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  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    Brianlux, it's all good. I've followed and agreed with you on many issues before and also disagreed. This is nothing personal, you're a good dude in my book.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited June 2014
    unsung said:

    callen said:

    unsung said:

    Right and wrong?

    Says who?

    Arms race? Ah, the great wild west shootout that the anti's claim will always happen but never does.

    Right agree can debate right and wrong but laws have no validity so when you asked were they doing something illegal, not relevant.

    My opinion is that if the US suddenly went to all open carry it would suck big time. You disagree? Would you support?



    Laws have no validity? What are you talking about? Of course laws have everything to do with this.

    Ok, I'll re-phrase differently...

    Were they acting in an unlawful manner? Or is this just a case of hurt feelings?

    Be honest.

    No your missing my point. Something being a law means squat if it's an unjust or bad law. Think of your position with cattle rancher and federal law.

    Am curious are you okay with folks openly carrying?

    No hurt feelings ever from anything on this board and do it for fun. As to subjects good way to discuss rational behind our actions and behavior.
    Post edited by callen on
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  • goingtoverona
    goingtoverona Posts: 616
    @blux, what's the context in which those people were hung back in the day. if it was a bunch of white folks hanging black people for being black, then I would say yeah 86 that nickname. but if it was the town coming together to defend themselves against some gang of murderers and bank robbers terrorizing the town, then I think I would keep hangtown. it provides a neat history.

    how do we end violence? make sure anyone and everyone has access to clean water, good food, good medical care, good education and central air.
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    mattsl1983 said:

    The context of my question was based on the thread we posting in. So can I ask what it's time to change about firearms?

    Also, just just because someone disagrees with your view, doesn't mean they are ignorant or uneducated. Underlining thoughts like these are half the reasons most of the problems you posted exist. Once someone feels they are superior, it causes problems for the ones they feel are inferior.

    I have very many close friends that have guns. They are intelligent and respect their point of view as I do on this board. With that said I see correlation of some gun owners with red neck bigots due to what I see everyday. Been to gun show. See my neighbors with NoBoma, impeach, Rebel flag and ak 47 stickers. Look at group protesting to open carry.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    callen said:

    unsung said:

    callen said:

    unsung said:

    Right and wrong?

    Says who?

    Arms race? Ah, the great wild west shootout that the anti's claim will always happen but never does.

    Right agree can debate right and wrong but laws have no validity so when you asked were they doing something illegal, not relevant.

    My opinion is that if the US suddenly went to all open carry it would suck big time. You disagree? Would you support?



    Laws have no validity? What are you talking about? Of course laws have everything to do with this.

    Ok, I'll re-phrase differently...

    Were they acting in an unlawful manner? Or is this just a case of hurt feelings?

    Be honest.

    No your missing my point. Something being a law means squat if it's an unjust or bad law. Think of your position with cattle rancher and federal law.

    Am curious are you okay with folks openly carrying?

    No hurt feelings ever from anything on this board and do it for fun. As to subjects good way to discuss rational behind our actions and behavior.
    Can you please explain what you mean by being okay with folks "open carrying" means? Are you expressing your preconceived notion of what open carry is or have you actually looked into each state and community that allows open carry with limitations? Or do you think open carry is just a nationwide allowance?
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    goingtoverona said:



    how do we end violence? make sure anyone and everyone has access to clean water, good food, good medical care, good education and central air.

    Yes. Love the central air. In houston and would become violent wo it. :D
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    mattsl1983 said:

    callen said:

    unsung said:

    callen said:

    unsung said:

    Right and wrong?

    Says who?

    Arms race? Ah, the great wild west shootout that the anti's claim will always happen but never does.

    Right agree can debate right and wrong but laws have no validity so when you asked were they doing something illegal, not relevant.

    My opinion is that if the US suddenly went to all open carry it would suck big time. You disagree? Would you support?



    Laws have no validity? What are you talking about? Of course laws have everything to do with this.

    Ok, I'll re-phrase differently...

    Were they acting in an unlawful manner? Or is this just a case of hurt feelings?

    Be honest.

    No your missing my point. Something being a law means squat if it's an unjust or bad law. Think of your position with cattle rancher and federal law.

    Am curious are you okay with folks openly carrying?

    No hurt feelings ever from anything on this board and do it for fun. As to subjects good way to discuss rational behind our actions and behavior.
    Can you please explain what you mean by being okay with folks "open carrying" means? Are you expressing your preconceived notion of what open carry is or have you actually looked into each state and community that allows open carry with limitations? Or do you think open carry is just a nationwide allowance?
    Ok allow me to elaborate :D

    So would y'all gun proponents be okay if tomorrow all of the us went to full open carry?
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • jmuscatello
    jmuscatello Colorado Posts: 332
    Hmm
    mattsl1983 said:

    jmuscatello said:



    mattsl1983 said:

    Because you seem very misinformed and scared. Learn, then make an opinion. Don't make an opinion and then not learn anything.

    and then
    mattsl1983 said:


    Also, just just because someone disagrees with your view, doesn't mean they are ignorant or uneducated. Underlining thoughts like these are half the reasons most of the problems you posted exist. Once someone feels they are superior, it causes problems for the ones they feel are inferior.

    hmmmm.


    Hmm what? I pointed out that someone sounds misinformed and should learn about the laws of open carry that they are auguring about are? And pointed that because someone disagrees doesn't make them inferior?

    That's a major hmmm. Great input to the conversation muscalleto!


    The hmmm was just me wondering if you were throwing back a little too much wine again last night. Just that and the glaring hypocrisy in those two posts. Go back and read all your "great input!" why don't you.
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    callen said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    callen said:

    unsung said:

    callen said:

    unsung said:

    Right and wrong?

    Says who?

    Arms race? Ah, the great wild west shootout that the anti's claim will always happen but never does.

    Right agree can debate right and wrong but laws have no validity so when you asked were they doing something illegal, not relevant.

    My opinion is that if the US suddenly went to all open carry it would suck big time. You disagree? Would you support?



    Laws have no validity? What are you talking about? Of course laws have everything to do with this.

    Ok, I'll re-phrase differently...

    Were they acting in an unlawful manner? Or is this just a case of hurt feelings?

    Be honest.

    No your missing my point. Something being a law means squat if it's an unjust or bad law. Think of your position with cattle rancher and federal law.

    Am curious are you okay with folks openly carrying?

    No hurt feelings ever from anything on this board and do it for fun. As to subjects good way to discuss rational behind our actions and behavior.
    Can you please explain what you mean by being okay with folks "open carrying" means? Are you expressing your preconceived notion of what open carry is or have you actually looked into each state and community that allows open carry with limitations? Or do you think open carry is just a nationwide allowance?
    Ok allow me to elaborate :D

    So would y'all gun proponents be okay if tomorrow all of the us went to full open carry?

    Okay again, what is open carry? Are you familier with the states that allow it and the restrictions are in place? I live in an open carry state and I have no issue with it. I am a-o-k with open carry.
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    jmuscatello said:

    Hmm

    mattsl1983 said:

    jmuscatello said:



    mattsl1983 said:

    Because you seem very misinformed and scared. Learn, then make an opinion. Don't make an opinion and then not learn anything.

    and then
    mattsl1983 said:


    Also, just just because someone disagrees with your view, doesn't mean they are ignorant or uneducated. Underlining thoughts like these are half the reasons most of the problems you posted exist. Once someone feels they are superior, it causes problems for the ones they feel are inferior.

    hmmmm.


    Hmm what? I pointed out that someone sounds misinformed and should learn about the laws of open carry that they are auguring about are? And pointed that because someone disagrees doesn't make them inferior?

    That's a major hmmm. Great input to the conversation muscalleto!


    The hmmm was just me wondering if you were throwing back a little too much wine again last night. Just that and the glaring hypocrisy in those two posts. Go back and read all your "great input!" why don't you.
    Still not seeing any hypocrisy at all. And I like the personal jab of the red wine. Very classy. But can you please explain the hypocrisy in saying someone sounds misinformed and encouraging them to learn facts and stating that half the worlds problems are because some people feel they are more educated and superior?

    No hypocrisy at all. I pointed out that someone is coming across as misinformed. I did not belittle or be negative. Unlike your great great response. And I told you great input! You still have such great input!
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    callen said:

    unsung said:

    callen said:

    unsung said:

    Right and wrong?

    Says who?

    Arms race? Ah, the great wild west shootout that the anti's claim will always happen but never does.

    Right agree can debate right and wrong but laws have no validity so when you asked were they doing something illegal, not relevant.

    My opinion is that if the US suddenly went to all open carry it would suck big time. You disagree? Would you support?



    Laws have no validity? What are you talking about? Of course laws have everything to do with this.

    Ok, I'll re-phrase differently...

    Were they acting in an unlawful manner? Or is this just a case of hurt feelings?

    Be honest.

    No your missing my point. Something being a law means squat if it's an unjust or bad law. Think of your position with cattle rancher and federal law.

    Am curious are you okay with folks openly carrying?

    No hurt feelings ever from anything on this board and do it for fun. As to subjects good way to discuss rational behind our actions and behavior.

    I am 100% ok with open carry.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited June 2014
    mattsl1983 said:

    callen said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    callen said:

    unsung said:

    callen said:

    unsung said:

    Right and wrong?

    Says who?

    Arms race? Ah, the great wild west shootout that the anti's claim will always happen but never does.

    Right agree can debate right and wrong but laws have no validity so when you asked were they doing something illegal, not relevant.

    My opinion is that if the US suddenly went to all open carry it would suck big time. You disagree? Would you support?



    Laws have no validity? What are you talking about? Of course laws have everything to do with this.

    Ok, I'll re-phrase differently...

    Were they acting in an unlawful manner? Or is this just a case of hurt feelings?

    Be honest.

    No your missing my point. Something being a law means squat if it's an unjust or bad law. Think of your position with cattle rancher and federal law.

    Am curious are you okay with folks openly carrying?

    No hurt feelings ever from anything on this board and do it for fun. As to subjects good way to discuss rational behind our actions and behavior.
    Can you please explain what you mean by being okay with folks "open carrying" means? Are you expressing your preconceived notion of what open carry is or have you actually looked into each state and community that allows open carry with limitations? Or do you think open carry is just a nationwide allowance?
    Ok allow me to elaborate :D

    So would y'all gun proponents be okay if tomorrow all of the us went to full open carry?

    Okay again, what is open carry? Are you familier with the states that allow it and the restrictions are in place? I live in an open carry state and I have no issue with it. I am a-o-k with open carry.
    Having openly displayed sidearm in holster. But do you think also okay to walk around with assault rifle? Or how about in gun rack in back of truck on back glass?

    Be honest, your good with gang member strutting around with guns? Now they can if never convicted right. Anyone? You think this would make is a better society? Really??
    Post edited by callen on
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Okay with open carry? Everybody walking around with a handgun on their hip? Yikes.

    If that ever becomes the case... stop building a wall between you and Mexico. Instead, build it between you and Canada... and stay in there.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Exceptions??? Need to see PJ IN CANADA AGAIN !!!! Do enjoy your great country.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    callen said:

    Exceptions??? Need to see PJ IN CANADA AGAIN !!!! Do enjoy your great country.

    Pearl Jam and Callen can come in.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    callen said:

    Exceptions??? Need to see PJ IN CANADA AGAIN !!!! Do enjoy your great country.

    Pearl Jam and Callen can come in.
    :)
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    A
    callen said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    callen said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    callen said:

    unsung said:

    callen said:

    unsung said:

    Right and wrong?

    Says who?

    Arms race? Ah, the great wild west shootout that the anti's claim will always happen but never does.

    Right agree can debate right and wrong but laws have no validity so when you asked were they doing something illegal, not relevant.

    My opinion is that if the US suddenly went to all open carry it would suck big time. You disagree? Would you support?



    Laws have no validity? What are you talking about? Of course laws have everything to do with this.

    Ok, I'll re-phrase differently...

    Were they acting in an unlawful manner? Or is this just a case of hurt feelings?

    Be honest.

    No your missing my point. Something being a law means squat if it's an unjust or bad law. Think of your position with cattle rancher and federal law.

    Am curious are you okay with folks openly carrying?

    No hurt feelings ever from anything on this board and do it for fun. As to subjects good way to discuss rational behind our actions and behavior.
    Can you please explain what you mean by being okay with folks "open carrying" means? Are you expressing your preconceived notion of what open carry is or have you actually looked into each state and community that allows open carry with limitations? Or do you think open carry is just a nationwide allowance?
    Ok allow me to elaborate :D

    So would y'all gun proponents be okay if tomorrow all of the us went to full open carry?

    Okay again, what is open carry? Are you familier with the states that allow it and the restrictions are in place? I live in an open carry state and I have no issue with it. I am a-o-k with open carry.
    Having openly displayed sidearm in holster. But do you think also okay to walk around with assault rifle? Or how about in gun rack in back of truck on back glass?

    Be honest, your good with gang member strutting around with guns? Now they can if never convicted right. Anyone? You think this would make is a better society? Really??
    You are dismissing the fact I live in an open carry state. Holsters and all. An assault riffle is no different than a shotgun or a handgun by the way, check the functionality of the gun.. And am I supposed to now label a group of people and say hey, based on your looks you can't own a gun, because I think you are in a gang? Now you want to profile to own a gun, but are probably against any other type of profiling. Because only when it's convenient for you it's okay to profile? How about for that one we trade off, I'll register my gun as long as anyone who wants to vote registers? You try and paint this scary picture of CC or open carry, but you fail to realize that maybe some of us live in an open carry state. Last time I looked out my window it's not the Wild West.
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Okay with open carry? Everybody walking around with a handgun on their hip? Yikes.

    If that ever becomes the case... stop building a wall between you and Mexico. Instead, build it between you and Canada... and stay in there.

    Actually we aren't building a wall, or a fence. That's just wrong to exclude people coming into the USA. Don't you know that immigration control is wrong!?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    If I buy one it's an 'assault rifle', if the government buys one it's called a 'personal defense firearm'.

    I've never assaulted anyone, can govt say the same?
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    mattsl1983 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Okay with open carry? Everybody walking around with a handgun on their hip? Yikes.

    If that ever becomes the case... stop building a wall between you and Mexico. Instead, build it between you and Canada... and stay in there.

    Actually we aren't building a wall, or a fence. That's just wrong to exclude people coming into the USA. Don't you know that immigration control is wrong!?
    If only your First Nations people had such foresight, eh?
    "My brain's a good brain!"

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