And no one has a thing to say about the guy trying to donate food yet is straight up robbed. Figures.
What's the relevance? What is your conclusion? I suppose you think the world should be good Christians like Kim Davis right? Turn the other cheek and be charitable. WWKDD?
And no one has a thing to say about the guy trying to donate food yet is straight up robbed. Figures.
Don't know the story but if it happened, that sucks. Can't imagine how desperate one has to be to do that. I've never been in that position before. The thieves could've just been some regular everyday assholes. Whatever the reason, it sucks. But let me flip this to you since you believe in the secret hidden hand. Do you think it's possible that maybe someone did that on purpose to scare the people into NOT helping the refugees. Like maybe it's an "inside job"? Possibly?
And no one has a thing to say about the guy trying to donate food yet is straight up robbed. Figures.
What's the relevance? What is your conclusion? I suppose you think the world should be good Christians like Kim Davis right? Turn the other cheek and be charitable. WWKDD?
I made this post days ago. In reference to what I said about the lady with the banana basket. No one said anything because it made my last comment make sense.
"This just proves what I meant last time. Can't even donate before being robbed. That's what I said I hoped didn't happen to the other reporter but noooo, that would never happen, right?
Home, by Warsan Shire (Kenyan born Somali British poet)
no one leaves home unless home is the mouth of a shark you only run for the border when you see the whole city running as well your neighbors running faster than you breath bloody in their throats the boy you went to school with who kissed you dizzy behind the old tin factory is holding a gun bigger than his body you only leave home when home won’t let you stay.
no one leaves home unless home chases you fire under feet hot blood in your belly it’s not something you ever thought of doing until the blade burnt threats into your neck and even then you carried the anthem under your breath only tearing up your passport in an airport toilets sobbing as each mouthful of paper made it clear that you wouldn’t be going back.
you have to understand, that no one puts their children in a boat unless the water is safer than the land no one burns their palms under trains beneath carriages no one spends days and nights in the stomach of a truck feeding on newspaper unless the miles travelled means something more than journey. no one crawls under fences no one wants to be beaten pitied
no one chooses refugee camps or strip searches where your body is left aching or prison, because prison is safer than a city of fire and one prison guard in the night is better than a truckload of men who look like your father no one could take it no one could stomach it no one skin would be tough enough
the go home blacks refugees dirty immigrants asylum seekers sucking our country dry niggers with their hands out they smell strange savage messed up their country and now they want to mess ours up how do the words the dirty looks roll off your backs maybe because the blow is softer than a limb torn off
or the words are more tender than fourteen men between your legs or the insults are easier to swallow than rubble than bone than your child body in pieces. i want to go home, but home is the mouth of a shark home is the barrel of the gun and no one would leave home unless home chased you to the shore unless home told you to quicken your legs leave your clothes behind crawl through the desert wade through the oceans drown save be hunger beg forget pride your survival is more important
no one leaves home until home is a sweaty voice in your ear saying- leave, run away from me now i dont know what i’ve become but i know that anywhere is safer than here
I made this post days ago. In reference to what I said about the lady with the banana basket. No one said anything because it made my last comment make sense.
"This just proves what I meant last time. Can't even donate before being robbed. That's what I said I hoped didn't happen to the other reporter but noooo, that would never happen, right?
So, as someone who claims to take their Christianity very seriously, What do you think should be done? Help, because Jesus said so, or not help because they are evil Muslims who will rob you?
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chime - thank you for posting that. It affected me.
Kyle, I assume your finger pointing comment is in regards to mine... Let me be clear: you've always been able to point a finger to explain a situation, AS WELL as how it pertains to how a people or government should or shouldn't behave. My issue is with people who leave this as a point of discussion, and don't actually relate it to what should be done. If recognizing fault is a premise to be used to justify an action or inaction, and that action or inaction is mentioned, then it's absolutely worth posting. It's America's fault is a poor statement without a "therefore" at the end.
Hey Ben, thanks for the clarification. I hadn't really talked about solutions when you posted that reply, so it applied to me as well...i didn't address my post to you because I agreed with you and didn't want it to appear I was challenging you - I was just looking to expand (and gawdamn did I! Haha) on my previous thoughts. I get tired of being accused of hating the U.S by small minded nationalists. I love a lot of people and places south of the border, and as much as some people may hate to admit it; culturally we are as similar as any two nations In the world. When I criticize the U.S., I am almost always criticizing Canada and our traditional allies as well. People need to keep that in mind.
For every story of someone getting robbed by the refugees there is a story of someone helping grateful refugees. That's just humanity. There's terrible people everywhere and in every situation. Also there's bound to be some trust issues on the refugees side too.
And no one has a thing to say about the guy trying to donate food yet is straight up robbed. Figures.
Don't know the story but if it happened, that sucks. Can't imagine how desperate one has to be to do that. I've never been in that position before. The thieves could've just been some regular everyday assholes. Whatever the reason, it sucks. But let me flip this to you since you believe in the secret hidden hand. Do you think it's possible that maybe someone did that on purpose to scare the people into NOT helping the refugees. Like maybe it's an "inside job"? Possibly?
probably a james o'keefe special.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
And no one has a thing to say about the guy trying to donate food yet is straight up robbed. Figures.
Don't know the story but if it happened, that sucks. Can't imagine how desperate one has to be to do that. I've never been in that position before. The thieves could've just been some regular everyday assholes. Whatever the reason, it sucks. But let me flip this to you since you believe in the secret hidden hand. Do you think it's possible that maybe someone did that on purpose to scare the people into NOT helping the refugees. Like maybe it's an "inside job"? Possibly?
probably a james o'keefe special.
They were children, btw, from what i saw in the video. The robbers were excited children in a fucked up situation.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
You talk all this shit about the new world order and bohemian grove. Beat them back? That's real Christian of you. Jesus DIDNT die for your sins. He'd be embarrassed about how you feel about "beating them back until they leave."
I don't know why I keep opening this thread. All it does is upset me. The US should be taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees. You know how big this country is? We got sooooooooooooooo much space. The only problem is we can't just dump them in a field in Kansas because they need support, education, etc. and putting them in a homogenous community isn't going to help anyone. Personally, I hope some of them come to Queens. I want to try Syrian food.
I don't know why I keep opening this thread. All it does is upset me. The US should be taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees. You know how big this country is? We got sooooooooooooooo much space. The only problem is we can't just dump them in a field in Kansas because they need support, education, etc. and putting them in a homogenous community isn't going to help anyone. Personally, I hope some of them come to Queens. I want to try Syrian food.
I agree more with this train of thought. Even if we could get them here, where would you put them? Downtown Chicago? In Kansas? What about Detroit?
I don't know why I keep opening this thread. All it does is upset me. The US should be taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees. You know how big this country is? We got sooooooooooooooo much space. The only problem is we can't just dump them in a field in Kansas because they need support, education, etc. and putting them in a homogenous community isn't going to help anyone. Personally, I hope some of them come to Queens. I want to try Syrian food.
I agree more with this train of thought. Even if we could get them here, where would you put them? Downtown Chicago? In Kansas? What about Detroit?
They could be located all over. All it would take is some administration and money on the part of the government, and they could locate them where they could find jobs (the government could even help with that - offer initiatives for companies to hire them perhaps), and cooperate with the local governments to locate affordable housing for them. It would take man power - an actual targeted effort - but it's entirely possible. There just needs to be the will to do it.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I don't know why I keep opening this thread. All it does is upset me. The US should be taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees. You know how big this country is? We got sooooooooooooooo much space. The only problem is we can't just dump them in a field in Kansas because they need support, education, etc. and putting them in a homogenous community isn't going to help anyone. Personally, I hope some of them come to Queens. I want to try Syrian food.
I agree more with this train of thought. Even if we could get them here, where would you put them? Downtown Chicago? In Kansas? What about Detroit?
I would avoid Kansas (by Kansas I literally just mean empty space not actually Kansas) because it makes me think of the Indian Reservations and we all know how well those went. I don't want to advocate for a refugee community a la the res or even like Amish/Mennonite communities. I support integration, but more in the vein of what I'm used to - meaning I look forward to some portion of the city becoming a "little Syria" the way we have Chinatown, Little Italy, Little Egypt, etc. If you take every major and secondary city and put a few thousand in each one it'll even out pretty well. I like what Gimme was posting about St. Louis. I think that people could do demonstrations like that to convince politicians that we welcome them here, and go based on that. So like STL, NY, Chicago, LA, but then also like Austin and Minneapolis and like Knoxville or Nashville or whatever. Detroit I think should take in a buttload along with a big ole bag of federal money for doing so. The problem is I don't want to advocate dumping them in a situation where they fall into a culture of poverty. So for cities like Detroit and Baltimore which are struggling, they should get a bunch of money from the feds and use it for capital improvements plus taking in refugees. So they take in refugees, they get money to fix some schools. The refugees get jobs in the construction (or whatever) and then the kids get to go to a fixed up school. The roads get fixed up. The parks get fixed up. Jobs get created violence and crimes go down. That's kind of how I'm thinking
Obviously I havent done a lot of thinking but that's like a baseline.
I don't know why I keep opening this thread. All it does is upset me. The US should be taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees. You know how big this country is? We got sooooooooooooooo much space. The only problem is we can't just dump them in a field in Kansas because they need support, education, etc. and putting them in a homogenous community isn't going to help anyone. Personally, I hope some of them come to Queens. I want to try Syrian food.
I agree more with this train of thought. Even if we could get them here, where would you put them? Downtown Chicago? In Kansas? What about Detroit?
They could be located all over. All it would take is some administration and money on the part of the government, and they could locate them where they could find jobs (the government could even help with that - offer initiatives for companies to hire them perhaps), and cooperate with the local governments to locate affordable housing for them. It would take man power - an actual targeted effort - but it's entirely possible. There just needs to be the will to do it.
How convenient. What's the national unemployment rate? Let's just bring in 10,000 refugees and give them jobs that unemployed Americans could have.
How very Christ-like of you. So you use Christianity to deny rights to people, even though Christ said nothing about homosexual relations, and you say "beat them back" even though Christ said pages of material on charity for the people who suffer such as these people are suffering. And then you whine that people are insulting your religion?
If this isn't trolling it is lunacy.
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I don't know why I keep opening this thread. All it does is upset me. The US should be taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees. You know how big this country is? We got sooooooooooooooo much space. The only problem is we can't just dump them in a field in Kansas because they need support, education, etc. and putting them in a homogenous community isn't going to help anyone. Personally, I hope some of them come to Queens. I want to try Syrian food.
I agree more with this train of thought. Even if we could get them here, where would you put them? Downtown Chicago? In Kansas? What about Detroit?
They could be located all over. All it would take is some administration and money on the part of the government, and they could locate them where they could find jobs (the government could even help with that - offer initiatives for companies to hire them perhaps), and cooperate with the local governments to locate affordable housing for them. It would take man power - an actual targeted effort - but it's entirely possible. There just needs to be the will to do it.
How convenient. What's the national unemployment rate? Let's just bring in 10,000 refugees and give them jobs that unemployed Americans could have.
I think doing something about all the jobs being sent overseas is a bigger issue in that context, no? Yeah, obviously there are people in the US who could also be given jobs. I'm just saying what could be done. The other option is to throw more money at it, and simply let them fend for themselves while living on government handouts. Either way, it would be a humanitarian aid initiative, and yeah, that's separate from what's going on with other Americans. Whatcha gonna do? Anyway, it wouldn't be 10,000 jobs. It would much less, and then spaces in schools would need to be found for all the kids.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
And how much would it cost to get the refugees here, house them, give them health care, and make sure they are fed? You're talking about hundreds of millions. You don't think that money could be better spent
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I suppose you think the world should be good Christians like Kim Davis right?
Turn the other cheek and be charitable. WWKDD?
Just a guess, but judging from the "figures" part, I feel like JAG is trying to demonstrate that our compassion is misguided??
"This just proves what I meant last time. Can't even donate before being robbed. That's what I said I hoped didn't happen to the other reporter but noooo, that would never happen, right?
https://m.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/3kbeht/man_tries_to_donate_food_but_bag_gets_stolen/. "
no one leaves home unless
home is the mouth of a shark
you only run for the border
when you see the whole city running as well
your neighbors running faster than you
breath bloody in their throats
the boy you went to school with
who kissed you dizzy behind the old tin factory
is holding a gun bigger than his body
you only leave home
when home won’t let you stay.
no one leaves home unless home chases you
fire under feet
hot blood in your belly
it’s not something you ever thought of doing
until the blade burnt threats into
your neck
and even then you carried the anthem under
your breath
only tearing up your passport in an airport toilets
sobbing as each mouthful of paper
made it clear that you wouldn’t be going back.
you have to understand,
that no one puts their children in a boat
unless the water is safer than the land
no one burns their palms
under trains
beneath carriages
no one spends days and nights in the stomach of a truck
feeding on newspaper unless the miles travelled
means something more than journey.
no one crawls under fences
no one wants to be beaten
pitied
no one chooses refugee camps
or strip searches where your
body is left aching
or prison,
because prison is safer
than a city of fire
and one prison guard
in the night
is better than a truckload
of men who look like your father
no one could take it
no one could stomach it
no one skin would be tough enough
the
go home blacks
refugees
dirty immigrants
asylum seekers
sucking our country dry
niggers with their hands out
they smell strange
savage
messed up their country and now they want
to mess ours up
how do the words
the dirty looks
roll off your backs
maybe because the blow is softer
than a limb torn off
or the words are more tender
than fourteen men between
your legs
or the insults are easier
to swallow
than rubble
than bone
than your child body
in pieces.
i want to go home,
but home is the mouth of a shark
home is the barrel of the gun
and no one would leave home
unless home chased you to the shore
unless home told you
to quicken your legs
leave your clothes behind
crawl through the desert
wade through the oceans
drown
save
be hunger
beg
forget pride
your survival is more important
no one leaves home until home is a sweaty voice in your ear
saying-
leave,
run away from me now
i dont know what i’ve become
but i know that anywhere
is safer than here
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2015/09/04/no-one-leaves-home-unless-home-mouth-shark
Help, because Jesus said so, or not help because they are evil Muslims who will rob you?
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/14/st-louis-missouri-syrian-refugees
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
They will match your donation until they reach 10 million
https://onetoday.google.com/page/refugeerelief?c=CA
Everyone will hate me for saying that, but when it's your town you just may agree.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/17/hungary-refugees-ban-ki-moon-eu-serbia
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=ab4_1442363414
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Obviously I havent done a lot of thinking but that's like a baseline.
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So you use Christianity to deny rights to people, even though Christ said nothing about homosexual relations, and you say "beat them back" even though Christ said pages of material on charity for the people who suffer such as these people are suffering.
And then you whine that people are insulting your religion?
If this isn't trolling it is lunacy.
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