All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.
I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.
It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.
Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.
Do you have any knowledge of human trafficking? We dont know anything other than minor females. So you cant really make that judgement as to their motives if they had any. While possible they acted of their own violition the likelyhood is greater they were indoctrinated into such a life.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.
I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.
It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.
Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.
Do you have any knowledge of human trafficking? We dont know anything other than minor females. So you cant really make that judgement as to their motives if they had any. While possible they acted of their own violition the likelyhood is greater they were indoctrinated into such a life.
That is true, but that is totally irrelevant anyway. They are minors, so consent isn't possible under the law. But yes, many many many young girls are driven or lured into prostitution through manipulation, illegal actions, forced addiction, sexual abuse, etc etc etc. I am sickened by anyone who is ready to blame 13 - 17 year old girls rather than the adults who pay to rape them.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
You fkers are again piling it on. Instead of "worst post ever" which it clearly isn't debate the topics. This isn't middle school.
And you're lending support to a poster that is suggesting these underage girls were culpable to crime a man is guilty of..
If a girl that's 17 prostitutes herself without being forced then yeah they helped facilitate. Does it make Jared less guilty no.
Would like to point out just couple hundred years ago 17 Yo men and women were breeding. Was the natural cycle. 17 year olds aren't innocent. I wasn't innocent at 17 and know many of you ladies weren't either.
So yeah I get what just a girl was saying.
Wonder age of loosing ones virginity is these days and what it was in 1700's.
callen, people became "adults" at a much younger age in that time, and didn't have the longevity we have in this era.
I was 23, by the way. My choice, despite or more likely because of my own history. If women choose to enter that arena earlier, I hope they're responsible about it. I also hope the virginity of 13, 14, 15 year olds, whatever age, isn't given to a 37-yr-old who gets off on looking at children and fucking teenage girls.
I took issue with the sarcastic tone applied in how the term "innocent little girls" was previously used. Struck me as harsh and unnecessary.
We do have longevity but could argue about when we mature and when humans instinctually start becoming viewed at sexually.. We are mere animals as much as we like to think otherwise. Do think 18 is good and many don't develop mentally till much later.
And again on double standard. Women looking at hot stud 18 yo okay but 40 yo man looking at hot 18 yo not.
Why are you talking about 18 year olds? They are not minors. And I never heard of a man getting persecuted for looking at 18 year olds. Also, I think there is just as much stigma around 40 year old women looking at 18 year olds as there is for men, if not more. I have no clue why you would think otherwise. I feel like you're just talking out of your ass now.
As for being mere animals.... Okay, so I guess just going around murdering people is okay too? Raping, murdering, pillaging. It's all just human nature, right?
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.
I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.
It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.
Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.
Do you have any knowledge of human trafficking? We dont know anything other than minor females. So you cant really make that judgement as to their motives if they had any. While possible they acted of their own violition the likelyhood is greater they were indoctrinated into such a life.
That is true, but that is totally irrelevant anyway. They are minors, so consent isn't possible under the law. But yes, many many many young girls are driven or lured into prostitution through manipulation, illegal actions, forced addiction, sexual abuse, etc etc etc. I am sickened by anyone who is ready to blame 13 - 17 year old girls rather than the adults who pay to rape them.
17 is age of consent in NY. Legally he gets a pass on the sex itself but not on the for money part.
Morally wrong on both parts. Legally only on one specific to the 17yr old.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in. As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well? callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.
I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.
It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.
Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.
Do you have any knowledge of human trafficking? We dont know anything other than minor females. So you cant really make that judgement as to their motives if they had any. While possible they acted of their own violition the likelyhood is greater they were indoctrinated into such a life.
That is true, but that is totally irrelevant anyway. They are minors, so consent isn't possible under the law. But yes, many many many young girls are driven or lured into prostitution through manipulation, illegal actions, forced addiction, sexual abuse, etc etc etc. I am sickened by anyone who is ready to blame 13 - 17 year old girls rather than the adults who pay to rape them.
17 is age of consent in NY. Legally he gets a pass on the sex itself but not on the for money part.
Morally wrong on both parts. Legally only on one specific to the 17yr old.
You know they weren't all 17, right? There were younger girls than that.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
You fkers are again piling it on. Instead of "worst post ever" which it clearly isn't debate the topics. This isn't middle school.
And you're lending support to a poster that is suggesting these underage girls were culpable to crime a man is guilty of..
If a girl that's 17 prostitutes herself without being forced then yeah they helped facilitate. Does it make Jared less guilty no.
Would like to point out just couple hundred years ago 17 Yo men and women were breeding. Was the natural cycle. 17 year olds aren't innocent. I wasn't innocent at 17 and know many of you ladies weren't either.
So yeah I get what just a girl was saying.
Wonder age of loosing ones virginity is these days and what it was in 1700's.
So after a girl loses her virginity... she's fair game? Is this what you're implying? It seems to be.
All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.
I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.
It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.
Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.
Do you have any knowledge of human trafficking? We dont know anything other than minor females. So you cant really make that judgement as to their motives if they had any. While possible they acted of their own violition the likelyhood is greater they were indoctrinated into such a life.
That is true, but that is totally irrelevant anyway. They are minors, so consent isn't possible under the law. But yes, many many many young girls are driven or lured into prostitution through manipulation, illegal actions, forced addiction, sexual abuse, etc etc etc. I am sickened by anyone who is ready to blame 13 - 17 year old girls rather than the adults who pay to rape them.
17 is age of consent in NY. Legally he gets a pass on the sex itself but not on the for money part.
Morally wrong on both parts. Legally only on one specific to the 17yr old.
You know they weren't all 17, right? There were younger girls than that.
Yes I do. But the posting suggesting rape for the 17 yr old are main focus. It ain't so. Seems to me to be a mix of moral outrage (should be of course) and what the law says. The then 16 yr old and younger ones for sure deserve the maximum the law allow IF NY decides to persue. No rape laws statutory or otherwise on the books federally. He pled to federal charges.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Why are you talking about 18 year olds? They are not minors. And I never heard of a man getting persecuted for looking at 18 year olds. Also, I think there is just as much stigma around 40 year old women looking at 18 year olds as there is for men, if not more. I have no clue why you would think otherwise. I feel like you're just talking out of your ass now.
As for being mere animals.... Okay, so I guess just going around murdering people is okay too? Raping, murdering, pillaging. It's all just human nature, right?
Now your doing the TB stretch. Discussing sexuality not murder. Mentioned 18 due to previous conversations on 17 year old.
All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.
I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.
It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.
Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.
Do you have any knowledge of human trafficking? We dont know anything other than minor females. So you cant really make that judgement as to their motives if they had any. While possible they acted of their own violition the likelyhood is greater they were indoctrinated into such a life.
That is true, but that is totally irrelevant anyway. They are minors, so consent isn't possible under the law. But yes, many many many young girls are driven or lured into prostitution through manipulation, illegal actions, forced addiction, sexual abuse, etc etc etc. I am sickened by anyone who is ready to blame 13 - 17 year old girls rather than the adults who pay to rape them.
17 is age of consent in NY. Legally he gets a pass on the sex itself but not on the for money part.
Morally wrong on both parts. Legally only on one specific to the 17yr old.
You know they weren't all 17, right? There were younger girls than that.
Yes we all know Jared is a POS and many younger. Discussing Just a Girl being ridiculed on 17 yo comment. .
I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in. As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well? callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments like what you just did. . Pretty simple concept no? Go reread the posts in question. Also two wrongs do t make a right but alas.......
I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in. As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well? callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments like what you just did. . Pretty simple concept no? Go reread the posts in question. Also two wrongs do t make a right but alas.......
But it really was a contender for worst post ever. I don't see the problem.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in. As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well? callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments like what you just did. . Pretty simple concept no? Go reread the posts in question. Also two wrongs do t make a right but alas.......
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in. As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well? callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments. Pretty simple concept no?
Jared has a serious problem. His partner in crime, the head of his charity, was busted a year ago and he couldn't part with video evidence of underage girls his buddy compiled. This is a millionaire who lucked himself into one of the greatest gigs ever and he couldn't find the strength to dispose of an SD card that would one day become his hangman's noose.
If it wasn't for one of the five rarest dogs in the U.S., he would have probably gotten away free. He took precautions and probably destroyed all his hard drives but figured no on would be able to find a SD card, so he kept hold of his first hand produced child porn.
Any sane person would have smashed that SD card with a hammer, set it on fire, and jettisoned it in a sack of rocks to the deepest spot in Lake Superior.
But he couldn't do it because he is a sick man and decided to roll the dice.
I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in. As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well? callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments like what you just did. . Pretty simple concept no? Go reread the posts in question. Also two wrongs do t make a right but alas.......
But it really was a contender for worst post ever. I don't see the problem.
Oh come on. I've read some head scratchers. Hell I'd nominate few posts on this thread.
You fkers are again piling it on. Instead of "worst post ever" which it clearly isn't debate the topics. This isn't middle school.
And you're lending support to a poster that is suggesting these underage girls were culpable to crime a man is guilty of..
If a girl that's 17 prostitutes herself without being forced then yeah they helped facilitate. Does it make Jared less guilty no.
Would like to point out just couple hundred years ago 17 Yo men and women were breeding. Was the natural cycle. 17 year olds aren't innocent. I wasn't innocent at 17 and know many of you ladies weren't either.
So yeah I get what just a girl was saying.
Wonder age of loosing ones virginity is these days and what it was in 1700's.
So after a girl loses her virginity... she's fair game? Is this what you're implying? It seems to be.
Huh?
Yes. Exactly. Huh? Wtf are you trying to say?
Ha. Human sexuality. NOT what the heck you thought.
Why are you talking about 18 year olds? They are not minors. And I never heard of a man getting persecuted for looking at 18 year olds. Also, I think there is just as much stigma around 40 year old women looking at 18 year olds as there is for men, if not more. I have no clue why you would think otherwise. I feel like you're just talking out of your ass now.
As for being mere animals.... Okay, so I guess just going around murdering people is okay too? Raping, murdering, pillaging. It's all just human nature, right?
Now your doing the TB stretch. Discussing sexuality not murder. Mentioned 18 due to previous conversations on 17 year old.
I'm once again assuming stuff from your cryptic posts. TB is me? I do the 'stretch thing'? You don't? You don't chime in with silly comments like 'kill em all' when discourse is on display?
Go on. Keep digging a hole for yourself right beside JAG's. Nobody appreciates describing the double standard that exists by justifying statutory rape with 'we're human', 'it was okay in medieval times', or 'cougars get away with it so why can't ex fat guys that eat at Subway?'.
Could understand the need of the feds for being mum but I hope this "escort" service he reportedly used is being seen to by the feds. Shit NY state too.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Why are you talking about 18 year olds? They are not minors. And I never heard of a man getting persecuted for looking at 18 year olds. Also, I think there is just as much stigma around 40 year old women looking at 18 year olds as there is for men, if not more. I have no clue why you would think otherwise. I feel like you're just talking out of your ass now.
As for being mere animals.... Okay, so I guess just going around murdering people is okay too? Raping, murdering, pillaging. It's all just human nature, right?
Now your doing the TB stretch. Discussing sexuality not murder. Mentioned 18 due to previous conversations on 17 year old.
I'm once again assuming stuff from your cryptic posts. TB is me? I do the 'stretch thing'? You don't? You don't chime in with silly comments like 'kill em all' when discourse is on display?
Go on. Keep digging a hole for yourself right beside JAG's. Nobody appreciates describing the double standard that exists by justifying statutory rape with 'we're human', 'it was okay in medieval times', or 'cougars get away with it so why can't ex fat guys that eat at Subway?'.
Yes TB is you and yes you stretched and hardly feel I'm in a hole. Now I may be an a hole. Ha.
Why are you talking about 18 year olds? They are not minors. And I never heard of a man getting persecuted for looking at 18 year olds. Also, I think there is just as much stigma around 40 year old women looking at 18 year olds as there is for men, if not more. I have no clue why you would think otherwise. I feel like you're just talking out of your ass now.
As for being mere animals.... Okay, so I guess just going around murdering people is okay too? Raping, murdering, pillaging. It's all just human nature, right?
Now your doing the TB stretch. Discussing sexuality not murder. Mentioned 18 due to previous conversations on 17 year old.
I'm once again assuming stuff from your cryptic posts. TB is me? I do the 'stretch thing'? You don't? You don't chime in with silly comments like 'kill em all' when discourse is on display?
Go on. Keep digging a hole for yourself right beside JAG's. Nobody appreciates describing the double standard that exists by justifying statutory rape with 'we're human', 'it was okay in medieval times', or 'cougars get away with it so why can't ex fat guys that eat at Subway?'.
Yes TB is you and yes you stretched and hardly feel I'm in a hole. Now I may be an a hole. Ha.
Not sure about that, but I am sure that calling people out on tactics you employ yourself is... well... whatever you want to call it. I'm referring to the 'name calling' (to which Drowned spoke to) as well as the 'old exaggeration ploy' you claimed to be above (which we know isn't the case).
Could understand the need of the feds for being mum but I hope this "escort" service he reportedly used is being seen to by the feds. Shit NY state too.
Yes. That's what I was referring to in my earlier response to your link. These young women were exploited by multiple people.
Could understand the need of the feds for being mum but I hope this "escort" service he reportedly used is being seen to by the feds. Shit NY state too.
Yes. That's what I was referring to in my earlier response to your link. These young women were exploited by multiple people.
Didnt catch that. Threads gone off the rails. As usual.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Could understand the need of the feds for being mum but I hope this "escort" service he reportedly used is being seen to by the feds. Shit NY state too.
Yes. That's what I was referring to in my earlier response to your link. These young women were exploited by multiple people.
Didnt catch that. Threads gone off the rails. As usual.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Could understand the need of the feds for being mum but I hope this "escort" service he reportedly used is being seen to by the feds. Shit NY state too.
Yes. That's what I was referring to in my earlier response to your link. These young women were exploited by multiple people.
Didnt catch that. Threads gone off the rails. As usual.
I would not be surprised if there is a good amount of cooperation on Fogle's part included in his deal that isn't being flashed in the media. There almost certainly has to be an ongoing investigation.
I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in. As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well? callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments like what you just did. . Pretty simple concept no? Go reread the posts in question. Also two wrongs do t make a right but alas.......
But it really was a contender for worst post ever. I don't see the problem.
Oh come on. I've read some head scratchers. Hell I'd nominate few posts on this thread.
Lol. No, really. A post about how child victims of pedophiles carry blame is definitely a contender.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
But yes, many many many young girls are driven or lured into prostitution through manipulation, illegal actions, forced addiction, sexual abuse, etc etc etc. I am sickened by anyone who is ready to blame 13 - 17 year old girls rather than the adults who pay to rape them.
And again on double standard. Women looking at hot stud 18 yo okay but 40 yo man looking at hot 18 yo not.
As for being mere animals.... Okay, so I guess just going around murdering people is okay too? Raping, murdering, pillaging. It's all just human nature, right?
Morally wrong on both parts. Legally only on one specific to the 17yr old.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well?
callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
Seems to me to be a mix of moral outrage (should be of course) and what the law says.
The then 16 yr old and younger ones for sure deserve the maximum the law allow IF NY decides to persue. No rape laws statutory or otherwise on the books federally. He pled to federal charges.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
If it wasn't for one of the five rarest dogs in the U.S., he would have probably gotten away free. He took precautions and probably destroyed all his hard drives but figured no on would be able to find a SD card, so he kept hold of his first hand produced child porn.
Any sane person would have smashed that SD card with a hammer, set it on fire, and jettisoned it in a sack of rocks to the deepest spot in Lake Superior.
But he couldn't do it because he is a sick man and decided to roll the dice.
Why is anyone defending this guy?
Go on. Keep digging a hole for yourself right beside JAG's. Nobody appreciates describing the double standard that exists by justifying statutory rape with 'we're human', 'it was okay in medieval times', or 'cougars get away with it so why can't ex fat guys that eat at Subway?'.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14