its always likew that in added shows,,same as amsterdam 2
Exactly right Dimi. This is not a new practice. No one should be surprised, PJ has been doing this for years. In fact Toronto 2 2011 was the same way.
Are you sure about that? I remember I had a pair of tenclub tickets for one night and my ticket buddy for the other one.
He is wrong. In 2011 both shows were part of the original announcement and there were 10C tickets available for both nights. I think this was the tour where you had to buy Ten Club tickets through Ticketmaster and it was a bit of a mess.
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it sucks being shut out of a show when the band is so close to home. Keep looking in lost dogs right up to show time as there is always tickets for sale.
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ok, let's wrap this thread up. My only point was that I'm paying a membership fee so I do feel "entitled" to a little more ticket access that the average fan. You should to.
You've been a fan long enough to know Pearl Jam has never been about entitlement.
Don't do that. I know full well what this band is about. It's the business side of this band that has me pissed. It doesn't matter what points are made here, the so called "die hards" will defend every action till their death! The whole argument was wasted on this forum. This thread has really opened my eyes to the new generation of Pearl Jam fans, that's for sure!!!
Don't do that. I know full well what this band is about. It's the business side of this band that has me pissed. It doesn't matter what points are made here, the so called "die hards" will defend every action till their death! The whole argument was wasted on this forum. This thread has really opened my eyes to the new generation of Pearl Jam fans, that's for sure!!!
ok, let's wrap this thread up. My only point was that I'm paying a membership fee so I do feel "entitled" to a little more ticket access that the average fan. You should to.
You've been a fan long enough to know Pearl Jam has never been about entitlement.
Don't do that. I know full well what this band is about. It's the business side of this band that has me pissed. It doesn't matter what points are made here, the so called "die hards" will defend every action till their death! The whole argument was wasted on this forum. This thread has really opened my eyes to the new generation of Pearl Jam fans, that's for sure!!!
Listen, I feel bad for you, and I agree that we should have more access to tickets than the general public. However, your message gets lost when all you have done on this forum is complain. 31 posts, and most are negative. I am sorry that you had a lousy experience with this. I hope you get to have some fun when PJ comes to town.
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ok, let's wrap this thread up. My only point was that I'm paying a membership fee so I do feel "entitled" to a little more ticket access that the average fan. You should to.
You've been a fan long enough to know Pearl Jam has never been about entitlement.
Don't do that. I know full well what this band is about. It's the business side of this band that has me pissed. It doesn't matter what points are made here, the so called "die hards" will defend every action till their death! The whole argument was wasted on this forum. This thread has really opened my eyes to the new generation of Pearl Jam fans, that's for sure!!!
I'm 48 and it's not often I get called the new generation. Thank you
I wonder how 10c/PJ can 'win'? Imagine if you got what you wanted and T2 was the same as T1 and there was a lottery as is the norm and people got shut out. Maybe for the 2nd time because that is the nature of a lottery...it's a lottery.
Or there was an email and someone still got shut out. Then what?
I can hear you're upset but I truly don't see what 10c can do. IF their allocation was big enough to accommodate everyone don't you think they'd be happier? I imagine they've received a bundle of aggrieved emails, they see these posts.
I understand having a ticket in hand feels so much better. But I truly can't see a solution without fan club ticket allocations being increased and to my knowledge this is not in the hands of the band.
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OP Did you put in for any shows during the lottery? If so, what were the results? I ask because your post reads like you only found out they were touring after the second show was announced and couldn't get tix.
Disenchanted with 10c and will not be renewing my membership. Lottery does not appear fair to me. Some members are getting tickets to multiple shows and others get nothing. Seems obvious that they are picking member numbers and then filling their wish lists (to the extent then available). Shouldn't the goal be a system that maximizes the chances of all 10c members getting to see the band at least once on each tour?
Toronto area 10c members really got fkd this time. With only one Toronto show in the lottery, Toronto was by far the lowest odds (NYC and Philly were actually significantly higher as members had two cracks for each city). Then they add a second show with no notice to fanclub members? I got two e-mails from the band yesterday when TM tickets went on sale with no mention of a second Toronto show being added. Stood in line at TM yesterday and when got to window (around 12:05) no tickets for Tor1 and they told me there was no Tor2 show. Also no mention of Tor2 on the TM app as I was trying to get tickets for Tor1.
What makes the PJ shows great for me is the people up front who are real fans and know the music and create a great excitement and energy. IMO, I think that Tor2 will suck (like most other shows here) with non fans or casual fans having most of the GA that they bought off stubhub for exorbitant prices.
What I don't understand is that NY and Philly already had this in place. They did the 10C presale for both shows in those cities. Toronto was obviously booked for both nights. They have never had an issue selling out the ACC, the Amphitheatre or any other venue around here. I beleive PJ have been paid before they even sold a ticket by the venue as the appearance fee. This had to be a live nation/MLSE stipulation that 1 of these shows didn't get allocated to the 10C.and some of their Personal Seat Licence Holders got their seats for 1 show. Otherwise why wouldn't they just do the Philly/MSG approach and give the shot to the fans who didn't win on show 1.
Disenchanted with 10c and will not be renewing my membership. Lottery does not appear fair to me. Some members are getting tickets to multiple shows and others get nothing. Seems obvious that they are picking member numbers and then filling their wish lists (to the extent then available). Shouldn't the goal be a system that maximizes the chances of all 10c members getting to see the band at least once on each tour?
Toronto area 10c members really got fkd this time. With only one Toronto show in the lottery, Toronto was by far the lowest odds (NYC and Philly were actually significantly higher as members had two cracks for each city). Then they add a second show with no notice to fanclub members? I got two e-mails from the band yesterday when TM tickets went on sale with no mention of a second Toronto show being added. Stood in line at TM yesterday and when got to window (around 12:05) no tickets for Tor1 and they told me there was no Tor2 show. Also no mention of Tor2 on the TM app as I was trying to get tickets for Tor1.
What makes the PJ shows great for me is the people up front who are real fans and know the music and create a great excitement and energy. IMO, I think that Tor2 will suck (like most other shows here) with non fans or casual fans having most of the GA that they bought off stubhub for exorbitant prices.
NYC and Philly members did not have two realistic cracks at each city.
What I don't understand is that NY and Philly already had this in place. They did the 10C presale for both shows in those cities. Toronto was obviously booked for both nights. They have never had an issue selling out the ACC, the Amphitheatre or any other venue around here. I beleive PJ have been paid before they even sold a ticket by the venue as the appearance fee. This had to be a live nation/MLSE stipulation that 1 of these shows didn't get allocated to the 10C.and some of their Personal Seat Licence Holders got their seats for 1 show. Otherwise why wouldn't they just do the Philly/MSG approach and give the shot to the fans who didn't win on show 1.
the lower bowl has personal seat licenses so they probably made them have to make the second show available to them. i think pearljam has half of the lower bowl closest to the stage reserved for the fanclub. i dont know if the other venues have psls so maybe thats why they could do both shows for the club
Disenchanted with 10c and will not be renewing my membership. Lottery does not appear fair to me. Some members are getting tickets to multiple shows and others get nothing. Seems obvious that they are picking member numbers and then filling their wish lists (to the extent then available). Shouldn't the goal be a system that maximizes the chances of all 10c members getting to see the band at least once on each tour?
Toronto area 10c members really got fkd this time. With only one Toronto show in the lottery, Toronto was by far the lowest odds (NYC and Philly were actually significantly higher as members had two cracks for each city). Then they add a second show with no notice to fanclub members? I got two e-mails from the band yesterday when TM tickets went on sale with no mention of a second Toronto show being added. Stood in line at TM yesterday and when got to window (around 12:05) no tickets for Tor1 and they told me there was no Tor2 show. Also no mention of Tor2 on the TM app as I was trying to get tickets for Tor1.
What makes the PJ shows great for me is the people up front who are real fans and know the music and create a great excitement and energy. IMO, I think that Tor2 will suck (like most other shows here) with non fans or casual fans having most of the GA that they bought off stubhub for exorbitant prices.
Lotteries, by definition, are about chance. Conjure up whatever conspiracy you like, but the reality is that no matter what behind the scenes activity happens with that lottery, some people are going to win and some are going to lose. That's how it works, when you dial it down to our reality as 10C members. If you don't understand the risk associated with lotteries, or accept that there is a high probability you won't like the outcome, you shouldn't enter them. I can understand being pissed off about an undesired outcome (I get pissed off, too, when I don't win Super 7, and I got pissed off when I lost out on my 10C lottery choices) but that's part of the risk you take. 10C offers a chance at tickets, no more, no less.
Secondly, nobody became a die-hard fan overnight. It takes one show to convert a non fan into a casual fan, and one show to turn a casual fan into a die-hard fan. The second show will be phenomenal - it sold out in minutes and the experience is what you make it. I will be there, with non-10C seats, and will love every second of it, along with those who got 10C seats, exorbitant StubHub seats, scalped seats, or comped seats.
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Disenchanted with 10c and will not be renewing my membership. Lottery does not appear fair to me. Some members are getting tickets to multiple shows and others get nothing. Seems obvious that they are picking member numbers and then filling their wish lists (to the extent then available). Shouldn't the goal be a system that maximizes the chances of all 10c members getting to see the band at least once on each tour?
Toronto area 10c members really got fkd this time. With only one Toronto show in the lottery, Toronto was by far the lowest odds (NYC and Philly were actually significantly higher as members had two cracks for each city). Then they add a second show with no notice to fanclub members? I got two e-mails from the band yesterday when TM tickets went on sale with no mention of a second Toronto show being added. Stood in line at TM yesterday and when got to window (around 12:05) no tickets for Tor1 and they told me there was no Tor2 show. Also no mention of Tor2 on the TM app as I was trying to get tickets for Tor1.
What makes the PJ shows great for me is the people up front who are real fans and know the music and create a great excitement and energy. IMO, I think that Tor2 will suck (like most other shows here) with non fans or casual fans having most of the GA that they bought off stubhub for exorbitant prices.
NYC and Philly members did not have two realistic cracks at each city.
Sure they did. Just so happens that every other member on earth had the same realistic cracks at those (and all other) cities. Nothin' wrong with that.
While I do wish my bothers to the North had SOME priority to Tor2 tix and do feel some empathy for them, posts that criticize those that DID get tickets (by whatever means/brokers and bots excluded) as "lesser fans than I," is not a good way to go here. Knowing the kind of band Pearl Jam is, I would assume that those who snagged tickets have a good reason they want to be at that (or any other0 show, and pretty damn good reasons too. To imply that my reasons for wanting to attend are more important than other people's reasons seems kind of short-sighted to me.
If there is a problem (and there is) with brokers and bots, then let's try and do something about that (uphill battle, I'm afraid, but ..) ; but turning on a fellow fan in anger because he got something that I did not, ... not cool.
BTW, one might argue that The Tor2 show is the most fair of ways of obtaining a ticket. No special treatment for anyone -- no backroom bullshit, just put 'em up and let it roll. See what's what when the dust settles. Of course brokers and bots make that a flawed argument, but ...
amsterdam 2- 2012.... show was added the day amsterdam 1 went on public sale after amsterdam 2 was sold out 10c ask 10c members who scored tix at public sale fort amsterdam 2 to fill a form sent and email and they would get a wristband for early entrance as amsterdam 1 and we get it at the box office amstersam 2 -2014 show was added the day amsterdam 1 went on public sale nothing happen like 2012..10c didnt have wristbands,early entrance,no privelege..like toronto 2 -2016 now thats why they had GA to public sale at toronto 2.
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Disenchanted with 10c and will not be renewing my membership. Lottery does not appear fair to me. Some members are getting tickets to multiple shows and others get nothing. Seems obvious that they are picking member numbers and then filling their wish lists (to the extent then available). Shouldn't the goal be a system that maximizes the chances of all 10c members getting to see the band at least once on each tour?
Toronto area 10c members really got fkd this time. With only one Toronto show in the lottery, Toronto was by far the lowest odds (NYC and Philly were actually significantly higher as members had two cracks for each city). Then they add a second show with no notice to fanclub members? I got two e-mails from the band yesterday when TM tickets went on sale with no mention of a second Toronto show being added. Stood in line at TM yesterday and when got to window (around 12:05) no tickets for Tor1 and they told me there was no Tor2 show. Also no mention of Tor2 on the TM app as I was trying to get tickets for Tor1.
What makes the PJ shows great for me is the people up front who are real fans and know the music and create a great excitement and energy. IMO, I think that Tor2 will suck (like most other shows here) with non fans or casual fans having most of the GA that they bought off stubhub for exorbitant prices.
HA. I'll be in the pit on night 2. It will be show 35 for me. Not bad for a "casual fan" I guess. I'll let you know whether it sucked or not.
Also can people please stop saying what the people of Toronto would've wanted/liked You aren't speaking for anyone except yourself. Not everyone who is going to the concert is from Toronto.
Yeah like what percentage of a given crowd is actually from that city? 40% tops?
Yep, a quick look at the parking lots will bear this out. The hotels near the venues are packed with concert goers from out of town.
The only other band I ever saw with that many people who travel was the Grateful Dead. Same thing with them, parking lots filled with plates from all over. Hotels all booked with heads.
^^^ Precisely. This is a great forum to get heads up on places to stay near the venue from people that have been there for a concert before. It is amazing when a hotel is overwhelmed by PJ fans on concert day. The front desk usually is astounded. Whenever you check in the front desk staff say something to the effect of "Wow, you got a great rate tonight". And inside yourself you are saying "I know, I booked it 4mos ago"!, Look at the trends on expedia, etc the website prices are rising daily as concert time comes near. Folks, PJ has a massive following, less than 40% is a local crowd (think Saskatoon). Book your hotel now!
the local hotels will be full of out of towners because of business reasons, other shows, vacations, etc..... I really do think the percentage of out-of-towners is being very over estimated.
the local hotels will be full of out of towners because of business reasons, other shows, vacations, etc..... I really do think the percentage of out-of-towners is being very over estimated.
I don't think it's being overestimated but in a city the size of Toronto it has virtually no impact on hotels etc. There are arena and/or stadium events most night of the week. People who haven't been here in a few years will be amazed at the amount of growth that has occured.
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Does anyone know what a lottery actually is? It's a random assignment of tickets. That means some people get none, some people get one show, and some people won a handful. The purpose of the lottery was never meant to be that everyone wins an equal amount. By the nature of a lottery there will be winners and losers. I really think people just assumed they were going to win and don't actually understand how a random assignment of tickets works.
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I think everyone is looking too deep into this. This 2nd show was added just like any other 2nd show i have ever seen for any other band. Its standard procedure. My guess is, the contract pj signed with tm had the stipulation that tm would sell all the tix for the 2nd show. In exchange, pj gets thousands of tickets to allocate for its fan club for all the other shows.
I was lucky enough to get tickets for both shows. However, I don't think 10c sending an email and announcing the concert on the website within seconds of the actual tickets going on sale count as an announcement. Sadly, I think that no matter how tickets are sold, lottery or not, a lot of tickets are going to the wrong people. Toronto is not a fan friendly city. It's all money and status, fans are getting priced out of everything.
first time in years i had a crack at the best seats in the house for toronto 2. level playing field. as i have stated before if you paid attention to all the credible information out here as some of us did you would have been on top of it as well. they can't spoon feed everyone. buying tickets was like a kid in the candy store. i am going to enjoy every moment . looking at the tickets makes me smile. i don't know when i will ever have that kind of opportunity again. too much negativity. use your energy toi figure out ways of getting tickets . thats what i do when i am shut out or a band rolls over a second show without my permission.
If you're determined enough, you'll get tickets. Bottom line. I've gone to more high demand shows without tickets than with and I've always ended up scoring. In 2013 I went to Philly and MSG with only one pair of tix for Philly N2 and ended up with good seats to all 4 shows. It will happen if you want it enough, but not gonna fall in your lap, you gotta work for it. Whiners need to spend less time bitching and more time looking for tickets. I just bought a pair of Ottawa seats today for the sole purpose of trading for toronto. If I can't find a trade, they'll get sold to a 10clubber in need. It's karma, and it works really well.
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Anyone else find this to be complete horseshit!?! How can this band, the band that has historically stood up for the true fans, add a second show with no notice or chance for 10c tickets!?! Seems like there were fuck all 10c tix to be had for the first show to boot! Every name that never got drawn for the first show should have automatically been up for draw on the second date! P.S. Anyone that says "you're not entitled to 10c tickets as we all know it's the luck of the draw" is insane IMO! 10c members pay annual fees for the privilege of having first grabs at tickets and some 45 record and a "deep" magazine. If I'm not getting tickets this 10c is completely useless to me, just a waste of money! I personally know a dozen 10c members in my area and not a single one got tickets through the draw!!! How is that even possible when all of us got tickets the last time PJ was in Toronto? My guess is a greatly reduced # of 10c tickets available. (Anyone with facts please feel free to enlighten me with the numbers of how the tickets were divide out for sale). When I heard about this tour I was as excited as I have been about anything in the past few years, now I'm left feeling disappointed and pissed off! So long 10c, when you were run for the true fans you were awesome!
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I wonder how 10c/PJ can 'win'? Imagine if you got what you wanted and T2 was the same as T1 and there was a lottery as is the norm and people got shut out. Maybe for the 2nd time because that is the nature of a lottery...it's a lottery.
Or there was an email and someone still got shut out. Then what?
I can hear you're upset but I truly don't see what 10c can do. IF their allocation was big enough to accommodate everyone don't you think they'd be happier? I imagine they've received a bundle of aggrieved emails, they see these posts.
I understand having a ticket in hand feels so much better. But I truly can't see a solution without fan club ticket allocations being increased and to my knowledge this is not in the hands of the band.
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Did you put in for any shows during the lottery?
If so, what were the results?
I ask because your post reads like you only found out they were touring after the second show was announced and couldn't get tix.
Toronto area 10c members really got fkd this time. With only one Toronto show in the lottery, Toronto was by far the lowest odds (NYC and Philly were actually significantly higher as members had two cracks for each city). Then they add a second show with no notice to fanclub members? I got two e-mails from the band yesterday when TM tickets went on sale with no mention of a second Toronto show being added. Stood in line at TM yesterday and when got to window (around 12:05) no tickets for Tor1 and they told me there was no Tor2 show. Also no mention of Tor2 on the TM app as I was trying to get tickets for Tor1.
What makes the PJ shows great for me is the people up front who are real fans and know the music and create a great excitement and energy. IMO, I think that Tor2 will suck (like most other shows here) with non fans or casual fans having most of the GA that they bought off stubhub for exorbitant prices.
Secondly, nobody became a die-hard fan overnight. It takes one show to convert a non fan into a casual fan, and one show to turn a casual fan into a die-hard fan. The second show will be phenomenal - it sold out in minutes and the experience is what you make it. I will be there, with non-10C seats, and will love every second of it, along with those who got 10C seats, exorbitant StubHub seats, scalped seats, or comped seats.
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While I do wish my bothers to the North had SOME priority to Tor2 tix and do feel some empathy for them, posts that criticize those that DID get tickets (by whatever means/brokers and bots excluded) as "lesser fans than I," is not a good way to go here. Knowing the kind of band Pearl Jam is, I would assume that those who snagged tickets have a good reason they want to be at that (or any other0 show, and pretty damn good reasons too. To imply that my reasons for wanting to attend are more important than other people's reasons seems kind of short-sighted to me.
If there is a problem (and there is) with brokers and bots, then let's try and do something about that (uphill battle, I'm afraid, but ..) ; but turning on a fellow fan in anger because he got something that I did not, ... not cool.
BTW, one might argue that The Tor2 show is the most fair of ways of obtaining a ticket. No special treatment for anyone -- no backroom bullshit, just put 'em up and let it roll. See what's what when the dust settles. Of course brokers and bots make that a flawed argument, but ...
show was added the day amsterdam 1 went on public sale
after amsterdam 2 was sold out 10c ask 10c members who scored tix at public sale fort amsterdam 2 to fill a form sent and email and they would get a wristband for early entrance as amsterdam 1
and we get it at the box office
amstersam 2 -2014
show was added the day amsterdam 1 went on public sale
nothing happen like 2012..10c didnt have wristbands,early entrance,no privelege..like toronto 2 -2016 now
thats why they had GA to public sale at toronto 2.
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The only other band I ever saw with that many people who travel was the Grateful Dead. Same thing with them, parking lots filled with plates from all over. Hotels all booked with heads.
Precisely.
This is a great forum to get heads up on places to stay near the venue from people that have been there for a concert before.
It is amazing when a hotel is overwhelmed by PJ fans on concert day. The front desk usually is astounded.
Whenever you check in the front desk staff say something to the effect of "Wow, you got a great rate tonight".
And inside yourself you are saying "I know, I booked it 4mos ago"!,
Look at the trends on expedia, etc the website prices are rising daily as concert time comes near.
Folks, PJ has a massive following, less than 40% is a local crowd (think Saskatoon).
Book your hotel now!
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