He's ranked in the top 10 of just about every statistical category that matters for a starting pitcher year in, year out.
I guess I'm missing something here...
of course you are. you missed the part of the story i posted where he is 44th in era since signing his contract.
the crux of your argument was that he has never had a dominating year. i'm pointing out that he is consistently one of the top 10 pitchers in the game year in, year out. he struggled a bit last year, obviously but so did a lot of high priced players on this team.
i don't get how people can under appreciate that kind of production.
I called him a 'very good pitcher' above. not sure how that is considered under appreciating him. can you pick a year where he has been dominant? his highest cy young rank has been 5th. he hasn't been dominant or better than a top 5 pitcher in the NL for a full season and probably never top 10 in the majors. not a rip on him just a legitimate observation. very good starting pitcher just below the elite. some people like to put him elite because of the 2008 playoffs.
do you like Ben Revere too or is it ok to criticize him? have you ever seen a starting center fielder misread more fly balls than this guy? it's not really as hard as he makes it seem.
First ryan howard is better than ted williams...and now Gio gonazalez is better than cole hamels
congrats to cole on 100 last night....sadly they will probably not score another run until july now.
=D>
score another run for Cole or just in general?
Cliff pitching today, hoping they win the series finale today
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
congrats to cole on 100 last night....sadly they will probably not score another run until july now.
=D>
score another run for Cole or just in general?
Cliff pitching today, hoping they win the series finale today
nice win today on the Phanatic's 36th birthday! nice to see the offense show up the past few games.
Wish Schmidt would do full time announcing, i'll take him over Matt and Jamie anyday.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
didn't know randy wolf was still pitching in the majors.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
didn't know randy wolf was still pitching in the majors.
think he ever found that woman from the New York train? that was a pretty funny story.
not good on Cliff. surprised he pitched with some discomfort in his elbow.
) yeah i kinda remember the train story. didn't he meet a girl on the train but never found out who she was or something?
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
didn't know randy wolf was still pitching in the majors.
think he ever found that woman from the New York train? that was a pretty funny story.
not good on Cliff. surprised he pitched with some discomfort in his elbow.
) yeah i kinda remember the train story. didn't he meet a girl on the train but never found out who she was or something?
yes never got her name or anything then went to the papers in NY and Philly to try and find out who she was but never did. was kind of a weird story for a professional athlete.
Made in America - Kanye and Kings of Leon the headliners this year in Philly. no interest in that.
anyone making any treks for this Midwest PJ tour? still contemplating but not a lot of cities to get excited about visiting. Memphis might be cool. Wish they were playing Louisville. very underrated town.
Made in America - Kanye and Kings of Leon the headliners this year in Philly. no interest in that.
anyone making any treks for this Midwest PJ tour? still contemplating but not a lot of cities to get excited about visiting. Memphis might be cool. Wish they were playing Louisville. very underrated town.
no MIA line-up sucks this year and the PJ tour can't really afford. maybe if they were in reasonable driving distance. Probably next year for me.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Made in America - Kanye and Kings of Leon the headliners this year in Philly. no interest in that.
anyone making any treks for this Midwest PJ tour? still contemplating but not a lot of cities to get excited about visiting. Memphis might be cool. Wish they were playing Louisville. very underrated town.
no MIA line-up sucks this year and the PJ tour can't really afford. maybe if they were in reasonable driving distance. Probably next year for me.
yea checked into some flights to a few of the areas and they aren't cheap.
how about some of those hail storms yesterday. holy fuck that would suck to have one of them destroy your car like that.
at least we got the unofficial start to summer coming today. thank god. love summer and hot weather. bring it on.
Made in America - Kanye and Kings of Leon the headliners this year in Philly. no interest in that.
anyone making any treks for this Midwest PJ tour? still contemplating but not a lot of cities to get excited about visiting. Memphis might be cool. Wish they were playing Louisville. very underrated town.
Yeah I'm gonna go to Denver. Something new. I've never been there. Legal weed. Last year I was kinda disenchanted with the Philly 2 show I was at. Felt like the same old thing. Maybe cause I've seen like 15 PJ shows in Camden/Philly
Made in America - Kanye and Kings of Leon the headliners this year in Philly. no interest in that.
anyone making any treks for this Midwest PJ tour? still contemplating but not a lot of cities to get excited about visiting. Memphis might be cool. Wish they were playing Louisville. very underrated town.
Yeah I'm gonna go to Denver. Something new. I've never been there. Legal weed. Last year I was kinda disenchanted with the Philly 2 show I was at. Felt like the same old thing. Maybe cause I've seen like 15 PJ shows in Camden/Philly
I would like to go to the Denver show too but it's a Wednesday right? I think the only weekend show is fucking Detroit.
Made in America - Kanye and Kings of Leon the headliners this year in Philly. no interest in that.
anyone making any treks for this Midwest PJ tour? still contemplating but not a lot of cities to get excited about visiting. Memphis might be cool. Wish they were playing Louisville. very underrated town.
Yeah I'm gonna go to Denver. Something new. I've never been there. Legal weed. Last year I was kinda disenchanted with the Philly 2 show I was at. Felt like the same old thing. Maybe cause I've seen like 15 PJ shows in Camden/Philly
I would like to go to the Denver show too but it's a Wednesday right? I think the only weekend show is fucking Detroit.
I'll be skipping this one probably...
yea Denver is a wednesday. Moline is a friday and St. Paul is a sunday. I honestly had no clue where Moline Il was until i looked it up. still debating here about possibly any of them.
Comments
http://deadspin.com/witnesses-mitch-williams-called-child-a-pussy-order-1577451834
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
score another run for Cole or just in general?
Cliff pitching today, hoping they win the series finale today
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
My first thought is that it is massive kick in Verizon's nuts.
Could AT&T put together a better and more cost efficient "triple play" package or something along those lines?
Wish Schmidt would do full time announcing, i'll take him over Matt and Jamie anyday.
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
I really need that :corn: smilie.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
not good on Cliff. surprised he pitched with some discomfort in his elbow.
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
anyone making any treks for this Midwest PJ tour? still contemplating but not a lot of cities to get excited about visiting. Memphis might be cool. Wish they were playing Louisville. very underrated town.
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
how about some of those hail storms yesterday. holy fuck that would suck to have one of them destroy your car like that.
at least we got the unofficial start to summer coming today. thank god. love summer and hot weather. bring it on.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
I'll be skipping this one probably...