Refugee crisis

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    when I get home I'll watch it.

    Godfather.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,460
    John Oliver destroyed Faux News with that one....once again.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    dignin said:
    I truly am curious to see what GF has to say about it.
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    ^^^
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    o.k so I listened to it.....what ? do I seem to be the guy with the key to the boarder gate's ? don't come after me because I disagree with a mass crossing of immigrants, if you think I am heartless
    then that's on you, my friends that know me know I would help anybody I could but what will happen to that country when they all have left ? who is running that country ? why are they leaving ? maybe the bigger issue should be looked at and dealt with instead of putting a band-aid on the problem pretending that accepting these people will cure the real problem.

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    o.k so I listened to it.....what ? do I seem to be the guy with the key to the boarder gate's ? don't come after me because I disagree with a mass crossing of immigrants, if you think I am heartless
    then that's on you, my friends that know me know I would help anybody I could but what will happen to that country when they all have left ? who is running that country ? why are they leaving ? maybe the bigger issue should be looked at and dealt with instead of putting a band-aid on the problem pretending that accepting these people will cure the real problem.

    Godfather.

    Cognitive dissonance right here ladies and gentlemen.

    Also, aren't you a little concerned with what FOX news is feeding you?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    no more than you and your source's, it's all the same info with a different presentation so if you don't like the delivery change the channel right ?

    I've seen these refugees on various channels marching and at one point stealing from people trying to help them or even throwing rocks at busses and cars, they have been filmed using cell phones most are wearing decent clothing then I've seen refugees on other news sources from other third world countries near naked and so thin and malnourished the ones that haven't died look near death and non of them had cell phones, where's your bleeding heart for them ? you can go into any big city and find a homeless population and homeless who have died of exposer or hunger so like I said maybe it's time to look at the cause and motive and stop watching propaganda television like the one posted earlier...and you guy's thought FOX was bad....it's all the same crap just flavored differently.

    Godfather.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Oliver uses a hypothetical upside and selective stories to argue against a hypothetical downside and selective stories. That's just good science.

    At least we stabilized the region and pulled our troops out to make good on a campaign promise.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Jason P said:

    Oliver uses a hypothetical upside and selective stories to argue against a hypothetical downside and selective stories. That's just good science.

    At least we stabilized the region and pulled our troops out to make good on a campaign promise.

    So you are for few billions of tax dollars and thousand American lives and several thousand injured to stabilize?
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Blows my mind fox gets away with the blatant propaganda. Used a clip from 2010 and presented it as current to raise fear. Why do we as a society allow this to happen. Hell when I watched clip assumed it was the immigrants on way to new home countries. But no.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Jason P said:

    Oliver uses a hypothetical upside and selective stories to argue against a hypothetical downside and selective stories. That's just good science.

    At least we stabilized the region and pulled our troops out to make good on a campaign promise.

    The science isn't hypothetical. As I proved pages ago.......ignore it if you want.

    And how about we move past the "it's Obamas fault" ....and, correct me if I'm wrong here, but you would be one of the first to be pissed at the assumption that this is Americas fault, based on your past posts.....and let's try and help these people.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    no more than you and your source's, it's all the same info with a different presentation so if you don't like the delivery change the channel right ?

    I've seen these refugees on various channels marching and at one point stealing from people trying to help them or even throwing rocks at busses and cars, they have been filmed using cell phones most are wearing decent clothing then I've seen refugees on other news sources from other third world countries near naked and so thin and malnourished the ones that haven't died look near death and non of them had cell phones, where's your bleeding heart for them ? you can go into any big city and find a homeless population and homeless who have died of exposer or hunger so like I said maybe it's time to look at the cause and motive and stop watching propaganda television like the one posted earlier...and you guy's thought FOX was bad....it's all the same crap just flavored differently.

    Godfather.

    Either you didn't watch the Oliver clip or your willfully ignorant. I'm going to guess the latter.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    dignin said:

    no more than you and your source's, it's all the same info with a different presentation so if you don't like the delivery change the channel right ?

    I've seen these refugees on various channels marching and at one point stealing from people trying to help them or even throwing rocks at busses and cars, they have been filmed using cell phones most are wearing decent clothing then I've seen refugees on other news sources from other third world countries near naked and so thin and malnourished the ones that haven't died look near death and non of them had cell phones, where's your bleeding heart for them ? you can go into any big city and find a homeless population and homeless who have died of exposer or hunger so like I said maybe it's time to look at the cause and motive and stop watching propaganda television like the one posted earlier...and you guy's thought FOX was bad....it's all the same crap just flavored differently.

    Godfather.

    Either you didn't watch the Oliver clip or your willfully ignorant. I'm going to guess the latter.
    so please explain then.

    Godfather.

  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    dignin said:

    no more than you and your source's, it's all the same info with a different presentation so if you don't like the delivery change the channel right ?

    I've seen these refugees on various channels marching and at one point stealing from people trying to help them or even throwing rocks at busses and cars, they have been filmed using cell phones most are wearing decent clothing then I've seen refugees on other news sources from other third world countries near naked and so thin and malnourished the ones that haven't died look near death and non of them had cell phones, where's your bleeding heart for them ? you can go into any big city and find a homeless population and homeless who have died of exposer or hunger so like I said maybe it's time to look at the cause and motive and stop watching propaganda television like the one posted earlier...and you guy's thought FOX was bad....it's all the same crap just flavored differently.

    Godfather.

    Either you didn't watch the Oliver clip or your willfully ignorant. I'm going to guess the latter.
    so please explain then.

    Godfather.

    Explain what exactly? I thought it was very clear in the Oliver clip....for one, how FOX Nwes clearly manipulates the truth. Appealing to their racist base.

    Ask me specific questions and I will answer.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    I was curious how GF would react to the video.... and the reaction is denial. That's not very interesting.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    I was curious how GF would react to the video.... and the reaction is denial. That's not very interesting.

    all the reactions to the video are interesting to me , we all see a different and hear different interpretations, to believe there is only one correct interpretation closes the door to individual answers and idea's, you know that I usually don't follow the main stream idea's among train members so knowing that why would you expect anything different from me ?...if you did.


    Godfather.

  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    GF, they used a videos from 2010 implying it was video of current refugees. They used false information to create fear. I get that all news is skewed but this is bad. Really bad.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited September 2015

    PJ_Soul said:

    I was curious how GF would react to the video.... and the reaction is denial. That's not very interesting.

    all the reactions to the video are interesting to me , we all see a different and hear different interpretations, to believe there is only one correct interpretation closes the door to individual answers and idea's, you know that I usually don't follow the main stream idea's among train members so knowing that why would you expect anything different from me ?...if you did.


    Godfather.

    I don't think there is only one interpretation, but denial is the worst possible one. I actually did expect more from you.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited September 2015
    callen said:

    GF, they used a videos from 2010 implying it was video of current refugees. They used false information to create fear. I get that all news is skewed but this is bad. Really bad.

    Fox News does that kind of thing ALL the time. And Fox News watchers just don't seem to care. It's incredible. And amazingly fucking stupid.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    If there's demand someone will fill it. Fox fills craving for tribalism.


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