Hillary won more votes for President

Free

From http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/california-voter-suppression-election-fraud-primary-lawsuit-examples-photos-registration-changes/
They posted the above video I posted.

Multiple TV networks have admitted that at 8:00 p.m. Eastern on June 7, three hours before polls in California even close, they’re going to report that Hillary Clinton has won the Democratic nomination. This is noted in the video above on MSNBC. This could suppress the vote, as voters who have no idea what’s actually happening might be discouraged from voting at all in the last few hours of the election.

The truth is that, according to delegate numbers, neither Sanders nor Clinton can “clinch” the nomination through pledged delegates alone by the time the California primary closes. To win the nomination without superdelegates, a candidate would need 2,383 pledged delegates. Neither Clinton nor Sanders will be getting that number.

However, Sanders does have a slight chance of surpassing Clinton in the pledged delegate count if he wins about 67 percent of the vote. If this happens, superdelegates might switch to support him. Superdelegates will be deciding the nomination at the Democratic Convention in late July, and even superdelegates who have previously said they are voting for Clinton are free to change their minds. Sanders’ supporters are angered by MSNBC’s report that TV new stations will erroneously report a Clinton nomination win.

PJ_Soul

Free said:

benjs said:

rgambs said:

Free said:

Let's face it Hillary supporters.

The sheer number of Sanders supporters completely outweighs Hillary supporters.

Have a nice day.

Seriously dude, you are making me wish I wasn't a Bernie supporter.
Sanders is THE MAN but his support is getting closer and closer to an equal force of immaturity to that of Trump's supporters.

The votes are in, and Sanders is losing. If you can't accept loss without screaming "you cheated" you shouldn't be playing at the adult's table.
Your contention here is that 3 million false votes were logged for Clinton? No, even worse, since Sanders is completely outweighing Clinton it must be more like 5 or 6 million cases of voter fraud...
That is an absolutely ridiculous line of thinking.


It is clear that Sanders has more supporters that are ardent, dedicated, and committed to him than Clinton, but even though the vast majority of voters don't go to rallies, they go to the polls and they are (sadly) picking Clinton.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. I would love to see Sanders as POTUS, and will continue to hope this is the case until he is 100% out of the race. That doesn't mean I'll ignore basic mathematics, or get offended when people show valid statistics suggesting he's (very clearly) the underdog in becoming the Democratic party's nominee.

You're both missing the point though. This isn't about Sanders winning anymore, we all know it's a slim chance.

The point that no one seems to want to talk about is how this election IS rigged. Don't gloss over that fact, Benjs and gambs. This isn't about falling into line behind another candidate, this is about the corruption of the election process.

I'll say it again, MSNBC is planning to call the CA race @ 5pm Pacific time, well before polls close. And most people go vote after work.

Address THAT point, which affects all Americans regardless of party, not individuals!

This is not some silly made up notion, the media has admitted it!

Sorry, but I feel like the "riggedness" of these primaries is a huge point of discussion on these boards and in the media. It has been a common theme running through the entire process.

mrussel1

Free said:

Watch carefully.

https://m.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4kwxsy/msnbc_admits_well_suppress_voting_to_help_clinton/

I did watch carefully. 3x. And you completely misrepresented what Jeff Weaver said, and further, he says it will depress turnout on both sides. You want to argue that no one wins the nomination until the convention? That's fine. It's true. That's why the word PRESUMPTIVE is used. This is true for the GOP too.

Gern Blansten

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11843550/hillary-clinton-trump-risk

Bentleyspop

mrussel1 said:

Free said:

Watch carefully.

https://m.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4kwxsy/msnbc_admits_well_suppress_voting_to_help_clinton/

I did watch carefully. 3x. And you completely misrepresented what Jeff Weaver said, and further, he says it will depress turnout on both sides. You want to argue that no one wins the nomination until the convention? That's fine. It's true. That's why the word PRESUMPTIVE is used. This is true for the GOP too.

This is no place for the truth, the facts, or verifiable details.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Good point http://www.msn.com/en-ca/movies/celebrity/susan-sarandon-says-hillary-clinton-will-be-indicted-over-email-scandal/ar-BBtOTt4?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignout
I feel it would be very hard for me to send that message that I give her permission to use my taxes

mrussel1

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Good point http://www.msn.com/en-ca/movies/celebrity/susan-sarandon-says-hillary-clinton-will-be-indicted-over-email-scandal/ar-BBtOTt4?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignout
I feel it would be very hard for me to send that message that I give her permission to use my taxes

It must be nice for Susan to sit in her ivory tower, saying Bernie or Bust. The rest of us will have to live with the consequences of a Trump Presidency. It won't be a big deal for her.

Free

http://m.truthdig.com/report/item/sanders_to_clinton_yes_trumps_foreign_policy_20160604

...
“I agree with Secretary Clinton that Donald Trump’s foreign policy ideas are incredibly reckless and irresponsible,” he said in his statement. “But when it comes to foreign policy, we cannot forget that Secretary Clinton voted for the war in Iraq, the worst foreign policy blunder in modern American history, and that she has been a proponent of regime change, as in Libya, without thinking through the consequences.”...

CH156378

Free said:

http://m.truthdig.com/report/item/sanders_to_clinton_yes_trumps_foreign_policy_20160604

...
“I agree with Secretary Clinton that Donald Trump’s foreign policy ideas are incredibly reckless and irresponsible,” he said in his statement. “But when it comes to foreign policy, we cannot forget that Secretary Clinton voted for the war in Iraq, the worst foreign policy blunder in modern American history, and that she has been a proponent of regime change, as in Libya, without thinking through the consequences.”...

Main reason I voted Bernie in primary.

Free

Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, claims there's been media "malpractice" in coverage of the Democratic race between Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Media wrong to call race Tuesday.
Source: CNN (Clinton News Network)

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/06/05/cenk-uygur-criticizes-coverage-of-sanders.cnn

mrussel1

Free said:

Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, claims there's been media "malpractice" in coverage of the Democratic race between Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Media wrong to call race Tuesday.
Source: CNN (Clinton News Network)

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/06/05/cenk-uygur-criticizes-coverage-of-sanders.cnn

Wow! Malpractice! Stop the presses with this new angle. Sanders and his lackeys blame someone else for losing pledged del., super dels, and the popular vote. Who saw this coming today!

rgambs

mrussel1 said:

Free said:

Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, claims there's been media "malpractice" in coverage of the Democratic race between Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Media wrong to call race Tuesday.
Source: CNN (Clinton News Network)

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/06/05/cenk-uygur-criticizes-coverage-of-sanders.cnn

Wow! Malpractice! Stop the presses with this new angle. Sanders and his lackeys blame someone else for losing pledged del., super dels, and the popular vote. Who saw this coming today!

That's going a little far, the media has clearly been biased toward Clinton, and using the unbound delegates to declare her the victor before those delegates vote is the culmination of the mistreatment Sanders has endured.

Free

mrussel1 said:

Free said:

Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, claims there's been media "malpractice" in coverage of the Democratic race between Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Media wrong to call race Tuesday.
Source: CNN (Clinton News Network)

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/06/05/cenk-uygur-criticizes-coverage-of-sanders.cnn

Wow! Malpractice! Stop the presses with this new angle. Sanders and his lackeys blame someone else for losing pledged del., super dels, and the popular vote. Who saw this coming today!

Because I will not address you again, because one can't reason with the unreasonable, I'd just like to point out that there is a serious need for a faceplant emoticon. Even with solid evidence, when one refuses to acknowledge reality, posting can be completely redundant.

mrussel1

rgambs said:

mrussel1 said:

Free said:

Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, claims there's been media "malpractice" in coverage of the Democratic race between Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Media wrong to call race Tuesday.
Source: CNN (Clinton News Network)

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/06/05/cenk-uygur-criticizes-coverage-of-sanders.cnn

Wow! Malpractice! Stop the presses with this new angle. Sanders and his lackeys blame someone else for losing pledged del., super dels, and the popular vote. Who saw this coming today!

That's going a little far, the media has clearly been biased toward Clinton, and using the unbound delegates to declare her the victor before those delegates vote is the culmination of the mistreatment Sanders has endured.

They have declared her the 'presumptive' nominee. That's a really important word and historically accurate. Take a look how often super delegates have changed their minds. It's essentially zero. You know how many have changed their minds this cycle? One... someone flipped from Bernie to Hillary.

Second, I can't see how anyone can say the press has favored Hillary. Huffington Post which is the #3 news site behind Yahoo and Google (neither which do much of their own writing, rather aggregating) has been so over the top supporting Bernie that I stopped going there during Feb/March, until she swept the NY Tuesday primaries.

Free

mrussel1 said:

rgambs said:

mrussel1 said:

Free said:

Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, claims there's been media "malpractice" in coverage of the Democratic race between Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Media wrong to call race Tuesday.
Source: CNN (Clinton News Network)

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/06/05/cenk-uygur-criticizes-coverage-of-sanders.cnn

Wow! Malpractice! Stop the presses with this new angle. Sanders and his lackeys blame someone else for losing pledged del., super dels, and the popular vote. Who saw this coming today!

That's going a little far, the media has clearly been biased toward Clinton, and using the unbound delegates to declare her the victor before those delegates vote is the culmination of the mistreatment Sanders has endured.

They have declared her the 'presumptive' nominee. That's a really important word and historically accurate. Take a look how often super delegates have changed their minds. It's essentially zero. You know how many have changed their minds this cycle? One... someone flipped from Bernie to Hillary.

Second, I can't see how anyone can say the press has favored Hillary. Huffington Post which is the #3 news site behind Yahoo and Google (neither which do much of their own writing, rather aggregating) has been so over the top supporting Bernie that I stopped going there during Feb/March, until she swept the NY Tuesday primaries.

You're wrong. I suggest you research the 2008 election. But wait, you only read what you want to believe. Redundancy.

mrussel1

Free said:

mrussel1 said:

rgambs said:

mrussel1 said:

Free said:

Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, claims there's been media "malpractice" in coverage of the Democratic race between Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Media wrong to call race Tuesday.
Source: CNN (Clinton News Network)

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/06/05/cenk-uygur-criticizes-coverage-of-sanders.cnn

Wow! Malpractice! Stop the presses with this new angle. Sanders and his lackeys blame someone else for losing pledged del., super dels, and the popular vote. Who saw this coming today!

That's going a little far, the media has clearly been biased toward Clinton, and using the unbound delegates to declare her the victor before those delegates vote is the culmination of the mistreatment Sanders has endured.

They have declared her the 'presumptive' nominee. That's a really important word and historically accurate. Take a look how often super delegates have changed their minds. It's essentially zero. You know how many have changed their minds this cycle? One... someone flipped from Bernie to Hillary.

Second, I can't see how anyone can say the press has favored Hillary. Huffington Post which is the #3 news site behind Yahoo and Google (neither which do much of their own writing, rather aggregating) has been so over the top supporting Bernie that I stopped going there during Feb/March, until she swept the NY Tuesday primaries.

You're wrong. I suggest you research the 2008 election. But wait, you only read what you want to believe. Redundancy.

I'm not wrong. A couple dozen switched in 2008. It's difficult to find the precise number because it is essentially verbal. But that equates to what... 4%? How many switched thus far? One. What about 2004? What about 2000? 1992? Tell me if you can find something that equates to greater than 5% since its inception. I'd be quite surprised.

rgambs

mrussel1 said:

rgambs said:

mrussel1 said:

Free said:

Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, claims there's been media "malpractice" in coverage of the Democratic race between Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Media wrong to call race Tuesday.
Source: CNN (Clinton News Network)

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/06/05/cenk-uygur-criticizes-coverage-of-sanders.cnn

Wow! Malpractice! Stop the presses with this new angle. Sanders and his lackeys blame someone else for losing pledged del., super dels, and the popular vote. Who saw this coming today!

That's going a little far, the media has clearly been biased toward Clinton, and using the unbound delegates to declare her the victor before those delegates vote is the culmination of the mistreatment Sanders has endured.

They have declared her the 'presumptive' nominee. That's a really important word and historically accurate. Take a look how often super delegates have changed their minds. It's essentially zero. You know how many have changed their minds this cycle? One... someone flipped from Bernie to Hillary.

Second, I can't see how anyone can say the press has favored Hillary. Huffington Post which is the #3 news site behind Yahoo and Google (neither which do much of their own writing, rather aggregating) has been so over the top supporting Bernie that I stopped going there during Feb/March, until she swept the NY Tuesday primaries.

Which makes it just about as many as the number of presumptive nominees that have been under credible threat of indictment on felony charges prior to the convention.

Using one of the most liberal website news sources as evidence that the media hasnt been biased is not worth very much. Television coverage (which is still king in media) has given very little notice to Sanders' massive turnouts, they have continually overstated the margin of Clinton's lead, and they have been complicit with Clinton's media blackout strategy (which is a good strategy for her, btw)

mrussel1

Free said:

mrussel1 said:

rgambs said:

mrussel1 said:

Free said:

Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, claims there's been media "malpractice" in coverage of the Democratic race between Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Media wrong to call race Tuesday.
Source: CNN (Clinton News Network)

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/06/05/cenk-uygur-criticizes-coverage-of-sanders.cnn

Wow! Malpractice! Stop the presses with this new angle. Sanders and his lackeys blame someone else for losing pledged del., super dels, and the popular vote. Who saw this coming today!

That's going a little far, the media has clearly been biased toward Clinton, and using the unbound delegates to declare her the victor before those delegates vote is the culmination of the mistreatment Sanders has endured.

They have declared her the 'presumptive' nominee. That's a really important word and historically accurate. Take a look how often super delegates have changed their minds. It's essentially zero. You know how many have changed their minds this cycle? One... someone flipped from Bernie to Hillary.

Second, I can't see how anyone can say the press has favored Hillary. Huffington Post which is the #3 news site behind Yahoo and Google (neither which do much of their own writing, rather aggregating) has been so over the top supporting Bernie that I stopped going there during Feb/March, until she swept the NY Tuesday primaries.

You're wrong. I suggest you research the 2008 election. But wait, you only read what you want to believe. Redundancy.

Hey, you still trying to decipher that Reddit post from the other day?

rssesq

why is the area directly above her upper lip so damn wrinkled?

PJ_Soul

rssesq said:

why is the area directly above her upper lip so damn wrinkled?

It's the aging process.