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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Gambo is stuck in the 70s =)

    Man, I don't like Ted Cruz at all.
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Wow, lol.

    Christie, Rand, Kasich take round one. Bush is a bumbling fool just like his brother. Trump is funny and insane.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    hedonist said:

    Gambo is stuck in the 70s =)

    Man, I don't like Ted Cruz at all.

    Yeah I didn't get to live it for real so I do my best to recreate it :smiley:

    And yeah, he rubs me the wrong way no matter what he's saying. Rubio and Trump too.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Kasich has the most to gain here, and I feel like he will make the most of that opportunity.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I kinda like Rubio.

    And agree with CH1 about Trump!

    Also, I don't have the rules handy so I'm just getting high and watching :dizzy:

  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    My impression is that they are asking contentious questions because they know they have captured a very large audience and they want to keep the hits coming.
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  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    edited August 2015
    What a wild ride so far. Bush was struggling, did a little better with his answers on education.
    Trump still cracking me up. He about made my head explode with his shot out about the Iraq War.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Gotta say that I've agreed with at least one point from most of them.
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Well, enough of this. Go Bernie!
    Goodnight.

  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,545
    Not that I don't agree with any of them on some issues but man I can't stand them at all ...
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,895
    It put Carson on my radar
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    He's been on my radar for a bit, mookey. I like the guy; good mind.
  • EnkiduEnkidu Posts: 2,996
    That was entertaining. In a weird way (since I'm not a Republican). I thought Kasich was the most impressive and Rubio also good. Huckabee is like your crazy grandfather you want to keep locked in the basement. And Jeb - wow, he looked like he didn't want to be there. And such a bore. Just my two cents.
  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,895
    Jeb looked like he was expecting questions on his brother and immigration, then practiced his answers all week beforehand.
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,895
    Jeb looked like he was expecting questions on his brother and immigration, then practiced his answers all week beforehand.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Yeah, some felt scripted (say X, then pause for effect). Just answer, just speak, let it roll on out and PR be damned.

    Enkidu, my Ohioan husband really digs Kasich, seems like a smart and unpolished man (in a good way, as in honest and no drama).

    I surprised myself by watching in full, and glad I did.

    Next year-plus shall be interesting, at the least.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    My impression is that they are asking contentious questions because they know they have captured a very large audience and they want to keep the hits coming.

    I was at a union meeting last night and missed the "debate" (might have been just as crazy) but I would think that everybody would be very careful not to piss off a crowd that for the most part is there too see/hear Trump...they will burry him no doubt but they will have to be smart about it...and work together to do it.

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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    I like rand Paul. I wish he was an independent and wasn't against gays and abortion.
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    I do agree with trump on his assessment of Megan Kelly, overrated.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Last-12-Exit said:

    I like rand Paul. I wish he was an independent and wasn't against gays and abortion.

    Yeah feel same.
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    callen said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    I like rand Paul. I wish he was an independent and wasn't against gays and abortion.

    Yeah feel same.
    He was 100% correct when he was going off on Chris Christie. I like his stance on getting rid of the irs.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    We will never get rid of the IRS. The IRS collects the taxes that we need to function. It doesn't make tax law....that's Congress. Any time a politician says that I cringe.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    The only two who came across to me as being "presidential" were Christie and Bush. The others seemed either not ready, not qualified, crazy, or some combination of the three.

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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    Gern Blansten said:

    We will never get rid of the IRS. The IRS collects the taxes that we need to function. It doesn't make tax law....that's Congress. Any time a politician says that I cringe.

    Can we get rid of Congress? Repeal and replace.

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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    The irs could definitely be disbanded. It would take an overhaul to the tax system. Starting with a fair tax. But it could be done.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    Last-12-Exit said:

    The irs could definitely be disbanded. It would take an overhaul to the tax system. Starting with a fair tax. But it could be done.

    so who exactly collects this fair tax? Who goes knocking on the door when someone owes it but doesn't pay?

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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    Gern Blansten said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    The irs could definitely be disbanded. It would take an overhaul to the tax system. Starting with a fair tax. But it could be done.

    so who exactly collects this fair tax? Who goes knocking on the door when someone owes it but doesn't pay?

    The government. Just as they did before the irs.

     The Constitution endowed the Congress with the power to "…lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States." Ever on guard against the power of the central government to eclipse that of the states, the collection of the taxes was left as the responsibility of the State governments.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Last-12-Exit said:

    The irs could definitely be disbanded. It would take an overhaul to the tax system. Starting with a fair tax. But it could be done.

    and that would be awesome !

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    JimmyV said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    We will never get rid of the IRS. The IRS collects the taxes that we need to function. It doesn't make tax law....that's Congress. Any time a politician says that I cringe.

    Can we get rid of Congress? Repeal and replace.

    I've often thought we need to find a way to have a congress that really works the way it is supposed to- for the people, not for the 1% who get what they want buy buying favors.

    The other change I would make (and will never happen) would be to reduce the power of the president. His or her main job should be to present the ideas that congress puts forth and just look good as a representative of who we are. I've never understood giving so much power to one person. A country is not a sports team.

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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    brianlux said:

    JimmyV said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    We will never get rid of the IRS. The IRS collects the taxes that we need to function. It doesn't make tax law....that's Congress. Any time a politician says that I cringe.

    Can we get rid of Congress? Repeal and replace.

    I've often thought we need to find a way to have a congress that really works the way it is supposed to- for the people, not for the 1% who get what they want buy buying favors.

    The other change I would make (and will never happen) would be to reduce the power of the president. His or her main job should be to present the ideas that congress puts forth and just look good as a representative of who we are. I've never understood giving so much power to one person. A country is not a sports team.

    I'd like to see the presidency consist of a single 6-year term. Don't worry about reelection, just do the job.

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