PHILLY (Loosely Related to The Philadelphia Phillies)

Cliffy6745

On a side note, the Blue Jays are the only team in the AL East with a positive run differential thanks to you facks

jamminpearls

Jearlpam0925 said:

Both of these knuckleheads are arguing apples to oranges without considering how much pitching is paid at an extremely exorbitant premium.

I love Hamels and I'm glad he's on the team. I blame Ruben for the contract is what i'm saying. If he payed him the year before the contract wouldn't be an issue. I think Cole is a top 20 guy,so i'm deff not beating him up.

JK_Livin

No player will ever live up to $100+ million deal. Can Trout have better seasons than he has already? It will be tough for him.

Cliffy6745

JK_Livin said:

No player will ever live up to $100+ million deal. Can Trout have better seasons than he has already? It will be tough for him.

$100 million? Nonsense. Just because salaries are inflated compared to 10 years ago doesn't mean no one will live up to them.

Jearlpam0925

pjhawks said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Both of these knuckleheads are arguing apples to oranges without considering how much pitching is paid at an extremely exorbitant premium.

clearly you missed the part where i said i didn't a fuck about his contract.

so do you think he is better than any of those pitchers listed above? and do you think Juggler was right in saying he has been dominate for 5 years?

pretty simple yes/no questions. ill wait for your answers although i'm still waiting on Juggler to tell me which of the 5 years he thinks were 'dominate'.

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

He's ranked in the top 10 of just about every statistical category that matters for a starting pitcher year in, year out.

I guess I'm missing something here...

of course you are. you missed the part of the story i posted where he is 44th in era since signing his contract.

Your whole argument is based upon the contract.

Logic is not your friend, friend.

Ahh, this is great.

And, yes, I would call the numbers Jeags put up dominant. Dude's a top 3/5 left-handed pitcher. No, but continue to make a mountain out of molehill. The irony is rich on your underappreciation of Cole Hamels and your complete ball slurping of Ryan Howard and Andy Reid.

pjhawks

Jearlpam0925 said:

pjhawks said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Both of these knuckleheads are arguing apples to oranges without considering how much pitching is paid at an extremely exorbitant premium.

clearly you missed the part where i said i didn't a fuck about his contract.

so do you think he is better than any of those pitchers listed above? and do you think Juggler was right in saying he has been dominate for 5 years?

pretty simple yes/no questions. ill wait for your answers although i'm still waiting on Juggler to tell me which of the 5 years he thinks were 'dominate'.

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

He's ranked in the top 10 of just about every statistical category that matters for a starting pitcher year in, year out.

I guess I'm missing something here...

of course you are. you missed the part of the story i posted where he is 44th in era since signing his contract.

Your whole argument is based upon the contract.

Logic is not your friend, friend.

Ahh, this is great.

And, yes, I would call the numbers Jeags put up dominant. Dude's a top 3/5 left-handed pitcher. No, but continue to make a mountain out of molehill. The irony is rich on your underappreciation of Cole Hamels and your complete ball slurping of Ryan Howard and Andy Reid.

never once did i make any argument regarding his contract. if you can show me differently i'd surely admit i was mistaken.

if calling a guy a 'very good pitcher' is under appreciating someone then by that standard i'm guilty but i don't think calling someone 'very good' is a negative in any way shape or form.

if someone called ryan today or even in the past 'very good' i wouldn't have a problem with it. big difference between saying someone sucks, is a stiff and you'd rather have ross gload over him than calling cole hamels 'very good' don't you think? it's not like i said i'd rather have kyle kendrick over him. so there is no irony there at all.

by your and jugglers definition there were something close to 10 dominant pitchers in the National League last year. I'd say there were 3 dominate pitchers in NL last year: Kershaw, Fernandez and Harvey.

and if you disagree i'm fine with that. i'd rather hear why you disagree other than just lob shots at me though.

Jearlpam0925

Again....

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

He's ranked in the top 10 of just about every statistical category that matters for a starting pitcher year in, year out.

I guess I'm missing something here...

of course you are. you missed the part of the story i posted where he is 44th in era since signing his contract.

I could do this all day. Hilarious.

jamminpearls

Jearlpam0925 said:

Again....

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

He's ranked in the top 10 of just about every statistical category that matters for a starting pitcher year in, year out.

I guess I'm missing something here...

of course you are. you missed the part of the story i posted where he is 44th in era since signing his contract.

I could do this all day. Hilarious.

I don't think he's saying the contract was bad. I think he's saying since he signed it has he been elite. I'm not ripping Hamels either. My problem is with Amaro.

pjhawks

Jearlpam0925 said:

Again....

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

He's ranked in the top 10 of just about every statistical category that matters for a starting pitcher year in, year out.

I guess I'm missing something here...

of course you are. you missed the part of the story i posted where he is 44th in era since signing his contract.

I could do this all day. Hilarious.

it is hilarious since you clearly have no comprehension at all. I have never once said Cole is not dominate because he earns $18 million a year. NEVER ONCE.

the part about the contract was from the article i posted and was the starting point of where they talked about his era NOT BEING IN THE 10 as juggler stated. the CONTACT NUMBERS HAVE ZERO to do with my thoughts on Cole Hamels. i guess quoting from the article instead of saying since 2011 (or whenever the fuck he signed said contract) was wrong on my part. whether he earns $25 dollars of $25 million doesn't make him a better or worse pitcher.

why is rating a player based on performance regardless of a contract such a hard concept for some people to fucking understand? i don't give a flying fuck what someone earns. because you earn less doesn't make you a better player and vice versa. I never have and never will care what a player earns. it's all about on-field performance.

not this fucking difficult people. really isn't

The Juggler

Wow

This is hilarious...and a little sad at the same time.

Jearlpam0925

The Juggler said:

Wow

This is hilarious...and a little sad at the same time.

Hahahahahaha....

Mostly sad. I'm picturing a guy who lives in his mom's basement, and argues with himself when in the bathroom pretending we're the guy on the other side of the mirror.

Wobbie

help me out....has pjhawks taken over for the fixer as your whipping boy?

I got your back, hawks.

Jearlpam0925

imalive said:

help me out....has pjhawks taken over for the fixer as your whipping boy?

I got your back, hawks.

Fixer was my whipping boy? T-what? I don't see how that is.... On the contrary, that guy knows what he's talking about.

Not enough going on in the Giants thread I'm assuming?

Alls I'm saying is this guy hasn't made any sense out of his comments yet, and they're for no other reason but to throw fuel on an unwanted argument/debate/conversation/what-have-you. He must be getting bored with pulling the lint from his belly button.

eeriepadave

Mets this weekend, let's get at least 2 of the 3.

pjhawks

Jearlpam0925 said:

imalive said:

help me out....has pjhawks taken over for the fixer as your whipping boy?

I got your back, hawks.

clearly a few on here still act like they are still in middle school. it really is sad that when someone offers a contrary opinion all they can do is lob insults but i really should expect it by now.

i stand 100% behind my opinion that Cole is a very good pitcher but not a dominate one.

The Juggler

pjhawks said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

imalive said:

help me out....has pjhawks taken over for the fixer as your whipping boy?

I got your back, hawks.

clearly a few on here still act like they are still in middle school. it really is sad that when someone offers a contrary opinion all they can do is lob insults but i really should expect it by now.

i stand 100% behind my opinion that Cole is a very good pitcher but not a dominate one.

yet andy reid is a great coach!....alright, i'm done.
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BEAT THE METS, BEAT THE METS, STEP RIGHT UP AAAAAAAAANNNND


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cutz

JK_Livin said:

I wish Trout was here on a weekend.

You live in South Jersey. Did you see him when he was playing at Millville High School?

JK_Livin

No. Millville is about an hour south of Mount Laurel. I never heard of him until he was drafted. I don't follow HS ball.

eeriepadave

eeriepadave said:

Mets this weekend, let's get at least 2 of the 3.

sweep would also be nice

although cole is pitching :-S

The Juggler

eeriepadave said:

eeriepadave said:

Mets this weekend, let's get at least 2 of the 3.

sweep would also be nice

although cole is pitching :-S

...going for win number 100 on his career

eeriepadave

The Juggler said:

eeriepadave said:

eeriepadave said:

Mets this weekend, let's get at least 2 of the 3.

sweep would also be nice

although cole is pitching :-S

...going for win number 100 on his career

fucking Bastard(o)! X(

Ledbetterman10

eeriepadave said:

The Juggler said:

eeriepadave said:

eeriepadave said:

Mets this weekend, let's get at least 2 of the 3.

sweep would also be nice

although cole is pitching :-S

...going for win number 100 on his career

fucking Bastard(o)! X(

It's a damn shame that he's not on the hook for the loss. Fucking scoring rules.

eeriepadave

that sucked. aside from Pappelbon (can't believe i said that) our bullpen really does suck. Never really sunk in how bad until recently though, lol. :-q

Wobbie

Jearlpam0925 said:

imalive said:

help me out....has pjhawks taken over for the fixer as your whipping boy?

I got your back, hawks.

Fixer was my whipping boy? T-what? I don't see how that is.... On the contrary, that guy knows what he's talking about.

Not enough going on in the Giants thread I'm assuming?

there's not shit going on in the first place Giants thread....the occasional d**ger troll (actually, more than occasional) but not much else....the phillies thread is BY FAR the best baseball thread...the gold standard, if you will.

pjhawks

imalive said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

imalive said:

help me out....has pjhawks taken over for the fixer as your whipping boy?

I got your back, hawks.

Fixer was my whipping boy? T-what? I don't see how that is.... On the contrary, that guy knows what he's talking about.

Not enough going on in the Giants thread I'm assuming?

there's not shit going on in the first place Giants thread....the occasional d**ger troll (actually, more than occasional) but not much else....the phillies thread is BY FAR the best baseball thread...the gold standard, if you will.

so would you call this thread 'dominate?' and if so by real people's definition or just by the few in here who have low standards for what is considered dominance?

pjhawks

Bastardo needs to be tasered for his effort this year. almost done with him but just get the feeling they trade him and he kicks ass somewhere else.

utley has to make that play in the 9th.

does dom brown know the season started?

frustrating team. should be a few games over .500 but bullpen and the young guys in general have sucked.

i got Trout going yard 3x in 2 games at CBP this week.

Wobbie

pjhawks said:

imalive said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

imalive said:

help me out....has pjhawks taken over for the fixer as your whipping boy?

I got your back, hawks.

Fixer was my whipping boy? T-what? I don't see how that is.... On the contrary, that guy knows what he's talking about.

Not enough going on in the Giants thread I'm assuming?

there's not shit going on in the first place Giants thread....the occasional d**ger troll (actually, more than occasional) but not much else....the phillies thread is BY FAR the best baseball thread...the gold standard, if you will.

so would you call this thread 'dominate?' and if so by real people's definition or just by the few in here who have low standards for what is considered dominance?

I feel like you're trying to trick me into something with that question )

no, pretty boy hamels is not dominant.

and Ryan Howard? I forgot about him completely until I saw him in a subway commercial.

pjhawks

so Utley and Rollins are about to play their 1100 game together and have now been playing together since 2003 which in years is the 2nd longest of any shortstop and second baseman other than Lou Whitaker and Alan Trammell. man those 11 years have flown by.

with all the Mike Trout talk lost a bit is Raul Ibanez coming back to CBP for the 1st time. He was always a really good guy here and a solid player so hope he gets a nice reception.

Cliffy6745

Holy fuckballs. Jugs, do us a favor shut this down and carry all the phillies business over to the fraud thread. Standing ovation for trout in his first at bat?!?

Wobbie

Cliffy6745 said:

Holy fuckballs. Jugs, do us a favor shut this down and carry all the phillies business over to the fraud thread. Standing ovation for trout in his first at bat?!?

they'll be booing by the 6th.