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mrussel1 said:
This is just a riot seeing you defend and rely on the super delegates. Two months ago, you and the rest of his crazies were bashing the SD's. Now they're all you got left. It's like the Twilight Zone.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25Keep reaching.
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You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hillary-clinton-clinches-democratic-nomination-according-to-ap/
pretty simple really....But Sanders’s statement — and the AP’s call — distract from the larger point. Clinton will be the Democratic nominee because substantially more Democrats have voted for her. In addition to her elected delegate majority, she’s received approximately 13.5 million votes so far in primaries and caucuses, compared with 10.5 million for Sanders.
There also isn’t much sign of forward momentum for Sanders, after a strong run of contests in late March and early April. Over the past seven weeks, from the New York primary on April 19 through Puerto Rico on Sunday, Clinton has won 505 pledged delegates compared with 428 for Sanders. Her current lead in our national polling average, 14.4 percentage points, is the widest it has been since mid-February.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
If she gets indicted after the convention it will be the biggest and dumbest mistake ever made by one of our major political parties, bigger even than having Trump as a nominee.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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And you are ignoring the point that it is fraud and voter suppression to call the race the night before 5 states vote, as well as counting SDs before they vote.rgambs said:
You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
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nothing compares to Trump and his "Trump U" problems....he's on the hook for fraud where TX and NY attorney generals have basically said the program was fraudulent.rgambs said:If she gets indicted after the convention it will be the biggest and dumbest mistake ever made by one of our major political parties, bigger even than having Trump as a nominee.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
I think you need to look up the definition of fraudFree said:
And you are ignoring the point that it is fraud and voter suppression to call the race the night before 5 states vote, as well as counting SDs before they vote.rgambs said:
You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
Democracy in action, this is not. Far from it. Americans should be outraged.Gern Blansten said:
I think you need to look up the definition of fraudFree said:
And you are ignoring the point that it is fraud and voter suppression to call the race the night before 5 states vote, as well as counting SDs before they vote.rgambs said:
You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 250 -
I'm not ignoring that it is voter suppression at all.Free said:
And you are ignoring the point that it is fraud and voter suppression to call the race the night before 5 states vote, as well as counting SDs before they vote.rgambs said:
You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Please point out where you talk about voter suppression, then.rgambs said:
I'm not ignoring that it is voter suppression at all.Free said:
And you are ignoring the point that it is fraud and voter suppression to call the race the night before 5 states vote, as well as counting SDs before they vote.rgambs said:
You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
This isn't about who will win the nom, this is about a fair and just election process. Which Americans are being robbed of.Post edited by Free on0 -
I haven't felt the need to whine about it because it's nothing new and it's just reality.Free said:
Please point out where you talk about voter suppression, then.rgambs said:
I'm not ignoring that it is voter suppression at all.Free said:
And you are ignoring the point that it is fraud and voter suppression to call the race the night before 5 states vote, as well as counting SDs before they vote.rgambs said:
You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
This isn't about who will win the nom, this is about a fair and just election process. Which Americans are being robbed of.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
And THAT sort of 'asleep at the wheel' attitude is why the media and the system get away with it, pushing it further and further away from a democratic process every election cycle. Give yourself a pat on the back. NOT.rgambs said:
I haven't felt the need to whine about it because it's nothing new and it's just reality.Free said:
Please point out where you talk about voter suppression, then.rgambs said:
I'm not ignoring that it is voter suppression at all.Free said:
And you are ignoring the point that it is fraud and voter suppression to call the race the night before 5 states vote, as well as counting SDs before they vote.rgambs said:
You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
This isn't about who will win the nom, this is about a fair and just election process. Which Americans are being robbed of.
Not to mention, you just would rather blast people like me who actually care and call the system out on their shit.Post edited by Free on0 -
Hahaha do you think pissing and moaning about how it is unfair is doing anything?Free said:
And THAT sort of 'asleep at the wheel' attitude is why the media and the system get away with it, pushing it further and further away from a democratic process every election cycle. Give yourself a pat on the back. NOT.rgambs said:
I haven't felt the need to whine about it because it's nothing new and it's just reality.Free said:
Please point out where you talk about voter suppression, then.rgambs said:
I'm not ignoring that it is voter suppression at all.Free said:
And you are ignoring the point that it is fraud and voter suppression to call the race the night before 5 states vote, as well as counting SDs before they vote.rgambs said:
You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
This isn't about who will win the nom, this is about a fair and just election process. Which Americans are being robbed of.
The media doesn't effect me, 3 gigs of data/month is the only connection I have to the world outside my farm. They aren't swaying me at all, and the sheep will continue to bah and bleat at their TV's even with your petulant child's attitude flooding the Pearl Jam forum. Come down off your high horse.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Good god, please. Check yourself!rgambs said:
Hahaha do you think pissing and moaning about how it is unfair is doing anything?Free said:
And THAT sort of 'asleep at the wheel' attitude is why the media and the system get away with it, pushing it further and further away from a democratic process every election cycle. Give yourself a pat on the back. NOT.rgambs said:
I haven't felt the need to whine about it because it's nothing new and it's just reality.Free said:
Please point out where you talk about voter suppression, then.rgambs said:
I'm not ignoring that it is voter suppression at all.Free said:
And you are ignoring the point that it is fraud and voter suppression to call the race the night before 5 states vote, as well as counting SDs before they vote.rgambs said:
You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
This isn't about who will win the nom, this is about a fair and just election process. Which Americans are being robbed of.
The media doesn't effect me, 3 gigs of data/month is the only connection I have to the world outside my farm. They aren't swaying me at all, and the sheep will continue to bah and bleat at their TV's even with your petulant child's attitude flooding the Pearl Jam forum. Come down off your high horse.0 -
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/282447-clinton-trump-will-target-female-judges-next
President Clinton putting the hammer down...Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
Free, if you have a problem with the election process, use your democratic right to free speech and propose something better. Highlighting problems can only take you so far in a reasonable debate; at a certain point, empathy really does run dry when complaints are constant but solutions aren't even put on the table.Free said:
Good god, please. Check yourself!rgambs said:
Hahaha do you think pissing and moaning about how it is unfair is doing anything?Free said:
And THAT sort of 'asleep at the wheel' attitude is why the media and the system get away with it, pushing it further and further away from a democratic process every election cycle. Give yourself a pat on the back. NOT.rgambs said:
I haven't felt the need to whine about it because it's nothing new and it's just reality.Free said:
Please point out where you talk about voter suppression, then.rgambs said:
I'm not ignoring that it is voter suppression at all.Free said:
And you are ignoring the point that it is fraud and voter suppression to call the race the night before 5 states vote, as well as counting SDs before they vote.rgambs said:
You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
This isn't about who will win the nom, this is about a fair and just election process. Which Americans are being robbed of.
The media doesn't effect me, 3 gigs of data/month is the only connection I have to the world outside my farm. They aren't swaying me at all, and the sheep will continue to bah and bleat at their TV's even with your petulant child's attitude flooding the Pearl Jam forum. Come down off your high horse.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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It's so strange to me that out of everyone I know, there has been at least one supporter of all the major candidates. This includes Sanders, Trump, Cruz, Kasich, Rubio, O'Malley, and even some of the losers in the back. It includes all but one....Clinton.
AP shouldn't have made that call, however presumptive it may have been, on the eve of such a big primary day. They knew the effect it would have. It's bullshit voter suppression. Legal, of course, but still a total bullshit move.0 -
It's getting served to her on a fucking silver platter. Here's hoping she doesn't fuck it up...0
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It's very interesting Benjs. Exactly how do you propose throwing actual solutions on the table when everyone here, including yourself, choose to attack the poster bringing up the electoral corruption problems rather than debate the topic itself? Does "shoot the messenger" have a nice ring to it?benjs said:
Free, if you have a problem with the election process, use your democratic right to free speech and propose something better. Highlighting problems can only take you so far in a reasonable debate; at a certain point, empathy really does run dry when complaints are constant but solutions aren't even put on the table.Free said:
Good god, please. Check yourself!rgambs said:
Hahaha do you think pissing and moaning about how it is unfair is doing anything?Free said:
And THAT sort of 'asleep at the wheel' attitude is why the media and the system get away with it, pushing it further and further away from a democratic process every election cycle. Give yourself a pat on the back. NOT.rgambs said:
I haven't felt the need to whine about it because it's nothing new and it's just reality.Free said:
Please point out where you talk about voter suppression, then.rgambs said:
I'm not ignoring that it is voter suppression at all.Free said:
And you are ignoring the point that it is fraud and voter suppression to call the race the night before 5 states vote, as well as counting SDs before they vote.rgambs said:
You are ignoring the point that Clinton has more votes from the people.Free said:
Comments like these emphasize how little you know about who and how Superdelegates work. Or is it what you want to believe?mrussel1 said:
Why do you want super delegates to overturn the will of the voters? That seems contrary to Bernie's core message. It's all very confusing.Free said:One would be a fool to believe what the news is saying right now. The almighty race to be the first media station to report the false news!! And ahead of 5 state primaries!
Note to Americans:
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
superdelegates do not vote until july 25
This isn't about who will win the nom, this is about a fair and just election process. Which Americans are being robbed of.
The media doesn't effect me, 3 gigs of data/month is the only connection I have to the world outside my farm. They aren't swaying me at all, and the sheep will continue to bah and bleat at their TV's even with your petulant child's attitude flooding the Pearl Jam forum. Come down off your high horse.
Have you guys noticed Brian Lux gone, who left for this exact reason? Continually, you guys prefer to let loose on the messenger and NOT actually discuss the topic of election corruption. When we actually have a decent discussion without need to personally attack, that's when solutions can be proposed. But thatcan'tDoesn't happen here.Post edited by Free on0 -
Thanks for this. I am so glad someone else here can acknowledge it.EarlWelsh said:It's so strange to me that out of everyone I know, there has been at least one supporter of all the major candidates. This includes Sanders, Trump, Cruz, Kasich, Rubio, O'Malley, and even some of the losers in the back. It includes all but one....Clinton.
AP shouldn't have made that call, however presumptive it may have been, on the eve of such a big primary day. They knew the effect it would have. It's bullshit voter suppression. Legal, of course, but still a total bullshit move.
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