EMAILID 16024 re47 and cbaker agree to put the former Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm on the CTR paylist as an official CTR shill. This seems necessary because they want to start paying out money to her immediately. After a while they will move her to another "vehicle" (slush fund?), to draw salary from somewhere else. CTR is Correct The Record, a super PAC, most known for massive shill campaigns, using paid posters on social media like Reddit and Facebook, funded by millions of dollars.
I explored with Marc what the limitations would be on HFA's use of Governor Granholm if she were paid by Correct the Record. As a threshold matter we could not call her a spokesman for the campaign or schedule her directly. We would be able to refer groups or media to her if they are looking for a non-campaign, third part surrogate, the same way we might refer them to the DNC Chair or Stephanie Schriock. For example this weekend she spoke at the Ohio State Party dinner. If she were at Correct the Record we could at least make sure her speaking and media opportunities met our needs/requests. Finally, as a person paid by CTR she could not solicit donations for the campaign. She could be at CTR for a period and move to some other vehicle (New York - or Michigan- state party, DNC, HFA) at any point (i.e. there is no waiting period).
EMAILID 16024 re47 and cbaker agree to put the former Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm on the CTR paylist as an official CTR shill. This seems necessary because they want to start paying out money to her immediately. After a while they will move her to another "vehicle" (slush fund?), to draw salary from somewhere else. CTR is Correct The Record, a super PAC, most known for massive shill campaigns, using paid posters on social media like Reddit and Facebook, funded by millions of dollars.
I explored with Marc what the limitations would be on HFA's use of Governor Granholm if she were paid by Correct the Record. As a threshold matter we could not call her a spokesman for the campaign or schedule her directly. We would be able to refer groups or media to her if they are looking for a non-campaign, third part surrogate, the same way we might refer them to the DNC Chair or Stephanie Schriock. For example this weekend she spoke at the Ohio State Party dinner. If she were at Correct the Record we could at least make sure her speaking and media opportunities met our needs/requests. Finally, as a person paid by CTR she could not solicit donations for the campaign. She could be at CTR for a period and move to some other vehicle (New York - or Michigan- state party, DNC, HFA) at any point (i.e. there is no waiting period).
EMAILID 16024 re47 and cbaker agree to put the former Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm on the CTR paylist as an official CTR shill. This seems necessary because they want to start paying out money to her immediately. After a while they will move her to another "vehicle" (slush fund?), to draw salary from somewhere else. CTR is Correct The Record, a super PAC, most known for massive shill campaigns, using paid posters on social media like Reddit and Facebook, funded by millions of dollars.
I explored with Marc what the limitations would be on HFA's use of Governor Granholm if she were paid by Correct the Record. As a threshold matter we could not call her a spokesman for the campaign or schedule her directly. We would be able to refer groups or media to her if they are looking for a non-campaign, third part surrogate, the same way we might refer them to the DNC Chair or Stephanie Schriock. For example this weekend she spoke at the Ohio State Party dinner. If she were at Correct the Record we could at least make sure her speaking and media opportunities met our needs/requests. Finally, as a person paid by CTR she could not solicit donations for the campaign. She could be at CTR for a period and move to some other vehicle (New York - or Michigan- state party, DNC, HFA) at any point (i.e. there is no waiting period).
EMAILID 16024 re47 and cbaker agree to put the former Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm on the CTR paylist as an official CTR shill. This seems necessary because they want to start paying out money to her immediately. After a while they will move her to another "vehicle" (slush fund?), to draw salary from somewhere else. CTR is Correct The Record, a super PAC, most known for massive shill campaigns, using paid posters on social media like Reddit and Facebook, funded by millions of dollars.
I explored with Marc what the limitations would be on HFA's use of Governor Granholm if she were paid by Correct the Record. As a threshold matter we could not call her a spokesman for the campaign or schedule her directly. We would be able to refer groups or media to her if they are looking for a non-campaign, third part surrogate, the same way we might refer them to the DNC Chair or Stephanie Schriock. For example this weekend she spoke at the Ohio State Party dinner. If she were at Correct the Record we could at least make sure her speaking and media opportunities met our needs/requests. Finally, as a person paid by CTR she could not solicit donations for the campaign. She could be at CTR for a period and move to some other vehicle (New York - or Michigan- state party, DNC, HFA) at any point (i.e. there is no waiting period).
Brent Budowsky again. Colluding again. Carrying water and pushing agenda for Democrat party operatives. Completely corrupt, dishonest journalist, Budowsky might be the most corrupt of them all. Here he is trying to "sell the idea to Bernie people". He is trying to mislead them. However he has to explain himself to Podesta. He used a Bernie lead because it was part of the plan, you see.
I used a Bernie lead because I am trying to sell the idea to Bernie and his people, which helps Hillary and her people. I also praised and pre-endorsed Mayor de Blasio for reelection in the Observer, which is NY based and not always friendly to Democrats. Feel free to share this with whomever you like.
Thanks Brent, we will keep that in mind. Here is an archive of the "article" you wrote http://archive.is/loWyB trying to "sell some ideas" to Bernie people.
EMAILID 16024 re47 and cbaker agree to put the former Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm on the CTR paylist as an official CTR shill. This seems necessary because they want to start paying out money to her immediately. After a while they will move her to another "vehicle" (slush fund?), to draw salary from somewhere else. CTR is Correct The Record, a super PAC, most known for massive shill campaigns, using paid posters on social media like Reddit and Facebook, funded by millions of dollars.
I explored with Marc what the limitations would be on HFA's use of Governor Granholm if she were paid by Correct the Record. As a threshold matter we could not call her a spokesman for the campaign or schedule her directly. We would be able to refer groups or media to her if they are looking for a non-campaign, third part surrogate, the same way we might refer them to the DNC Chair or Stephanie Schriock. For example this weekend she spoke at the Ohio State Party dinner. If she were at Correct the Record we could at least make sure her speaking and media opportunities met our needs/requests. Finally, as a person paid by CTR she could not solicit donations for the campaign. She could be at CTR for a period and move to some other vehicle (New York - or Michigan- state party, DNC, HFA) at any point (i.e. there is no waiting period).
Adrienne K. Elrod claims that Hillary hates the press. Wouldn't be such a surprise since she is not taking unscripted queestions for months at a time. She might be allergic to the press or something. Elrod writes:
The other is that the press as a whole doesn't like Clinton very much (and the feeling is mutual)
EMAILID 16024 re47 and cbaker agree to put the former Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm on the CTR paylist as an official CTR shill. This seems necessary because they want to start paying out money to her immediately. After a while they will move her to another "vehicle" (slush fund?), to draw salary from somewhere else. CTR is Correct The Record, a super PAC, most known for massive shill campaigns, using paid posters on social media like Reddit and Facebook, funded by millions of dollars.
I explored with Marc what the limitations would be on HFA's use of Governor Granholm if she were paid by Correct the Record. As a threshold matter we could not call her a spokesman for the campaign or schedule her directly. We would be able to refer groups or media to her if they are looking for a non-campaign, third part surrogate, the same way we might refer them to the DNC Chair or Stephanie Schriock. For example this weekend she spoke at the Ohio State Party dinner. If she were at Correct the Record we could at least make sure her speaking and media opportunities met our needs/requests. Finally, as a person paid by CTR she could not solicit donations for the campaign. She could be at CTR for a period and move to some other vehicle (New York - or Michigan- state party, DNC, HFA) at any point (i.e. there is no waiting period).
John Podesta's real opinion on Senator Bernard Sanders
that** doofus Bernie**
This email also contains some thoughts of Democrat Edwards Tanden about Republicans. He seems like a truly sick individual, completely consumed by hatred in his heart. Tanden about all Rebuplicans:
If they don't cooperate then it is no longer hyperbole to say that they are truly enemies of the state, enemies of the world.
Edwards also said
I'm totally one hundred percent for Hillary because if any one of these bozos makes it to the White House, then we'll have a revolution on our hands.
Note that Edwards Tanden definitely includes Bernie in the "bozos", because he is directly replying here to a question about Bernie. Neera Tanden wasn't actually bothered by any of the above because she proudly forwarded the hate speech about Republicans and the insult to Bernie to John Podesta.
EMAILID 16024 re47 and cbaker agree to put the former Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm on the CTR paylist as an official CTR shill. This seems necessary because they want to start paying out money to her immediately. After a while they will move her to another "vehicle" (slush fund?), to draw salary from somewhere else. CTR is Correct The Record, a super PAC, most known for massive shill campaigns, using paid posters on social media like Reddit and Facebook, funded by millions of dollars.
This stuff ^^
It doesn't exist at the link
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
EMAILID 16024 re47 and cbaker agree to put the former Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm on the CTR paylist as an official CTR shill. This seems necessary because they want to start paying out money to her immediately. After a while they will move her to another "vehicle" (slush fund?), to draw salary from somewhere else. CTR is Correct The Record, a super PAC, most known for massive shill campaigns, using paid posters on social media like Reddit and Facebook, funded by millions of dollars.
I explored with Marc what the limitations would be on HFA's use of Governor Granholm if she were paid by Correct the Record. As a threshold matter we could not call her a spokesman for the campaign or schedule her directly. We would be able to refer groups or media to her if they are looking for a non-campaign, third part surrogate, the same way we might refer them to the DNC Chair or Stephanie Schriock. For example this weekend she spoke at the Ohio State Party dinner. If she were at Correct the Record we could at least make sure her speaking and media opportunities met our needs/requests. Finally, as a person paid by CTR she could not solicit donations for the campaign. She could be at CTR for a period and move to some other vehicle (New York - or Michigan- state party, DNC, HFA) at any point (i.e. there is no waiting period).
I don't see how you can find anything dishonest here. What I see is someone wanting to make sure they didn't break any rules.
plausible
so where did the "shill" commentary come from?
Granholm or CTR?
When I go to the link it has none of that commentary. That was my question...where did it come from?
Oh...sorry. I was posting just the links then it was suggested that I post some reference so I posted a few words, then it was suggested it be more descriptive. I'm mixing it up s bit, some a few words some with the commentary.
It seems like you are basing your outrage on the commentary (which is clearly biased) rather than the actual emails.
I was wondering the same thing. Where does that extremely biased commentary, that is being posted almost as though it is something official along with the email, coming from? So that is all your own commentary JC? Or someone else's? Either way, I feel like it compromises people's ability to read the content of the emails and make their own decisions about them.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
It seems like you are basing your outrage on the commentary (which is clearly biased) rather than the actual emails.
I was wondering the same thing. Where does that extremely biased commentary, that is being posted almost as though it is something official along with the email, coming from? So that is all your own commentary JC? Or someone else's? Either way, I feel like it compromises people's ability to read the content of the emails and make their own decisions about them.
i just post a few words of reference, the link is always provided for those to read themselves. reading each email individually without the perspective of the other emails makes it more difficult to grasp what is being said or going on.
It seems like you are basing your outrage on the commentary (which is clearly biased) rather than the actual emails.
I was wondering the same thing. Where does that extremely biased commentary, that is being posted almost as though it is something official along with the email, coming from? So that is all your own commentary JC? Or someone else's? Either way, I feel like it compromises people's ability to read the content of the emails and make their own decisions about them.
i just post a few words of reference, the link is always provided for those to read themselves. reading each email individually without the perspective of the other emails makes it more difficult to grasp what is being said or going on.
If that is your perspective on the Granholm email I don't follow at all.
edit: If the email said "here is how we are supposed to do it but let's do it this way to get around the rules" you might have something. It doesn't say that at all. On the contrary...hats off to them for making sure they followed the rules.
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Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
It seems like you are basing your outrage on the commentary (which is clearly biased) rather than the actual emails.
I was wondering the same thing. Where does that extremely biased commentary, that is being posted almost as though it is something official along with the email, coming from? So that is all your own commentary JC? Or someone else's? Either way, I feel like it compromises people's ability to read the content of the emails and make their own decisions about them.
i just post a few words of reference, the link is always provided for those to read themselves. reading each email individually without the perspective of the other emails makes it more difficult to grasp what is being said or going on.
If that is your perspective on the Granholm email I don't follow at all.
edit: If the email said "here is how we are supposed to do it but let's do it this way to get around the rules" you might have something. It doesn't say that at all. On the contrary...hats off to them for making sure they followed the rules.
It seems like you are basing your outrage on the commentary (which is clearly biased) rather than the actual emails.
Inclined to agree. I keep reading the commentary, and it is incongruous with the actual content of the emails. It seems like the biggest takeaway here is the State Department needs to upgrade their IT security. Other than that, these all look like typical boring politico conversations. I really just do not see anything outrageous here. The travesty is our government is going to bogged down in more investigations and hearings that go nowhere and serve no purpose other than more political theater, which is really what this all is anyways.
THE FACT THAT political candidates are closely coordinating with friendly Super PACs — making a mockery of a central tenet of the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision — is one of the biggest open secrets in Washington.
John Podesta's real opinion on Senator Bernard Sanders
that** doofus Bernie**
This email also contains some thoughts of Democrat Edwards Tanden about Republicans. He seems like a truly sick individual, completely consumed by hatred in his heart. Tanden about all Rebuplicans:
If they don't cooperate then it is no longer hyperbole to say that they are truly enemies of the state, enemies of the world.
Edwards also said
I'm totally one hundred percent for Hillary because if any one of these bozos makes it to the White House, then we'll have a revolution on our hands.
Note that Edwards Tanden definitely includes Bernie in the "bozos", because he is directly replying here to a question about Bernie. Neera Tanden wasn't actually bothered by any of the above because she proudly forwarded the hate speech about Republicans and the insult to Bernie to John Podesta.
A front has released through US Democratic media an elaborate story accusing Julian Assange of paedophillia & taking US$1million from Russia.
The pedophile story is old news, but anyway... This story is from wikileaks itself, which is "reporting" that US media is about to release a fake story about Julian Assange's pedophilia and the $1 million. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Well, that's an interesting beginning to a defense.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
John Podesta's real opinion on Senator Bernard Sanders
that** doofus Bernie**
This email also contains some thoughts of Democrat Edwards Tanden about Republicans. He seems like a truly sick individual, completely consumed by hatred in his heart. Tanden about all Rebuplicans:
If they don't cooperate then it is no longer hyperbole to say that they are truly enemies of the state, enemies of the world.
Edwards also said
I'm totally one hundred percent for Hillary because if any one of these bozos makes it to the White House, then we'll have a revolution on our hands.
Note that Edwards Tanden definitely includes Bernie in the "bozos", because he is directly replying here to a question about Bernie. Neera Tanden wasn't actually bothered by any of the above because she proudly forwarded the hate speech about Republicans and the insult to Bernie to John Podesta.
John Podesta's real opinion on Senator Bernard Sanders
that** doofus Bernie**
This email also contains some thoughts of Democrat Edwards Tanden about Republicans. He seems like a truly sick individual, completely consumed by hatred in his heart. Tanden about all Rebuplicans:
If they don't cooperate then it is no longer hyperbole to say that they are truly enemies of the state, enemies of the world.
Edwards also said
I'm totally one hundred percent for Hillary because if any one of these bozos makes it to the White House, then we'll have a revolution on our hands.
Note that Edwards Tanden definitely includes Bernie in the "bozos", because he is directly replying here to a question about Bernie. Neera Tanden wasn't actually bothered by any of the above because she proudly forwarded the hate speech about Republicans and the insult to Bernie to John Podesta.
John Podesta's real opinion on Senator Bernard Sanders
that** doofus Bernie**
This email also contains some thoughts of Democrat Edwards Tanden about Republicans. He seems like a truly sick individual, completely consumed by hatred in his heart. Tanden about all Rebuplicans:
If they don't cooperate then it is no longer hyperbole to say that they are truly enemies of the state, enemies of the world.
Edwards also said
I'm totally one hundred percent for Hillary because if any one of these bozos makes it to the White House, then we'll have a revolution on our hands.
Note that Edwards Tanden definitely includes Bernie in the "bozos", because he is directly replying here to a question about Bernie. Neera Tanden wasn't actually bothered by any of the above because she proudly forwarded the hate speech about Republicans and the insult to Bernie to John Podesta.
EMAILID 16024 re47 and cbaker agree to put the former Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm on the CTR paylist as an official CTR shill. This seems necessary because they want to start paying out money to her immediately. After a while they will move her to another "vehicle" (slush fund?), to draw salary from somewhere else. CTR is Correct The Record, a super PAC, most known for massive shill campaigns, using paid posters on social media like Reddit and Facebook, funded by millions of dollars.
I explored with Marc what the limitations would be on HFA's use of Governor Granholm if she were paid by Correct the Record. As a threshold matter we could not call her a spokesman for the campaign or schedule her directly. We would be able to refer groups or media to her if they are looking for a non-campaign, third part surrogate, the same way we might refer them to the DNC Chair or Stephanie Schriock. For example this weekend she spoke at the Ohio State Party dinner. If she were at Correct the Record we could at least make sure her speaking and media opportunities met our needs/requests. Finally, as a person paid by CTR she could not solicit donations for the campaign. She could be at CTR for a period and move to some other vehicle (New York - or Michigan- state party, DNC, HFA) at any point (i.e. there is no waiting period).
I don't see how you can find anything dishonest here. What I see is someone wanting to make sure they didn't break any rules.
plausible
so where did the "shill" commentary come from?
Granholm or CTR?
When I go to the link it has none of that commentary. That was my question...where did it come from?
Oh...sorry. I was posting just the links then it was suggested that I post some reference so I posted a few words, then it was suggested it be more descriptive. I'm mixing it up s bit, some a few words some with the commentary.
Obscure and deflect. Its a well worked Bush/Cheney strategy. Mix up the quotes, don't attribute clearly, muddle it up and expect the reader to chase down the confusion to make the intent clear. By then the seeds of doubt are planted.
If you want to be fair about what you're linking to, separate your words from the words of the email and link directly to your source for the supposition/commentary. You're making it read like everything is within the emails you link to but from what I've been able to discern, your words are being mixed in with the commentary and the link shows neither. Otherwise, just post the Wiki link and tell everyone to read it for themselves and be done with it to spare us. But the Lourde does work in mysterious ways.
When the ruling class is in panic, their first reaction is to hide the panic.
They react out of cynicism: when their masks are revealed, instead of running around naked, they usually point the finger at the mask they wear. These days the whole world could witness a postmodern version of the infamous quote “Let them eat cake”, attributed to Marie-Antoinette, queen of France during the French Revolution.
As a reaction to WikiLeaks publishing his emails, John Podesta, the man behind Hillary Clinton’s campaign, posted a photo of a dinner preparation, saying “I bet the lobster risotto is better than the food at the Ecuadorian Embassy”.
A similar version of vulgar cynicism emerged earlier this month when Hillary Clinton reacted to the claim that she reportedly wanted to “drone” WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange (“Can’t we just drone this guy?”) when she was the US Secretary of State. Instead of denying her comments, Clinton said that she doesn’t recall any such joke, “It would have been a joke if it had been said, but I don’t recall that”.
One doesn’t have to read between the lines to understand that if Hillary Clinton had said that, she would have considered it a joke. But when emperors joke, it usually has dire consequences for those who are the objects of their “humor.”
Cyber-war Not with Russia…but WikiLeaks
During the last few months I have visited Julian Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London several times and each time I came out of the Embassy, where he is spending his fifth year in political asylum under legitimate fear he might be extradited to the US, my thought was the following one: although he lives, without his family, in a postmodern version of solitary confinement (even prisoners are allowed to walk for up to one hour a day), although he has no access to fresh air or sunlight for more than 2000 days, although the UK government recently denied him safe passage to a hospital for an MRI scan, if his access to the internet would be cut off this would be the most severe attack on his physical and mental freedom.
The last time I saw him, which was only two weeks ago, he expressed the fear that, because he had already published leaks concerning US elections and with more to come, the US might find various ways to silence him, including pressuring Ecuador or even shutting down the internet.
What seemed a distant possibility only two weeks ago, soon became a self-fulfilling prophecy.
When the Obama administration recently announced that it is, as John Biden said, planing an “unprecedented cyber covert action against Russia”, the first victim was not Putin, but precisely Julian Assange whose internet was cut off just a day after Biden’s self-contradictory proclamation.
No wonder Edward Snowden reacted immediately by saying that “nobody told Joen Biden what ‘covert operation’ means.
According to the U.S. Department of Defense’s Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms, a covert operation is “an operation that is so planned and executed as to conceal the identity of or permit plausible denial by the sponsor.”
It is no secret anymore that the Ecuadorian government has come under extreme pressure since Assange leaked the Democratic National Committee email database. We don’t know yet whether the US pressured Ecuador to shut down the internet, but it is clear that the present US government and the government to come is fighting a war with WikiLeaks which is all but “covert”. Is it really a coincidence that Julian Assange’s internet access was cut off shortly after publication of Clinton’s Goldman Sachs speeches?
If at the beginning we still had a “soft” version of postmodern McCarthyism, with Hillary calling everyone opposed to her campaign a Russian spy (not only Assange, but also Donald Trump and Jill Stein), then with Obama’s recent intervention it became more serious.
With Obama’s threat of a cyber-war, the “soft” McCarthyism didn’t only acquire geopolitical significance, but at the same time a new mask was revealed: Obama is obviously trying to cement the public debate and make the Russian threat “real”, or at least to use it as a weapon in order to help Clinton to get elected. Moreover, this new twist in something that has already become much more than only US elections (US elections are never only US elections!), shows not only how Obama is ready to strengthen Hillary’s campaign, but it also reveals that a cyber war is already in the making.
It is not a cyber war with Russia, but with WikiLeaks.
And it is not the first time.
What would Clausewitz say?
In 2010, when the Collateral Murder video was published, the Afghan and Iraq war logs were released, and we witnessed one of the most sinister attacks on freedom of speech in recent history. VISA, Mastercard, Diners, American Express and Paypal imposed a banking blockade on WikiLeaks, although WikiLeaks had not been charged with any crime at either state, federal or international level. So if the US government successfully convinced payment companies representing more than 97% of the global market to shut down an independent publisher, why wouldn’t they pressure Ecuador or any other state or company to cut off the internet?
The US is not only rhetorically trying to “get” Assange (it is worth to check out the Assassinate Assange video for evidence of the verbal masturbation of US officials), he poses a serious threat to the major elite factions in the US to remain in power. No wonder panic is rising in the US, which is now going even so far that a 16-year-old boy in Britain has been arrested on criminal charges related to the alleged hacking of email accounts used by CIA director John Brennan, which WikiLeaks published in October 2016.
What WikiLeaks obviously successfully challenged–and maybe one day (“history is written by the victors”, remember?) it will be learned in military strategy– is what the Prussian general and military theorist Carl von Clausewitz would call the “centre of gravity” (Schwerpunkt), which is the “central feature of the enemy’s power”.
Instead of speaking about the Russians, we should start speaking about the Schwerpunkt of the actual leaks, their real essence. Just take the following quotes by Hillary Clinton exposed by WikiLeaks, which reveal her true nature and the politics behind her campaign: “We are going to ring China with missile defence”, “I want to defend fracking” and climate change environmentalists “should get a life”, “you need both a public and a private position”, “my dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders”.
What WikiLeaks has shown is not only that Hillary is a hawkish war-monger, first it was Libya (over 1,700 of the 33,000 Clinton emails published by WikiLeaks reference Libya), then it was Syria (at a Goldman Sachs conference she explicitly stated she would like to intervene in Syria), tomorrow it will be another war.
It is now clear – and this is the real “centre of gravity” where we should focus our attention – that the future Clinton cabinet may already been filled with Wall Street people like Obama’s was. No wonder WikiLeaks revelations create utter panic not only in the Democratic Party itself but also the Obama administration.
One question remains, isn’t WikiLeaks, by leaking all al these dirty secrets, influencing the US elections? Yes, it certainly is, but the current criticism misses its point: isn’t the very point of organisations such as WikiLeaks to publish the material they have and to influence public opinion?
The question should finally be turned around: isn’t the US mainstream media the one influencing the US elections? And isn’t Obama, by announcing a cyber-war with Russia, influencing the elections?
WikiLeaks is not only influencing the US elections, but transforming the US elections – as they should have been from the very beginning – into a global debate with serious geopolitical consequences at stake. What WikiLeaks is doing is revealing this brutal fight for power, but, as the old saying goes, “when a wise man points at the Moon, the idiot looks at the finger”. Instead of looking at the finger pointing to Russia, we should take a look at the leaks themselves.
If democracy and transparency means anything today, we should say: let them leak!
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EMAILID 16024 re47 and cbaker agree to put the former Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm on the CTR paylist as an official CTR shill. This seems necessary because they want to start paying out money to her immediately. After a while they will move her to another "vehicle" (slush fund?), to draw salary from somewhere else. CTR is Correct The Record, a super PAC, most known for massive shill campaigns, using paid posters on social media like Reddit and Facebook, funded by millions of dollars.
I explored with Marc what the limitations would be on HFA's use of Governor Granholm if she were paid by Correct the Record. As a threshold matter we could not call her a spokesman for the campaign or schedule her directly. We would be able to refer groups or media to her if they are looking for a non-campaign, third part surrogate, the same way we might refer them to the DNC Chair or Stephanie Schriock. For example this weekend she spoke at the Ohio State Party dinner. If she were at Correct the Record we could at least make sure her speaking and media opportunities met our needs/requests. Finally, as a person paid by CTR she could not solicit donations for the campaign. She could be at CTR for a period and move to some other vehicle (New York - or Michigan- state party, DNC, HFA) at any point (i.e. there is no waiting period).
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/16024
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I used a Bernie lead because I am trying to sell the idea to Bernie and his people, which helps Hillary and her people. I also praised and pre-endorsed Mayor de Blasio for reelection in the Observer, which is NY based and not always friendly to Democrats. Feel free to share this with whomever you like.
Thanks Brent, we will keep that in mind. Here is an archive of the "article" you wrote http://archive.is/loWyB trying to "sell some ideas" to Bernie people.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/16329
The other is that the press as a whole doesn't like Clinton very much (and the feeling is mutual)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15387
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
John Podesta's real opinion on Senator Bernard Sanders
that** doofus Bernie**
This email also contains some thoughts of Democrat Edwards Tanden about Republicans. He seems like a truly sick individual, completely consumed by hatred in his heart. Tanden about all Rebuplicans:
If they don't cooperate then it is no longer hyperbole to say that they are truly enemies of the state, enemies of the world.
Edwards also said
I'm totally one hundred percent for Hillary because if any one of these bozos makes it to the White House, then we'll have a revolution on our hands.
Note that Edwards Tanden definitely includes Bernie in the "bozos", because he is directly replying here to a question about Bernie. Neera Tanden wasn't actually bothered by any of the above because she proudly forwarded the hate speech about Republicans and the insult to Bernie to John Podesta.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15464
This stuff ^^
It doesn't exist at the link
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
edit: If the email said "here is how we are supposed to do it but let's do it this way to get around the rules" you might have something. It doesn't say that at all. On the contrary...hats off to them for making sure they followed the rules.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/16231
Especially if it's some weird technical thing with the President's email setup that he doesn't see addresses.
https://theintercept.com/2016/10/18/hillary-superpac-coordination/
This story is from wikileaks itself, which is "reporting" that US media is about to release a fake story about Julian Assange's pedophilia and the $1 million. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Well, that's an interesting beginning to a defense.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/16535
From:ntanden@gmail.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com Date: 2015-08-11 21:38 Subject: Re: You know what average Americans need?
I fucking hate that guy. Like I'd like to kick the shit out of him on twitter...but I know that is dumb.
If you want to be fair about what you're linking to, separate your words from the words of the email and link directly to your source for the supposition/commentary. You're making it read like everything is within the emails you link to but from what I've been able to discern, your words are being mixed in with the commentary and the link shows neither. Otherwise, just post the Wiki link and tell everyone to read it for themselves and be done with it to spare us. But the Lourde does work in mysterious ways.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
They react out of cynicism: when their masks are revealed, instead of running around naked, they usually point the finger at the mask they wear. These days the whole world could witness a postmodern version of the infamous quote “Let them eat cake”, attributed to Marie-Antoinette, queen of France during the French Revolution.
As a reaction to WikiLeaks publishing his emails, John Podesta, the man behind Hillary Clinton’s campaign, posted a photo of a dinner preparation, saying “I bet the lobster risotto is better than the food at the Ecuadorian Embassy”.
A similar version of vulgar cynicism emerged earlier this month when Hillary Clinton reacted to the claim that she reportedly wanted to “drone” WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange (“Can’t we just drone this guy?”) when she was the US Secretary of State. Instead of denying her comments, Clinton said that she doesn’t recall any such joke, “It would have been a joke if it had been said, but I don’t recall that”.
One doesn’t have to read between the lines to understand that if Hillary Clinton had said that, she would have considered it a joke. But when emperors joke, it usually has dire consequences for those who are the objects of their “humor.”
Cyber-war Not with Russia…but WikiLeaks
During the last few months I have visited Julian Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London several times and each time I came out of the Embassy, where he is spending his fifth year in political asylum under legitimate fear he might be extradited to the US, my thought was the following one: although he lives, without his family, in a postmodern version of solitary confinement (even prisoners are allowed to walk for up to one hour a day), although he has no access to fresh air or sunlight for more than 2000 days, although the UK government recently denied him safe passage to a hospital for an MRI scan, if his access to the internet would be cut off this would be the most severe attack on his physical and mental freedom.
The last time I saw him, which was only two weeks ago, he expressed the fear that, because he had already published leaks concerning US elections and with more to come, the US might find various ways to silence him, including pressuring Ecuador or even shutting down the internet.
What seemed a distant possibility only two weeks ago, soon became a self-fulfilling prophecy.
When the Obama administration recently announced that it is, as John Biden said, planing an “unprecedented cyber covert action against Russia”, the first victim was not Putin, but precisely Julian Assange whose internet was cut off just a day after Biden’s self-contradictory proclamation.
No wonder Edward Snowden reacted immediately by saying that “nobody told Joen Biden what ‘covert operation’ means.
According to the U.S. Department of Defense’s Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms, a covert operation is “an operation that is so planned and executed as to conceal the identity of or permit plausible denial by the sponsor.”
It is no secret anymore that the Ecuadorian government has come under extreme pressure since Assange leaked the Democratic National Committee email database. We don’t know yet whether the US pressured Ecuador to shut down the internet, but it is clear that the present US government and the government to come is fighting a war with WikiLeaks which is all but “covert”. Is it really a coincidence that Julian Assange’s internet access was cut off shortly after publication of Clinton’s Goldman Sachs speeches?
If at the beginning we still had a “soft” version of postmodern McCarthyism, with Hillary calling everyone opposed to her campaign a Russian spy (not only Assange, but also Donald Trump and Jill Stein), then with Obama’s recent intervention it became more serious.
With Obama’s threat of a cyber-war, the “soft” McCarthyism didn’t only acquire geopolitical significance, but at the same time a new mask was revealed: Obama is obviously trying to cement the public debate and make the Russian threat “real”, or at least to use it as a weapon in order to help Clinton to get elected. Moreover, this new twist in something that has already become much more than only US elections (US elections are never only US elections!), shows not only how Obama is ready to strengthen Hillary’s campaign, but it also reveals that a cyber war is already in the making.
It is not a cyber war with Russia, but with WikiLeaks.
And it is not the first time.
What would Clausewitz say?
In 2010, when the Collateral Murder video was published, the Afghan and Iraq war logs were released, and we witnessed one of the most sinister attacks on freedom of speech in recent history. VISA, Mastercard, Diners, American Express and Paypal imposed a banking blockade on WikiLeaks, although WikiLeaks had not been charged with any crime at either state, federal or international level. So if the US government successfully convinced payment companies representing more than 97% of the global market to shut down an independent publisher, why wouldn’t they pressure Ecuador or any other state or company to cut off the internet?
The US is not only rhetorically trying to “get” Assange (it is worth to check out the Assassinate Assange video for evidence of the verbal masturbation of US officials), he poses a serious threat to the major elite factions in the US to remain in power. No wonder panic is rising in the US, which is now going even so far that a 16-year-old boy in Britain has been arrested on criminal charges related to the alleged hacking of email accounts used by CIA director John Brennan, which WikiLeaks published in October 2016.
What WikiLeaks obviously successfully challenged–and maybe one day (“history is written by the victors”, remember?) it will be learned in military strategy– is what the Prussian general and military theorist Carl von Clausewitz would call the “centre of gravity” (Schwerpunkt), which is the “central feature of the enemy’s power”.
Instead of speaking about the Russians, we should start speaking about the Schwerpunkt of the actual leaks, their real essence. Just take the following quotes by Hillary Clinton exposed by WikiLeaks, which reveal her true nature and the politics behind her campaign: “We are going to ring China with missile defence”, “I want to defend fracking” and climate change environmentalists “should get a life”, “you need both a public and a private position”, “my dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders”.
What WikiLeaks has shown is not only that Hillary is a hawkish war-monger, first it was Libya (over 1,700 of the 33,000 Clinton emails published by WikiLeaks reference Libya), then it was Syria (at a Goldman Sachs conference she explicitly stated she would like to intervene in Syria), tomorrow it will be another war.
It is now clear – and this is the real “centre of gravity” where we should focus our attention – that the future Clinton cabinet may already been filled with Wall Street people like Obama’s was. No wonder WikiLeaks revelations create utter panic not only in the Democratic Party itself but also the Obama administration.
One question remains, isn’t WikiLeaks, by leaking all al these dirty secrets, influencing the US elections? Yes, it certainly is, but the current criticism misses its point: isn’t the very point of organisations such as WikiLeaks to publish the material they have and to influence public opinion?
The question should finally be turned around: isn’t the US mainstream media the one influencing the US elections? And isn’t Obama, by announcing a cyber-war with Russia, influencing the elections?
WikiLeaks is not only influencing the US elections, but transforming the US elections – as they should have been from the very beginning – into a global debate with serious geopolitical consequences at stake. What WikiLeaks is doing is revealing this brutal fight for power, but, as the old saying goes, “when a wise man points at the Moon, the idiot looks at the finger”. Instead of looking at the finger pointing to Russia, we should take a look at the leaks themselves.
If democracy and transparency means anything today, we should say: let them leak!