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  • F Me In The Brain
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  • mickeyrat
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    dignin said:
    Bentleyspop said:

    Mike Pence leaves 49ers-Colts game over protesting during national anthem


    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20955550/mike-pence-leaves-san-francisco-49ers-indianapolis-colts-game-protesting-national-anthem
    Mike "no spine" Pence.

    What a snowflake.

    "The pool reporter with the vice president had been told to stay outside the stadium and that Pence may leave the game early."

    I'd be curious to know , at what point he left? was it after the anthem or during when he saw the constutionally protected protest, you know , the Constitution that he swore an oath to preserve and protect as VP?


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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,394
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    Bentleyspop said:

    Mike Pence leaves 49ers-Colts game over protesting during national anthem


    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20955550/mike-pence-leaves-san-francisco-49ers-indianapolis-colts-game-protesting-national-anthem
    Mike "no spine" Pence.

    What a snowflake.

    "The pool reporter with the vice president had been told to stay outside the stadium and that Pence may leave the game early."

    I'd be curious to know , at what point he left? was it after the anthem or during when he saw the constutionally protected protest, you know , the Constitution that he swore an oath to preserve and protect as VP?


    He left  after anthem but before kickoff
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    He went to the game with a predetermined notion of leaving if any players knelt, knowing full damn well they were going to. This is nothing but a political stunt. Meanwhile, our tax dollars are being spent - scratch that - wasted on this bullshit because he has Secret Service agents and transportation provided for him via our pockets.
    By the way, Nazis marched again yesterday in Virginia, but damn those kneeling players protesting social and racial injustices.
    Fuck Mike Pence. Dumb fucker doesn’t even know better than to use a 3 year old photo when he tweets.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    HesCalledDyer said:
    He went to the game with a predetermined notion of leaving if any players knelt, knowing full damn well they were going to. This is nothing but a political stunt. 
    Kneeling has become a political stunt now full on.  Players are now coming out in droves w/ a predetermined notion to kneel mostly to oppose Trump.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    He went to the game with a predetermined notion of leaving if any players knelt, knowing full damn well they were going to. This is nothing but a political stunt. 
    Kneeling has become a political stunt now full on.  Players are now coming out in droves w/ a predetermined notion to kneel mostly to oppose Trump.
    Nice try. As I said, it’s a protest against social and racial injustices, but you conveniently deleted that part.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    He went to the game with a predetermined notion of leaving if any players knelt, knowing full damn well they were going to. This is nothing but a political stunt. 
    Kneeling has become a political stunt now full on.  Players are now coming out in droves w/ a predetermined notion to kneel mostly to oppose Trump.
    Nice try. As I said, it’s a protest against social and racial injustices, but you conveniently deleted that part.

    Do you think the recent 'spike' in kneel down participation is a response to social and racial injustices? 
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited October 2017
    ^^^
    I didn't delete anything.  I just amplified how wrong your statement was about why all these players are suddenly kneeling.  It's anti-Trump now, no longer is it for protesting social and racial injustices.  I would challenge any reporter to ask these players who they voted for on air.


  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I didn't delete anything.  I just amplified how wrong your statement was about why all these players are suddenly kneeling.  It's anti-Trump now, no longer is it for protesting social and racial injustices.  I would challenge any reporter to ask these players who they voted for on air.


    You’re misunderstanding. The fact that the kind of person who protests social and racial injustices is unlikely to have voted for Trump does not mean that their protest is against Trump, rather than social and racial injustices.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    He went to the game with a predetermined notion of leaving if any players knelt, knowing full damn well they were going to. This is nothing but a political stunt. 
    Kneeling has become a political stunt now full on.  Players are now coming out in droves w/ a predetermined notion to kneel mostly to oppose Trump.
    Nice try. As I said, it’s a protest against social and racial injustices, but you conveniently deleted that part.

    Do you think the recent 'spike' in kneel down participation is a response to social and racial injustices? 
    That’s how effective protests work.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I didn't delete anything.  I just amplified how wrong your statement was about why all these players are suddenly kneeling.  It's anti-Trump now, no longer is it for protesting social and racial injustices.  I would challenge any reporter to ask these players who they voted for on air.


    How is my statement wrong?
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Meanwhile, this stunt cost taxpayers an estimated $500k - $1M dollars. All so Trump and Pence can make their idiot followers think it’s all about hating the President, the military, the flag, the anthem, & the country. The reality is they are people in power and they are trying to suppress the voices of black athletes. So yeah, it’s fucking about racial and social injustices.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited October 2017

    HesCalledDyer said:
    Meanwhile, this stunt cost taxpayers an estimated $500k - $1M dollars. All so Trump and Pence can make their idiot followers think it’s all about hating the President, the military, the flag, the anthem, & the country. The reality is they are people in power and they are trying to suppress the voices of black athletes. So yeah, it’s fucking about racial and social injustices.
    Make up your mind.  They're suppressing voices of black athletes now? cmon.



  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited October 2017
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    He went to the game with a predetermined notion of leaving if any players knelt, knowing full damn well they were going to. This is nothing but a political stunt. 
    Kneeling has become a political stunt now full on.  Players are now coming out in droves w/ a predetermined notion to kneel mostly to oppose Trump.
    Nice try. As I said, it’s a protest against social and racial injustices, but you conveniently deleted that part.

    Do you think the recent 'spike' in kneel down participation is a response to social and racial injustices? 
    That’s how effective protests work.

    The dramatic 'spike' in participation levels most certainly are directed at Trump and concerning themselves more with individual freedoms versus police brutality.

    Indirectly, Kap's protest and call to awareness has gained some traction given the league wide response to Trump and if this is what you mean... I'd be in agreement.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    benjs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I didn't delete anything.  I just amplified how wrong your statement was about why all these players are suddenly kneeling.  It's anti-Trump now, no longer is it for protesting social and racial injustices.  I would challenge any reporter to ask these players who they voted for on air.


    You’re misunderstanding. The fact that the kind of person who protests social and racial injustices is unlikely to have voted for Trump does not mean that their protest is against Trump, rather than social and racial injustices.

    I still would challenge any reporter to ask these kneelers who they voted for on air and to add, what they think of President Trump.  I am not misunderstanding anything - the majority of these kneelings have become focused on Trump now under the guise of social and racial injustices. It's safe to kneel now.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    edited October 2017
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    benjs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I didn't delete anything.  I just amplified how wrong your statement was about why all these players are suddenly kneeling.  It's anti-Trump now, no longer is it for protesting social and racial injustices.  I would challenge any reporter to ask these players who they voted for on air.


    You’re misunderstanding. The fact that the kind of person who protests social and racial injustices is unlikely to have voted for Trump does not mean that their protest is against Trump, rather than social and racial injustices.

    I still would challenge any reporter to ask these kneelers who they voted for on air and to add, what they think of President Trump.  I am not misunderstanding anything - the majority of these kneelings have become focused on Trump now under the guise of social and racial injustices. It's safe to kneel now.
    You said something similar on the Trump thread.  I'm sure some see the protests as being Trump related but most?  I doubt it.  Someone is sure to take a poll.

    This evening, we watched the classic film, In the Heat of the Night (iconic film!)  and it got me to thinking about race issues.  That film was made 50 years ago.  It's release was postponed due to the assassination of Martin Luther King.  It was a ground breaking film that was both a detective thriller and a social commentary on race relations.  Watching that film today does illustrate that here in the U.S. some good strides have been made in race issues.  That's great.  But then I got to thinking, shit, that was 50 years ago.  A HALF CENTURY AGO (oh, sorry for yelling!)  But really, a half a fucking century since that film was made.  Attitudes and prejudices were changing rapidly, things were getting better!  But 50 FUCKING YEARS AGO (oops, yelling again- sorry!) and we still have race issues in this country?  What the ever lovin' fuck?

    Edit:  Here's a prime example (sorry if I told this already).  I was in a thrift store recently and this guy was yacking on his cell phone about how he had just been up to Apple Hill (an annual two month long commercial event where people come up from other p[arts of the state or even from out of state  to visit and shop the craft booths, eat apple pie, enjoy the scenery etc., up here in the Sierra Foothills. 

    Anyway, this guy is talking loud enough for anyone in the store to hear him and he say, "Yeah, blah, blah, blah, oh, and there were even two BLACK PEOPLE UP THERE!" 

    I couldn't believe it. I thought, where the fuck do you think this is?  Mars?  So I said equally loudly, "BLACK PEOPLE? OH MY GOD! NOT BLACK PEOPLE!  AHHHH!  I GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE!" 

    No, I'm not normally that crazy acting but seriously, this clown just blew me away.  People say shit like that?  Again, what the ever lovin' fuck?
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Somebody explain how this kneeling stuff isn't about social and racial injustices anymore.
    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/news/jerry-jones-cowboys-will-not-play-if-they-disrespect-flag/ar-AAt8NQn?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    Somebody explain how this kneeling stuff isn't about social and racial injustices anymore.
    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/news/jerry-jones-cowboys-will-not-play-if-they-disrespect-flag/ar-AAt8NQn?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp
    You just posted an article exclusively about the Cowboys owner saying he won’t tolerate disrespecting the flag - nothing to do with your preface about the goal of the kneeling. 

    Please read my previous response to you very carefully. A reporter asking who a kneeling citizen voted for accomplished exactly zero, and neither confirms nor denies the intent of their protests. It would be better to ask why the players are kneeling (which has been done), and the answer is always the same: to protest social and racial injustices.

    I think you’ve been listening to trump for too long, because straightforward and logical answers don’t make sense to you; instead you desire a meandering and nonsensical ambiguous answer which you can draw conclusions from in the most convenient way to yourself.

    Or, you know, you just came here to annoy by exclusively posting nonsensically (whether it’s your own nonsense or POTUS’).
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    It's pretty clear that the Cowboys can't kneel now or it will be considered disrespecting the flag and they will not be allowed to play. Yet some people here still think the keeling is only about social and racial injustices.  It's straightforward and logical thinking to see it this way.  The kneeling has become anti-Trump. Admit it.


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