The Debate

hedonist

If we're gonna say he has no business on the air (and who's to say that? Let 'em all speak their mind freely - wouldn't you rather they expose themselves for who they are rather than being scuttled into silence?), then there's a long-ass list of others in all walks of politics and/or entertainment and/or etc. who should be on that list.

gimmesometruth27

hedonist said:

If we're gonna say he has no business on the air (and who's to say that? Let 'em all speak their mind freely - wouldn't you rather they expose themselves for who they are rather than being scuttled into silence?), then there's a long-ass list of others in all walks of politics and/or entertainment and/or etc. who should be on that list.

most of them are not speaking their mind freely. they are all reverting back to the same old script:

god
defund planned parenthood
reverse all executive orders on day one
scuttle iran deal on day one
overturn roe v wade
demonize obama
talk about how terrible the economy is when clearly it is better than it was,
etc
etc
etc

the only one talking their mind is trump. that is why he can't do anything besides insult people and name call.

hedonist

But even if bottled language, so what?

No matter the impetus, I'd rather hear all of this than not. This is the time for people to expose themselves for who they are (or how they're trying to appear).

Lip service isn't relegated to party, by the way

Godfather.

josevolution said:

So it's ok for this clown to go around calling folks names , degrading women & insulting whole races ei Spanish ...

what did he say to insult a whole race ? and what makes his comments so different from the comments made here on the train or even in public ?........and that's why people are supporting Trump,
he's saying things we all want to say or are thinking and to be honest with you he hasn't crossed the line yet....yet, but he probably will, if he does become president he could be hailed as the next Teddy Rosevelt...brash and tough, just not as smart as Teddy LOL !!!!

his run for president should worry people who don't take him seriously, what if he won ? he could really shake things up in a bad way. I hope people see that.

Godfather.

Godfather.

"Real difficulties can be overcome; it is only the imaginary ones that are unconquerable." - Theodore Vail

rgambs

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

So it's ok for this clown to go around calling folks names , degrading women & insulting whole races ei Spanish ...

what did he say to insult a whole race ? and what makes his comments so different from the comments made here on the train or even in public ?........and that's why people are supporting Trump,
he's saying things we all want to say or are thinking and to be honest with you he hasn't crossed the line yet....yet, but he probably will, if he does become president he could be hailed as the next Teddy Rosevelt...brash and tough, just not as smart as Teddy LOL !!!!

his run for president should worry people who don't take him seriously, what if he won ? he could really shake things up in a bad way. I hope people see that.

Godfather.

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

So it's ok for this clown to go around calling folks names , degrading women & insulting whole races ei Spanish ...

what did he say to insult a whole race ? and what makes his comments so different from the comments made here on the train or even in public ?........and that's why people are supporting Trump,
he's saying things we all want to say or are thinking and to be honest with you he hasn't crossed the line yet....yet, but he probably will, if he does become president he could be hailed as the next Teddy Rosevelt...brash and tough, just not as smart as Teddy LOL !!!!

his run for president should worry people who don't take him seriously, what if he won ? he could really shake things up in a bad way. I hope people see that.

Godfather.

You keep saying that over and over, but it simply isn't true.
He is saying what less than a quarter of people think, and if you look at the stats on who favors him it doesn't look good at all. It's certainly not a well educated and successful base.

Gern Blansten

Yeah he is saying what a lot of ignorant racists think but beyond that he's a laughing stock. That's why most of us are laughing at him.

I sincerely hope he gets the nomination or splits to a third party ticket. Both scenarios will guarantee a Democrat in the white house.

Godfather.

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah he is saying what a lot of ignorant racists think but beyond that he's a laughing stock. That's why most of us are laughing at him.

I sincerely hope he gets the nomination or splits to a third party ticket. Both scenarios will guarantee a Democrat in the white house.

sure......a dem ? havent we had enough of dem's and repub's ? both of those parties have fucked us to death, so yea lets get another dem in office and he can finish running this country into the ground.....where obama left off.

Godfather.

gimmesometruth27

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah he is saying what a lot of ignorant racists think but beyond that he's a laughing stock. That's why most of us are laughing at him.

I sincerely hope he gets the nomination or splits to a third party ticket. Both scenarios will guarantee a Democrat in the white house.

sure......a dem ? havent we had enough of dem's and repub's ? both of those parties have fucked us to death, so yea lets get another dem in office and he can finish running this country into the ground.....where obama left off.

Godfather.

but obama has not run the country into the ground. don't you see that?

republicans are misinformed on this for one of two reasons. 1. they are brainwashed by right wing media or 2. they realize that obama has been the president that republicans wish george w bush had been.

imagine what he could have done if he had a congress that had at least an inkling of attempting to support him in any way.

rr165892

gimmesometruth27 said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah he is saying what a lot of ignorant racists think but beyond that he's a laughing stock. That's why most of us are laughing at him.

I sincerely hope he gets the nomination or splits to a third party ticket. Both scenarios will guarantee a Democrat in the white house.

sure......a dem ? havent we had enough of dem's and repub's ? both of those parties have fucked us to death, so yea lets get another dem in office and he can finish running this country into the ground.....where obama left off.

Godfather.

but obama has not run the country into the ground. don't you see that?

republicans are misinformed on this for one of two reasons. 1. they are brainwashed by right wing media or 2. they realize that obama has been the president that republicans wish george w bush had been.

imagine what he could have done if he had a congress that had at least an inkling of attempting to support him in any way.

Gimme,I saw a preview for what looks like a very intense new movie that comes out this fall about Bengazi.Its not going to be a glowing recommendation to the Administrations handling of this blunder.

gimmesometruth27

rr165892 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah he is saying what a lot of ignorant racists think but beyond that he's a laughing stock. That's why most of us are laughing at him.

I sincerely hope he gets the nomination or splits to a third party ticket. Both scenarios will guarantee a Democrat in the white house.

sure......a dem ? havent we had enough of dem's and repub's ? both of those parties have fucked us to death, so yea lets get another dem in office and he can finish running this country into the ground.....where obama left off.

Godfather.

but obama has not run the country into the ground. don't you see that?

republicans are misinformed on this for one of two reasons. 1. they are brainwashed by right wing media or 2. they realize that obama has been the president that republicans wish george w bush had been.

imagine what he could have done if he had a congress that had at least an inkling of attempting to support him in any way.

Gimme,I saw a preview for what looks like a very intense new movie that comes out this fall about Bengazi.Its not going to be a glowing recommendation to the Administrations handling of this blunder.

if benghazi is the worst thing to happen, the biggest scandal, the biggest coverup, the biggest conspiracy, it would still have been a productive 8 years.

the american public could not give two shits about benghazi.

you want to know what americans care about?

jobs. money for food. health insurance. gender equity. racial equity. common sense gun control. unencumbered women's rights to health care. peace. the polls overwhelmingly show this. these are all things the republican party has failed to get behind at best, at worst outright voted against it.

instead they hammer away at how terrible obama is and how we should go to war over benghazi and the administration will not do it. fortunately the administration has been vindicated at every turn.

callen

rr165892 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah he is saying what a lot of ignorant racists think but beyond that he's a laughing stock. That's why most of us are laughing at him.

I sincerely hope he gets the nomination or splits to a third party ticket. Both scenarios will guarantee a Democrat in the white house.

sure......a dem ? havent we had enough of dem's and repub's ? both of those parties have fucked us to death, so yea lets get another dem in office and he can finish running this country into the ground.....where obama left off.

Godfather.

but obama has not run the country into the ground. don't you see that?

republicans are misinformed on this for one of two reasons. 1. they are brainwashed by right wing media or 2. they realize that obama has been the president that republicans wish george w bush had been.

imagine what he could have done if he had a congress that had at least an inkling of attempting to support him in any way.

Gimme,I saw a preview for what looks like a very intense new movie that comes out this fall about Bengazi.Its not going to be a glowing recommendation to the Administrations handling of this blunder.

I don't get the Blunder. Some people attacked US embasy and some Americans died. That's it. You can second guess security levels but could do that for any event where people died. Please explain the blunder.

Last-12-Exit

callen said:

rr165892 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah he is saying what a lot of ignorant racists think but beyond that he's a laughing stock. That's why most of us are laughing at him.

I sincerely hope he gets the nomination or splits to a third party ticket. Both scenarios will guarantee a Democrat in the white house.

sure......a dem ? havent we had enough of dem's and repub's ? both of those parties have fucked us to death, so yea lets get another dem in office and he can finish running this country into the ground.....where obama left off.

Godfather.

but obama has not run the country into the ground. don't you see that?

republicans are misinformed on this for one of two reasons. 1. they are brainwashed by right wing media or 2. they realize that obama has been the president that republicans wish george w bush had been.

imagine what he could have done if he had a congress that had at least an inkling of attempting to support him in any way.

Gimme,I saw a preview for what looks like a very intense new movie that comes out this fall about Bengazi.Its not going to be a glowing recommendation to the Administrations handling of this blunder.

I don't get the Blunder. Some people attacked US embasy and some Americans died. That's it. You can second guess security levels but could do that for any event where people died. Please explain the blunder.

If I'm not mistaken, those people that died were warned of an impending attack and asked the government for backup support. That request was denied. I believe that is the blunder.

callen

Last-12-Exit said:

callen said:

rr165892 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah he is saying what a lot of ignorant racists think but beyond that he's a laughing stock. That's why most of us are laughing at him.

I sincerely hope he gets the nomination or splits to a third party ticket. Both scenarios will guarantee a Democrat in the white house.

sure......a dem ? havent we had enough of dem's and repub's ? both of those parties have fucked us to death, so yea lets get another dem in office and he can finish running this country into the ground.....where obama left off.

Godfather.

but obama has not run the country into the ground. don't you see that?

republicans are misinformed on this for one of two reasons. 1. they are brainwashed by right wing media or 2. they realize that obama has been the president that republicans wish george w bush had been.

imagine what he could have done if he had a congress that had at least an inkling of attempting to support him in any way.

Gimme,I saw a preview for what looks like a very intense new movie that comes out this fall about Bengazi.Its not going to be a glowing recommendation to the Administrations handling of this blunder.

I don't get the Blunder. Some people attacked US embasy and some Americans died. That's it. You can second guess security levels but could do that for any event where people died. Please explain the blunder.

If I'm not mistaken, those people that died were warned of an impending attack and asked the government for backup support. That request was denied. I believe that is the blunder.

Okay could be and there are mistakes that are made. Working in these areas is not an exact science. Lots of intelligence. Very dangerous. Where does this come down to this big conspiracy? Obama and Clinton? Not asking you to defend this position Scott asking in general and to the proponents of this big scandal.

callen

And looking at American service people put in harms way and ultimate death count, compare Bush and outrage seems incredulous. How many Americans were killed in bush's tenure?

All a red herring and as pointed out earlier and to rally those that need reason to justify their positions. Nothing else.

This movie another swift boat feature. And that was disgusting yet many ate it up to satisfy their realities.

Last-12-Exit

The simple fact that neither Obama or Clinton has admitted to any knowledge of an increased threat. And leaving them there to die without sending any kind of support at all is why people are pissed. Someone should be held accountable for that.

callen

Last-12-Exit said:

The simple fact that neither Obama or Clinton has admitted to any knowledge of an increased threat. And leaving them there to die without sending any kind of support at all is why people are pissed. Someone should be held accountable for that.

Last-12-Exit said:

The simple fact that neither Obama or Clinton has admitted to any knowledge of an increased threat. And leaving them there to die without sending any kind of support at all is why people are pissed. Someone should be held accountable for that.

Increased threat=Leaving them to die. Really?

Increased threat =imminent attack? Really?

How many times has the threat increased? Over the whole world where we have US personnel.

Again it was a dangerous place. Sure in hindsight things could of been done. There was no malice.

callen

Hey maybe something will come out. Maybe I don't have all the facts. But at this point all propaganda. Sorry for derail. Know we had a thread.

Last-12-Exit

callen said:

Last-12-Exit said:

The simple fact that neither Obama or Clinton has admitted to any knowledge of an increased threat. And leaving them there to die without sending any kind of support at all is why people are pissed. Someone should be held accountable for that.

Last-12-Exit said:

The simple fact that neither Obama or Clinton has admitted to any knowledge of an increased threat. And leaving them there to die without sending any kind of support at all is why people are pissed. Someone should be held accountable for that.

Increased threat=Leaving them to die. Really?

Increased threat =imminent attack? Really?

How many times has the threat increased? Over the whole world where we have US personnel.

Again it was a dangerous place. Sure in hindsight things could of been done. There was no malice.

You're saying I'm not correct in this assessment?

callen

Last-12-Exit said:

callen said:

Last-12-Exit said:

The simple fact that neither Obama or Clinton has admitted to any knowledge of an increased threat. And leaving them there to die without sending any kind of support at all is why people are pissed. Someone should be held accountable for that.

Last-12-Exit said:

The simple fact that neither Obama or Clinton has admitted to any knowledge of an increased threat. And leaving them there to die without sending any kind of support at all is why people are pissed. Someone should be held accountable for that.

Increased threat=Leaving them to die. Really?

Increased threat =imminent attack? Really?

How many times has the threat increased? Over the whole world where we have US personnel.

Again it was a dangerous place. Sure in hindsight things could of been done. There was no malice.

You're saying I'm not correct in this assessment?

I'm saying I've seen no evidence of willful misconduct as listed in my previous post.