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Pearl Jam limited edition chrome Pono Player

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    october22october22 Posts: 2,533
    JB128716 said:

    So when it says the artist will preload their top two favorite albums, I'm assuming that means PJ's Pono comes with two PJ albums.

    If that's the case, I bet it's Ten and Lightning Bolt.

    If it's other artist, maybe The Who and The Ramones.

    It will be two albums from that specific artist. It was a little confusing but they answered it in one of the updates. I seriously hope one of them is Binaural (best album and most suited for this, although PJ doesn't like it for some reason). Next would be No Code or Vitalogy. Really hoping it's not Ten and LB...
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    JB128716JB128716 Posts: 2,064
    october22 said:

    JB128716 said:

    So when it says the artist will preload their top two favorite albums, I'm assuming that means PJ's Pono comes with two PJ albums.

    If that's the case, I bet it's Ten and Lightning Bolt.

    If it's other artist, maybe The Who and The Ramones.

    It will be two albums from that specific artist. It was a little confusing but they answered it in one of the updates. I seriously hope one of them is Binaural (best album and most suited for this, although PJ doesn't like it for some reason). Next would be No Code or Vitalogy. Really hoping it's not Ten and LB...
    I just makes sense to promote your latest album and also supply your most popular album.

    With that said, I wouldn't mind PJ 20 and/or a Wrigley Boot.

    :)

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    JB128716JB128716 Posts: 2,064
    Or if they go by sales figures, it would be Ten and VS.

    Either way, my Pono will be filled with their entire catelog.
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    03 - Tampa
    08 - Tampa
    12 - DeLuna Fest, EV Orlando 1 & 2, EV Ft Lauderdale 1 & 2
    13 - Wrigley!!! ,Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford, OKC, Seattle
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    jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,876
    To echo some previous posts.....HOLY FRIGGIN' SMOKES THE NY&CH SOLD OUT FAST!!! :-O
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    weddingparadeweddingparade Posts: 1,179
    does this mean to hear pono versions of everything i already own i have to repurchase everything that i already own via pono?

    that's just f'n silly imo. i remember super crazy audiophiles laughed that mp3's wouldn't rule the world. ha ha

    $12 eggs or $18 for a new pono release or right click download....

    the rich keep getting richer and i will eat my words if they offer new pono releases for $9.99 but it ain't gonna happen. sorry to break the news to ya.
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    october22october22 Posts: 2,533

    does this mean to hear pono versions of everything i already own i have to repurchase everything that i already own via pono?

    that's just f'n silly imo. i remember super crazy audiophiles laughed that mp3's wouldn't rule the world. ha ha

    $12 eggs or $18 for a new pono release or right click download....

    the rich keep getting richer and i will eat my words if they offer new pono releases for $9.99 but it ain't gonna happen. sorry to break the news to ya.

    You're not breaking news to anyone and no, you don't have to replace everything you own. If you want cd quality on a portable device, you can rip your old CDs and play them on Pono or you can keep stealing music in FLAC and put it on there. I agree, the cost of the Pono music via their store seems ridiculous. It might not get to $9.99 for a long time or ever but I hope it does get cheaper.
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    october22october22 Posts: 2,533
    One great solution would be a free Pono download with vinyl purchase. Problem solved for me.
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    WhyNotSwedenWhyNotSweden Sweden Posts: 4,280
    Does anyone know if its only say Pear Jam or is it a signature from all members on it?
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    jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,876

    Does anyone know if its only say Pear Jam or is it a signature from all members on it?

    They've not specified; however, there's a pic of the Dave Matthews Band PONO on the Kickstarter page that only shows Dave's auto.
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    aurynsdadaurynsdad Posts: 862
    edited March 2014
    I was turned off by the "buy your music twice" aspect of this, but I'm thinking that if I ever get into needle-dropping, maybe it will be a cool way to take my record collection with me on the road. Anyone have any thoughts on whether that would offer any kind of advantage over just making CDs?
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    weddingparadeweddingparade Posts: 1,179
    october22 said:


    does this mean to hear pono versions of everything i already own i have to repurchase everything that i already own via pono?

    that's just f'n silly imo. i remember super crazy audiophiles laughed that mp3's wouldn't rule the world. ha ha

    $12 eggs or $18 for a new pono release or right click download....

    the rich keep getting richer and i will eat my words if they offer new pono releases for $9.99 but it ain't gonna happen. sorry to break the news to ya.

    You're not breaking news to anyone and no, you don't have to replace everything you own. If you want cd quality on a portable device, you can rip your old CDs and play them on Pono or you can keep stealing music in FLAC and put it on there. I agree, the cost of the Pono music via their store seems ridiculous. It might not get to $9.99 for a long time or ever but I hope it does get cheaper.
    pono new releases will not be cheaper than buying new cds and with my record/cd collection, as it stands now, it's futile to want to go backwards. i don't steal music but millions of people do. i just used that as a point in this conversation
    it's like how many people buys records vs cds, now-a-days? sure vinyl is "bigger than it ever was" but until they produce vinyl for the same price as cds i aint buying it. pono is a money grab that i am not going to participate in.

    this situation reminds of sony beta vhs.

    pono will not survive unless they go head to head with itunes from the get go ON PRICE ALONE. imo
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    weddingparadeweddingparade Posts: 1,179
    october22 said:

    One great solution would be a free Pono download with vinyl purchase. Problem solved for me.

    vinyl is a very limited market even if they offer this "deal"
    everything is itune singles these days. people aren't even buying cds like they use to.
    pono must compete with itunes and it should be a hellofa battle for them=we might win in the end but i aint' jumping on board right away ;)
    i believe in the basics of pono but i'm also sick and tired for paying too much for cds(new releases). they should be $9.99 MAX IMO
    good luck pono but you will find the consumer will set this price. not you!
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    tribejammer05tribejammer05 W'Ville, OH Posts: 696
    jjflash said:

    Does anyone know if its only say Pear Jam or is it a signature from all members on it?

    They've not specified; however, there's a pic of the Dave Matthews Band PONO on the Kickstarter page that only shows Dave's auto.
    There's a update or comment from Pono saying it will have all signatures of all current members.
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    tribejammer05tribejammer05 W'Ville, OH Posts: 696
    And I agree - Binaural was made for this.
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 88,664

    october22 said:


    does this mean to hear pono versions of everything i already own i have to repurchase everything that i already own via pono?

    that's just f'n silly imo. i remember super crazy audiophiles laughed that mp3's wouldn't rule the world. ha ha

    $12 eggs or $18 for a new pono release or right click download....

    the rich keep getting richer and i will eat my words if they offer new pono releases for $9.99 but it ain't gonna happen. sorry to break the news to ya.

    You're not breaking news to anyone and no, you don't have to replace everything you own. If you want cd quality on a portable device, you can rip your old CDs and play them on Pono or you can keep stealing music in FLAC and put it on there. I agree, the cost of the Pono music via their store seems ridiculous. It might not get to $9.99 for a long time or ever but I hope it does get cheaper.
    pono new releases will not be cheaper than buying new cds and with my record/cd collection, as it stands now, it's futile to want to go backwards. i don't steal music but millions of people do. i just used that as a point in this conversation
    it's like how many people buys records vs cds, now-a-days? sure vinyl is "bigger than it ever was" but until they produce vinyl for the same price as cds i aint buying it. pono is a money grab that i am not going to participate in.

    this situation reminds of sony beta vhs.

    pono will not survive unless they go head to head with itunes from the get go ON PRICE ALONE. imo
    Price? So you want Pono Music to sell a 1 GB+ album for $9.99, where as iTunes sells an 80MB+ album for $9.99?:/ You are comparing an inferior MP3 / M4a album from iTunes to a 24 Bit Flac-HD album from Pono Music.

    Does iTunes sell Alac & Alac-HD files? How much are they selling these formats for? .. I have no idea cause I don't use Apple products.

    http://www.livedownloads.com/live-music/0,10085/Pearl-Jam-mp3-flac-download-12-6-2013-Key-Arena-Seattle-WA.html

    An Alac-HD download for a Pearl Jam show is $19.95. That's 3GB's

    Apple & iTunes are totally making a shit load of money providing their customers will inferior audio MP3 for $9.99. Bandwidth is so cheap these day's that it's awful to even pay that much these day's for a cheap MB album download.

    During the HD-DVD wars that's what they said about the Bluray disc. That it would flop like Beta. But look who won that war. Blu-ray! ;)

    It would be nuts to buy back all your favorite albums again to hear them for the first time in gorgeous ultra high resolution 9216 kbps (192 kHz/24 bit) quality. Dedicated fan's of the band, album and songs will check it out and experience it. Many won't. Just like those out there that never paid for an inferior MP3 album from iTunes.

    Everyone has a choice. And everyone's taste is different.

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    100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 8,647
    If you're an audiophile, this is porn for your ears.

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    weddingparadeweddingparade Posts: 1,179
    edited March 2014
    yawn. hdcd. dvd audio. 24-128bit lol lol. do u think that most people care? really?

    like i have said pono ia a very limited market. most people won't pay the upcharge. i wont.

    show me something that competes on price with itunes and i will be interested

    it's all about price which is exactly why people illegally download
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    JV130312JV130312 STATE OF LOVE & TRUST Posts: 2,418
    $400.00 for a Pono? lol...wow. What a waste of cash...
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    JB128716JB128716 Posts: 2,064
    edited March 2014
    The fact is, if Pono is successful, Apple can just turn around and offer higher quality music files on iTunes, offer a device that can play it, and wipe Pono off the face of the earth.

    Steve Jobs might have led the team that created iTunes, but it is widely known he listened to records at his house.
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    03 - Tampa
    08 - Tampa
    12 - DeLuna Fest, EV Orlando 1 & 2, EV Ft Lauderdale 1 & 2
    13 - Wrigley!!! ,Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford, OKC, Seattle
    14 - Leeds, Milton Keynes, St Louis
    16 - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Wrigley 1 & 2
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,741
    october22 said:

    JB128716 said:

    So when it says the artist will preload their top two favorite albums, I'm assuming that means PJ's Pono comes with two PJ albums.

    If that's the case, I bet it's Ten and Lightning Bolt.

    If it's other artist, maybe The Who and The Ramones.

    It will be two albums from that specific artist. It was a little confusing but they answered it in one of the updates. I seriously hope one of them is Binaural (best album and most suited for this, although PJ doesn't like it for some reason). Next would be No Code or Vitalogy. Really hoping it's not Ten and LB...
    If they are being honest about their two favorite albums, it won't be Ten (if they are placating people i guess it's a possibility, but still unlikely). Lightning Bolt for sure if Eddie has anything to do with it, which he obviously will. The other one i think will be either Yield or Binaural.
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    This is Epic! I dont see why anyone could have a problem with this. As good or better than vinyl sound in the palm of your hand! Plus signed/engraved by my hero's! No ink to bleed over time! Metal engraved! With a hand made leather pouch and 2 pre-loaded albums (doesnt matter which 2 because we will buy them all eventually)! For $100 more than the standard $300 black pono (which will be $400 retail after the kickstarter) Yes, I have the cassettes, cds, vinyl, mp3's already, but they dont sound like Pono promises to! Technology takes time and the Time is now! We all would by a poster signed by the band for $400, so why not this limited edition /500 Pono player that allows you to have Studio quality music Anywhere! I believe this will become the Ultimate Holy Grail for True Pearl Jam fanatics (not the merch fans). Only 500 ever in existence is 4x more rare than any Benaroya Hall vinyl and you can actually listen to it and enjoy it rather than potentially devalue it by breaking the seal. I am beyond excited to hear the Pono with $300 headphones. October cant come soon enough. Not to mention, uncle Neil Young is the mastermind behind all this! The Man has more musical integrity than the entire industry combined! Congrats to all that were able to obtain a Pearl Jam signature series!!! Only thing that would be more appropriate is if the Pearl Jam players were made of Gold!
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    The Crosby Stills Nash and Young will also have historical significance, as an argument can be made they were the 1st Super Group!
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    JB128716 said:

    The fact is, if Pono is successful, Apple can just turn around and offer higher quality music files on iTunes, offer a device that can play it, and wipe Pono off the face of the earth.

    Steve Jobs might have led the team that created iTunes, but it is widely known he listened to records at his house.

    I don't think this will happen. High quality digital music is a niche market and Apple has no interest in niche markets, they want mass product. Also, Ipod/Iphones would have to be much bigger in size to be able to offer good quality sound (like PONO) and I really don't see that happen.


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    JB128716JB128716 Posts: 2,064

    JB128716 said:

    The fact is, if Pono is successful, Apple can just turn around and offer higher quality music files on iTunes, offer a device that can play it, and wipe Pono off the face of the earth.

    Steve Jobs might have led the team that created iTunes, but it is widely known he listened to records at his house.

    I don't think this will happen. High quality digital music is a niche market and Apple has no interest in niche markets, they want mass product. Also, Ipod/Iphones would have to be much bigger in size to be able to offer good quality sound (like PONO) and I really don't see that happen.


    They already have 160GB iPods.
    They have their own HD audio file (which you can find on places like Nugs).
    Their iPhones can already play higher quality files.
    It wouldn't take much for them to make this jump and if it means they can wipe out a competitor, why wouldn't they do it?
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    12 - DeLuna Fest, EV Orlando 1 & 2, EV Ft Lauderdale 1 & 2
    13 - Wrigley!!! ,Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford, OKC, Seattle
    14 - Leeds, Milton Keynes, St Louis
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 88,664
    Project Update #10: PonoMusic Quality Spectrum
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    Hi everyone,

    We created a PonoMusic Quality Spectrum visual for your viewing. Check it out!

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    PonoMusic Quality SpectrumPonoMusic Quality Spectrum

    The PonoMusic.com Store uses FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) audio format as its standard, for compatibility, although the PonoPlayer can play most popular high-resolution music formats from other sources. PonoMusic has a quality spectrum, ranging from really good to really great, depending on the quality of the available master recordings:

    • CD lossless quality recordings: 1411 kbps (44.1 kHz/16 bit) FLAC files

    • High-resolution recordings: 2304 kbps (48 kHz/24 bit) FLAC files

    • Higher-resolution recordings: 4608 kbps (96 kHz/24 bit) FLAC files

    • Ultra-high resolution recordings: 9216 kbps (192 kHz/24 bit) FLAC files
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,618
    I hope they don't get carpal tunnel from engraving 500 ponos. Hoping for shows soon.
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    TheseGoToElevenTheseGoToEleven Charlotte, NC Posts: 106
    From my perspective: What many people seem to be overlooking, likely after succumbing to the impressive marketing/hype machine: at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if it is iTunes AAC or FLAC, Death Magnetic's master is still Death Magnetic's master (to be blunt: a turd in losseless/FLAC is still a turd).

    Now I do like where they're going with making entry-level audiophile devices easier on the wallet (specifically, the inclusion of a decent onboard DAC), because we all know the audiophile market is incredible expensive to get into (which I argue is done on purpose considering the demographic interested in it), but at the end of the day all of this is just marketing and branding of things we already have to make it seem revolutionary.

    A real revolution would be to put a big chunk of this money towards going back and remastering/mixing some of the great albums from the past 30 years that didn't stand a chance once they made it out of the studio, THEN making those available in a high-resolution lossless format for a GOOD price ($8-12 rather than $15-25). I'm still holding on to hope that this will be part of all of this, but from what I've heard from Neil so far, the masters are what the masters are and PonoMusic will simply provide them in FLAC.

    Until I read otherwise I'll be enjoying my iPhone and Spotify digitally and spinning vinyl/CDs (whichever master sounds better) at home. I hope they wind up changing my mind, because if the vinyl resurgence is any indication, there are at least a large minority more interested in a deeper relationship with music now that the digital dust is starting to settle. That's a good thing.
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 88,664
    Eddie Vedder - The Pono Experience! New video!!


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    ^anyone know what kind of camera eddie is using? some type of super 8 i'm assuming?
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,741
    edited March 2014

    october22 said:

    One great solution would be a free Pono download with vinyl purchase. Problem solved for me.

    vinyl is a very limited market even if they offer this "deal"
    everything is itune singles these days. people aren't even buying cds like they use to.
    pono must compete with itunes and it should be a hellofa battle for them=we might win in the end but i aint' jumping on board right away ;)
    i believe in the basics of pono but i'm also sick and tired for paying too much for cds(new releases). they should be $9.99 MAX IMO
    good luck pono but you will find the consumer will set this price. not you!
    I think you're forgetting about the value of niche markets. Artists find value in releasing vinyl, which obviously compete with the digital market too... No reason why Pono can't go along the same lines as a profitable format. It isn't beat itunes or die.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,741
    JB128716 said:

    JB128716 said:

    The fact is, if Pono is successful, Apple can just turn around and offer higher quality music files on iTunes, offer a device that can play it, and wipe Pono off the face of the earth.

    Steve Jobs might have led the team that created iTunes, but it is widely known he listened to records at his house.

    I don't think this will happen. High quality digital music is a niche market and Apple has no interest in niche markets, they want mass product. Also, Ipod/Iphones would have to be much bigger in size to be able to offer good quality sound (like PONO) and I really don't see that happen.


    They already have 160GB iPods.
    They have their own HD audio file (which you can find on places like Nugs).
    Their iPhones can already play higher quality files.
    It wouldn't take much for them to make this jump and if it means they can wipe out a competitor, why wouldn't they do it?
    There may be patent issues...
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