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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,800
    unsung said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    All she's doing by acknowledging the alt-right is playing the victim.

    No she's not. It's quite the smart strategy. Trump tried to spend this week pivoting and she is drawing the focus back on him and tying him to the alt-right. More importantly... and this shows the doofus move for what it is... everything that Breitbart prints or has printed now is tied to Trump. This is of course because of Bannon. Everything that happens on that website is now Trump's problem.

    It's fucking brilliant by the Clinton campaign.
    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    All she's doing by acknowledging the alt-right is playing the victim.

    No she's not. It's quite the smart strategy. Trump tried to spend this week pivoting and she is drawing the focus back on him and tying him to the alt-right. More importantly... and this shows the doofus move for what it is... everything that Breitbart prints or has printed now is tied to Trump. This is of course because of Bannon. Everything that happens on that website is now Trump's problem.

    It's fucking brilliant by the Clinton campaign.
    She went after Alex Jones too? She's desperate.

    You mean Alex Jones from InfoWars? You mean the guy where Donald Trump went on his show and said "Your reputation is amazing, I won't let you down"? You mean the guy that believes Sandy Hook was staged?

    So let me get this straight... you think it's a bad idea for Clinton to call out the direct ties between a fringe conspiracy psycho and Donald Trump. That's a bad strategy to you. Uh huh. Good thinking. You should continue advising the Trump campaign.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,800
    edited August 2016
    unsung said:
    Hmm okay. So you are ripping on Clinton supporters for not knowing what the alt-right is... Well evidently neither does Trump:

    "This is a term that was just given," Trump continued. "There's no alt-right or alt-left. All that I'm embracing is common sense."

    Cooper pointed to new Trump campaign chief Steve Bannon's comments to Mother Jones last month describing Breitbart, where he then worked as an executive, as "the platform for the alt-right."

    "I don't know what Steve said. I can only speak for myself," Trump responded.


    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/293408-trump-claims-ignorance-on-alt-right-movement

    But that's okay. I know what the fuck it is and the vile vermin that creeps and crawls on the pages of Breitbart and Storm Front. And you probably do too. Good thing Trump hires "the best people" but he doesn't know what the fuck they support, right? Like Manafort and the Ukraine. Yeah, keep supporting him.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,956
    unsung said:
    Well, that proves it then, doesnt it? No alt right exists, the tea party isn't extreme and yes indeed boys and girls, the Republican Party is still the party of Reagan, bush and Randy Paul. Except it always has been, right? Anita Bryant, Bush's smear of McCain in the South Carolina primary and Reagan's choice of announcement locale prove that. Some things never change. Republicans, still racist and homophobic all these years.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,128
    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    All she's doing by acknowledging the alt-right is playing the victim.

    No she's not. It's quite the smart strategy. Trump tried to spend this week pivoting and she is drawing the focus back on him and tying him to the alt-right. More importantly... and this shows the doofus move for what it is... everything that Breitbart prints or has printed now is tied to Trump. This is of course because of Bannon. Everything that happens on that website is now Trump's problem.

    It's fucking brilliant by the Clinton campaign.
    Yes it is. She is going after the semi intelligent white vote by letting them know that they could be guilty by association. The ties of Trump to white supremacy is solid.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,800

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    All she's doing by acknowledging the alt-right is playing the victim.

    No she's not. It's quite the smart strategy. Trump tried to spend this week pivoting and she is drawing the focus back on him and tying him to the alt-right. More importantly... and this shows the doofus move for what it is... everything that Breitbart prints or has printed now is tied to Trump. This is of course because of Bannon. Everything that happens on that website is now Trump's problem.

    It's fucking brilliant by the Clinton campaign.
    Yes it is. She is going after the semi intelligent white vote by letting them know that they could be guilty by association. The ties of Trump to white supremacy is solid.
    I would argue (not disagreeing, but maybe framed differently) that she is going after the moderate republican vote. She is saying "you can't associate yourself with this. Whatever you might think about emails or foundations, Trump's base is vile and beneath you as a human."

    Conversely, Trump is ALSO going after the moderate Republican vote. These minority pitches this week is not about getting 20% of the black vote. They know that ain't happening. It's trying to make it 'okay' for suburban, educated whites to vote for Trump.

    But what all this boils down to is this... the fight for the undecided is for Republican moderates. That means Clinton is on offense, Trump is on defense. If Trump wants to win the election, he has to take Democrats. There's no sign that is happening right now.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,128
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    All she's doing by acknowledging the alt-right is playing the victim.

    No she's not. It's quite the smart strategy. Trump tried to spend this week pivoting and she is drawing the focus back on him and tying him to the alt-right. More importantly... and this shows the doofus move for what it is... everything that Breitbart prints or has printed now is tied to Trump. This is of course because of Bannon. Everything that happens on that website is now Trump's problem.

    It's fucking brilliant by the Clinton campaign.
    Yes it is. She is going after the semi intelligent white vote by letting them know that they could be guilty by association. The ties of Trump to white supremacy is solid.
    I would argue (not disagreeing, but maybe framed differently) that she is going after the moderate republican vote. She is saying "you can't associate yourself with this. Whatever you might think about emails or foundations, Trump's base is vile and beneath you as a human."

    Conversely, Trump is ALSO going after the moderate Republican vote. These minority pitches this week is not about getting 20% of the black vote. They know that ain't happening. It's trying to make it 'okay' for suburban, educated whites to vote for Trump.

    But what all this boils down to is this... the fight for the undecided is for Republican moderates. That means Clinton is on offense, Trump is on defense. If Trump wants to win the election, he has to take Democrats. There's no sign that is happening right now.
    Yeah he's screwed. All that shit yesterday about "Hillary is a bigot" is just insane. She had a great response for that as well...comparing her work with the Southern Poverty Law Center to Trump's federal lawsuits for race discrimination.
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    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    unsung said:
    Well, that proves it then, doesnt it? No alt right exists, the tea party isn't extreme and yes indeed boys and girls, the Republican Party is still the party of Reagan, bush and Randy Paul. Except it always has been, right? Anita Bryant, Bush's smear of McCain in the South Carolina primary and Reagan's choice of announcement locale prove that. Some things never change. Republicans, still racist and homophobic all these years.
    Her own supporters haven't heard of it. It's nearly non-existant, but like everything negative when the news gives it attention it gains traction.

    Just like her husband she's good at shifting the attention to lesser things.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,800
    unsung said:

    unsung said:
    Well, that proves it then, doesnt it? No alt right exists, the tea party isn't extreme and yes indeed boys and girls, the Republican Party is still the party of Reagan, bush and Randy Paul. Except it always has been, right? Anita Bryant, Bush's smear of McCain in the South Carolina primary and Reagan's choice of announcement locale prove that. Some things never change. Republicans, still racist and homophobic all these years.
    Her own supporters haven't heard of it. It's nearly non-existant, but like everything negative when the news gives it attention it gains traction.

    Just like her husband she's good at shifting the attention to lesser things.
    Most people in the mainstream that are not heavy consumers of news and information have not heard of it. But this 'movement' has overtaken moderate Republicans. And that's why she called it out. Now it will be in the lexicon of the news and the Trump team will need to answer for them. Hiring Bannon ties them to the movement. Again, it was a fucking stupid move to hire Bannon if you want to win an election. If your goal is to start a right wing media outlet post-election, then fine. nice move.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,128
    I have to wonder how Trump went with Bannon to begin with. It has to be that no one else wants to get anywhere near that campaign right?
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,800

    I have to wonder how Trump went with Bannon to begin with. It has to be that no one else wants to get anywhere near that campaign right?

    Bannon, Ailes, Hannity.... this is a business venture. It has nothing to do with winning an election, in my opinion.
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    rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299

    lol
    unsung said:

    Alt-right or SJW? Both vermin.

    I'm PC bro, MSU PC bro, u? heard the remix yet
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S2HRYYZoko
    lol

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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    All she's doing by acknowledging the alt-right is playing the victim.

    No she's not. It's quite the smart strategy. Trump tried to spend this week pivoting and she is drawing the focus back on him and tying him to the alt-right. More importantly... and this shows the doofus move for what it is... everything that Breitbart prints or has printed now is tied to Trump. This is of course because of Bannon. Everything that happens on that website is now Trump's problem.

    It's fucking brilliant by the Clinton campaign.
    Yes it is. She is going after the semi intelligent white vote by letting them know that they could be guilty by association. The ties of Trump to white supremacy is solid.
    I would argue (not disagreeing, but maybe framed differently) that she is going after the moderate republican vote. She is saying "you can't associate yourself with this. Whatever you might think about emails or foundations, Trump's base is vile and beneath you as a human."

    Conversely, Trump is ALSO going after the moderate Republican vote. These minority pitches this week is not about getting 20% of the black vote. They know that ain't happening. It's trying to make it 'okay' for suburban, educated whites to vote for Trump.

    But what all this boils down to is this... the fight for the undecided is for Republican moderates. That means Clinton is on offense, Trump is on defense. If Trump wants to win the election, he has to take Democrats. There's no sign that is happening right now.
    Yeah he's screwed. All that shit yesterday about "Hillary is a bigot" is just insane. She had a great response for that as well...comparing her work with the Southern Poverty Law Center to Trump's federal lawsuits for race discrimination.
    She had a great response? Does this mean she actually had a press conference? I missed it. Could you send the link? I want to hear her responses to all the serious questions.
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    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    All she's doing by acknowledging the alt-right is playing the victim.

    No she's not. It's quite the smart strategy. Trump tried to spend this week pivoting and she is drawing the focus back on him and tying him to the alt-right. More importantly... and this shows the doofus move for what it is... everything that Breitbart prints or has printed now is tied to Trump. This is of course because of Bannon. Everything that happens on that website is now Trump's problem.

    It's fucking brilliant by the Clinton campaign.
    Yes it is. She is going after the semi intelligent white vote by letting them know that they could be guilty by association. The ties of Trump to white supremacy is solid.
    I would argue (not disagreeing, but maybe framed differently) that she is going after the moderate republican vote. She is saying "you can't associate yourself with this. Whatever you might think about emails or foundations, Trump's base is vile and beneath you as a human."

    Conversely, Trump is ALSO going after the moderate Republican vote. These minority pitches this week is not about getting 20% of the black vote. They know that ain't happening. It's trying to make it 'okay' for suburban, educated whites to vote for Trump.

    But what all this boils down to is this... the fight for the undecided is for Republican moderates. That means Clinton is on offense, Trump is on defense. If Trump wants to win the election, he has to take Democrats. There's no sign that is happening right now.
    Yeah he's screwed. All that shit yesterday about "Hillary is a bigot" is just insane. She had a great response for that as well...comparing her work with the Southern Poverty Law Center to Trump's federal lawsuits for race discrimination.
    She had a great response? Does this mean she actually had a press conference? I missed it. Could you send the link? I want to hear her responses to all the serious questions.
    He means the speech yesterday. But she went on Morning Joe this morning and was interviewed for 15 minutes, including questions about the foundation and emails. You can watch here.

    msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/clinton-donald-trump-has-shown-us-who-he-is-751716931953
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,956
    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    All she's doing by acknowledging the alt-right is playing the victim.

    No she's not. It's quite the smart strategy. Trump tried to spend this week pivoting and she is drawing the focus back on him and tying him to the alt-right. More importantly... and this shows the doofus move for what it is... everything that Breitbart prints or has printed now is tied to Trump. This is of course because of Bannon. Everything that happens on that website is now Trump's problem.

    It's fucking brilliant by the Clinton campaign.
    Yes it is. She is going after the semi intelligent white vote by letting them know that they could be guilty by association. The ties of Trump to white supremacy is solid.
    I would argue (not disagreeing, but maybe framed differently) that she is going after the moderate republican vote. She is saying "you can't associate yourself with this. Whatever you might think about emails or foundations, Trump's base is vile and beneath you as a human."

    Conversely, Trump is ALSO going after the moderate Republican vote. These minority pitches this week is not about getting 20% of the black vote. They know that ain't happening. It's trying to make it 'okay' for suburban, educated whites to vote for Trump.

    But what all this boils down to is this... the fight for the undecided is for Republican moderates. That means Clinton is on offense, Trump is on defense. If Trump wants to win the election, he has to take Democrats. There's no sign that is happening right now.
    Yeah he's screwed. All that shit yesterday about "Hillary is a bigot" is just insane. She had a great response for that as well...comparing her work with the Southern Poverty Law Center to Trump's federal lawsuits for race discrimination.
    She had a great response? Does this mean she actually had a press conference? I missed it. Could you send the link? I want to hear her responses to all the serious questions.
    Has there been an indictment yet? Maybe a request for depositions? Announcement of a formal investigation by a law enforcement body? A list of charges that are being readied or an announcement of said laws to have been violated? Congress couldn't accomplish the alt right's dirty work so now you want the press to do it? Which is basically character assassination to turn the electorate against her. Who in their right mind would play that game?
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    tonifig8 said:
    How convenient.
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    How convenient:

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/26/media/associated-press-hillary-clinton-investigation/index.html

    Any indictments or plea deals announced of those who paid to play? It's illegal to offer a bribe to a federal official, don't you know? Usually, those lesser ones get squeezed and cop a plea to assist in getting the big fish. So now the AP can be as trustworthy as well as, you know, Fox News?
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    Pay for access.

    I'm pretty shocked that any dignified person would support this.
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    I'm pretty shocked that any dignified person would support this.

    I honestly don't feel there's any defending this. Plain and simple, this was wrong. Talks are already occurring, however, about what changes must be made to the Clinton Foundation should Hilary Clinton become President. As well, it was Obama's administration who permitted the continuation of the Clinton Foundation in its existing state, allowing for such an obvious potential for abuse of power that it's truly egregious. To add to this, let's be clear: it wasn't "pay Clinton for access to the Secretary of State"; it was "donate to Clinton's husband's transparent and noble charitable venture for access to the Secretary of State". And of course, at the end of it all, you keep talking about people "supporting this". The fact is, many of us would feel far safer with a hawkish, elitist, untruthful President than one who, in addition to exhibiting far worse examples of, and commitment to, the above, also feels that it is his duty to present his concepts of white superiority through the humiliation and submission of peoples of questionable ancestry, the rejection of global warming as a sincere threat to our existence, the rejection of foreign trade in some half-assed plan to bring jobs back to the US (and all of the costlier and lower quality products that follow), and his BLATANT potential for conflict of interest in the businesses he supports and invests in! You'd be better off forming opinions that consider the alternative and weighs it against a reality of Clinton as POTUS (and no, "eliminate" the government is not an option today, get over it), as well as considering her experience and strategical power compared to the orangutan-like combination of cotton candy and mummified foreskin, who at this point has exhibited none of the above.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,128
    unsung said:

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    I'm pretty shocked that any dignified person would support this.

    What is shocking? When were the contributions made? Before or after the meeting? How did the other half get meetings without contributing?

    Of course there will be a special prosecutor...the GOP will continue their bullshit investigations for the next 8 years
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,800
    unsung said:
    How about... the foundation accepts money from imperfect allies and transfers that wealth to positive use.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,956
    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:
    How about... the foundation accepts money from imperfect allies and transfers that wealth to positive use.
    Some would feel better if that money went to ISIS or the Taliban or Al Qaida instead.

    I'm still waiting for formal charges. Wonder if Tom "I'm a Warrior (for Christ) Hear Me Roar" Cotton will chair the special committee to look into nefariousness?
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    They took money from the US? Damn.
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    did someone say "danger"?
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