Airline "Fat Tax"...thoughts?

Jason P

81 wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-airlines-says-paybyweight-plan-is-fairest-way-to-fly-20130403,0,6898697.story

Well, it is a Samoan airline. Based on what i know of Samoans (via the gift of football) ... well, let's just say they aint playing the wideout position.

madtowndave

I personally don't like this idea.

cubBEE_girl

RKCNDY wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

RKCNDY wrote:

maybe I should have not told you, and left it as a surprise...kinda like the toy at the bottom of the cereal box.

Rude

a surprise is rude? :roll:

CUBBEE! add to the list! "grasshopper does not like surprises"

I missed this. Will add it to the list!

mca47

Dude that looked exactly like Milton sat in the middle seat next to me this morning. Think Milton but 70 lbs fatter.

Guy sits down and his fat ass squeezed in between the armrests. I sit down, disgusted by what I have to sit next to. Guy asks "Hey, you mind if I put the armrest up?" "I sure do, armrest stays down". Fat man gives me a glare. So not only are his fat thighs invading the space of the people next to him, but his arms were so fat that they couldn't be contained within the confines of his seat. I'm leaning into the aisle the entire flight.
Best part...
Guy orders a coffee. Guy gets his coffee, puts the tray table down but it couldn't go down all the way. Not that it didn't work, his giant stomach wouldn't allow it go down. So he just rests it on his stomach. Guy puts like 5 creams in his coffee, goes to put in another and he drops it. It hits the slanted tray table supported by his stomach and spills down his fat thighs. Didn't faze him. Just kept on reading his paper with cream all down his pants. :fp:
Oh, and he was also a mouth breather who chomped on gum the whole flight.

Good times!
I wanted to stand up and say "I've had it with these motherfuckin' fatties on this motherfuckin' plane!"

RKCNDY

mca47 wrote:

Just kept on reading his paper with cream all down his pants. :fp:

this part made me the hardest...where's rick?

Jason P

Riiiighhht ...

Soooooo .....

pandora

Have we noticed that thin people are more inclined to pass from cancer
and fatties from heart failure? And people who fly excessively are at a
much higher risk of blood clots.
I guess something's gonna get'cha. Maybe even karma.

I have also heard negativity effects one's health detrimentally and a positive attitude
towards life and others can bring a long life. Makes pounds of sense

mca47

pandora wrote:

Have we noticed that thin people are more inclined to pass from cancer
and fatties from heart failure? And people who fly excessively are at a
much higher risk of blood clots.
I guess something's gonna get'cha. Maybe even karma.

I have also heard negativity effects one's health detrimentally and a positive attitude
towards life and others can bring a long life. Makes pounds of sense

Why do you believe a thin person is more likely to die from cancer? I work in cancer research, and would like to hear this one! :?

Oh, and the next time I'm wedged between two 300 lb dudes on a plane, I'll think "stay positive"!

peacefrompaul

RKCNDY wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

RKCNDY wrote:

maybe I should have not told you, and left it as a surprise...kinda like the toy at the bottom of the cereal box.

Rude

a surprise is rude? :roll:

CUBBEE! add to the list! "grasshopper does not like surprises"

That's simply not true

pandora

mca47 wrote:

pandora wrote:

Have we noticed that thin people are more inclined to pass from cancer
and fatties from heart failure? And people who fly excessively are at a
much higher risk of blood clots.
I guess something's gonna get'cha. Maybe even karma.

I have also heard negativity effects one's health detrimentally and a positive attitude
towards life and others can bring a long life. Makes pounds of sense

Why do you believe a thin person is more likely to die from cancer? I work in cancer research, and would like to hear this one! :?

Oh, and the next time I'm wedged between two 300 lb dudes on a plane, I'll think "stay positive"!

Yes stay positive ... good idea!
that would do you a world of good cause you certainly can't do a damn thing
about it but bitch
and yes laughing is very good for our souls but not so much at the expense of others ...
actually I believe that is a character flaw or is it immaturity or maybe both.

Maybe I can find some data to support my theory about the passing of body types
and personalities. That would be based on family histories, people I have known etc.

Watch out for those blood clots though a real threat any size ... I think aspirin is good for that.
You do know the best way to avoid bad karma though right? Most people do,
at least those who believe. I do I also practice witchcraft though

81

doesn't cancer typically cause weight loss....thus resulting in most cancer victims being thin.....

just a theory.

mca47

81 wrote:

doesn't cancer typically cause weight loss....thus resulting in most cancer victims being thin.....

just a theory.

Correct, depending on the cancer and the tx.

That said, being thin doesn't make you more prone to developing cancer nor does being thin make you more likely to die from it. Malnutrition as a result of nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea (side effects of many chemotherapy agents and radiation) is what makes so many cancer patients thin.
Malnutrition at a time where your body needs energy and a healthy immune system certainly increases the complexity of the treatment regimen and the ability to stay on treatment.

RKCNDY

mca47 wrote:

81 wrote:

doesn't cancer typically cause weight loss....thus resulting in most cancer victims being thin.....

just a theory.

Correct, depending on the cancer and the tx.

That said, being thin doesn't make you more prone to developing cancer nor does being thin make you more likely to die from it. Malnutrition as a result of nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea (side effects of many chemotherapy agents and radiation) is what makes so many cancer patients thin.
Malnutrition at a time where your body needs energy and a healthy immune system certainly increases the complexity of the treatment regimen and the ability to stay on treatment.

So, have cancer patients smoke some pot, they get the munchies, they eat, they gain weight...win!

81

RKCNDY wrote:

So, have cancer patients smoke some pot, they get the munchies, they eat, they gain weight...win!

i think that's a myth.

mca47

RKCNDY wrote:

mca47 wrote:

81 wrote:

doesn't cancer typically cause weight loss....thus resulting in most cancer victims being thin.....

just a theory.

Correct, depending on the cancer and the tx.

That said, being thin doesn't make you more prone to developing cancer nor does being thin make you more likely to die from it. Malnutrition as a result of nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea (side effects of many chemotherapy agents and radiation) is what makes so many cancer patients thin.
Malnutrition at a time where your body needs energy and a healthy immune system certainly increases the complexity of the treatment regimen and the ability to stay on treatment.

So, have cancer patients smoke some pot, they get the munchies, they eat, they gain weight...win!

Yup. It's a very effective therapy for ca patients.
From my experience, the majority of late stage ca patients who have treated their symptoms with pot actually lived happier, healthier, and sometimes longer.
Bizarre that such an effective therapy is illegal.
Bizarre that the pharmaceutical "synthetic" prescription version (Marinol) of pot is ok to prescribe but it doesn't work as well as the real thing. :fp:

PJ_Soul

81 wrote:

RKCNDY wrote:

So, have cancer patients smoke some pot, they get the munchies, they eat, they gain weight...win!

i think that's a myth.

No, it's true!

RKCNDY

mca47 wrote:

Yup. It's a very effective therapy for ca patients.
From my experience, the majority of late stage ca patients who have treated their symptoms with pot actually lived happier, healthier, and sometimes longer.
Bizarre that such an effective therapy is illegal.
Bizarre that the pharmaceutical "synthetic" prescription version (Marinol) of pot is ok to prescribe but it doesn't work as well as the real thing. :fp:

Big Pharma only cares about creating customers and making money, they don't care about 'curing' diseases. <----I can say that because I used to work in pharmaceuticals.

I've seen more amazing things happen from homeopathy than I did with pharmaceuticals.

mca47

RKCNDY wrote:

mca47 wrote:

Yup. It's a very effective therapy for ca patients.
From my experience, the majority of late stage ca patients who have treated their symptoms with pot actually lived happier, healthier, and sometimes longer.
Bizarre that such an effective therapy is illegal.
Bizarre that the pharmaceutical "synthetic" prescription version (Marinol) of pot is ok to prescribe but it doesn't work as well as the real thing. :fp:

Big Pharma only cares about creating customers and making money, they don't care about 'curing' diseases. <----I can say that because I used to work in pharmaceuticals.

I've seen more amazing things happen from homeopathy than I did with pharmaceuticals.

I actually disagree with that completely.
I work for a pharmaceutical company (privately owned) in oncology research. The notion we're dragging out heals to find a cure as a means to make more money.... :fp: :fp: :fp:
I'm working on a non-small cell lung cancer study/drug for the last 5 years. We've spent hundreds of millions of dollars getting it to the point where we are submitting it to the FDA for that indication. The science is there, it's an effective drug. Don't you think if my company or another had the cure for say...breast cancer, they would hold it back? Any company that has a "cure" instantly becomes the richest company in the world. The disease is complex beyond anyone's wildest thoughts. We're making progress, but it takes a lot of time, a lot of money and alot of shit to deal with.
Science is a beautiful thing and once you really dive head first into this research, you respect it on an entirely different level.

While I'm not a big homeopathic kinda guy, I do believe that pharmaceutical options should be a last resort. Live a healthy life, eat right, exercise and hopefully you won't HAVE to take a prescription for something down the line.

PJ_Soul

mca47 wrote:

RKCNDY wrote:

mca47 wrote:

Yup. It's a very effective therapy for ca patients.
From my experience, the majority of late stage ca patients who have treated their symptoms with pot actually lived happier, healthier, and sometimes longer.
Bizarre that such an effective therapy is illegal.
Bizarre that the pharmaceutical "synthetic" prescription version (Marinol) of pot is ok to prescribe but it doesn't work as well as the real thing. :fp:

Big Pharma only cares about creating customers and making money, they don't care about 'curing' diseases. <----I can say that because I used to work in pharmaceuticals.

I've seen more amazing things happen from homeopathy than I did with pharmaceuticals.

I actually disagree with that completely.
I work for a pharmaceutical company (privately owned) in oncology research. The notion we're dragging out heals to find a cure as a means to make more money.... :fp: :fp: :fp:
I'm working on a non-small cell lung cancer study/drug for the last 5 years. We've spent hundreds of millions of dollars getting it to the point where we are submitting it to the FDA for that indication. The science is there, it's an effective drug. Don't you think if my company or another had the cure for say...breast cancer, they would hold it back? Any company that has a "cure" instantly becomes the richest company in the world. The disease is complex beyond anyone's wildest thoughts. We're making progress, but it takes a lot of time, a lot of money and alot of shit to deal with.
Science is a beautiful thing and once you really dive head first into this research, you respect it on an entirely different level.

While I'm not a big homeopathic kinda guy, I do believe that pharmaceutical options should be a last resort. Live a healthy life, eat right, exercise and hopefully you won't HAVE to take a prescription for something down the line.

I do think what RKCNDY says is totally true when it comes to things like herpes and other generally non-deadly diseases that keep people coming back for more medicine (and that is reprehensible). But yes, from what I know from those who work closely with the industry (i.e. doctors and other medical researchers), they are not trying to prevent a cure for cancer, or AIDS, or any other terrible deadly diseases and conditions (they can't wait to make the cures incredibly expensive when they come along if at all possible, of course). Pharmaceutical companies are evil... but not quite that evil.

RKCNDY

mca47 wrote:

I actually disagree with that completely.
I work for a pharmaceutical company (privately owned) in oncology research. The notion we're dragging out heals to find a cure as a means to make more money.... :fp: :fp: :fp:
I'm working on a non-small cell lung cancer study/drug for the last 5 years. We've spent hundreds of millions of dollars getting it to the point where we are submitting it to the FDA for that indication. The science is there, it's an effective drug. Don't you think if my company or another had the cure for say...breast cancer, they would hold it back? Any company that has a "cure" instantly becomes the richest company in the world. The disease is complex beyond anyone's wildest thoughts. We're making progress, but it takes a lot of time, a lot of money and alot of shit to deal with.
Science is a beautiful thing and once you really dive head first into this research, you respect it on an entirely different level.

While I'm not a big homeopathic kinda guy, I do believe that pharmaceutical options should be a last resort. Live a healthy life, eat right, exercise and hopefully you won't HAVE to take a prescription for something down the line.

Homeopathy is also science, I'm a big science fan. Not saying that companies are 'holding back' just that, I don't have much faith on the trials/testing. Why does it take so long for them to re-call things? Vioxx anybody?

I don't want to take away from your threads intent, from my experience working with some of the big name comapnies... :thumbdown: