Isn't it too long to even have a chance on commercial radio - it's almost 6min?
And is the guitarr solo really needed? It's like they tried their hardest to fill the song up with anything that made Guns and Roses early 90's epics hits, guitarr solos, piano etc etc. This song really tries to be an epic lovesong, while their best "love songs" are ones that don't try to be.
This nails it for me. I hadn't quite put my finger on it, but this is it. There's too much piled on here- it tries to hard. Yes, the ones that don't try to be big, the ballads and love songs that sound like they come more naturally- those are the great ones.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
you know what..
i usually get pissed with negative comments..
but this time im actually happy see them..and the reason is that most people saying they dont like the song cos
pj change to something different.....
well..i love it..cos i want a fuckin 50 years old man to act like one and not act like how was as teenager..
i did all that crazy shit when i was 20 years old, i was pissed with all and everything,i cared only to get laid and get drunk..no care about feelings,or any important things..
after 22 years i want the band to put out their experience in life,by puting that in music and lyrics
, and not try to pass me the image of the oldie stay forever fake aqngry teenager..
and talk to me about important things,
and fuckin Love is one of them...
Love has alot of diffirent sounds and different colors..
sometimes Love talks you via colors..and can be fuckin Black...
sometimes transformed to sound ...and in your head,,you listen to Sirens
Thank You Mike and Pearl Jam for this song..
im very happy that your music and lyrics after all this years still create feelings to me.....
and im more happy cos this Brilliant song talk to my fuckin soul.....
even if you choose to stay, I'll wait, I'll understand...
However ....its not easy the Fear to Go Away..
That's cool Dimi. .... But I just want to mention that I really don't think the poeple who dislike this song dislike it because EV isn't acting like a teenager. I think it has NOTHING to do with that at all. I think I said before that someone can like a matured PJ and still not like this particular song because they simply don't like its style or the way it sounds. For me, it starts out okay, and there are certain parts that are okay, but I think there are some bad arrangement choices, places where EV's (amazing) voice should not have gone up, but down instead... It really does sound like Daughtry type music. I am happy that it affected a lot of people in a positive way though. The lyrics certainly are romantic and relatable, and there is nothing wrong with that.
im sure you will like it more with time or live..and i know very well Allison,that you put things down and explain what you like or not..but not all are as you here./.
the problem actually is the lebel.."cheesy ballad"..means for some,isnt cool for me,the angry lost teenager ,but now 45 years old dont want this shit,cos i was the cool dude at high school that listen to grunge while others listening to aerosmith and Guns & Roses/.
well,i tell u this,if tomorrow Madonna put out a brilliant song,ill like it and listen it all day ,and i dont care if "rock "people think if its "cool" or not to listen to Madonna songs.
Well, we'll see how it goes live. Maybe I will enjoy it, who knows... And just because it's confusing me and it makes me feel conflicted, it still doesn't mean I hate it. I still maintain that EV's voice sounds amazing, to the point that I can't hate the song even if I try. I know some people's heads are going to explode because of their disdain for this song, and I understand why, but I am definitely not one of those people. I won't even be skipping it when I listen to the album, so I don't feel that bad about it.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Is this what it was like when No Code was released...
change is good!
Re:No Code. For the mainstream public, yeah sorta. There wasn't a widespread internet community of PJ fans like now, there wasn't really a widespread internet, period. And there also wasn't a big radio single; Who You Are came out prior to album, but it didn't really get played on the radio. So people had to check out the album (i.e. buy it or listen to a friend's copy) to get to the fact of it: Totally Different Pearl Jam. And when they did check it out, a gigantic portion of fans just walked away. (the shitty fans, and there were a lot of them). What was left built up what's here today, the best fan base for any band.
This is why I love pearl jam. So many times they have stopped us in our tracks, made us feel conflicted, forced us to listen with our heads cocked to the side saying, "what was that again?!?" They make us think, challenge us to stretch a little. This is what I have been craving.
And....I just can not get over Mike all wrapped up in guitars. . Love it!
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Is this what it was like when No Code was released...
change is good!
Re:No Code. For the mainstream public, yeah sorta. There wasn't a widespread internet community of PJ fans like now, there wasn't really a widespread internet, period. And there also wasn't a big radio single; Who You Are came out prior to album, but it didn't really get played on the radio. So people had to check out the album (i.e. buy it or listen to a friend's copy) to get to the fact of it: Totally Different Pearl Jam. And when they did check it out, a gigantic portion of fans just walked away. (the shitty fans, and there were a lot of them). What was left built up what's here today, the best fan base for any band.
This album is nowhere near that drastic, imo.
I think its slowly filtering out those fans who don't like mainstream PJ songs. I personally think its exactly what the band needs to be doing with their music and can't wait for LB. I think its very U2ish, Coldplayish and I love that type of music.
If I close my eyes and listen to it - not in terms of the lyrics or story it's telling - but in terms of the emotion it invokes - I am transported back to high school - dancing the last song of the night at the school dance - with the prettiest girl in school (READ: whoever the fuck would dance with me) - and I am very content and happy (READ: Hammered and unable to stand).
I like it.
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If I close my eyes and listen to it - not in terms of the lyrics or story it's telling - but in terms of the emotion it invokes - I am transported back to high school - dancing the last song of the night at the school dance - with the prettiest girl in school (READ: whoever the fuck would dance with me) - and I am very content and happy (READ: Hammered and unable to stand).
I like it.
hahaha..awesome comment\!!
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
If I close my eyes and listen to it - not in terms of the lyrics or story it's telling - but in terms of the emotion it invokes - I am transported back to high school - dancing the last song of the night at the school dance - with the prettiest girl in school (READ: whoever the fuck would dance with me) - and I am very content and happy (READ: Hammered and unable to stand).
I like it.
hahaha..awesome comment\!!
Agree, had me laughing too. Were you hammered at the high school dance and unable to stand or is that just your happy spot now?
If I close my eyes and listen to it - not in terms of the lyrics or story it's telling - but in terms of the emotion it invokes - I am transported back to high school - dancing the last song of the night at the school dance - with the prettiest girl in school (READ: whoever the fuck would dance with me) - and I am very content and happy (READ: Hammered and unable to stand).
I like it.
hahaha..awesome comment\!!
Agree, had me laughing too. Were you hammered at the high school dance and unable to stand or is that just your happy spot now?
HA! Hammered and unable to stand THEN, while at high school dances, years and years ago. Not now! Now I am at work - can't be drunk (READ: so I am very high).
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Yeah I don't think I've instantly loved a PJ song like this since Given To Fly.
sinse Nothing as it Seems for me!!
It took me a long time before I loved Nothing As It Seems - I remember sulking because I was hoping for something upbeat and anthemic like Given To Fly!
It's growing on me, love Ed's voice in it, and it's getting regular radio play here in Philly.
Can't distinguish all the lyrics though, are they out there?
copy paste from the other thread
"
Hear the sirens…
Hear the sirens…
Hear the sirens… Hear the circus so profound
I hear the sirens… more and more in this here town
Let me catch my breath to breathe then reach across the bed
Just to know we’re safe, I am a grateful man
This light has been my light, and I can see you clear
I could take your hand, and feel your breath
For fear that someday we'll be over
I pull you close, so much to lose
Knowing that nothing lasts forever
I didn't care, before you were here
I danced in laughter with the ever after
But, all things change, let this remain
Hear the sirens… covering distance in the night
The sound, echoing closer, will they come for me next time
Every choice, mistake I made, is not my plan
To send you in the arms of another man
And if you choose to stay, I’ll wait, I’ll understand
It’s a fragile thing, this life we lead, if I think too much, I can get over-
Whelmed by the grace, by which we live our lives with death over our shoulders
Want you to know, that should I go, I always loved you, held you high above too
I studied your face, the fear goes away
It’s a fragile thing, this life we lead, if I think too much, I can get over-
Whelmed by the grace, by which we live our lives with death over our shoulders
Want you to know, that should I go, I always loved you, held you high above too
I studied your face, the fear goes away
The fear goes away
The fear goes away
The fear goes away
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
:think: :think: :think:
Now I am just feeling bi-polar about it. One minute I like it and the next minute I don't. :crazy: Well, I'll give it one thing for sure - it's having an impression on my brain.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
:think: :think: :think:
Now I am just feeling bi-polar about it. One minute I like it and the next minute I don't. :crazy: Well, I'll give it one thing for sure - it's having an impression on my brain.
all great things in life is like that...
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I was hoping yesterday was a bad dream and I really never heard this song. I wish this was April and this was the guys April fools joke. I'm sad...really sad...cause I've come to the realization that this song is SCARY bad. I force fed it to my ears, 25 or so times over the past 24hours trying to find a glimmer of hope but it just has gotten worse.
Sure PJ has had some sorta, tiny bit, wee tad bad, but never ever SCARY bad. (Ole)
So is this how it all ends? I'm gonna tear up, I'm really saddened. This song has me really concerned and scared!
On a lighter note....If they unfortunately do play this song live and you are on your way to do #1 during this song, you may suddenly find yourself needing to go #2 as well. However don't fret, this sucker is long enough to do both and re-fill a beer.
I pray to the PJ gods that I never get to see this live....please, please, please.
I will take Last Kiss twice in a row or Ole then Last Kiss then Ole again.
Oh dear dad
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
I was hoping yesterday was a bad dream and I really never heard this song. I wish this was April and this was the guys April fools joke. I'm sad...really sad...cause I've come to the realization that this song is SCARY bad. I force fed it to my ears, 25 or so times over the past 24hours trying to find a glimmer of hope but it just has gotten worse.
Sure PJ has had some sorta, tiny bit, wee tad bad, but never ever SCARY bad. (Ole)
So is this how it all ends? I'm gonna tear up, I'm really saddened. This song has me really concerned and scared!
On a lighter note....If they unfortunately do play this song live and you are on your way to do #1 during this song, you may suddenly find yourself needing to go #2 as well. However don't fret, this sucker is long enough to do both and re-fill a beer.
I pray to the PJ gods that I never get to see this live....please, please, please.
I will take Last Kiss twice in a row or Ole then Last Kiss then Ole again.
You are not the only person feeling like this.
I actually also had a daydream about it being and April Fool's joke in September, and I don't even hate it. It's just so weird. That's funny you thought that also.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
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This nails it for me. I hadn't quite put my finger on it, but this is it. There's too much piled on here- it tries to hard. Yes, the ones that don't try to be big, the ballads and love songs that sound like they come more naturally- those are the great ones.
Is this what it was like when No Code was released...
change is good!
Re:No Code. For the mainstream public, yeah sorta. There wasn't a widespread internet community of PJ fans like now, there wasn't really a widespread internet, period. And there also wasn't a big radio single; Who You Are came out prior to album, but it didn't really get played on the radio. So people had to check out the album (i.e. buy it or listen to a friend's copy) to get to the fact of it: Totally Different Pearl Jam. And when they did check it out, a gigantic portion of fans just walked away. (the shitty fans, and there were a lot of them). What was left built up what's here today, the best fan base for any band.
This album is nowhere near that drastic, imo.
And....I just can not get over Mike all wrapped up in guitars.
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I think its slowly filtering out those fans who don't like mainstream PJ songs. I personally think its exactly what the band needs to be doing with their music and can't wait for LB. I think its very U2ish, Coldplayish and I love that type of music.
If I close my eyes and listen to it - not in terms of the lyrics or story it's telling - but in terms of the emotion it invokes - I am transported back to high school - dancing the last song of the night at the school dance - with the prettiest girl in school (READ: whoever the fuck would dance with me) - and I am very content and happy (READ: Hammered and unable to stand).
I like it.
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Agree, had me laughing too. Were you hammered at the high school dance and unable to stand or is that just your happy spot now?
HA! Hammered and unable to stand THEN, while at high school dances, years and years ago. Not now! Now I am at work - can't be drunk (READ: so I am very high).
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It took me a long time before I loved Nothing As It Seems - I remember sulking because I was hoping for something upbeat and anthemic like Given To Fly!
Can't distinguish all the lyrics though, are they out there?
"
Hear the sirens…
Hear the sirens…
Hear the sirens… Hear the circus so profound
I hear the sirens… more and more in this here town
Let me catch my breath to breathe then reach across the bed
Just to know we’re safe, I am a grateful man
This light has been my light, and I can see you clear
I could take your hand, and feel your breath
For fear that someday we'll be over
I pull you close, so much to lose
Knowing that nothing lasts forever
I didn't care, before you were here
I danced in laughter with the ever after
But, all things change, let this remain
Hear the sirens… covering distance in the night
The sound, echoing closer, will they come for me next time
Every choice, mistake I made, is not my plan
To send you in the arms of another man
And if you choose to stay, I’ll wait, I’ll understand
It’s a fragile thing, this life we lead, if I think too much, I can get over-
Whelmed by the grace, by which we live our lives with death over our shoulders
Want you to know, that should I go, I always loved you, held you high above too
I studied your face, the fear goes away
It’s a fragile thing, this life we lead, if I think too much, I can get over-
Whelmed by the grace, by which we live our lives with death over our shoulders
Want you to know, that should I go, I always loved you, held you high above too
I studied your face, the fear goes away
The fear goes away
The fear goes away
The fear goes away
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Can you tell if there is a radio edit?
Now I am just feeling bi-polar about it. One minute I like it and the next minute I don't. :crazy: Well, I'll give it one thing for sure - it's having an impression on my brain.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Sure PJ has had some sorta, tiny bit, wee tad bad, but never ever SCARY bad. (Ole)
So is this how it all ends? I'm gonna tear up, I'm really saddened.
On a lighter note....If they unfortunately do play this song live and you are on your way to do #1 during this song, you may suddenly find yourself needing to go #2 as well. However don't fret, this sucker is long enough to do both and re-fill a beer.
I pray to the PJ gods that I never get to see this live....please, please, please.
I will take Last Kiss twice in a row or Ole then Last Kiss then Ole again.
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
I actually also had a daydream about it being and April Fool's joke in September, and I don't even hate it. It's just so weird.
Nah, Ole is only 2 and half mins the pain is over quicker
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Why do I feel like I just caught my girlfriend cheating on me?
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me