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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    Bastardo drives me crazy. the type of guy we would send somewhere else and would become dominate.

    still waiting for Cole to have a dominating year some year. if not for those 5 games in oct. 2008...

    got to love this bench. nix, mayberry, galvis - awesome stuff there.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The above Cole Hamels comment.....eh, yeah, par for the course I guess

    Jesus...
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    The Juggler said:

    The above Cole Hamels comment.....eh, yeah, par for the course I guess

    Jesus...

    And the best part is that he thinks Ryan Howard is gods gift to philly.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    Cliffy6745 said:

    The Juggler said:

    The above Cole Hamels comment.....eh, yeah, par for the course I guess

    Jesus...

    And the best part is that he thinks Ryan Howard is gods gift to philly.
    And even better - the hypocrisy that we take Howard for granted. Also, on his logic it's ok to take Hamels for granted for winning us a title, but we cannot take Andy Reid for granted?

    It is alll so, so rich. I love it.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    edited May 2014
    hey guys i swear i didn't write this article but feel free to take shots at this guy too.

    http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/cole-hamels-not-living-massive-contract

    Hamels is a very good pitcher but has never been a top 5 pitcher in the league and has never come close to the level of Lee or Halladay in their primes. sorry if you guys don't like those facts.

    and before you guys misunderstand my point i don't give a fuck about his contract but the fact that his era is 44th in the league since signing it doesn't bode real well for him being a dominating pitcher. people act like he is on Lee or Halladay's level and he really never has been other than the 2008 playof run.
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,273
    pjhawks said:

    hey guys i swear i didn't write this article but feel free to take shots at this guy too.

    http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/cole-hamels-not-living-massive-contract

    Hamels is a very good pitcher but has never been a top 5 pitcher in the league and has never come close to the level of Lee or Halladay in their primes. sorry if you guys don't like those facts.

    and before you guys misunderstand my point i don't give a fuck about his contract but the fact that his era is 44th in the league since signing it doesn't bode real well for him being a dominating pitcher. people act like he is on Lee or Halladay's level and he really never has been other than the 2008 playof run.

    I tried to tell you, way back when, that Jonathan Sanchez was just as good :))
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    This just might be the dumbest argument anyone has made in any of these threads.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    imalive said:

    pjhawks said:

    hey guys i swear i didn't write this article but feel free to take shots at this guy too.

    http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/cole-hamels-not-living-massive-contract

    Hamels is a very good pitcher but has never been a top 5 pitcher in the league and has never come close to the level of Lee or Halladay in their primes. sorry if you guys don't like those facts.

    and before you guys misunderstand my point i don't give a fuck about his contract but the fact that his era is 44th in the league since signing it doesn't bode real well for him being a dominating pitcher. people act like he is on Lee or Halladay's level and he really never has been other than the 2008 playof run.

    I tried to tell you, way back when, that Jonathan Sanchez was just as good :))
    uh oh you might have pissed off the hipsters now since you don't agree with them. you could be next on their target list. :-j
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    edited May 2014
    pjhawks said:

    imalive said:

    pjhawks said:

    hey guys i swear i didn't write this article but feel free to take shots at this guy too.

    http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/cole-hamels-not-living-massive-contract

    Hamels is a very good pitcher but has never been a top 5 pitcher in the league and has never come close to the level of Lee or Halladay in their primes. sorry if you guys don't like those facts.

    and before you guys misunderstand my point i don't give a fuck about his contract but the fact that his era is 44th in the league since signing it doesn't bode real well for him being a dominating pitcher. people act like he is on Lee or Halladay's level and he really never has been other than the 2008 playof run.

    I tried to tell you, way back when, that Jonathan Sanchez was just as good :))
    uh oh you might have pissed off the hipsters now since you don't agree with them. you could be next on their target list. :-j
    I find it comical someone thinks I am a hipster.

  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:

    This just might be the dumbest argument anyone has made in any of these threads.

    I hope you are referring to Sanchez vs. Hamels and not what I posted. surely you don't think Hamels is as good as Lee or Halladay was in his prime. either way I got a few off the top of my head that are far away worse.

    philly traffic vs. dc traffic?
    Ross Gload over Ryan Howard?
    Eagles defense better than Super Bowl Champs Giants Defense?


  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    This just might be the dumbest argument anyone has made in any of these threads.

    I hope you are referring to Sanchez vs. Hamels and not what I posted. surely you don't think Hamels is as good as Lee or Halladay was in his prime. either way I got a few off the top of my head that are far away worse.

    philly traffic vs. dc traffic?
    Ross Gload over Ryan Howard?
    Eagles defense better than Super Bowl Champs Giants Defense?


    Ryan Howard over Ted Williams
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    This just might be the dumbest argument anyone has made in any of these threads.

    I hope you are referring to Sanchez vs. Hamels and not what I posted. surely you don't think Hamels is as good as Lee or Halladay was in his prime. either way I got a few off the top of my head that are far away worse.

    philly traffic vs. dc traffic?
    Ross Gload over Ryan Howard?
    Eagles defense better than Super Bowl Champs Giants Defense?


    huh?
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    X_X
    Alright, alright, alright!
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Hamels was never worth the deal he got. Ruben gambled and lost once again. He had no other choice but to sign him. Just like the Werth situation. If Ruben pays them the year before,he would have gotten both at much less rates. He gambled and loss just like the Ravens owner did with Flacco. Hamels is a legit #2 pitcher,imo he's not an ACE(ie Verlander,King)
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    Cliffy6745 said:

    pjhawks said:

    imalive said:

    pjhawks said:

    hey guys i swear i didn't write this article but feel free to take shots at this guy too.

    http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/cole-hamels-not-living-massive-contract

    Hamels is a very good pitcher but has never been a top 5 pitcher in the league and has never come close to the level of Lee or Halladay in their primes. sorry if you guys don't like those facts.

    and before you guys misunderstand my point i don't give a fuck about his contract but the fact that his era is 44th in the league since signing it doesn't bode real well for him being a dominating pitcher. people act like he is on Lee or Halladay's level and he really never has been other than the 2008 playof run.

    I tried to tell you, way back when, that Jonathan Sanchez was just as good :))
    uh oh you might have pissed off the hipsters now since you don't agree with them. you could be next on their target list. :-j
    I find it comical someone thinks I am a hipster.

    Same here. I swear this dude has to be one of the precious elite of philly.comments.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    He's ranked in the top 10 of just about every statistical category that matters for a starting pitcher year in, year out.

    I guess I'm missing something here...
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    This is getting bad.
    Alright, alright, alright!
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:

    He's ranked in the top 10 of just about every statistical category that matters for a starting pitcher year in, year out.

    I guess I'm missing something here...

    of course you are. you missed the part of the story i posted where he is 44th in era since signing his contract.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited May 2014
    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    He's ranked in the top 10 of just about every statistical category that matters for a starting pitcher year in, year out.

    I guess I'm missing something here...

    of course you are. you missed the part of the story i posted where he is 44th in era since signing his contract.
    the crux of your argument was that he has never had a dominating year. i'm pointing out that he is consistently one of the top 10 pitchers in the game year in, year out. he struggled a bit last year, obviously but so did a lot of high priced players on this team.

    i don't get how people can under appreciate that kind of production.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    He's ranked in the top 10 of just about every statistical category that matters for a starting pitcher year in, year out.

    I guess I'm missing something here...

    of course you are. you missed the part of the story i posted where he is 44th in era since signing his contract.
    the crux of your argument was that he has never had a dominating year. i'm pointing out that he is consistently one of the top 10 pitchers in the game year in, year out. he struggled a bit last year, obviously but so did a lot of high priced players on this team.

    i don't get how people can under appreciate that kind of production.
    I called him a 'very good pitcher' above. not sure how that is considered under appreciating him. can you pick a year where he has been dominant? his highest cy young rank has been 5th. he hasn't been dominant or better than a top 5 pitcher in the NL for a full season and probably never top 10 in the majors. not a rip on him just a legitimate observation. very good starting pitcher just below the elite. some people like to put him elite because of the 2008 playoffs.

    do you like Ben Revere too or is it ok to criticize him? have you ever seen a starting center fielder misread more fly balls than this guy? it's not really as hard as he makes it seem.

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