us government) either by his secretary telling her or by wife hacking husbands phone?
    Does the method by which the wife learned of the lying cheating diminish the lying and cheating?
    Should the wife not concern herself with husband lying and cheating because husbands lie and cheat?
    I don't think it necessarily does. If there are things we should know in these emails I'm glad we now know them.

    At the same time, we should remember that Podesta is a bit of a victim here. Cyber crime is still a crime. He now has had his emails opened up to the world, against his will.

    The information we learn is valuable, but the method by which it was acquired is ethically questionable.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JimmyV said:

    JC29856 said:

    JimmyV said:

    We have begun to use "hack" and "leak" interchangeably and we shouldn't. They are not synonymous terms. I'm guilty of it myself. These emails aren't leaks. Podesta didn't leak his email. Podesta was hacked and his emails were stolen. Two different things. We should keep that in mind.

    Good point, your distinction opens up an entire philosophical discussion about the publics right to know and the government's responsibility to it's citizens.

    My question is does it matter how a wife (us citizens) learned about her lying cheating husband (us government) either by his secretary telling her or by wife hacking husbands phone?
    Does the method by which the wife learned of the lying cheating diminish the lying and cheating?
    Should the wife not concern herself with husband lying and cheating because husbands lie and cheat?
    I don't think it necessarily does. If there are things we should know in these emails I'm glad we now know them.

    At the same time, we should remember that Podesta is a bit of a victim here. Cyber crime is still a crime. He now has had his emails opened up to the world, against his will.

    The information we learn is valuable, but the method by which it was acquired is ethically questionable.
    Understandable but we have to balance that against the US citizens being victims of lying cheating and corrupt government.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    JC29856 said:

    JimmyV said:

    JC29856 said:

    JimmyV said:

    We have begun to use "hack" and "leak" interchangeably and we shouldn't. They are not synonymous terms. I'm guilty of it myself. These emails aren't leaks. Podesta didn't leak his email. Podesta was hacked and his emails were stolen. Two different things. We should keep that in mind.

    Good point, your distinction opens up an entire philosophical discussion about the publics right to know and the government's responsibility to it's citizens.

    My question is does it matter how a wife (us citizens) learned about her lying cheating husband (us government) either by his secretary telling her or by wife hacking husbands phone?
    Does the method by which the wife learned of the lying cheating diminish the lying and cheating?
    Should the wife not concern herself with husband lying and cheating because husbands lie and cheat?
    I don't think it necessarily does. If there are things we should know in these emails I'm glad we now know them.

    At the same time, we should remember that Podesta is a bit of a victim here. Cyber crime is still a crime. He now has had his emails opened up to the world, against his will.

    The information we learn is valuable, but the method by which it was acquired is ethically questionable.
    Understandable but we have to balance that against the US citizens being victims of lying cheating and corrupt government.
    True.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2016
    I'm skipping release 8 of Podesta email hack.

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Ouwch!

    https://youtu.be/kopkTq65LZk
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11011

    Attachments
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2016
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10413

    Podesta talking about having a TS clearance in a gmail account and how it could benefit Clinton Foundation.

    Anyone know what the first rule of holding a TS clearance is?

    Edit: Podesta is a campaigning manager. Do all CM for hopeful pres runners have TS clearance?
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    If all of Hilliary speeches are as damning as the 3 released today, she should have released them long ago and end the controversy. I just woke up with 10fidy spilled in my lap and on my phone...last thing I remember was reading speech #2.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3023

    From:mharris@hillaryclinton.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com Date: 2016-01-05 17:00 Subject: Re: Twitterstorm Tuesday - January 5

    > wrote: > > FYI > > Sent from Donna's I Pad. Follow me on twitter @donnabrazile > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* Sarah Ford <<b>sarahford@berniesanders.com> > *Date:* January 4, 2016 at 10:26:47 PM EST > *To:* undisclosed-recipients:; > *Subject:* *Twitterstorm Tuesday - January 5*

    Anyone know Sarah Ford? Bernie staffer mole
  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    dont follow politiks
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2016
    Deputy National Press Secretary Sarah Ford
    (Nov. 2015) National press secretary for Draft Biden 2016 to Nov. 2015. B.A. in public relations and political science from DePaul University, 2015.


    https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-ford-5370b352
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Bill Clinton tells the truth about their plans to frame Trump with friendly New York Times in february!! "President Clinton… Clinton, like others, thinks that… only a well-financed, concerted campaign portrayed him as dangerous and bigoted will win… President Clinton (like Mrs. Clinton and many other Dems) thinks the single greatest weapon against Trump is Trump's own instinct to make outrageous, divisive, even hateful comments that can come across as unpresidential"

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4664
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    EMAILID 10275 Gathering information on Juanita Broaddrick, who accused Bill Clinton of raping her. They likely want to destroy Broaddrick to neutralize her accusation, which creates the public image that Bill Clinton is a rapist. David Kendall writes : "The first is the affidavit and cover letter from her lawyer. This document makes clear that Broaddrick is indeed “Jane Doe #5” in the Paula Jones suit. I believe this has been unsealed but before we release it publicly, I’d need to check." - So this guy is gathering documents and sending them to Podesta BEFORE he checked whether it was unsealed or not. It's OK if I send it by email, I'm sure nobody will find out... https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10275
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    EMAILID 10353 Reporters on the Clinton campaign bus accepted off-the-record parties at the home of John Pedesta. "Thursday night, April 9th at 7:00p.m. Dinner at the Home of John Podesta. This will be with about 20 reporters who will closely cover the campaign (aka the bus)." Were they bribing them with lavish parties for better coverage or they were simply thanking them for services already rendered? https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10353
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    EMAILID 10728 Brent Budowsky triumphantly reports to John Podesta that he finished his latest article. It is titled "The Magic of Bill Clinton". Brent writes to Podesta in the subject line "Hope this helps" Podesta's response? "Yep". By the way here is an archive link to the article Budowsky wrote http://archive.is/ayD4m to "help out" the Clinton campaign. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10728
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