My bad Greatplansman - a little trigger happy. Shot myself in the foot. Had an epiphany this morning (sans coffee) that maybe Nirvana was included in the list of artists signature series; did a search as soon as i opened up the laptop, saw "Nirvana" pop up and mad the ass move to hit the PJ thread without reading further. All Apologies
Yes, scroll through the comments. Pono acknowledged the mistake and the price of $440 was wrong too. Look through the LE's and you'll see the zz top x of 500 offer
I see the update to 500 now. I bet the person who snagged what looked to be the 1 of 1 ZZ Top is pissed now that there's 500. I wonder if he/she moved their pledge from another artist series because they figured the ZZ Top would be even more rare.
Any word from Neil, etc on what till happen to or how the distribution will occur for the limited artist sig models that do not sell during the Kickstarter campaign?
The cool thing to do would be to make them unavailable but that probably won't happen. At a minimum they should be a little more expensive than the $400 offered to the early backers.
I believe they remain in on-line store for purchase.
Correct - they'll be available on the Pono Music store after the Kickstarter ends, but for a higher price I think. Then the standard ones will be available for $400.
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Project Update #21: A Message to Artists, from Neil Young Posted by the PonoMusic Team ♥ Like A message to Artists:
First, we say “thanks” to all of you artists who have been here with Pono since the beginning. We are deeply grateful for your encouragement and support.
When you and your recording team go into a studio or recording environment to create your latest music, there are many choices for you to make. Besides the studios, songs, players, singers, producers, engineers, microphones, and other equipment, you have the ability to choose from the numerous digital resolutions at your disposal to capture your sound. This is where Pono can make a giant difference.
Now, whatever resolution you choose to employ for your recording process, your masters can be heard by your listeners exactly as you created them. You no longer have to be satisfied with MP3 or CD being what your fans hear. Pono plays back anything you can create, just as you made it, in the digital domain.
Even if you record in analog, when you mix your songs and record them to an analog 2 track, you can copy that to the digital resolution you choose (preferably the highest) and have your listeners hear that exact recording.
If you are an artist who has been recording for years and this has been your life and always will be, your original creations in analog can be transferred to the highest quality digital and heard anew with Pono. No longer do your original recordings have to be the compressed sound of CDs and MP3s. It’s all up to you. It is in your power to rescue your art and bring it into the 21st or record company and learn how to make that available to your listeners on Pono.
If you are a new artist, always released on MP3s and CDs, then your horizon has just been radically expanded. You can now record in whatever resolution you choose and your fans will hear the same quality you heard in the studio. You no longer have to lose part of your sound when it goes to the people. You probably know what I mean, having heard your creation when you mixed it, feeling that rush, only to be let down by the end product, the product your audience has had to accept. You probably know it was better when you first heard it than what they got. That is over. You are no longer limited by a format. Now your audience can hear what you hear.
Go back to your digital masters and see what they sounded like compared to what was released. Now, if you want to, they can all be released in their original glory. If you elect to, you can make the higher-resolution sources of your CDs and MP3s available to your listeners on Pono. It doesn’t matter what resolution you originally employed; if it is higher than what was released, and you can hear the difference, your fans can hear it. They deserve the best and Pono delivers it for you. Pono plays anything back just as you made it.
In the studio, with your brand new creations, high resolution is a great option. Resolutions are all different in their depths and textures. These can be used, and mixed together. A hook can be recorded in a higher resolution than the track it sits on, further setting it apart in your creation. So can a vocal. Resolution is a new tool for you to use. As long as you mix in the highest resolution found in your creation, or higher, everything will be captured. Especially, real echo and acoustic instruments, like drums, benefit from higher resolutions. Don’t take anyone’s word for this. Listen for yourself. Make your own decision. It’s an artistic right you have.
Doing this does not mean you cannot still make CDs and MP3s. They can be derived from your original masters.
Your choices matter now more than ever before because your fans will hear the difference. Thousands of documented Pono listens have proven that music lovers can tell the difference between what they had before with CDs and MP3s and what they can have now with Pono. Look at the videos on ponomusic.com and see the reactions. Those are your people. They feel more from the music with Pono.
High quality digital is wonderful to hear and sense. It is the sound of the 21st Century. Almost no one has heard it outside the studio. As artists, with Ponomusic, we have renewed opportunities for expression that have long been lost.
The Ponomusic player can bring new light to all of your creations through Ponomusic.
Record companies, this is an opportunity to rescue the art of recorded sound. Why should a Frank Sinatra recording or an Adelle recording or a Nirvana, Rolling Stones, Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Who, or classical recording be limited to the CD format for the future? This music is world cultural history. All of this cultural history should be preserved for enjoyment of the people in its highest possible form forever. In the 21st Century, people, and art, deserve this technology.
Bring it on. Now, as never before, it is possible.
Been trying for a while now...saw one available but just missed it
fucking impossible. just total luck really - last time i sat and F5'd all day i ended up with PJ20 tickets and vowed never to do that again - just take my chances. will definitely be the same here!
Why do you think it is that Pearl Jam has been sold out for weeks and bands let RHCP, KoL, Metallica, Dave Matthews, Beck etc have some many left?
My theory is because PJ is different than those other bands in one big way and that is that no one ever asks if the other bands are "still around." It illustrates the gulf between the casual fan and the superfan. Either you're obsessed with PJ, or you think they broke up after Vitalogy and haven't made a record in twenty years. Those other bands however, just about every dude on the street will say something like "uh, yeah, they're alright." I highly doubt he can spent 15 minutes talking about a poster from a show in 2003 that he wasn't even at.
And as for Foo Fighters being sold out, that's a farce. They're only sold out because they were every Pearl Jam fan's second choice...
Why do you think it is that Pearl Jam has been sold out for weeks and bands let RHCP, KoL, Metallica, Dave Matthews, Beck etc have some many left?
My theory is because PJ is different than those other bands in one big way and that is that no one ever asks if the other bands are "still around." It illustrates the gulf between the casual fan and the superfan. Either you're obsessed with PJ, or you think they broke up after Vitalogy and haven't made a record in twenty years. Those other bands however, just about every dude on the street will say something like "uh, yeah, they're alright." I highly doubt he can spent 15 minutes talking about a poster from a show in 2003 that he wasn't even at.
And as for Foo Fighters being sold out, that's a farce. They're only sold out because they were every Pearl Jam fan's second choice...
Metallica fans might still be afraid they are going to sue them if they load their mp3s on there.
The only red flag I see on Pono's site is the album cost are going to range from 14.99 - 24.99 and there is no word on what they are going to charge for individual songs, which I am guessing means they are going to be around 2.99 a song in most cases. Of course the audiophile won't blink at this cost as vinyl is already set the bar for this price point but taking out the cost of manufacturing vinyl it seems win win for the music companies to be able to charge this for digital copies which take out the bulk of the production cost.
Of course this means there is a little more value added to the artist editions if you are getting 2 albums included and potentially adding $50 worth of content thrown in. I am just curious to see for myself how much better this player is really going to sound. Hopefully it is worth the steeper price tags that are going to really make the player shine.
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I have been ripping my vinyl at 24bit/192khz. I hope my ears can tell the difference (using the $400 Pono) between a vinyl to mp3 rip, a vinyl to 44.1khz rip and a vinyl to 192khz rip. Is ripping the vinyl at 24/192 the same quality as buying a song from the Pono store? I'm getting ready to load it all on my Pono come October.
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I have been ripping my vinyl at 24bit/192khz. I hope my ears can tell the difference (using the $400 Pono) between a vinyl to mp3 rip, a vinyl to 44.1khz rip and a vinyl to 192khz rip. Is ripping the vinyl at 24/192 the same quality as buying a song from the Pono store? I'm getting ready to load it all on my Pono come October.
Sounds like a good plan. Yes, from my understanding that will be of similar quality of what the PONO store will provide. The only variable will be what the Artist provides the PONO store with as far as master files. But I think PONO will tell you what you are getting, this will be nice. Less digging around on the internet to find out which master tapes were used and so on. The revolution has begun!!!!
I have been ripping my vinyl at 24bit/192khz. I hope my ears can tell the difference (using the $400 Pono) between a vinyl to mp3 rip, a vinyl to 44.1khz rip and a vinyl to 192khz rip. Is ripping the vinyl at 24/192 the same quality as buying a song from the Pono store? I'm getting ready to load it all on my Pono come October.
Sounds like a good plan. Yes, from my understanding that will be of similar quality of what the PONO store will provide. The only variable will be what the Artist provides the PONO store with as far as master files. But I think PONO will tell you what you are getting, this will be nice. Less digging around on the internet to find out which master tapes were used and so on. The revolution has begun!!!!
AND in the SHOP here we get $9.99 off the HD FLAC shows using the free codes in "My Account". Soooo glad I haven't used them all up yet!
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Alright folks, I'm about ready to step away from my computer for a while again so one should be popping up here momentarily! :- /
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Posted by the PonoMusic Team ♥ Like
A message to Artists:
First, we say “thanks” to all of you artists who have been here with Pono since the beginning. We are deeply grateful for your encouragement and support.
When you and your recording team go into a studio or recording environment to create your latest music, there are many choices for you to make. Besides the studios, songs, players, singers, producers, engineers, microphones, and other equipment, you have the ability to choose from the numerous digital resolutions at your disposal to capture your sound. This is where Pono can make a giant difference.
Now, whatever resolution you choose to employ for your recording process, your masters can be heard by your listeners exactly as you created them. You no longer have to be satisfied with MP3 or CD being what your fans hear. Pono plays back anything you can create, just as you made it, in the digital domain.
Even if you record in analog, when you mix your songs and record them to an analog 2 track, you can copy that to the digital resolution you choose (preferably the highest) and have your listeners hear that exact recording.
If you are an artist who has been recording for years and this has been your life and always will be, your original creations in analog can be transferred to the highest quality digital and heard anew with Pono. No longer do your original recordings have to be the compressed sound of CDs and MP3s. It’s all up to you. It is in your power to rescue your art and bring it into the 21st or record company and learn how to make that available to your listeners on Pono.
If you are a new artist, always released on MP3s and CDs, then your horizon has just been radically expanded. You can now record in whatever resolution you choose and your fans will hear the same quality you heard in the studio. You no longer have to lose part of your sound when it goes to the people. You probably know what I mean, having heard your creation when you mixed it, feeling that rush, only to be let down by the end product, the product your audience has had to accept. You probably know it was better when you first heard it than what they got. That is over. You are no longer limited by a format. Now your audience can hear what you hear.
Go back to your digital masters and see what they sounded like compared to what was released. Now, if you want to, they can all be released in their original glory. If you elect to, you can make the higher-resolution sources of your CDs and MP3s available to your listeners on Pono. It doesn’t matter what resolution you originally employed; if it is higher than what was released, and you can hear the difference, your fans can hear it. They deserve the best and Pono delivers it for you. Pono plays anything back just as you made it.
In the studio, with your brand new creations, high resolution is a great option. Resolutions are all different in their depths and textures. These can be used, and mixed together. A hook can be recorded in a higher resolution than the track it sits on, further setting it apart in your creation. So can a vocal. Resolution is a new tool for you to use. As long as you mix in the highest resolution found in your creation, or higher, everything will be captured. Especially, real echo and acoustic instruments, like drums, benefit from higher resolutions. Don’t take anyone’s word for this. Listen for yourself. Make your own decision. It’s an artistic right you have.
Doing this does not mean you cannot still make CDs and MP3s. They can be derived from your original masters.
Your choices matter now more than ever before because your fans will hear the difference. Thousands of documented Pono listens have proven that music lovers can tell the difference between what they had before with CDs and MP3s and what they can have now with Pono. Look at the videos on ponomusic.com and see the reactions. Those are your people. They feel more from the music with Pono.
High quality digital is wonderful to hear and sense. It is the sound of the 21st Century. Almost no one has heard it outside the studio. As artists, with Ponomusic, we have renewed opportunities for expression that have long been lost.
The Ponomusic player can bring new light to all of your creations through Ponomusic.
Record companies, this is an opportunity to rescue the art of recorded sound. Why should a Frank Sinatra recording or an Adelle recording or a Nirvana, Rolling Stones, Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Who, or classical recording be limited to the CD format for the future? This music is world cultural history. All of this cultural history should be preserved for enjoyment of the people in its highest possible form forever. In the 21st Century, people, and art, deserve this technology.
Bring it on. Now, as never before, it is possible.
Our listeners should hear what we heard.
Thanks for listening.
Neil Young
Pono
My theory is because PJ is different than those other bands in one big way and that is that no one ever asks if the other bands are "still around." It illustrates the gulf between the casual fan and the superfan. Either you're obsessed with PJ, or you think they broke up after Vitalogy and haven't made a record in twenty years. Those other bands however, just about every dude on the street will say something like "uh, yeah, they're alright." I highly doubt he can spent 15 minutes talking about a poster from a show in 2003 that he wasn't even at.
And as for Foo Fighters being sold out, that's a farce. They're only sold out because they were every Pearl Jam fan's second choice...
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The only red flag I see on Pono's site is the album cost are going to range from 14.99 - 24.99 and there is no word on what they are going to charge for individual songs, which I am guessing means they are going to be around 2.99 a song in most cases. Of course the audiophile won't blink at this cost as vinyl is already set the bar for this price point but taking out the cost of manufacturing vinyl it seems win win for the music companies to be able to charge this for digital copies which take out the bulk of the production cost.
Of course this means there is a little more value added to the artist editions if you are getting 2 albums included and potentially adding $50 worth of content thrown in. I am just curious to see for myself how much better this player is really going to sound. Hopefully it is worth the steeper price tags that are going to really make the player shine.
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I'm getting ready to load it all on my Pono come October.