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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,766
    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    ABC poll:

    "Among registered voters, the two candidates have near-identical unfavorable ratings: 59 percent for Clinton vs. 60 percent for Trump"

    Clinton hasn't given a real press conference in 9 months. Trump just finished giving a live press conference in Mexico..... WTF!?!?

    GWB pulled this shit and this place exploded- now another politician is doing the same and all you guys do is come to her defense. Put your damn country before any politician! Hold these fuckers accountable!!

    Just out of curiosity, what is the burning question(s) you want answered from HRC, that wasn't addressed in her cable interviews last week?
    Her fox and msnbc questions? Are you kidding me? You call that a press conference?

    It doesn't matter what questions I have. what matters is that every politician be held accountable and face the press. It's the process that is critical and I think this says a whole lot about a candidate.
    Did I call that a press conference? I believe I used the word "interview" which is not a synonym for press conference. So you just want her to answer questions from 10 people rather than 4 even though there's nothing specific you want to learn. I guess that makes sense...
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    If you plan on bidding to be the POTUS, you should have to have a press conference. And she's shady to begin with! Yet, her supporters will do anything to protect her from evil citizens who want nothing but answers.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,640
    Free said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    I think candidates should be required to do press conferences and I think Hillary should, but there is absolutely zero reason for her to. In this day and age, she has so much more control over her message and there is no reason for her to subject herself to that type of questioning. Not that I agree with it, it's just not going to happen.

    Excuses, excuses...
    I'm not making excuses. Just stating a fact.
    You mean opinion.
    I guess. I mean I think it is a fact that she has much more control over her message if she doesn't subject herself to that questioning, which was largely my point. Especially when 99% of questions will be about email...
    LMAO. Control of her message = hiding from questions. And no, 99% are not about emails, but a bit. See my edited post above. Questions about her health is another thing she has to hide from as well...
    Ha, no avoid stupid questions like conspiracy theories about her health. Thanks for proving my point.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,736
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    Personally, I expect the federal LEADER to do press conferences. I really don't give a shit if a candidate does or not. They are doing speeches and interviews left right and centre during the election run, so I don't think the press conferences are necessary when she's not even the President yet, so I don't know why you guys have that expectation already. I think acting like that is "shady" is pretty damn silly. If she carries that into the Presidency, then that's a big problem that I am familiar with and it sucks. Harper did that to Canada and it was harmful IMO.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,640
    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    ABC poll:

    "Among registered voters, the two candidates have near-identical unfavorable ratings: 59 percent for Clinton vs. 60 percent for Trump"

    Clinton hasn't given a real press conference in 9 months. Trump just finished giving a live press conference in Mexico..... WTF!?!?

    GWB pulled this shit and this place exploded- now another politician is doing the same and all you guys do is come to her defense. Put your damn country before any politician! Hold these fuckers accountable!!

    Just out of curiosity, what is the burning question(s) you want answered from HRC, that wasn't addressed in her cable interviews last week?
    Her fox and msnbc questions? Are you kidding me? You call that a press conference?

    It doesn't matter what questions I have. what matters is that every politician be held accountable and face the press. It's the process that is critical and I think this says a whole lot about a candidate.
    I agree with this and it will happen when she is President, not a day before though...

    Again, because comprehension seems to be difficult. I would like her to do a press conference.
    Comprehension would be much easier if you weren't contradicting yourself. You either demand it of your politicians and leaders or you don't. I get it, you think she should, but also she shouldn't because it will affect her message. She's already at 60% unfavorable- shit.
    like I said the American people are the real losers here and making excuses for politicians only empowers them more.
    I don't know what is so difficult to understand about this.

    I am not making excuses, just stating why.

    I want her to hold a press conference, but it's not going to happen.

    I could stand outside her house with a megaphone asking for a press conference and it's not going to happen, so not sure how I can demand it.

    I am comfortable voting for her as is. I personally do not need any answers that would come from a press conference

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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    ABC poll:

    "Among registered voters, the two candidates have near-identical unfavorable ratings: 59 percent for Clinton vs. 60 percent for Trump"

    Clinton hasn't given a real press conference in 9 months. Trump just finished giving a live press conference in Mexico..... WTF!?!?

    GWB pulled this shit and this place exploded- now another politician is doing the same and all you guys do is come to her defense. Put your damn country before any politician! Hold these fuckers accountable!!

    Just out of curiosity, what is the burning question(s) you want answered from HRC, that wasn't addressed in her cable interviews last week?
    Her fox and msnbc questions? Are you kidding me? You call that a press conference?

    It doesn't matter what questions I have. what matters is that every politician be held accountable and face the press. It's the process that is critical and I think this says a whole lot about a candidate.
    Did I call that a press conference? I believe I used the word "interview" which is not a synonym for press conference. So you just want her to answer questions from 10 people rather than 4 even though there's nothing specific you want to learn. I guess that makes sense...

    So just to be clear you're defending her position of not giving real press conferences, right?

    Because politicians giving press conferences and being held accountable is the true subject matter here.
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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    ABC poll:

    "Among registered voters, the two candidates have near-identical unfavorable ratings: 59 percent for Clinton vs. 60 percent for Trump"

    Clinton hasn't given a real press conference in 9 months. Trump just finished giving a live press conference in Mexico..... WTF!?!?

    GWB pulled this shit and this place exploded- now another politician is doing the same and all you guys do is come to her defense. Put your damn country before any politician! Hold these fuckers accountable!!

    Just out of curiosity, what is the burning question(s) you want answered from HRC, that wasn't addressed in her cable interviews last week?
    Her fox and msnbc questions? Are you kidding me? You call that a press conference?

    It doesn't matter what questions I have. what matters is that every politician be held accountable and face the press. It's the process that is critical and I think this says a whole lot about a candidate.
    I agree with this and it will happen when she is President, not a day before though...

    Again, because comprehension seems to be difficult. I would like her to do a press conference.
    Comprehension would be much easier if you weren't contradicting yourself. You either demand it of your politicians and leaders or you don't. I get it, you think she should, but also she shouldn't because it will affect her message. She's already at 60% unfavorable- shit.
    like I said the American people are the real losers here and making excuses for politicians only empowers them more.
    I don't know what is so difficult to understand about this.

    I am not making excuses, just stating why.

    I want her to hold a press conference, but it's not going to happen.

    I could stand outside her house with a megaphone asking for a press conference and it's not going to happen, so not sure how I can demand it.

    I am comfortable voting for her as is. I personally do not need any answers that would come from a press conference

    I know a lot of republicans who would say the same about GWB.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,766
    edited August 2016
    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    ABC poll:

    "Among registered voters, the two candidates have near-identical unfavorable ratings: 59 percent for Clinton vs. 60 percent for Trump"

    Clinton hasn't given a real press conference in 9 months. Trump just finished giving a live press conference in Mexico..... WTF!?!?

    GWB pulled this shit and this place exploded- now another politician is doing the same and all you guys do is come to her defense. Put your damn country before any politician! Hold these fuckers accountable!!

    Just out of curiosity, what is the burning question(s) you want answered from HRC, that wasn't addressed in her cable interviews last week?
    Her fox and msnbc questions? Are you kidding me? You call that a press conference?

    It doesn't matter what questions I have. what matters is that every politician be held accountable and face the press. It's the process that is critical and I think this says a whole lot about a candidate.
    Did I call that a press conference? I believe I used the word "interview" which is not a synonym for press conference. So you just want her to answer questions from 10 people rather than 4 even though there's nothing specific you want to learn. I guess that makes sense...

    So just to be clear you're defending her position of not giving real press conferences, right?

    Because politicians giving press conferences and being held accountable is the true subject matter here.
    It's pretty fucking low on the things I'm worried about politically these days. If she goes on Fox, 60 minutes, MSNBC, etc. and answers questions, that fulfills my otherwise insatiable need for questions to be answered.

    Edit/addendum - and there's those things called Debates coming up which will be the answers to policy questions that I really care about. I don't care about emails, the Clinton Foundation, Vince Foster or any other BS.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,766
    I'm more worried about my $27 that Tim Canova wasted in South Florida. I mean, $3.3MM in outside money pours into a district to try to alter a race and the best he can do is 43%? Yikes.
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    DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    My god, are you people being this thick just to type more responses?

    What cliffy was saying makes perfect sense to people that don't think everything is a conspiracy. Correct me if I'm wrong cliffy, but you said YOU WANT TO SEE HER DO A PRESS CONFERENCE. But you also know that IT IS NOT REQUIRED SO WHY SHOULD SHE?

    That's not a contradiction. Think people.
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    DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    By the way, holding press conferences does not make anyone accountable. Jesus, keep beating your heads against the wall over that.
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    rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    "press conferences are for suckers." GWB
    "press conferences are for suckers." HRC
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    rssesq said:

    "press conferences are for suckers." GWB
    "press conferences are for suckers." HRC

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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Funny how easily HRC can be compared to the worst president ever.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,640

    My god, are you people being this thick just to type more responses?

    What cliffy was saying makes perfect sense to people that don't think everything is a conspiracy. Correct me if I'm wrong cliffy, but you said YOU WANT TO SEE HER DO A PRESS CONFERENCE. But you also know that IT IS NOT REQUIRED SO WHY SHOULD SHE?

    That's not a contradiction. Think people.

    Yes, indeed that is pretty much it

    Fucking brutal, these guys are. Even when someone agrees with them they go ape shit.
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    rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    2 peas in a pod, lmao. the race to the bottom continues in American politics
    Free said:

    Funny how easily HRC can be compared to the worst president ever.

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,766
    rssesq said:

    2 peas in a pod, lmao. the race to the bottom continues in American politics

    Free said:

    Funny how easily HRC can be compared to the worst president ever.

    Are you still weighing your Rules of Professional Conduct? Just curious if you would have tanked the case that HRC was assigned to back in the 70's. You never answered.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,930
    Free said:

    Funny how easily HRC can be compared to the worst president ever.

    Wait? I thought that was Obama?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,766
    Free said:

    rssesq said:

    "press conferences are for suckers." GWB
    "press conferences are for suckers." HRC

    Oh and using quotes implies someone actually said what you are quoting verbatim. Common practice would be to cite the source. Can you do that please?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,766
    ^^quote meant for rss, esq.. not sure why it picked up Free.
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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672

    My god, are you people being this thick just to type more responses?

    What cliffy was saying makes perfect sense to people that don't think everything is a conspiracy. Correct me if I'm wrong cliffy, but you said YOU WANT TO SEE HER DO A PRESS CONFERENCE. But you also know that IT IS NOT REQUIRED SO WHY SHOULD SHE?

    That's not a contradiction. Think people.

    Having a press conference is a conspiracy? Who's talking conspiracies? You're defending a goddamn politician. You're suggesting that it's ok to not hold them accountable by questioning their motives or positions. Wtf is that?!? 60% of Americans see her as unfavorable- she should be out there doing everything she can to get our votes. Trump went to the lions den and answered questions in Mexico. Now I'm not saying trump is a better choice because of that, but at least he's facing the nation.
    Clinton has time to tweet and give speeches.... She truly must be banking on a certain group of Americans to back her no matter what, which is why she isn't out there answering questions. She must figure that she has enough zombies to win it because who the hell wants trump. Smart to play it safe, but the real losers are the American people
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,930
    rssesq said:

    "press conferences are for suckers." GWB
    "press conferences are for suckers." HRC

    Why don't you post, by order of importance, the 20 or more questions you'd like Hillary supporters to answer? I'd be happy to try and answer them for you. Hell, post the 20 or more questions you'd like to see Hillary answer if she were to hold a "press conference."
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,261
    why hold a press conference when fox news has framed all of the issues in a way that she would have to answer every single question from the defensive position?

    seriously. how many benghazi and email questions do you need her to answer.

    god knows most americans could not give two shits about her policy positions. if they did, they would ask her about policy instead of the 4 people she had murdered at benghazi and about her failing health.

    that was sarcasm for those that don't know me...
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    "Press conference" is the new Benghazi. "Benghazi" was the new Vince Foster. "Vince Foster" was the new pork belly futures. "Pork belly futures" was the new Rose Law Firm billing records. The "Rose Law Firm billing records" was the new White Water Land Deal. "The White Water Land Deal" was the new Wellesley radical feminist. "Wellesley radical feminist" was the new..................
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,261

    "Press conference" is the new Benghazi. "Benghazi" was the new Vince Foster. "Vince Foster" was the new pork belly futures. "Pork belly futures" was the new Rose Law Firm billing records. The "Rose Law Firm billing records" was the new White Water Land Deal. "The White Water Land Deal" was the new Wellesley radical feminist. "Wellesley radical feminist" was the new..................

    the right can't hit her on anything else. behghazi and emailgate did not stick. vince foster did not stick. nothing has stuck to her. now it is playing to the dolts "hmmmm hillary has not spoken to the press in months. what is she hiding???" applies tin foil hat....

    trump has nearly destroyed his campaign with gaffe after gaffe after gaffe at speeches and interviews/press conferences. why would hillary make herself vulnerable to that?
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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672

    why hold a press conference when fox news has framed all of the issues in a way that she would have to answer every single question from the defensive position?

    seriously. how many benghazi and email questions do you need her to answer.

    god knows most americans could not give two shits about her policy positions. if they did, they would ask her about policy instead of the 4 people she had murdered at benghazi and about her failing health.

    that was sarcasm for those that don't know me...

    Hmmmmmmm..... This isn't about finding the new hot button issue. This is about keeping politicians accountable. When GWB wasn't doing it we were all losing our shits over it. Americans love hot button issues. If she were to conduct conferences than she'd be forced to address questions that the majority of Americans are questioning. 9 months is no laughing matter and should not be excusable.

    60% unfavorable - is no laughing matter. Sure a handful of you guys love her and defend her as if she were your blood, but a huge majority of Americans aren't getting what they demand from our politicians, and that isn't fare to them/us. We shouldn't be forced to have Clinton forced down our throats just because we hate/ are afraid of trump. We, as the people, should still be the boss of these shitty politicians.

    You guys are giving her a pass. That's unfair and this has zero to do with conspiracies. This has to do with holding them accountable and making them face the people who pay their salaries.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,766
    tonifig8 said:

    why hold a press conference when fox news has framed all of the issues in a way that she would have to answer every single question from the defensive position?

    seriously. how many benghazi and email questions do you need her to answer.

    god knows most americans could not give two shits about her policy positions. if they did, they would ask her about policy instead of the 4 people she had murdered at benghazi and about her failing health.

    that was sarcasm for those that don't know me...

    Hmmmmmmm..... This isn't about finding the new hot button issue. This is about keeping politicians accountable. When GWB wasn't doing it we were all losing our shits over it. Americans love hot button issues. If she were to conduct conferences than she'd be forced to address questions that the majority of Americans are questioning. 9 months is no laughing matter and should not be excusable.

    60% unfavorable - is no laughing matter. Sure a handful of you guys love her and defend her as if she were your blood, but a huge majority of Americans aren't getting what they demand from our politicians, and that isn't fare to them/us. We shouldn't be forced to have Clinton forced down our throats just because we hate/ are afraid of trump. We, as the people, should still be the boss of these shitty politicians.

    You guys are giving her a pass. That's unfair and this has zero to do with conspiracies. This has to do with holding them accountable and making them face the people who pay their salaries.
    1. First, she's not the President today. That's a big difference between HRC and GWB
    2. There are three debates coming up. There will be TONS of policy questions.
    3. What are just a sample of questions you would like asked that haven't been asked in the interviews that she has conducted in the past few weeks?
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,736
    ^^^ Exactly. To be honest, I think this sudden obsession with HRC's lack of press conferences is downright bizarre.
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited September 2016
    Continue deflecting...

    Srsly, what do you people get out of being a political apologist? Does it make you feel good? Does the term "winning" mean everything to you even if it damages you as a citizen? Do you get paid to defend her?
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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    edited September 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^ Exactly. To be honest, I think this sudden obsession with HRC's lack of press conferences is downright bizarre.

    Bizarre?!? Is that a joke? 9 months without real pressure from the press. Now that's bizarre. She's a politician running for the highest office in the world. She needs to be questioned over and over to demonstrate that she can handle the pressures of the job. Excusing her of this isn't fare. She's banking on her clintonites and those who fear trump to give her the presidency. 60% unfavorable is no laughing matter, but still might win her the nomination as it did for GWB who had just as bad numbers.. All Americans need to be represented here, not just a handful, and that's basically what's happening by her playing it safe and banking on you guys. Low turnout, but enough voters for her to get her the win.

    The debates are one thing. She changed her position on policy during the sanders debates- so that still isn't enough pressure to get to reveal her true nature. Is she going to support ttp? Even though she was for it and than against it. - the media should be digging and digging more at these politicians in order to give us tax payers the absolute best opportunity to elect someone who has truly been vetted. Dig more at her stance on citizens United. She says she's against it now, but that wasn't the case during the campaign. We need more pressure and tough questions. That isn't a conspiracy! And if it makes her look bad oh well, we demand the truth! These people work for us! And don't you fucking forget it!

    Not sure why you guys continue to defend this. She has Time for Twitter and for private events by big donors, but no time to face the majority of the population? It's a slap in the face to our democracy. And you people are only enabling these politicians
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