Media lies by omission, Someone with a GUN Stopped this!

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER.

This statement is 100% bullshit and 100% not correct.

as you always say, I have my opinion, you have yours. no one can control their guns 100% of the time. to claim otherwise is complete bullshit.

DS1119

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER.

This statement is 100% bullshit and 100% not correct.

as you always say, I have my opinion, you have yours. no one can control their guns 100% of the time. to claim otherwise is complete bullshit.

But you said there is no such thing as a responsible gun owner. That's what I commented on.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

But you said there is no such thing as a responsible gun owner. That's what I commented on.

and that's part of it, is it not?

DS1119

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

But you said there is no such thing as a responsible gun owner. That's what I commented on.

and that's part of it, is it not?

Part of what? You do realize that almost half of US households legally own a gun correct? People focus on these isolated instances and yes they are tragic, but they are isolated. What if someone stole your car right now and drove down a sidewalk killing 30 people. Does this make you an irresponsible car owner? :?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

pandora wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER.

This statement is 100% bullshit and 100% not correct.

This the kind of judgement and prejudice that sneaks out.
Some people won't admit they want
all guns banned because that is uncompromising.
But with these feelings gushing out of people we know the motive
for gun control. They want them gone, all gone. They want the right
taken away to protect oneself, their families and their property.
Because they don't want the right they think they can strip everyone of it.
Why the NRA has the following it does.
People want this right and they will fight to keep it.

I haven't seen one post that has suggested all guns banned. I've seen several posts suggesting types of guns banned and types of owners banned. This comment, you have uttered, is rather dramatic. Come on... get serious. People are asking for moderation and it's more than reasonable.

If you did as much listening as you do talking you would know that most have acknowledged the problem your country faces is a multi-headed problem. One of the issues is the fact that there is an over abundance of easily accessible weaponry. It needs to be addressed. Period.

Can you not protect your family with a shotgun? Can I assume you have drawn the line on owning rocket launchers and hand grenades? Do you think that line might extend a bit to include assault rifles and easily-concealed handguns?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

But you said there is no such thing as a responsible gun owner. That's what I commented on.

and that's part of it, is it not?

Part of what? You do realize that almost half of US households legally own a gun correct? People focus on these isolated instances and yes they are tragic, but they are isolated. What if someone stole your car right now and drove down a sidewalk killing 30 people. Does this make you an irresponsible car owner? :?

last time I checked, I don't need a gun to get to work. your car/gun analogy is weak at best. stop using it. it doesn't make any sense. you are comparing things used in life that have USES other than killing.

unless you are like Homer Simpson and use it to open a can of Spaghetti-O's.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

But you said there is no such thing as a responsible gun owner. That's what I commented on.

and that's part of it, is it not?

Part of what? You do realize that almost half of US households legally own a gun correct? People focus on these isolated instances and yes they are tragic, but they are isolated. What if someone stole your car right now and drove down a sidewalk killing 30 people. Does this make you an irresponsible car owner? :?

isolated? really? have you seen the news lately? I don't give a shit if it's legal now or not. I think owning a gun is stupid. Case closed.

DS1119

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Part of what? You do realize that almost half of US households legally own a gun correct? People focus on these isolated instances and yes they are tragic, but they are isolated. What if someone stole your car right now and drove down a sidewalk killing 30 people. Does this make you an irresponsible car owner? :?

last time I checked, I don't need a gun to get to work. your car/gun analogy is weak at best. stop using it. it doesn't make any sense. you are comparing things used in life that have USES other than killing.

unless you are like Homer Simpson and use it to open a can of Spaghetti-O's.

And you TELLING people what they need or don't need is not the way this country was built. Especially law abiding US citizens just excercising their rights. And no any analogy made to guns including cars is not weak. This is a question of rights and what people feel OTHERS should do because of their own feelings and bias. And no you DONT need a car. You can walk...take a bike.

Did you know more kids are killed in backyard pools every year, overwhelmingly actually, than by legally owned weapons?

DS1119

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

isolated? really? have you seen the news lately? I don't give a shit if it's legal now or not. I think owning a gun is stupid. Case closed.

Yeah, when you consider the number of legally owned guns in the US that cause zero harm vs what has happened....yes it's very isolated actually. And considering that the couple past of these asshole incidents were caused by illegally obtained weapons the point is even more mute.

comebackgirl

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

But you said there is no such thing as a responsible gun owner. That's what I commented on.

and that's part of it, is it not?

Part of what? You do realize that almost half of US households legally own a gun correct? People focus on these isolated instances and yes they are tragic, but they are isolated. What if someone stole your car right now and drove down a sidewalk killing 30 people. Does this make you an irresponsible car owner? :?

What if? What if? What if? Well he didn't use a car. He didn't use a pillow or a knife or a spork or a fucking cocktail umbrella. He used a fucking gun. Some of those babies had up to ELEVEN bullets in their little bodies. The medical examiner showed the parents pictures instead of the actual bodies because they were TORN APART. I wished he had just crashed his fucking car into the building instead. Some of those kids might have actually survived. Fucking semi-automatic assault rifles had no fucking place in his home. Banning guns will not stop violence. i know this. But way to many unstable and vengeful people are getting their hands on them. Personality disorders are not going to be cured. We can't just infuse people with empathy. Something has got to change. We have to take one of the ingredients out of the recipe.

blueandwhite

pandora wrote:

This the kind of judgement and prejudice that sneaks out.
Some people won't admit they want
all guns banned because that is uncompromising.
But with these feelings gushing out of people we know the motive
for gun control. They want them gone, all gone. They want the right
taken away to protect oneself, their families and their property.
Because they don't want the right they think they can strip everyone of it.
Why the NRA has the following it does.
People want this right and they will fight to keep it.

Paranoid enough?

I'm sorry, but the US has a serious gun problem. You have no problem insuring your homes, your cars and even your bodies but many Americans seem to go ape crazy when anybody suggests any sort of limit on firearms; even semi automatic rifles which have virtually no other real world application beyond creating carnage. When your nation can't even engage in a civilized discourse on firearm safety you have a real problem on your hands.

Then again, I suppose I must be out to get you, your family and your property. It's all just one big Canadian conspiracy to destroy America.

mickeyrat

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Part of what? You do realize that almost half of US households legally own a gun correct? People focus on these isolated instances and yes they are tragic, but they are isolated. What if someone stole your car right now and drove down a sidewalk killing 30 people. Does this make you an irresponsible car owner? :?

last time I checked, I don't need a gun to get to work. your car/gun analogy is weak at best. stop using it. it doesn't make any sense. you are comparing things used in life that have USES other than killing.

unless you are like Homer Simpson and use it to open a can of Spaghetti-O's.

And you TELLING people what they need or don't need is not the way this country was built. Especially law abiding US citizens just excercising their rights. And no any analogy made to guns including cars is not weak. This is a question of rights and what people feel OTHERS should do because of their own feelings and bias. And no you DONT need a car. You can walk...take a bike.

Did you know more kids are killed in backyard pools every year, overwhelmingly actually, than by legally owned weapons?

how many of those drownings were murder?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

And you TELLING people what they need or don't need is not the way this country was built. Especially law abiding US citizens just excercising their rights. And no any analogy made to guns including cars is not weak. This is a question of rights and what people feel OTHERS should do because of their own feelings and bias. And no you DONT need a car. You can walk...take a bike.

Did you know more kids are killed in backyard pools every year, overwhelmingly actually, than by legally owned weapons?

actually, no, I bus to work.

I am not biased. I have never had a personal bad experience with guns, nor been directly affected by anything of the sort. that would be biased.

good to know! I was thinking of buying my daughter a pool next summer, now I'll buy her a gun! :fp:

DS1119

mickeyrat wrote:

how many of those drownings were murder?

WHo gives a shit? Obviously we as US citizens can't handle having pools in this country so why not perform background checks and place risidculous restrictions on who can have a pool. It's obvious we have a pool problem in the country and we need to step up.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

blueandwhite wrote:

pandora wrote:

This the kind of judgement and prejudice that sneaks out.
Some people won't admit they want
all guns banned because that is uncompromising.
But with these feelings gushing out of people we know the motive
for gun control. They want them gone, all gone. They want the right
taken away to protect oneself, their families and their property.
Because they don't want the right they think they can strip everyone of it.
Why the NRA has the following it does.
People want this right and they will fight to keep it.

Then again, I suppose I must be out to get you, your family and your property. It's all just one big Canadian conspiracy to destroy America.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

how many of those drownings were murder?

WHo gives a shit? Obviously we as US citizens can't handle having pools in this country so why not perform background checks and place risidculous restrictions on who can have a pool. It's obvious we have a pool problem in the country and we need to step up.

you are grasping at the ever present straw in this argument.

dignin

DS1119 wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

how many of those drownings were murder?

WHo gives a shit? Obviously we as US citizens can't handle having pools in this country so why not perform background checks and place risidculous restrictions on who can have a pool. It's obvious we have a pool problem in the country and we need to step up.

Really grasping at straws now.....better go back to talking about cars.

Edit: Shit, the lead singer of The Headstones beat me to it.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

DS1119 wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

how many of those drownings were murder?

WHo gives a shit? Obviously we as US citizens can't handle having pools in this country so why not perform background checks and place risidculous restrictions on who can have a pool. It's obvious we have a pool problem in the country and we need to step up.

Seriously? You don't see a difference between accidental deaths versus homicidal deaths?

Oy-yoy-yoy.

DS1119

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

actually, no, I bus to work.

I am not biased. I have never had a personal bad experience with guns, nor been directly affected by anything of the sort. that would be biased.

good to know! I was thinking of buying my daughter a pool next summer, now I'll buy her a gun! :fp:

Buses are part of the problem man. They're just bigger cars. And about your gun snicker I think you think is funny and witty. Your household would actually be safer statistically having a gun than having a pool for the safety of your child.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

Your household would actually be safer statistically having a gun than having a pool for the safety of your child.

then I'll just fill my bathtub with bullets and hope for the best.