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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,920
    Gern Blansten said:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/laura-ingraham-jeb-bush-iraq

    Hilarious...the GOP eating their own

    I saw this, but didn't realize it was a "knowing what we know now" question. That is really an absurd answer. The only people I have consistently heard defending the decision still are the Cheney's. But they are in 'legacy protection' mode. This is quite an embarrassing revelation.
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    Just a bunch of talking heads over-analyzing a response to fill a 24 hour news slot.

    Hearing his full response; it seems pretty clear his answer overlooks the "knowing what we know now" portion of the question.

    To counter over-analyze;

    "knowing what we know now" Is a pretty vague set-up for the question. If the interviewer wanted to emphasize that point of the question, she should have followed-up his response with more clarity in the first part of the question.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,479
    mookeywrench said:

    Just a bunch of talking heads over-analyzing a response to fill a 24 hour news slot.

    Hearing his full response; it seems pretty clear his answer overlooks the "knowing what we know now" portion of the question.

    To counter over-analyze;

    "knowing what we know now" Is a pretty vague set-up for the question. If the interviewer wanted to emphasize that point of the question, she should have followed-up his response with more clarity in the first part of the question.

    I agree....there's no way he's that stupid

    What I get great joy from is watching the GOP destroy him. The hard right wants a Cruz or Huckabee...not Jeb
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,814
    So Jeb is not attending the Iowa straw poll ..
    http://theweek.com/articles/554789/iowa-caucuses-are-big-fat-joke--jeb-bush-only-laughing

    Talk about not running a smart campaign ....
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Gern Blansten said:

    mookeywrench said:

    Just a bunch of talking heads over-analyzing a response to fill a 24 hour news slot.

    Hearing his full response; it seems pretty clear his answer overlooks the "knowing what we know now" portion of the question.

    To counter over-analyze;

    "knowing what we know now" Is a pretty vague set-up for the question. If the interviewer wanted to emphasize that point of the question, she should have followed-up his response with more clarity in the first part of the question.

    I agree....there's no way he's that stupid

    What I get great joy from is watching the GOP destroy him. The hard right wants a Cruz or Huckabee...not Jeb
    Jeeze...another guy who knows little about "the hard right". "The right" is made up of very different groups. On economic policy Huckabee is actually seen to be far to the left by the base of the party. Social conservatives might love Huck but the tea party contingent absolutely does not.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,479
    edited May 2015
    http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/this-one-chart-shows-exactly-how-conservative-2016-gop-hopefuls-actually-are

    I guess we disagree...
    Post edited by Gern Blansten on
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  • BS44325
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    Gern Blansten said:

    http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/this-one-chart-shows-exactly-how-conservative-2016-gop-hopefuls-actually-are

    I guess we disagree...

    Of course because to you a conservative is a conservative. That graph doesn't measure fiscal vs social...it just lumps them all together. I am fiscal but not social, huckabee is social but not fiscal...plot us on the graph using their metrics and we're the same. The tea party was a response to George W. Bush's spending record...Huck would spend more then that while Cruz would tackle entitlement reform. They are different.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    hedonist said:



    mookeywrench wrote: »

    Dems and mods are still suffering from "Bush fatigue" and won't even give consideration beyond reading his last name (see first two posts). Meanwhile Republicans feel he is too liberal to score the GOP primary.



    The cards are definitely stacked against him, but he tends to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative which is what I favor and would be interested in what he has to say during the primaries.

    This is pretty much where I stand as well.



    I am as well.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,920
    rr165892 said:

    hedonist said:



    mookeywrench wrote: »

    Dems and mods are still suffering from "Bush fatigue" and won't even give consideration beyond reading his last name (see first two posts). Meanwhile Republicans feel he is too liberal to score the GOP primary.



    The cards are definitely stacked against him, but he tends to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative which is what I favor and would be interested in what he has to say during the primaries.

    This is pretty much where I stand as well.

    I am as well.

    But he's not socially liberal... or at least he's trying to appear as such. He never backed down on Terry Shiavo, he supported Pence's law in Indiana, even AFTER the uproar by businesses,
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/13/jeb-bush-isis_n_7279970.html
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Looks like the Jebster has finally come around to admitting Iraq invasion was a mistake. I can appreciate that.
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    CH156378 said:

    Looks like the Jebster has finally come around to admitting Iraq invasion was a mistake. I can appreciate that.

    Unless he's lying just to get elected. Oh, wait. They ALL do it, both sides.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited May 2015
    Yeah Rubio said same thing but they throw in the....."if we knew the intelligence is wrong" so to not offend the Dubya lovers AND add "in end it took out a brutal dictator". So not an admission just moving a bit to the left on this to not seem totally out of touch. But it is a good step in realizing g our mistake.

    Now though the right still thinks we should be ass deep in Syria, Libya and Iraq and push Putin and China and North Korea.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    callen said:

    Yeah Rubio said same thing but they throw in the....."if we knew the intelligence is wrong" so to not offend the Dubya lovers AND add "in end it took out a brutal dictator". So not an admission just moving a bit to the left on this to not seem totally out of touch. But it is a good step in realizing g our mistake.

    Now though the right still thinks we should be ass deep in Syria, Libya and Iraq and push Putin and China and North Korea.

    I think North Korea may hit a critical mass implosion from within soon.Weird shit going on behind the curtain.Something to watch.
    Jeb hanging in the middle is a great play.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,814
    callen said:

    Yeah Rubio said same thing but they throw in the....."if we knew the intelligence is wrong" so to not offend the Dubya lovers AND add "in end it took out a brutal dictator". So not an admission just moving a bit to the left on this to not seem totally out of touch. But it is a good step in realizing g our mistake.

    Now though the right still thinks we should be ass deep in Syria, Libya and Iraq and push Putin and China and North Korea.

    Don't forget Iran they will bomb them in their 1st term and take out their nuclear arsenal to protect Israel ...
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    rr165892 said:

    callen said:

    Yeah Rubio said same thing but they throw in the....."if we knew the intelligence is wrong" so to not offend the Dubya lovers AND add "in end it took out a brutal dictator". So not an admission just moving a bit to the left on this to not seem totally out of touch. But it is a good step in realizing g our mistake.

    Now though the right still thinks we should be ass deep in Syria, Libya and Iraq and push Putin and China and North Korea.

    I think North Korea may hit a critical mass implosion from within soon.Weird shit going on behind the curtain.Something to watch.
    Jeb hanging in the middle is a great play.
    Been reading same stories. Looks like the little one is feeling pressure from within and with some luck maybe he'll be ousted.

    May be buying opportunity for some defense stocks.

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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    callen said:

    rr165892 said:

    callen said:

    Yeah Rubio said same thing but they throw in the....."if we knew the intelligence is wrong" so to not offend the Dubya lovers AND add "in end it took out a brutal dictator". So not an admission just moving a bit to the left on this to not seem totally out of touch. But it is a good step in realizing g our mistake.

    Now though the right still thinks we should be ass deep in Syria, Libya and Iraq and push Putin and China and North Korea.

    I think North Korea may hit a critical mass implosion from within soon.Weird shit going on behind the curtain.Something to watch.
    Jeb hanging in the middle is a great play.
    Been reading same stories. Looks like the little one is feeling pressure from within and with some luck maybe he'll be ousted.

    May be buying opportunity for some defense stocks.

    Cal,I dig it when you talk like a conservative,lol
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Jeb went full political and backs discrimination against homosexuals.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    jeb has surrounded himself with his brother's old advisors. of course he is going to have a hard time answering such a question about iraq...
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  • brianlux
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    gimmesometruth27 said:

    jeb has surrounded himself with his brother's old advisors. of course he is going to have a hard time answering such a question about iraq...

    Starting to sound sort of like Nightmare on Elm Street Part II. Sheesh!

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