Just one more firearms thread

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mattsl1983 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

You do realize that the flood of immigrants form Mexico can be attributed to some degree (large or small) to the drug consumption patterns of the US?

They aren't lazy and they aren't evil. They seek a better life than the one currently afforded to them in a country rampant with extreme violence as cartels battle to produce and sell drugs to the USA's massive consumer base.

Completely different argument. If you in Canada eh would like to start a new discussion about us border states and what the actual issues are eh, then start that thread.

Conversations tend to morph every now and then.

If you want to be like that then fine.

Hyuck hyuck yee haw git 'er done. Open carry gun policies are ludicrous and bordering on sheer madness.

Arguing for a return to the good ol' wild west is about as much nonsense as a guy can take.

Conversation over.

* Seeing as you don't know... assault rifles: have large magazines, fire rapidly, have pistol grips, and are not used for hunting because they are designed for close range combat (killing lots of humans in close proximity to you).

unsung

Ok, I had to laugh.

jmuscatello

Jason P said:

When the NRA calls you out as a gun toting weirdo ... well, enough said.

NRA calls 'open carry' rallies 'downright weird'

NRA criticizes Texas 'open carry' rallies, in which advocates bring guns into businesses

HOUSTON (AP) -- Companies, customers and others critical of Texas gun rights advocates who have brought military-style assault rifles into businesses as part of demonstrations supporting "open carry" gun rights now have a surprising ally: the National Rifle Association.

The advocates' actions in restaurants and other public places — part of a push for less restrictive gun laws, including legalizing the open carry of handguns — have prompted public criticism.

The NRA has long been a zealous advocate for gun owners' rights. But the group's lobbying arm, the Institute for Legislative Action, has called the demonstrations counterproductive to promoting gun rights, scary and "downright weird."

The NRA said the demonstrations have "crossed the line from enthusiasm to downright foolishness."

"Using guns merely to draw attention to yourself in public not only defies common sense, it shows a lack of consideration and manners. That's not the Texas way. And that's certainly not the NRA way," the NRA said in a statement posted on its website Friday.

The president and vice president of Open Carry Texas, one of the groups behind the recent demonstrations, did not return emails seeking comment late Monday.
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news.yahoo.com/nra-calls-open-carry-rallies-142822502.html

and now today the NRA retracted their criticism of the public rallies, and Open Carry Texas is happy again... they can all agree that flaunting is awesome

dignin

Open carry sounds like open intimidation.

No need for that in a civil society.....but maybe down south they ain't so civil......Yeeeeehaaaawwwww!

Jason P

NRA is in a tough spot. It is obvious that this method of promoting open carry, via taken into a Denny's armed to the teeth, are counter-productive for the most part. These guys look and act like a bunch of yahoos.

unsung

Ok, I've read into this a bit more. First of all they received store management permission prior to entering. Secondly, the photo used in the media was cropped to exclude the two uniformed police officers that were with them.

Third, they broke no laws.

callen

I will not patronize business that allows people to openly carry in their guns. I know I'm in majority.

unsung

I feel safer when I'm eating at a place that allows open or concealed carry.

It is the last place a criminal would try to commit a crime.

Post that no guns allowed sign, crooks then can clean house.

That sign makes you feel safer?

brianlux

unsung said:

I feel safer when I'm eating at a place that allows open or concealed carry.

It is the last place a criminal would try to commit a crime.

Post that no guns allowed sign, crooks then can clean house.

That sign makes you feel safer?

I have never, ever in all my 62 plus years EVER worried about someone shooting me in a restaurant. It's the back alleys of those sleazy dives I frequent that concern me.

I went out the back door of these once and these two old people were lying on the ground in shock and I said, "What happened? Are you two OK?"

They elderly gentleman said, "Yeah, we're ok now. We were reliving our first sexual intercourse together 40 years ago, doing it right here up against that fence."

"So what happened this time that you ended up in the dirt?" I asked.

"Well", said the old guy, "40 years ago that fence wasn't electrified."

jmuscatello

unsung said:

Ok, I've read into this a bit more. First of all they received store management permission prior to entering. Secondly, the photo used in the media was cropped to exclude the two uniformed police officers that were with them.

Third, they broke no laws.

We know that what they're doing is totally legal. But I think that many Americans who see these public gun flaunts going on might not realize it's legal, and they'll say... wow, this is so fucked up! this is legal? and in that way, it'll dawn on some people how insane and extreme the gun lobby really is. To me, there's some hope that there will be some backlash with public perception, and the gun-rights extreme will expose themselves with these stunts. If they were smarter, they'd just stay under the radar and bank on the complacency.

Good to know though, I guess, that there were some uniformed cops in there with them. But like Callen, there is no chance I'd knowingly patronize a business/chain that allowed one of these bizarro events, and I'd always favor a business that didn't allow open-carry.

unsung

Rights not exercised are not going to remain rights for long.

callen

unsung said:

I feel safer when I'm eating at a place that allows open or concealed carry.

It is the last place a criminal would try to commit a crime.

Post that no guns allowed sign, crooks then can clean house.

That sign makes you feel safer?

It's not the crooks I'm worried about. It's the people with the guns.

Jason P

Westboro Church doesn't violate any laws as well when exercising their rights but there are many more tactful ways to persuade your vision to the public.

It's a dumb tactic that hurts their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment to the general public. I'd like to see them keep it up.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

unsung said:

Rights not exercised are not going to remain rights for long.

So you're saying there's a chance?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

callen said:

unsung said:

I feel safer when I'm eating at a place that allows open or concealed carry.

It is the last place a criminal would try to commit a crime.

Post that no guns allowed sign, crooks then can clean house.

That sign makes you feel safer?

It's not the crooks I'm worried about. It's the people with the guns.

Like that guy in the movie theater that shot that other guy because he was texting someone?

callen

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

callen said:

unsung said:

I feel safer when I'm eating at a place that allows open or concealed carry.

It is the last place a criminal would try to commit a crime.

Post that no guns allowed sign, crooks then can clean house.

That sign makes you feel safer?

It's not the crooks I'm worried about. It's the people with the guns.

Like that guy in the movie theater that shot that other guy because he was texting someone?

Good example.

Was in drive thru last night behind proud gun owner. Had several stickers on back window including "Secede" (some in Texas want to leave the Union. "Come and take it". Sticker of m16. But best was 18"x18" in middle with skull two glocks with wording including. "Protected by second amendment." "Second amendment was original homeland security."

Now how great it would be to allow this yahoo to openly carry a glock. Are we fucked as society? Beginning to lose faith.

callen

Jason P said:

Westboro Church doesn't violate any laws as well when exercising their rights but there are many more tactful ways to persuade your vision to the public.

It's a dumb tactic that hurts their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment to the general public. I'd like to see them keep it up.

You'd think there would be public outcry but worried it won't happen. Always thought we'd become more civil but now. Fk.

unsung

callen said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

callen said:

unsung said:

I feel safer when I'm eating at a place that allows open or concealed carry.

It is the last place a criminal would try to commit a crime.

Post that no guns allowed sign, crooks then can clean house.

That sign makes you feel safer?

It's not the crooks I'm worried about. It's the people with the guns.

Like that guy in the movie theater that shot that other guy because he was texting someone?

Good example.

Was in drive thru last night behind proud gun owner. Had several stickers on back window including "Secede" (some in Texas want to leave the Union. "Come and take it". Sticker of m16. But best was 18"x18" in middle with skull two glocks with wording including. "Protected by second amendment." "Second amendment was original homeland security."

Now how great it would be to allow this yahoo to openly carry a glock. Are we fucked as society? Beginning to lose faith.

So you are ok with him carrying one concealed then?

Do the opinions of others always frighten you?


But really, stickers on trucks scare me too, but it is those Obama stickers along with a COEXIST sticker on a Prius that really keeps me up at night.

Oh the irony.

callen

unsung said:

callen said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

callen said:

unsung said:

I feel safer when I'm eating at a place that allows open or concealed carry.

It is the last place a criminal would try to commit a crime.

Post that no guns allowed sign, crooks then can clean house.

That sign makes you feel safer?

It's not the crooks I'm worried about. It's the people with the guns.

Like that guy in the movie theater that shot that other guy because he was texting someone?

Good example.

Was in drive thru last night behind proud gun owner. Had several stickers on back window including "Secede" (some in Texas want to leave the Union. "Come and take it". Sticker of m16. But best was 18"x18" in middle with skull two glocks with wording including. "Protected by second amendment." "Second amendment was original homeland security."

Now how great it would be to allow this yahoo to openly carry a glock. Are we fucked as society? Beginning to lose faith.

So you are ok with him carrying one concealed then?

Do the opinions of others always frighten you?

I'm not okay with concealed either. I'm great with opinions but when those opinions affect my safety I have a problem with them.

I support personal freedoms and am anti gov but something has to give and arming everyone doesn't seem like good strategy.

unsung

I have fists, are you afraid I might punch you if you were next to me?

I have feet too, are you afraid that you could get kicked?