Media lies by omission, Someone with a GUN Stopped this!

DS1119

fife wrote:

can you have your gun locked up and still use for safety in case you need it?

Absolutley.

fife

DS1119 wrote:

fife wrote:

can you have your gun locked up and still use for safety in case you need it?

Absolutley.

I don't know that much about guns or gun storage but how hard is it to get a gun out of a safe box?

also can you respond to the 2nd part of my post?

dimitrispearljam

fife wrote:

can you have your gun locked up and still use for safety in case you need it?

I don't know that answer to that question. I hear people saying that being a responsible gun owner means locking up your guns but would you not need them to readily available in case you need them?

im sure jack norris can do it

DS1119

fife wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

fife wrote:

can you have your gun locked up and still use for safety in case you need it?

Absolutley.

I don't know that much about guns or gun storage but how hard is it to get a gun out of a safe box?

Well my buddy keeps his AR15 and AK47 in a fire proof locker in his master bedroom closet that needs a key and a 5 number code to unlock it. It's also secured to the floor like a safe would be. I've never taken the gun out but I've watched him od it. Take probably 30 seconds or so I guess.

fife

DS1119 wrote:

fife wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Absolutley.

I don't know that much about guns or gun storage but how hard is it to get a gun out of a safe box?

Well my buddy keeps his AR15 and AK47 in a fire proof locker in his master bedroom closet that needs a key and a 5 number code to unlock it. It's also secured to the floor like a safe would be. I've never taken the gun out but I've watched him od it. Take probably 30 seconds or so I guess.

thanks I am just trying to learn here. i have read here and other places that some people keep their gun in their nightstand when they are sleeping and then put it in a safe afterward and I always thought how safe is it to have a gun in your night stand?

Can I ask you a question, would you be willing to have people who didn't store their guns properly be charged witha crime if anything happen with someone using that gun?

fife

Just another question.

again sorry if these are stupid questions.

Why would does the USA have laws that say that it is Ok to have your gun concealed?

it just seems to me that a person who has a gun concealed has a greater chance of being the shooter and not the defender?

catefrances

unsung wrote:

Smellyman wrote:

what would be safer...a mall with half the people carrying guns or people without guns?

Does your hypothetic situation stop people from illegally entering the premises with a gun intent on doing harm? Because a gun free zone is nothing more than a criminal safe zone.

this is not true. not all criminals carry guns.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

Well my buddy keeps his AR15 and AK47 in a fire proof locker in his master bedroom closet that needs a key and a 5 number code to unlock it. It's also secured to the floor like a safe would be. I've never taken the gun out but I've watched him od it. Take probably 30 seconds or so I guess.

that's about 15 seconds after he's dead. which is why most people who claim protection keep them under their pillow, in arm's reach of their kid.

DS1119

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Well my buddy keeps his AR15 and AK47 in a fire proof locker in his master bedroom closet that needs a key and a 5 number code to unlock it. It's also secured to the floor like a safe would be. I've never taken the gun out but I've watched him od it. Take probably 30 seconds or so I guess.

that's about 15 seconds after he's dead. which is why most people who claim protection keep them under their pillow, in arm's reach of their kid.

100 not true. But continue with the assumptions. It makes for interesting reading.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Well my buddy keeps his AR15 and AK47 in a fire proof locker in his master bedroom closet that needs a key and a 5 number code to unlock it. It's also secured to the floor like a safe would be. I've never taken the gun out but I've watched him od it. Take probably 30 seconds or so I guess.

that's about 15 seconds after he's dead. which is why most people who claim protection keep them under their pillow, in arm's reach of their kid.

100 not true. But continue with the assumptions. It makes for interesting reading.

nearly every single response you have is "100% not true/bullshit", which makes for very uninteresting readin. either you are 100% protected or you are 100% responsible. you can't have both.

DS1119

fife wrote:

Just another question.

again sorry if these are stupid questions.

Why would does the USA have laws that say that it is Ok to have your gun concealed?

it just seems to me that a person who has a gun concealed has a greater chance of being the shooter and not the defender?

Stricter background checks for carrying a concealed weapon. What kind of gets lost in all of this however is people who carry illegal weapons aren't concerned about getting a permit and will carry the weapon illegally.

DS1119

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

nearly every single response you have is "100% not true/bullshit", which makes for very uninteresting readin. either you are 100% protected or you are 100% responsible. you can't have both.

You commented that most people who own guns legally keep thme under their pillows which is 100% not true. And yes you can be fully protected and fully responsible at the same time.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

nearly every single response you have is "100% not true/bullshit", which makes for very uninteresting readin. either you are 100% protected or you are 100% responsible. you can't have both.

You commented that most people who own guns legally keep thme under their pillows which is 100% not true. And yes you can be fully protected and fully responsible at the same time.

yes, and I meant "under their pillow" completely literally. Jesus. Obviously I meant close at hand.

DS1119

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

nearly every single response you have is "100% not true/bullshit", which makes for very uninteresting readin. either you are 100% protected or you are 100% responsible. you can't have both.

You commented that most people who own guns legally keep thme under their pillows which is 100% not true. And yes you can be fully protected and fully responsible at the same time.

yes, and I meant "under their pillow" completely literally. Jesus. Obviously I meant close at hand.

And someone can keep a gun close at hand and safe. The numbers don't lie. Just do a quick search.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

If the numbers don't lie... then you'd be turning in your weapons and demanding others do the same.

DS1119

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

If the numbers don't lie... then you'd be turning in your weapons and demanding others do the same.

I don't own any weapons...I mean in the sense you are referring to...I do own knives, poisons. matches, gas, etc. which I guess could all be weapons but statistically I have a higher chance of drowning in my neighbors pool than even being injured by a gun in the US.

JimmyV

DS1119 wrote:

And someone can keep a gun close at hand and safe. The numbers don't lie. Just do a quick search.

The numbers that say every locked up gun is a safe gun...until it isn't.

fife

DS1119 wrote:

fife wrote:

Just another question.

again sorry if these are stupid questions.

Why would does the USA have laws that say that it is Ok to have your gun concealed?

it just seems to me that a person who has a gun concealed has a greater chance of being the shooter and not the defender?

Stricter background checks for carrying a concealed weapon. What kind of gets lost in all of this however is people who carry illegal weapons aren't concerned about getting a permit and will carry the weapon illegally.

again, not every gun used to kill someone was bought illegally. yes we have to get illegal weapons off the street and I think there are some laws that can pass to get that done. for example, I think there should be a fine and maybe imprisonment for people who don't store their guns safely as many of those guns that people have illegally have been stolen.. I also think selling guns should be restricted to certain area and not private dealers.

Again, nothing is going to make sure that these situations don't occur again but I do think we should try to at least try to prevent any.

Horos

DS1119 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

If the numbers don't lie... then you'd be turning in your weapons and demanding others do the same.

I don't own any weapons...I mean in the sense you are referring to...I do own knives, poisons. matches, gas, etc. which I guess could all be weapons but statistically I have a higher chance of drowning in my neighbors pool than even being injured by a gun in the US.

Those swimming pool stats you keep throwing in are mostly children or young men under 24. You really want to make it a red/blue issue and I don't know the stats on that but I do know plenty of liberals that are gun owners as well.

dimitrispearljam

JimmyV wrote:

The numbers that say every locked up gun is a safe gun...until it isn't.

all gun are safe till you listen the bang...if you are lucky and live to listen it..