The Debate

josevolution

None of'em impressed me enough that i would place my vote for them , TRUMP is an embarrassment doesn't have an ounce of diplomacy in his brain .....

PJ_Soul

JimmyV said:

The only two who came across to me as being "presidential" were Christie and Bush. The others seemed either not ready, not qualified, crazy, or some combination of the three.

I don't find Bush presidential at all. He's a boring nerd IMO. He comes off as kind of weak or meek I think, just in his mannerisms, which isn't a good look for a president.

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JimmyV said:

brianlux said:

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:

We will never get rid of the IRS. The IRS collects the taxes that we need to function. It doesn't make tax law....that's Congress. Any time a politician says that I cringe.

Can we get rid of Congress? Repeal and replace.

I've often thought we need to find a way to have a congress that really works the way it is supposed to- for the people, not for the 1% who get what they want buy buying favors.

The other change I would make (and will never happen) would be to reduce the power of the president. His or her main job should be to present the ideas that congress puts forth and just look good as a representative of who we are. I've never understood giving so much power to one person. A country is not a sports team.

I'd like to see the presidency consist of a single 6-year term. Don't worry about reelection, just do the job.

I've been ranting about this for 10 years.

rr165892

As A JEB guy,I will say his swag was a little flat,but I live in his state and know what he really does,so I'm not worried.He takes care of buisness.I caution some of you that already think he is his brother,he is not.

Kasich did well I thought.Stable,reasonable,honest....that's a good start.

Dr Carson- has no chance but is a very bright guy with some interesting ideas,maybe a good surgeon general?

Trump- as entertaining as he is,let's be real here.He has no chance.But his honesty is refreshing.

Paul- ehhhhhh

Huckabee- double ehhhhh

Christie- "if I'm president the pot party is over" .Thank you big fella that says it all. Idiot

Rubio- also a FL guy.He does have the youth thing and held his own.This might be one to watch,maybe in a VP slot if not.He def upped his stock.

Walker= dork

PJ_Soul

4 years is definitely way too short when half of it is taken up by focused campaigning.

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3 things could help this country get back on track.
1) campaign finance. Candidates can only spend $2 million (or whatever number) per election. If you blow it all during the primaries, oh well.

2) term limits for EVERYONE. Being in Congress shouldn't be a full time job. Having the president serving one 6 year term would allow him/her to serve and not worry about reelection and lame duck status.

3)eliminate the party system. Candidates run based on their own beliefs and raise their own money.

PJ_Soul

The financial support/blackmail/bribery/corruption problem is enormous. There should definitely be a cap, and some much more restrictive rules about who can donate funds..... or something. Our governments should not be owned by the wealthy the way they are, and the only thing thst could stop that is regulation. Would be complicated, but i can't think of any other way to try and stop it (of course, there is no way to stop it - we're doomed IMO).

rgambs

PJ_Soul said:

The financial support/blackmail/bribery/corruption problem is enormous. There should definitely be a cap, and some much more restrictive rules about who can donate funds..... or something. Our governments should not be owned by the wealthy the way they are, and the only thing thst could stop that is regulation. Would be complicated, but i can't think of any other way to try and stop it (of course, there is no way to stop it - we're doomed IMO).

I have always pictured a YouTube style government website that provides a platform for candidates that avoids the trappings of paying for commercial advertising. Strict limits on campaign spending with reasonable exemptions for traveling. I would love to see more beatin feet the old fashioned way and less attack ads on TV.

josevolution

PJ_Soul said:

The financial support/blackmail/bribery/corruption problem is enormous. There should definitely be a cap, and some much more restrictive rules about who can donate funds..... or something. Our governments should not be owned by the wealthy the way they are, and the only thing thst could stop that is regulation. Would be complicated, but i can't think of any other way to try and stop it (of course, there is no way to stop it - we're doomed IMO).

Exactly but the GOP is totally against any kind of regulations they oppose any regulations at all so let the rich own the government , like Paul called out Trump HIS BEEN BUYING HIS WAY TO THE TOP HIS WHOLE LIFE .......

brianlux

JimmyV said:

brianlux said:

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:

We will never get rid of the IRS. The IRS collects the taxes that we need to function. It doesn't make tax law....that's Congress. Any time a politician says that I cringe.

Can we get rid of Congress? Repeal and replace.

I've often thought we need to find a way to have a congress that really works the way it is supposed to- for the people, not for the 1% who get what they want buy buying favors.

The other change I would make (and will never happen) would be to reduce the power of the president. His or her main job should be to present the ideas that congress puts forth and just look good as a representative of who we are. I've never understood giving so much power to one person. A country is not a sports team.

I'd like to see the presidency consist of a single 6-year term. Don't worry about reelection, just do the job.

Great idea, Jimmy. I would go for that.

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It's already started. Trump is going go talk himself out of the race. He has been booted from a conservative event tonight for some stupid shit he said about Megan Kelly. He said "she was bleeding out of her eyes. She was bleeding out of wherever." I admit, it doesn't soumd very bad. But it's just the start. He hasn't learned that he can't say whatever he wants.

Gern Blansten

Last-12-Exit said:

It's already started. Trump is going go talk himself out of the race. He has been booted from a conservative event tonight for some stupid shit he said about Megan Kelly. He said "she was bleeding out of her eyes. She was bleeding out of wherever." I admit, it doesn't soumd very bad. But it's just the start. He hasn't learned that he can't say whatever he wants.

It doesn't sound very bad? A presidential candidate suggesting that a news anchor who grilled him only did so because she was on her period?

That's extremely disrespectful, sexist, and disgusting

josevolution

Last-12-Exit said:

It's already started. Trump is going go talk himself out of the race. He has been booted from a conservative event tonight for some stupid shit he said about Megan Kelly. He said "she was bleeding out of her eyes. She was bleeding out of wherever." I admit, it doesn't soumd very bad. But it's just the start. He hasn't learned that he can't say whatever he wants.

He basically called women pigs is that what a presidential candidate should be about you migh as well have Morton bigmouth Downey as your president , I'm not saying you would vote for Trump but he is making a mockery of the GOP party ....

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Gern Blansten said:

Last-12-Exit said:

It's already started. Trump is going go talk himself out of the race. He has been booted from a conservative event tonight for some stupid shit he said about Megan Kelly. He said "she was bleeding out of her eyes. She was bleeding out of wherever." I admit, it doesn't soumd very bad. But it's just the start. He hasn't learned that he can't say whatever he wants.

It doesn't sound very bad? A presidential candidate suggesting that a news anchor who grilled him only did so because she was on her period?

That's extremely disrespectful, sexist, and disgusting

I am going to assume you heard the story before you read it here. Or did you come up with that based on that quote alone without the context of why he said that? That's why I said it doesn't sound that bad. I agree with you and that's why I posted it here.

Godfather.

well you know the old saying......anything that can bleed for a week and not die has got to be pretty tough.

Godfather.

Shawshank

They will do whatever they have to in order to eliminate him. Including twisting his words and infecting their own presumed meaning. He's fucked either way.

I know that all the "experts" think he's going to destroy his candidacy on his own, and that may be true, but for now people are perplexed at how he's breaking the rules and he's still appealing to voters (latest reports say his popularity is even rising among Dem voters).

My wife says if stays high in the polls he'll probably be assasinated. She was exaggerating, but I can almost see that happening.

rr165892

He still,good or bad is finding a way to dominate the media news cycle and headlines.Maybe a strategic play?pretty smart I think.

Godfather.

it's still a real possibalty to see him win, I have my doubts but still the possibality is very real...people are loving this guy if some like it or not.

Godfather.

Last-12-Exit

I haven't seen his numbers rise. If anything, his numbers have stalled. Especially since the debate.

josevolution

At some point his going to have to get down to real issues and how to lead a government ...