Do Aliens Exist?

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Yes

    rgambs said:

    rollings said:

    It is fascinating to see how sure some of you are of something that there is absolutely no proff of. Reminds me of religious zealouts.

    Proof of life on other planets is impossible because of the distances involved. The nearest star to us, the sun, is reachable in 8 minutes at the speed of light.

    Sirius, the next closest star to us, is reachable in 8.6 years traveling at the speed of light. (speed of light = 186,000 miles per second).

    The fastest rocket going 90,000 miles per hour (ignoring fuel needs and other logical things) would take 64,066 years to reach Sirius. ....So, barring any interdimensional wormholes or whatever, unless said possible intelligent life form has a life span of 64,000 years, we are never going to see it..

    And of course I'm talking about life only near the next nearest star.
    The milky way galaxy has 400 Billion of them. Scientists have determined that one in five stars in our galaxy has an earth-sized planet in a habitable zone. That means that there are
    80 billion chance of life spawning on another planet just in our galaxy alone.

    oh yeah and there's about 225 billion galaxies.

    Considering the physical impossibility of "proof" coupled with the 180,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 opportunities for life (80 billion times 225 billion), what is the thought process involved in thinking that , no...we are the only ones. http://splitsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/meganamram.jpg


    P.S. I like this picture

    image

    It's what hubble captured on what was thought to be a dark, empty part of the night sky about the size of a keyhole.
    Proof of life isn't impossible! A radio/light/microwave signal would only take the 8.6 years to reach us, and could be enough evidence to assure us of life elsewhere. And, like I mentioned before, we may have life inside this very solar system, on Mars or Europa.
    90,000 mph is not even close to the hypothetical top speed that we can travel. If a roundish asteroid were hollowed out and made into a wessel it could be accelerated to at least half the speed of light. At such a high velocity, the travellers would experience relativistic travel. A 20-40 year journey would be only a few years to the inhabitants of the "ship".
    This is why the Fermi paradox exists, even given the ridiculously vast distances, "local" areas could be reached by advanced (and lucky) lifeforms.
    And if we receive a signal, should we answer? Should we send out our own signal, not knowing who might answer?

    This exact question was being discussed this week by people from all sorts of disciplines, from astronomers to science fiction writers.

    http://www.timescolonist.com/news/world/dialing-et-but-maybe-getting-klingons-scientists-debate-sending-out-signals-for-alien-life-1.1762721
    Now THAT is a good question! Maybe we hear beautiful music and we go to meet them and find out it is filthy pornography lol
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    often and gambo, your posts made me flash to Close Encounters.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    Aren't we assuming time and distance are travelled at our know methods.When I would think space travel has to be done be folding time and spaceLike it was said "wormholes".
    So if any other life for who visits us would indeed have already mastered this concept right?Imo that would make them much more advanced then us.
  • Yes

    It is funny how you can use religion as and argument for the existence of life outside the earth and I can use it as an argument against the existence of other life forms.

    On this note... I am assuming that all those people hanging out in heaven don't count as life outside the earth.

    I'm not completely sure where heaven is, but I think if we ever do come across it, we should be careful not to confuse it as proof of 'alien' existence. It might be particularly difficult if all those souls take another form to confuse us.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    No

    It is funny how you can use religion as and argument for the existence of life outside the earth and I can use it as an argument against the existence of other life forms.

    On this note... I am assuming that all those people hanging out in heaven don't count as life outside the earth.

    I'm not completely sure where heaven is, but I think if we ever do come across it, we should be careful not to confuse it as proof of 'alien' existence. It might be particularly difficult if all those souls take another form to confuse us.
    That was funny.
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,316
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    No
    23scidoo said:
    well they said they don't know what it is and are only guessing that it is a alien radio signal (along with a few other options) but it was still an interesting read.

    Godfather.

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,338
    Yes

    23scidoo said:
    well they said they don't know what it is and are only guessing that it is a alien radio signal (along with a few other options) but it was still an interesting read.

    Godfather.

    yeah, seems more likely that it came from an exploding star. I didn't even know radio signals existed in nature until now.

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited February 2015
    Yes
    Radio just denotes a particular frequency range of electromagnetic radiation. Some of the other well-known frequency ranges are microwaves, xrays, cosmic rays, the visible light spectrum, infrared, and ultraviolet... They all travel at tje same speed, 299,792,458 m/s. Lightning bolts produce radio waves!
    Post edited by rgambs on
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited February 2015
    Yes
    My mind was blown when I first learned of the vast reaches of electromagnetism!
    It's not cool that American education does such a poor job of teaching the "big picture" aspects of science like this one.
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    http://www.vox.com/2015/2/16/8045979/europa-moon-jupiter

    Interesting read on Europa and Jupiter
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    This is real fucken cool read and real strange:

    http://rt.com/uk/233507-metal-ball-alien-seed/
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,316
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    badbrains said:

    http://www.vox.com/2015/2/16/8045979/europa-moon-jupiter

    Interesting read on Europa and Jupiter

    Jupiter is forbitten for humans in Arthur C. Clarke's ''Space odysee''..
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,316
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    23scidoo said:

    badbrains said:

    http://www.vox.com/2015/2/16/8045979/europa-moon-jupiter

    Interesting read on Europa and Jupiter

    Jupiter is forbitten for humans in Arthur C. Clarke's ''Space odysee''..
    sorry..it was Europa
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,316
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    http://youtu.be/Ra7FMnpWMhY
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,316
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    23scidoo said:
    this is very interesting for me..i don't care if are the Russians or aliens..i only know that..every day around the planet happens lot of ''weird'' things..some can explain,some are hoax and some are mystery..thats a fact..and we can't deny..
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    No
    You guys are easily amused..
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
    edited February 2015
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    What about that international 'noise from the sky' thing? Wtf is up with that??

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=eCAgmtB4j7w#
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    No

    You guys are easily amused..

    hahahhahahhah !

    Godfather.

  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
    Yes, and they have visited Earth

    You guys are easily amused..

    hahahhahahhah !

    Godfather.

    So's GF, apparently. ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    No
    PJ_Soul said:

    You guys are easily amused..

    hahahhahahhah !

    Godfather.

    So's GF, apparently. ;)
    you got me ! hahhahhahhah

    Godfather.

  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    Watching Close Encounters right now.I forgot how great this movie is.Timeless.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,338
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,316
    Yes, and they have visited Earth

    You guys are easily amused..

    you don't have anything better to amuse your self??
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,316
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    WTF??
    http://youtu.be/zHCSpm2kepo
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    No
    23scidoo said:

    You guys are easily amused..

    you don't have anything better to amuse your self??
    Yes.
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,316
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    http://youtu.be/XAU9ofjcx-Y
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,901
    Lloyd Pye
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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