Hillary won more votes for President

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  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    diazepam 5m, and its free up there. lmao
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    pjalive21 said:

    CNN and you liberal rag is done as the rest of your polling bullshit

    CNN was very good at the coverage tonight until it was clear their message wasn't getting through to the blue.
    Polls? What are those?
    Flush.
    :wink:
    :wink: polls have always meant nothing.
    True. I mentioned long ago that the exact same thing happened in the last provincial elections in BC. All polls indicated a sure win with a comfortable margin for NDP right up until the polls closed, and then the Liberals won. I haven't trusted political polls since.
    I wonder if Nate Silver feels like a heel this morning?
    Nate was the only one giving him a chance, and had repeatedly warned that Trump had a chance and that he was a few percentage points of polling error to win. For every 3 coin flips Trump could win, those are not bad odds.
    I was just wondering because even at 6pm last night he had Clinton with a 78% chance of winning. Yes, that gives Trump a 22% chance... but come on. It was a serious failure of political polling, which he is supposed to specialize in. I bet this hurts his career.
    The only person who saw it at 6pm was me.
    Well I guess you're a genius, lol. I figured the swing states might pull it out.... Also, someone was trolling here and making fake announcements before I even got home. Silly me, I thought he wasn't lying, so thought things were going better than they really were before I even got home.
    I dunno, I think I figured it would be Trump for sure around 7pm Pacific. I watched a little longer after that and then turned it off in disgust. I woke up at 1am for some reason, and checked to see if maybe Clinton somehow eked out a win... obviously I had trouble getting back to sleep.
    I saw it at 6pm Eastern! I am a genius! (A lucky one)
  • PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    pjalive21 said:

    CNN and you liberal rag is done as the rest of your polling bullshit

    CNN was very good at the coverage tonight until it was clear their message wasn't getting through to the blue.
    Polls? What are those?
    Flush.
    :wink:
    :wink: polls have always meant nothing.
    True. I mentioned long ago that the exact same thing happened in the last provincial elections in BC. All polls indicated a sure win with a comfortable margin for NDP right up until the polls closed, and then the Liberals won. I haven't trusted political polls since.
    I wonder if Nate Silver feels like a heel this morning?
    Nate was the only one giving him a chance, and had repeatedly warned that Trump had a chance and that he was a few percentage points of polling error to win. For every 3 coin flips Trump could win, those are not bad odds.
    I was just wondering because even at 6pm last night he had Clinton with a 78% chance of winning. Yes, that gives Trump a 22% chance... but come on. It was a serious failure of political polling, which he is supposed to specialize in. I bet this hurts his career.
    He doesn't do the polling though...he just has a model that interprets the polling that is provided to him.

    I say he did better than anyone else...he gave Trump a 30% chance when no other model that I saw did. I don't know where the 22% chance came from. Silver's model froze at midnight Monday since there were no more polls to update the model. It is still on his site showing the 30% chance for Trump.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    pjalive21 said:

    CNN and you liberal rag is done as the rest of your polling bullshit

    CNN was very good at the coverage tonight until it was clear their message wasn't getting through to the blue.
    Polls? What are those?
    Flush.
    :wink:
    :wink: polls have always meant nothing.
    True. I mentioned long ago that the exact same thing happened in the last provincial elections in BC. All polls indicated a sure win with a comfortable margin for NDP right up until the polls closed, and then the Liberals won. I haven't trusted political polls since.
    I wonder if Nate Silver feels like a heel this morning?
    Nate was the only one giving him a chance, and had repeatedly warned that Trump had a chance and that he was a few percentage points of polling error to win. For every 3 coin flips Trump could win, those are not bad odds.
    I was just wondering because even at 6pm last night he had Clinton with a 78% chance of winning. Yes, that gives Trump a 22% chance... but come on. It was a serious failure of political polling, which he is supposed to specialize in. I bet this hurts his career.
    He doesn't do the polling though...he just has a model that interprets the polling that is provided to him.

    I say he did better than anyone else...he gave Trump a 30% chance when no other model that I saw did. I don't know where the 22% chance came from. Silver's model froze at midnight Monday since there were no more polls to update the model. It is still on his site showing the 30% chance for Trump.
    Silver was bang on considering the numbers publicly available. He stressed in the days before that her electoral vote tally was not safe. If you look at the raw numbers it would not have taken much for a handfull of states to have gone the other way.
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    did anyone see Rachel Maddow last night? Her neck grew another 3 inches.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    pjalive21 said:

    CNN and you liberal rag is done as the rest of your polling bullshit

    CNN was very good at the coverage tonight until it was clear their message wasn't getting through to the blue.
    Polls? What are those?
    Flush.
    :wink:
    :wink: polls have always meant nothing.
    True. I mentioned long ago that the exact same thing happened in the last provincial elections in BC. All polls indicated a sure win with a comfortable margin for NDP right up until the polls closed, and then the Liberals won. I haven't trusted political polls since.
    I wonder if Nate Silver feels like a heel this morning?
    Nate was the only one giving him a chance, and had repeatedly warned that Trump had a chance and that he was a few percentage points of polling error to win. For every 3 coin flips Trump could win, those are not bad odds.
    I was just wondering because even at 6pm last night he had Clinton with a 78% chance of winning. Yes, that gives Trump a 22% chance... but come on. It was a serious failure of political polling, which he is supposed to specialize in. I bet this hurts his career.
    He doesn't do the polling though...he just has a model that interprets the polling that is provided to him.

    I say he did better than anyone else...he gave Trump a 30% chance when no other model that I saw did. I don't know where the 22% chance came from. Silver's model froze at midnight Monday since there were no more polls to update the model. It is still on his site showing the 30% chance for Trump.
    Silver was bang on considering the numbers publicly available. He stressed in the days before that her electoral vote tally was not safe. If you look at the raw numbers it would not have taken much for a handfull of states to have gone the other way.
    Yeah, next election he is still the guy that I will go to when looking for predictions.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,870

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    pjalive21 said:

    CNN and you liberal rag is done as the rest of your polling bullshit

    CNN was very good at the coverage tonight until it was clear their message wasn't getting through to the blue.
    Polls? What are those?
    Flush.
    :wink:
    :wink: polls have always meant nothing.
    True. I mentioned long ago that the exact same thing happened in the last provincial elections in BC. All polls indicated a sure win with a comfortable margin for NDP right up until the polls closed, and then the Liberals won. I haven't trusted political polls since.
    I wonder if Nate Silver feels like a heel this morning?
    Nate was the only one giving him a chance, and had repeatedly warned that Trump had a chance and that he was a few percentage points of polling error to win. For every 3 coin flips Trump could win, those are not bad odds.
    I was just wondering because even at 6pm last night he had Clinton with a 78% chance of winning. Yes, that gives Trump a 22% chance... but come on. It was a serious failure of political polling, which he is supposed to specialize in. I bet this hurts his career.
    He doesn't do the polling though...he just has a model that interprets the polling that is provided to him.

    I say he did better than anyone else...he gave Trump a 30% chance when no other model that I saw did. I don't know where the 22% chance came from. Silver's model froze at midnight Monday since there were no more polls to update the model. It is still on his site showing the 30% chance for Trump.
    Right, interpreting poll results. FFS. :lol: All I am saying is that Nate Silver really hitched his name to all his reports, basically set himself up as THE go-to source, and damn, the results of this election probably won't be good for his career.
    He was speaking live on ABC when he said it was up to 78% (he was asked why it went up). I guess that was around 6pm PST, maybe even later. He looked pretty stressed out actually, ha.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited November 2016
    rssesq said:

    did anyone see Rachel Maddow last night? Her neck grew another 3 inches.

    Lol...I kinda enjoyed watching msnbc and cnn
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    Don't fret all. There's always Kanye in 2020.
  • rssesq said:

    Don't fret all. There's always Kanye in 2020.

    Fuck that. Give me Dwayne The Rock Johnson.
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
    :bawling:




    :giggle:
  • dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Here is some fascinating statistics, published today by Politico. The punchline is that Trump would need to win 70% of white males in order to win the general election. But here's what's working against him:
    - No GOP candidate in the last half century has won more than 63% of white males
    - The turnout rate for white males is very high already, so not much 'enthusiasm' room to grow
    - Trump's favorable/unfavorable for Hispanics is -50%. That's astoundingly bad. Experts predict he might get 15% of the Hispanic vote. Bush peaked at 35%. Everyone else on the GOP has been much lower. Estimates are that Hispanic turnout will be 15% greater in '16 than in '12. So Trump's problem is exasperated even vs. Romney.
    - Asian-Americans are also similarly negative on him.
    - Romney only won 5% of the black vote in 2012. Don't think for a second that Obama is not going to savage Trump in the run up to the election. There is no way he will get the 12% Bush got.
    - Women are just as bad of a problem. Dems typically win 53% of the woman vote. He has to win 62% of all women + 70% of white men.

    For you political wonks, it's a good read: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699?o=1

    Woot!

    interesting!
    A bigger person wouldn't scour through these threads to rub past statements in. Isn't winning enough?
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    Free said:

    Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
    :bawling:




    :giggle:

    How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.

    You have absolutely no credibility here.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.

    Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.
    It is not an idiotic comment.
    She will not be the next POTUS because she will forever be dogged with press questions about infidelity.
    Imagine Hillary addressing muslims?
    She didn't cheat on her husband. Trump cheated on his wives. Democrats naturally attract 53-55% of women voters. Do you really think attacking Hillary by blaming her for Bill's infidelities is going to attract the 62% of women voters necessary for Trump to win the election? Basically, you are saying that this line of attack is going to turn a natural 5% deficit into a 12% positive. I'm sorry, that's fantasy land. It is an idiotic comment because it's a politically untenable attack for Trump to take.
    97% of all statistics are made up, on the spot. Nice numbers Ace!
    Educate yourself a little bit please. I'm tired of you embarrassing yourself on these boards. It will also help you be prepared for Trump's general election loss. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699
    Education is key!
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    Ok, that is pretty funny. Wrong, but funny.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    dignin said:

    Free said:

    Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
    :bawling:




    :giggle:

    How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.

    You have absolutely no credibility here.
    Aw, my feewings are hurt.

    Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Free said:

    dignin said:

    Free said:

    Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
    :bawling:




    :giggle:

    How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.

    You have absolutely no credibility here.
    Aw, my feewings are hurt.

    Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.
    America needs to heal, we need to reconcile and come together with liberty and justice for all
  • ^^^
    The healing will begin when all sides work together.
    Trump and Libs, together.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    JC29856 said:

    Free said:

    dignin said:

    Free said:

    Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
    :bawling:




    :giggle:

    How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.

    You have absolutely no credibility here.
    Aw, my feewings are hurt.

    Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.
    America needs to heal, we need to reconcile and come together with liberty and justice for all
    With chaos, comes great change.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
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    JC29856 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.

    Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.
    It is not an idiotic comment.
    She will not be the next POTUS because she will forever be dogged with press questions about infidelity.
    Imagine Hillary addressing muslims?
    She didn't cheat on her husband. Trump cheated on his wives. Democrats naturally attract 53-55% of women voters. Do you really think attacking Hillary by blaming her for Bill's infidelities is going to attract the 62% of women voters necessary for Trump to win the election? Basically, you are saying that this line of attack is going to turn a natural 5% deficit into a 12% positive. I'm sorry, that's fantasy land. It is an idiotic comment because it's a politically untenable attack for Trump to take.
    97% of all statistics are made up, on the spot. Nice numbers Ace!
    Educate yourself a little bit please. I'm tired of you embarrassing yourself on these boards. It will also help you be prepared for Trump's general election loss. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699
    Education is key!
    "I love the poorly educated"-Trump
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Free said:

    dignin said:

    Free said:

    Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
    :bawling:




    :giggle:

    How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.

    You have absolutely no credibility here.
    Aw, my feewings are hurt.

    Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.
    Blindsided...more like conned
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Free said:

    JC29856 said:

    Free said:

    dignin said:

    Free said:

    Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
    :bawling:




    :giggle:

    How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.

    You have absolutely no credibility here.
    Aw, my feewings are hurt.

    Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.
    America needs to heal, we need to reconcile and come together with liberty and justice for all
    With chaos, comes great change.
    Chaos + change ≠ good
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,831
    So was Hillary just immensely selfish in forcing herself on the Democratic Party when she knew she was divisive and flawed candidate?
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927

    So was Hillary just immensely selfish in forcing herself on the Democratic Party when she knew she was divisive and flawed candidate?

    30 years of public service is selfless.

    On the other hand, Trump is the walking manifestation of selfishness.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,831
    edited November 2016
    Look where that entitlement because of 30 years of public service (that resulted in $200 million in the bank) got the Dem party? She was selfish, but I understand the pressure to run when people gave her and her husband $200 million for influence.

    That is funny though. Are there any other selfless jobs that will make me .2 billion dollars? I am going to check Monster.com
    Post edited by bootlegger10 on
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927

    Look where that entitlement because of 30 years of public service (that resulted in $200 million in the bank) got the Dem party? She was selfish, but I understand the pressure to run when people gave her and her husband $200 million for influence.

    Not for nothing, but if I spend 30 years dedicated to working for the same company, I would feel obligated to throw my hat in the ring when the old CEO decides to retire. That's not entitlement. That's being qualified for the job at hand.

    Do you honestly believe Trump ran on some concrete ideology? You know, besides fear mongering....
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    CM189191 said:

    Free said:

    JC29856 said:

    Free said:

    dignin said:

    Free said:

    Apologies to all Hillary supporters...
    :bawling:




    :giggle:

    How's that system is rigged for Hillary nonsense you were peddling work out for you? I'm sure you have moved on to a new conspiracy theory.

    You have absolutely no credibility here.
    Aw, my feewings are hurt.

    Yep, guess I was wrong about that, just like everyone else pretty much. To say America is blindsided is an understatement.
    America needs to heal, we need to reconcile and come together with liberty and justice for all
    With chaos, comes great change.
    Chaos + change ≠ good
    Not always. Let's wait-and-see.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    So was Hillary just immensely selfish in forcing herself on the Democratic Party when she knew she was divisive and flawed candidate?

    Or was the Democratic Party immensely selfish and flawed when pushing her as the candidate and pushing Sanders out? Sanders had a better chance of beating Trump and we knew it.
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