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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524


    Bullying^^

    And more ganging up once it starts. You guys are great at proving me wrong.

    I didn't suggest any of the things you suggested I did. I simply said that those girls knew what they were doing. Happens every day, wether you choose to believe it or not.

    Look at this years big brother. A 33 year old dating a 23 year old boy. Back it up 6 years and suddenly we have a pedo on our hands. But now it's cute. That's what I am referring to, the social acceptance of it, the "way to go bro!" When a teenage boy has sex with a teacher. When it's a man to a girl, we call for murder. When it's a girl to a man, it's a cougar.

    Hope now you guys can see my point.

    Responding is not bullying...nor "ganging up".

    Could you please elaborate on the bolded part above? It sounds like one could take any relationship with an age differential (I'm almost eight years older than my husband - oh my!), back it up X years and suddenly it changes? Of course. But why? That line of thinking makes no sense.
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    hedonist said:


    Bullying^^

    And more ganging up once it starts. You guys are great at proving me wrong.

    I didn't suggest any of the things you suggested I did. I simply said that those girls knew what they were doing. Happens every day, wether you choose to believe it or not.

    Look at this years big brother. A 33 year old dating a 23 year old boy. Back it up 6 years and suddenly we have a pedo on our hands. But now it's cute. That's what I am referring to, the social acceptance of it, the "way to go bro!" When a teenage boy has sex with a teacher. When it's a man to a girl, we call for murder. When it's a girl to a man, it's a cougar.

    Hope now you guys can see my point.

    Responding is not bullying...nor "ganging up".

    Could you please elaborate on the bolded part above? It sounds like one could take any relationship with an age differential (I'm almost eight years older than my husband - oh my!), back it up X years and suddenly it changes? Of course. But why? That line of thinking makes no sense.
    It makes as much sense as saying 'back it up a few centuries where child brides are the norm'. Geezuz... I guess we could also say 'back it up to this country where child brides are the norm' too. That's messed up, eh? Countries being centuries behind in basic morality?
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,562

    PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    What's sad is when a woman does it they are cougar but when a man does it he is a creeper. Having known someone wrongfully accused and later acquitted, I can inform you on how much these accusations can hurt an innocent person.

    We sure are fast to call for violence in this thread. Everyone seems so anti violence until it's morally acceptable then kill the fucker. Great mentality to have guys.

    Let's just stone Jared to death. Those innocent little girls had zero idea they were using him for money and later exposing him. No, they are just too young to realize what they are doing. Give me a break

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    Bullying^^

    And more ganging up once it starts. You guys are great at proving me wrong.

    I didn't suggest any of the things you suggested I did. I simply said that those girls knew what they were doing. Happens every day, wether you choose to believe it or not.

    Look at this years big brother. A 33 year old dating a 23 year old boy. Back it up 6 years and suddenly we have a pedo on our hands. But now it's cute. That's what I am referring to, the social acceptance of it, the "way to go bro!" When a teenage boy has sex with a teacher. When it's a man to a girl, we call for murder. When it's a girl to a man, it's a cougar.

    Hope now you guys can see my point.

    Hey, I just liked his post, which is simply his opinion of your post. If you call that bullying, that's your problem.
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    Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Woman: 33
    Man: 23

    Man:28
    Girl: 14


    If you think there is a comparison here, well you should have your head examined.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    ^ 37 year old dude
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    Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    Is a scum bag
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    Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Jason P said:

    ^ 37 year old dude

    Yea, either way, fucking gross
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    A rare sniffer dog turned out to be Jared's undoing ...

    (NEWSER) – There are only five dogs in America trained to sniff out electronic devices, and one of them played a major role in Jared Fogle's downfall. Bear, a 2-year-old black Labrador, was able to sniff out a thumb drive that human investigators missed during a search of the former Subway spokesman's home last month, reports NBC News, which describes Bear as a "porn-sniffing dog." He can detect tiny memory cards easily and was trained with methods associated with "any other K-9 training, like with the narcotics or explosives or anything," his trainer tells WISH-TV. "You get the dog used to the odor and reward them as they indicate on it."

    usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/08/26/how-rare-sniffer-dog-jared-fogles-undoing/32394585/
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    All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.

    I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.

    It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.

    Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.
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    JUST A GIRLJUST A GIRL Posts: 372
    edited August 2015
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    What's sad is when a woman does it they are cougar but when a man does it he is a creeper. Having known someone wrongfully accused and later acquitted, I can inform you on how much these accusations can hurt an innocent person.

    We sure are fast to call for violence in this thread. Everyone seems so anti violence until it's morally acceptable then kill the fucker. Great mentality to have guys.

    Let's just stone Jared to death. Those innocent little girls had zero idea they were using him for money and later exposing him. No, they are just too young to realize what they are doing. Give me a break

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    Bullying^^

    And more ganging up once it starts. You guys are great at proving me wrong.

    I didn't suggest any of the things you suggested I did. I simply said that those girls knew what they were doing. Happens every day, wether you choose to believe it or not.

    Look at this years big brother. A 33 year old dating a 23 year old boy. Back it up 6 years and suddenly we have a pedo on our hands. But now it's cute. That's what I am referring to, the social acceptance of it, the "way to go bro!" When a teenage boy has sex with a teacher. When it's a man to a girl, we call for murder. When it's a girl to a man, it's a cougar.

    Hope now you guys can see my point.

    Hey, I just liked his post, which is simply his opinion of your post. If you call that bullying, that's your problem.
    His opinion of my post? All he did was quote me and say worst post ever. And instead of replying you ganged up with him to bully me by high fiving in your reply. I said this before, but once someone is jumped on here everyone else piles on. Same thing bullies do. You do it to me and godfather. It's not cool.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,562
    edited August 2015
    But cougars are not women who enjoy having sex with children, which is the topic of conversation here. I don't understand why you even brought it up.
    You seem to be having some really disturbing trouble distinguishing between children and adults.
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    All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.

    I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.

    It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.

    Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.

    Because at age 13 a person is not equipped to make appropriate relationship decisions. At age 23, a person is more capable. One's a child and one is an adult.

    You should stop. This isn't going well for you at all.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,562
    edited August 2015

    All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.

    I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.

    It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.

    Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.

    Because at age 13 a person is not equipped to make appropriate relationship decisions. At age 23, a person is more capable. One's a child and one is an adult.

    You should stop. This isn't going well for you at all.
    It really isn't. I'm frankly shocked that anyone could say that child prostitutes aren't victims, or that a grown man is somehow less culpable because the children he fucked took money for the pleasure. I mean, holy fuck. image Not to mention the SIX year olds in the porn he was watching.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,550
    edited August 2015

    All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.

    I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.

    It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.

    Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.

    Because at age 13 a person is not equipped to make appropriate relationship decisions. At age 23, a person is more capable. One's a child and one is an adult.

    You should stop. This isn't going well for you at all.
    Stop bullying her :bawling:




    :joker:
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    Jason P said:

    A rare sniffer dog turned out to be Jared's undoing ...

    (NEWSER) – There are only five dogs in America trained to sniff out electronic devices, and one of them played a major role in Jared Fogle's downfall. Bear, a 2-year-old black Labrador, was able to sniff out a thumb drive that human investigators missed during a search of the former Subway spokesman's home last month, reports NBC News, which describes Bear as a "porn-sniffing dog." He can detect tiny memory cards easily and was trained with methods associated with "any other K-9 training, like with the narcotics or explosives or anything," his trainer tells WISH-TV. "You get the dog used to the odor and reward them as they indicate on it."

    usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/08/26/how-rare-sniffer-dog-jared-fogles-undoing/32394585/

    First thing that came to mind -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22_5xulHSkw
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    hedonist said:

    Jason P said:

    A rare sniffer dog turned out to be Jared's undoing ...

    (NEWSER) – There are only five dogs in America trained to sniff out electronic devices, and one of them played a major role in Jared Fogle's downfall. Bear, a 2-year-old black Labrador, was able to sniff out a thumb drive that human investigators missed during a search of the former Subway spokesman's home last month, reports NBC News, which describes Bear as a "porn-sniffing dog." He can detect tiny memory cards easily and was trained with methods associated with "any other K-9 training, like with the narcotics or explosives or anything," his trainer tells WISH-TV. "You get the dog used to the odor and reward them as they indicate on it."

    usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/08/26/how-rare-sniffer-dog-jared-fogles-undoing/32394585/

    First thing that came to mind -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22_5xulHSkw
    Fargo.

    Awesome.
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.

    I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.

    It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.

    Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.

    This is the root of what is wrong with your post. It absolutely is about age. On one hand you give an example of two consenting adults. You then show that same age difference, but with an underage person. One is legal, one is illegal. That is precisely about age.
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015

    What's sad is when a woman does it they are cougar but when a man does it he is a creeper. Having known someone wrongfully accused and later acquitted, I can inform you on how much these accusations can hurt an innocent person.

    We sure are fast to call for violence in this thread. Everyone seems so anti violence until it's morally acceptable then kill the fucker. Great mentality to have guys.

    Let's just stone Jared to death. Those innocent little girls had zero idea they were using him for money and later exposing him. No, they are just too young to realize what they are doing. Give me a break

    Don't care about anything you just said.
    I hope a violent death comes his way.
    Have a nice day.
    We didn't make it one whole post without proving my point. An instant call for violence and death from such a passive, non violent group.

    .
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    jeffbr said:

    One is legal, one is illegal. That is precisely about age.

    Correct.

    This isn't 'Nam. There are rules.
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    callencallen Posts: 6,388

    PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    What's sad is when a woman does it they are cougar but when a man does it he is a creeper. Having known someone wrongfully accused and later acquitted, I can inform you on how much these accusations can hurt an innocent person.

    We sure are fast to call for violence in this thread. Everyone seems so anti violence until it's morally acceptable then kill the fucker. Great mentality to have guys.

    Let's just stone Jared to death. Those innocent little girls had zero idea they were using him for money and later exposing him. No, they are just too young to realize what they are doing. Give me a break

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    Bullying^^

    And more ganging up once it starts. You guys are great at proving me wrong.

    I didn't suggest any of the things you suggested I did. I simply said that those girls knew what they were doing. Happens every day, wether you choose to believe it or not.

    Look at this years big brother. A 33 year old dating a 23 year old boy. Back it up 6 years and suddenly we have a pedo on our hands. But now it's cute. That's what I am referring to, the social acceptance of it, the "way to go bro!" When a teenage boy has sex with a teacher. When it's a man to a girl, we call for murder. When it's a girl to a man, it's a cougar.

    Hope now you guys can see my point.

    See your point.
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    callencallen Posts: 6,388
    You fkers are again piling it on. Instead of "worst post ever" which it clearly isn't debate the topics. This isn't middle school.
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    Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited August 2015
    callen said:

    You fkers are again piling it on. Instead of "worst post ever" which it clearly isn't debate the topics. This isn't middle school.

    And you're lending support to a poster that is suggesting these underage girls were culpable to crime a man is guilty of..
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    That's the sticking point for me as well, Thirty...one of them, anyway. How the acts of a sick asshole devolved into cougars and comparing vastly different circumstances (and ages) makes no sense.
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    chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157

    What's sad is when a woman does it they are cougar but when a man does it he is a creeper. Having known someone wrongfully accused and later acquitted, I can inform you on how much these accusations can hurt an innocent person.

    We sure are fast to call for violence in this thread. Everyone seems so anti violence until it's morally acceptable then kill the fucker. Great mentality to have guys.

    Let's just stone Jared to death. Those innocent little girls had zero idea they were using him for money and later exposing him. No, they are just too young to realize what they are doing. Give me a break

    Don't care about anything you just said.
    I hope a violent death comes his way.
    Have a nice day.
    We didn't make it one whole post without proving my point. An instant call for violence and death from such a passive, non violent group.

    well i'm not passive & i like violence put upon those who deserve it. im very old fashion when it comes down to it. i like it when monsters (like child predators) get owned & even die. i lose zero sleep. as a matter of fact, i'd bet i sleep better knowing they're not breathing

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    callencallen Posts: 6,388

    callen said:

    You fkers are again piling it on. Instead of "worst post ever" which it clearly isn't debate the topics. This isn't middle school.

    And you're lending support to a poster that is suggesting these underage girls were culpable to crime a man is guilty of..
    If a girl that's 17 prostitutes herself without being forced then yeah they helped facilitate. Does it make Jared less guilty no.

    Would like to point out just couple hundred years ago 17 Yo men and women were breeding. Was the natural cycle. 17 year olds aren't innocent. I wasn't innocent at 17 and know many of you ladies weren't either.

    So yeah I get what just a girl was saying.

    Wonder age of loosing ones virginity is these days and what it was in 1700's.

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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    callen said:

    callen said:

    You fkers are again piling it on. Instead of "worst post ever" which it clearly isn't debate the topics. This isn't middle school.

    And you're lending support to a poster that is suggesting these underage girls were culpable to crime a man is guilty of..
    If a girl that's 17 prostitutes herself without being forced then yeah they helped facilitate. Does it make Jared less guilty no.

    Would like to point out just couple hundred years ago 17 Yo men and women were breeding. Was the natural cycle. 17 year olds aren't innocent. I wasn't innocent at 17 and know many of you ladies weren't either.

    So yeah I get what just a girl was saying.

    Wonder age of loosing ones virginity is these days and what it was in 1700's.

    callen, people became "adults" at a much younger age in that time, and didn't have the longevity we have in this era.

    I was 23, by the way. My choice, despite or more likely because of my own history. If women choose to enter that arena earlier, I hope they're responsible about it. I also hope the virginity of 13, 14, 15 year olds, whatever age, isn't given to a 37-yr-old who gets off on looking at children and fucking teenage girls.

    I took issue with the sarcastic tone applied in how the term "innocent little girls" was previously used. Struck me as harsh and unnecessary.
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    callen said:

    callen said:

    You fkers are again piling it on. Instead of "worst post ever" which it clearly isn't debate the topics. This isn't middle school.

    And you're lending support to a poster that is suggesting these underage girls were culpable to crime a man is guilty of..
    If a girl that's 17 prostitutes herself without being forced then yeah they helped facilitate. Does it make Jared less guilty no.

    Would like to point out just couple hundred years ago 17 Yo men and women were breeding. Was the natural cycle. 17 year olds aren't innocent. I wasn't innocent at 17 and know many of you ladies weren't either.

    So yeah I get what just a girl was saying.

    Wonder age of loosing ones virginity is these days and what it was in 1700's.

    So after a girl loses her virginity... she's fair game? Is this what you're implying? It seems to be.
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    bottom line...he's a freak and should be delt with.

    Godfather.
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    callencallen Posts: 6,388

    callen said:

    callen said:

    You fkers are again piling it on. Instead of "worst post ever" which it clearly isn't debate the topics. This isn't middle school.

    And you're lending support to a poster that is suggesting these underage girls were culpable to crime a man is guilty of..
    If a girl that's 17 prostitutes herself without being forced then yeah they helped facilitate. Does it make Jared less guilty no.

    Would like to point out just couple hundred years ago 17 Yo men and women were breeding. Was the natural cycle. 17 year olds aren't innocent. I wasn't innocent at 17 and know many of you ladies weren't either.

    So yeah I get what just a girl was saying.

    Wonder age of loosing ones virginity is these days and what it was in 1700's.

    So after a girl loses her virginity... she's fair game? Is this what you're implying? It seems to be.
    Huh?
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,562
    callen said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    What's sad is when a woman does it they are cougar but when a man does it he is a creeper. Having known someone wrongfully accused and later acquitted, I can inform you on how much these accusations can hurt an innocent person.

    We sure are fast to call for violence in this thread. Everyone seems so anti violence until it's morally acceptable then kill the fucker. Great mentality to have guys.

    Let's just stone Jared to death. Those innocent little girls had zero idea they were using him for money and later exposing him. No, they are just too young to realize what they are doing. Give me a break

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    Bullying^^

    And more ganging up once it starts. You guys are great at proving me wrong.

    I didn't suggest any of the things you suggested I did. I simply said that those girls knew what they were doing. Happens every day, wether you choose to believe it or not.

    Look at this years big brother. A 33 year old dating a 23 year old boy. Back it up 6 years and suddenly we have a pedo on our hands. But now it's cute. That's what I am referring to, the social acceptance of it, the "way to go bro!" When a teenage boy has sex with a teacher. When it's a man to a girl, we call for murder. When it's a girl to a man, it's a cougar.

    Hope now you guys can see my point.

    See your point.
    You do???
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