Boston Marathon - explosion

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    dignin wrote:

    Oh, I was wondering since the video was uploaded on Sunday. Thought it would be a little strange if they were still hanging around.
    that would be complitely wrong..!!they finish the job,need to go back..no reason to be in the city anymore..
    they said the suspect arressed,so,no reason to be in the streets

    Yup
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    BinFrog wrote:
    is like someone today with photos from internet and puting red circles will prove us that 9/11 was a set up scene and all was playing a role inside the airplanes..

    Wait, I thought the red circles were PROOF? :lol:


    Only while listening to Yield.
    Wait - wasn't it Red Dot? Or am I venturing into semantics territory?

    (or did I totally miss the reference :P )
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    yo, Mom and Dad....shut the fuck up....you sound like idiots.
    81 is now off the air

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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    if you get bored....

    https://twitter.com/xXjungaXx
    81 is now off the air

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  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    hedonist wrote:
    Wait - wasn't it Red Dot? Or am I venturing into semantics territory?

    (or did I totally miss the reference :P )


    Yes, I took a little leap. And yes, you are in semantics territory.
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  • YLed2YLed2 Posts: 5,534
    Sure as shit, the media is already forming a general feeling of sympathy and a defense for this punk. Unreal.

    And some of the remarks from the mom and pops......wow.
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    81 wrote:
    if you get bored....

    https://twitter.com/xXjungaXx

    Is that the white hat's friend?
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I say we hand over the kid to the Soviets and let them give due process via their most effective methods.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,123
    Starting to reopen today.

    http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04 ... story.html

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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,548
    Jason P wrote:
    I say we hand over the kid to the Soviets and let them give due process via their most effective methods.
    even the president there can go on public and say"we dont give about his rights,we will take the info we want,have a good night.."

    and the reporters,will be 500 miles from the crime scene..
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  • vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,108

    Van...

    Work has gotten in the way of my MT time. I have been waiting to respond to this post. Firstly, this is a well-articulated postion. I understand exactly what you are saying and there is much wisdom in what you have offered. I do wish to speak to two points you made where I tend to think differently. Remember I am Canadian and there are legal differences between the US and Canada.

    It's been suggested that vengeance is the justice that people are seeking in this case. I think there's an enormous body of legal theory, philosophy and psychology supporting the idea that vengeance is smallest and perhaps least important part of "justice."

    Least significant part of justice for whom? I am of the opinion that justice should serve those who have been traumatized more than it should meet the needs of legal pundits. In most cases... this means the survivors and the victims. I can guarantee you that those with dead children and those maimed and mutilated in Boston are not thinking along the same philosophical lines as you. Given what I have stated here... these people, myself and others would argue that vengeance is not quite as trivial as you make it out to be.

    Our justice system, as in many civil societies, is theoretically and largely based on restoration of order, not retribution.

    Again... restoration of order for whom? While everyone not directly affected by the recurring tragedies we are inundated with tend to move on a little quicker towards order... the survivors live the rest of their lives looking at pictures of their deceased. Worse yet... they are often reminded of the crimes that altered their existence by allowing the legal process to play out. Using an example I refer to often, 'normalcy' is not the case for the survivors of David Shearing's heinous act. David murdered a family of six in a neighbouring rural community (kidnapping the two young daughters and raping them repeatedly before finishing them off). He is now eligible for parole every two years, forcing the survivors to show up at parole hearings with the petitions they have organized to keep the monster from gaining re-entry to society. Parole is legitimately feared a reality for this man because the legal system provides for the opportunity. Further... DB is married since he was imprisoned and his wife and other bleeding hearts insist he is a changed man.

    So, in summary, I would like to suggest that the processes you speak of are fine in theory... but impractical at times and in my opinion fall short at times of serving justice in the manner that some seek and deserve. While we can feel good about the legal mechanisms we have in place to ensure fairness to those accused and convicted... we must admit that these same systems fail at times leaving much to be desired.

    It's a scary proposition to argue that justice should be based largely on what the victim desires to see happen. Yes, it's an important part of the equation (in Minnesota, victim's are entitled to input, but prosecutors are not obligated to follow their wishes). But it's not and can't be the biggest part of our decision-making. Trust me: I see husband-wife domestic assaults on a day-to-day basis where the husband thinks he should've hit her harder and the wife wants to cut his balls off. :lol: How could impartial and uniform justice ever been dispensed if the sentencing was victim-driven?

    To clarify, I wasn't making a prescriptive claim about the U.S.'s criminal justice system (i.e. not arguing how it should be), but rather arguing how I see it actually operating. Criminal justice is, and should be, less about vengeance and more about punishment and deterrence. I'm not going to rehash why I believe that to be the case (and the correct one, at that).
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    81 wrote:
    if you get bored....

    https://twitter.com/xXjungaXx

    Is that the white hat's friend?

    correct

    white hat's twitter

    https://twitter.com/J_tsar


    i've checked out a few of the people he was following....this guy was the first i saw that was interesting....but others have tweeted about getting hate tweets

    crazy how the internet works.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,745
    Jason P wrote:
    I say we hand over the kid to the Soviets and let them give due process via their most effective methods.
    even the president there can go on public and say"we dont give about his rights,we will take the info we want,have a good night.."

    and the reporters,will be 500 miles from the crime scene..
    fucking shame then that this kid is a naturalized AMERICAN citizen.

    Heres the thing. they are treating/charging him as a criminal , nothing more. This way the religous reasoning behind it isnt the reason for prosecution. Doesnt matter anyway, people believe what they want.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,548
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I say we hand over the kid to the Soviets and let them give due process via their most effective methods.
    even the president there can go on public and say"we dont give about his rights,we will take the info we want,have a good night.."

    and the reporters,will be 500 miles from the crime scene..
    fucking shame then that this kid is a naturalized AMERICAN citizen.

    Heres the thing. they are treating/charging him as a criminal , nothing more. This way the religous reasoning behind it isnt the reason for prosecution. Doesnt matter anyway, people believe what they want.
    yep..people believe ands say whatever they want..
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    JimmyV wrote:
    Since these guys were vilified yesterday, here is the National Guard at work in Watertown:

    http://youtu.be/utqzThm0WSY
    rock on!
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    Jason P wrote:
    I say we hand over the kid to the Soviets and let them give due process via their most effective methods.
    even the president there can go on public and say"we dont give about his rights,we will take the info we want,have a good night.."

    and the reporters,will be 500 miles from the crime scene..
    fact
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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    no more forever."

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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    chadwick wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I say we hand over the kid to the Soviets and let them give due process via their most effective methods.
    even the president there can go on public and say"we dont give about his rights,we will take the info we want,have a good night.."

    and the reporters,will be 500 miles from the crime scene..
    fact

    How is that a good thing? You think we want to be like Russia?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    How is that a good thing? You think we want to be like Russia?
    I'm not saying we should be throwing reporters out of windows ... well at least not past the third story ... fourth if you work for TMZ, but maybe a little shake up would do some good.

    ;)
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Jason P wrote:
    How is that a good thing? You think we want to be like Russia?
    I'm not saying we should be throwing reporters out of windows ... well at least not past the third story ... fourth if you work for TMZ, but maybe a little shake up would do some good.

    ;)

    is this russia? this isn't russia
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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    norm wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    How is that a good thing? You think we want to be like Russia?
    I'm not saying we should be throwing reporters out of windows ... well at least not past the third story ... fourth if you work for TMZ, but maybe a little shake up would do some good.

    ;)

    is this russia? this isn't russia
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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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    Good. So, whats the problem?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Hmmm ... I just got a little bit more serious about letting the Russians go to work on white hat guy. With a blow torch.

    :(
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,888
    Guy interviewed about bombing forgot to hide something. :lol:

    dildo_BBC.jpg
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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Guy interviewed about bombing forgot to hide something. :lol:

    dildo_BBC.jpg


    :lol::lol::lol::lol: Good luck explaining that to Mom and Dad.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,548
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Guy interviewed about bombing forgot to hide something. :lol:

    dildo_BBC.jpg
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,888
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Guy interviewed about bombing forgot to hide something. :lol:

    dildo_BBC.jpg
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Hey, when you guys quote the image, the dildo disappears. This guy would love the 10C forum. :lol:
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,548
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Guy interviewed about bombing forgot to hide something. :lol:

    dildo_BBC.jpg
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Hey, when you guys quote the image, the dildo disappears. This guy would love the 10C forum. :lol:
    where i post it 3 min ago.....well,cant be dissapeared... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Where'd it Go? :crazy: :lol:
  • PillowPantsPillowPants Posts: 4,874


    only problem is a jammer knows this guy - and he had legs before the marathon
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    edited April 2013
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Guy interviewed about bombing forgot to hide something. :lol:

    dildo_BBC.jpg
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Hey, when you guys quote the image, the dildo disappears. This guy would love the 10C forum. :lol:


    Must be a false flag situation! :lol::lol:
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