confederate flag: offensive or historical? (part II)

24567…13

Comments

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,676
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Drove by a house yesterday. Should have taken a picture. Confederate flag flying out front. The worst part was right next to that flag, literally RIGHT next to that flag was the start of a banner that proudly read

    "Congrats Nichelle 2013"

    Hmmm... a Lt. Uhura fan? :lol:

    http://www.startrek.com/database_articl ... lsnichelle
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Snakeduck
    Snakeduck Posts: 1,056
    Alright Brian, just what do you know about Ed Abbey? I was the original fan around here and will arm-wrestle you for that recognition...

    You read all of Doug Peacock's stuff too?
  • vant0037
    vant0037 Posts: 6,170
    http://vimeo.com/53745656

    Love Key & Peele.
    1998-06-30 Minneapolis
    2003-06-16 St. Paul
    2006-06-26 St. Paul
    2007-08-05 Chicago
    2009-08-23 Chicago
    2009-08-28 San Francisco
    2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
    2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
    2011-09-03 PJ20
    2011-09-04 PJ20
    2011-09-17 Winnipeg
    2012-06-26 Amsterdam
    2012-06-27 Amsterdam
    2013-07-19 Wrigley
    2013-11-21 San Diego
    2013-11-23 Los Angeles
    2013-11-24 Los Angeles
    2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
    2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
    2014-10-09 Lincoln
    2014-10-19 St. Paul
    2014-10-20 Milwaukee
    2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
    2016-08-22 Wrigley 2
    2018-06-18 London 1
    2018-08-18 Wrigley 1
    2018-08-20 Wrigley 2
    2022-09-16 Nashville
    2023-08-31 St. Paul
    2023-09-02 St. Paul
    2023-09-05 Chicago 1
    2024-08-31 Wrigley 2
    2024-09-15 Fenway 1
    2024-09-27 Ohana 1
    2024-09-29 Ohana 2
    2025-05-03 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,676
    Snakeduck wrote:
    Alright Brian, just what do you know about Ed Abbey? I was the original fan around here and will arm-wrestle you for that recognition...

    You read all of Doug Peacock's stuff too?

    Peacock? Absolutely! Loved Walking it Off.

    If I ever get around to buying a scanner I'll scan my letter from Mr. Abbey in which he tells me my father "must have been hallucinating".

    How about Ken Sanders? I get a good Abbey story or two out of him about twice a year.

    Arm-wrestle? How about a billboard contest instead? :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Snakeduck
    Snakeduck Posts: 1,056
    brianlux wrote:
    Snakeduck wrote:
    Alright Brian, just what do you know about Ed Abbey? I was the original fan around here and will arm-wrestle you for that recognition...

    You read all of Doug Peacock's stuff too?

    Peacock? Absolutely! Loved Walking it Off.

    If I ever get around to buying a scanner I'll scan my letter from Mr. Abbey in which he tells me my father "must have been hallucinating".

    How about Ken Sanders? I get a good Abbey story or two out of him about twice a year.

    Arm-wrestle? How about a billboard contest instead? :lol:

    Yeah, I'm familiar with Ken Sanders. You know the guy? That's very cool.

    Billboard contest would be fun for sure! Grizzly Years by Peacock is even beter than Walking It Off... maybe. They are both great.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,676
    Snakeduck wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Snakeduck wrote:
    Alright Brian, just what do you know about Ed Abbey? I was the original fan around here and will arm-wrestle you for that recognition...

    You read all of Doug Peacock's stuff too?

    Peacock? Absolutely! Loved Walking it Off.

    If I ever get around to buying a scanner I'll scan my letter from Mr. Abbey in which he tells me my father "must have been hallucinating".

    How about Ken Sanders? I get a good Abbey story or two out of him about twice a year.

    Arm-wrestle? How about a billboard contest instead? :lol:

    Yeah, I'm familiar with Ken Sanders. You know the guy? That's very cool.

    Billboard contest would be fun for sure! Grizzly Years by Peacock is even better than Walking It Off... maybe. They are both great.

    Yeah, we meet up at book fairs a couple of times a year. Ken's a great guy- always a pleasure to chat with.

    Being Peacock fan- and I'm really taking advantage here and getting off the thread topic (sorry everyone)- I highly recommend a book called One Square Inch of Silence by Gordon Hempton. The book is about Hempton's efforts to secure one place on the continental U.S. where nothing human-made (including airplanes) can be heard-- thus, "one square inch of silence". In the book, Hempton mentions Peacock several times and tells about meeting with him. For each copy of this book I sell, I send every penny above cost to Gordon's One Square Inch project (no kudos to me- this is totally selfish on my part. I'm very interested in Hempton's work):

    http://onesquareinch.org/
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    abelincolnsmilie.gif
    81 is now off the air

    Off_Air.jpg
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,676
    81 wrote:
    abelincolnsmilie.gif

    Mares eat ivy and does eat ivy and little lambs eat oats? :D
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    81 wrote:
    abelincolnsmilie.gif

    :nono:


    Now u have to drink!
  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    brianlux wrote:
    81 wrote:
    abelincolnsmilie.gif

    Mares eat ivy and does eat ivy and little lambs eat oats? :D

    and i eat little lambs. circle of life
    81 is now off the air

    Off_Air.jpg
  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    More people express outrage for the offensive nature of this flag than people who feel anything about this flag.

    If people would shut the fuck about this stupid issue it would cease to be an issue.

    What a waste of thinking.

    Political correct action only keeps these stupid discussions going. Ideally this shit would fade away and everybody would feel like an individual and part of a society but idiot liberals always revive these decisive things.
    I found my place......and it's alright
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I think it would be more appropriate to talk about this racist flag here.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    otter said:

    More people express outrage for the offensive nature of this flag than people who feel anything about this flag.



    If people would shut the fuck about this stupid issue it would cease to be an issue.



    What a waste of thinking.



    Political correct action only keeps these stupid discussions going. Ideally this shit would fade away and everybody would feel like an individual and part of a society but idiot liberals always revive these decisive things.

    We should stop talking about racism too, I'm sure it would just go away if we do.

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    otter said:

    More people express outrage for the offensive nature of this flag than people who feel anything about this flag.



    If people would shut the fuck about this stupid issue it would cease to be an issue.



    What a waste of thinking.



    Political correct action only keeps these stupid discussions going. Ideally this shit would fade away and everybody would feel like an individual and part of a society but idiot liberals always revive these decisive things.

    So how long will this natural fading away take? Guess it takes more than 150 years or so, since the pro-flag people keep dredging it up, but just asking.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I am sickened by the pro flag people finding any picture they can of a black person holding the confederate flag. I think there's a total of 4 on the internet and they use the same 4 when ever the debate comes up.

    I know smart people that sound so stupid when they are trying to have this arguement. I have found that there are 3 main points they try and make. 1) it's a battle flag, not a slave flag. 2) it's heritage, not hate. 3) you wouldn't understand if your not from the south.

    None of these three arguments hold any water. Almost 100% of the arguments end with "you just don't understand because you're from the north." Is that really what you want to base your argument on?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    It is a perfect artifact for a museum.

    If people want to fly it/wear it in their private lives...well...I guess that is freedom. They have the right to do that and I have the right to look down on them for doing so.

    It has no business being displayed at or above a government building.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Short of Daisy duke leaning over with those shorts on the hood of the General Lee,I think it's Racist.
    Im a Southerner,I see dip shit bubbas everyday driving around with those flags on license plates and stickers.I feel if it is offensive,why hurt one segment of our population.Thats heartless.

    Put it in Confederate Cemetaries,Museums,Learning centers and memorials.I get it no need to run from the past but It should not be flying at the Capitol.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Have a few confederate soldiers buried at end of my road and they get the confederate flag treatment during veterans days. Some flags added to entry of cemetery as well. Interesting.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    How to recognize a prominent Republican who is no longer running for President:

    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,963
    Last-12-Exit said:

    I am sickened by the pro flag people finding any picture they can of a black person holding the confederate flag. I think there's a total of 4 on the internet and they use the same 4 when ever the debate comes up.

    I know smart people that sound so stupid when they are trying to have this arguement. I have found that there are 3 main points they try and make. 1) it's a battle flag, not a slave flag. 2) it's heritage, not hate. 3) you wouldn't understand if your not from the south.

    None of these three arguments hold any water. Almost 100% of the arguments end with "you just don't understand because you're from the north." Is that really what you want to base your argument on?

    i think most reasonably intelligent northerners fully understand what is about. it's about racism and an ideal that some are trying to hold onto. as for it being a battle flag...they lost. why are they celebrating losing?

Categories