What cracks me up in the gun debate is people who cite issues like safety...protection...kids. It's all fucking bullshit. If those were your concerns you would target the bigger issues first instead of pushing what you think are issues. Fucking cracks me up some times the ignorance. It's sad actually.
20 kids get murdered and that's tragic as fuck. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic and tugs the fuck out of my heart. But in the period between when this happened and right now how many people were killed by drunk drivers. Were's the call on the ban of alcohol? Almost have of the residences in this fucking country have guns but these little incidents get all the attention. Just last week a car of high school was taken out here in ALbany by a drunk driver. A REPEAT druk driver actually? Where's the bleeding hearts for this shit nationally? There isn't. Why...it's not sexy and it doesn't follow the liberals policy pushed through the media. Guns a problem in this country...my ass? There's morality and mental problems not fucking gun prolems.
WHo gives a shit? Obviously we as US citizens can't handle having pools in this country so why not perform background checks and place risidculous restrictions on who can have a pool. It's obvious we have a pool problem in the country and we need to step up.
Seriously? You don't see a difference between accidental deaths versus homicidal deaths?
Oy-yoy-yoy.
But yet when people talk about guns they want to bring up the issue of accidental deaths. Fucking accidental deaths by guns pales in comparison to weapons in this country, but yet it's always brought up. Can't have it both ways people. :?
What cracks me up in the gun debate is people who cite issues like safety...protection...kids. It's all fucking bullshit. If those were your concerns you would target the bigger issues first instead of pushing what you think are issues. Fucking cracks me up some times the ignorance. It's sad actually.
20 kids get murdered and that's tragic as fuck. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic and tugs the fuck out of my heart. But in the period between when this happened and right now how many people were killed by drunk drivers. Were's the call on the ban of alcohol? Almost have of the residences in this fucking country have guns but these little incidents get all the attention. Just last week a car of high school was taken out here in ALbany by a drunk driver. A REPEAT druk driver actually? Where's the bleeding hearts for this shit nationally? There isn't. Why...it's not sexy and it doesn't follow the liberals policy pushed through the media. Guns a problem in this country...my ass? There's morality and mental problems not fucking gun prolems.
there are many issues to be tackled, absolutely. it gets the attention because I have never heard of 20 children being killed by a drunk driver. if it happened, damn right you'd see multiple threads about it. I've started drinking and driving threads myself.
but trying to deflect it because there are "bigger things" is just missing the point entirely. gun violence is a MASSIVE issue. I think it's very telling that you call them "little incidences". :? tell that to the families of the deceased children.
there's also a flare up because of "people" starting threads saying "I just bought 3 guns".
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But yet when people talk about guns they want to bring up the issue of accidental deaths. Fucking accidental deaths by guns pales in comparison to weapons in this country, but yet it's always brought up. Can't have it both ways people. :?
I'll never get how people don't understand this. Guns are used for nothing else but to harm. If swimming pools were used only as a tool of "protection" or murder, then yes, I'd say ban the fuck out of swimming pools too. You can't compare guns to toys and things of recreation. it's just plain stupid.
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What cracks me up in the gun debate is people who cite issues like safety...protection...kids. It's all fucking bullshit. If those were your concerns you would target the bigger issues first instead of pushing what you think are issues. Fucking cracks me up some times the ignorance. It's sad actually.
20 kids get murdered and that's tragic as fuck. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic and tugs the fuck out of my heart. But in the period between when this happened and right now how many people were killed by drunk drivers. Were's the call on the ban of alcohol? Almost have of the residences in this fucking country have guns but these little incidents get all the attention. Just last week a car of high school was taken out here in ALbany by a drunk driver. A REPEAT druk driver actually? Where's the bleeding hearts for this shit nationally? There isn't. Why...it's not sexy and it doesn't follow the liberals policy pushed through the media. Guns a problem in this country...my ass? There's morality and mental problems not fucking gun prolems.
there are many issues to be tackled, absolutely. it gets the attention because I have never heard of 20 children being killed by a drunk driver. if it happened, damn right you'd see multiple threads about it. I've started drinking and driving threads myself.
but trying to deflect it because there are "bigger things" is just missing the point entirely. gun violence is a MASSIVE issue. I think it's very telling that you call them "little incidences". :? tell that to the families of the deceased children.
there's also a flare up because of "people" starting threads saying "I just bought 3 guns".
since you stated in the other thread that you only find worth in humans if they are american born, I can no longer respect or pay attention to anything that you say.
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St. Paul 2014
What cracks me up in the gun debate is people who cite issues like safety...protection...kids. It's all fucking bullshit. If those were your concerns you would target the bigger issues first instead of pushing what you think are issues. Fucking cracks me up some times the ignorance. It's sad actually.
20 kids get murdered and that's tragic as fuck. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic and tugs the fuck out of my heart. But in the period between when this happened and right now how many people were killed by drunk drivers. Were's the call on the ban of alcohol? Almost have of the residences in this fucking country have guns but these little incidents get all the attention. Just last week a car of high school was taken out here in ALbany by a drunk driver. A REPEAT druk driver actually? Where's the bleeding hearts for this shit nationally? There isn't. Why...it's not sexy and it doesn't follow the liberals policy pushed through the media. Guns a problem in this country...my ass? There's morality and mental problems not fucking gun prolems.
there are many issues to be tackled, absolutely. it gets the attention because I have never heard of 20 children being killed by a drunk driver. if it happened, damn right you'd see multiple threads about it. I've started drinking and driving threads myself.
but trying to deflect it because there are "bigger things" is just missing the point entirely. gun violence is a MASSIVE issue. I think it's very telling that you call them "little incidences". :? tell that to the families of the deceased children.
there's also a flare up because of "people" starting threads saying "I just bought 3 guns".
Portland Mall Shooter Stopped by CCW holder, Media lies by omission.
Published on Dec 15, 2012
Found this news report. Notice it did not become breaking news on CNN and was hardly mentioned other places. This is how the media lies by omission. Our "news" is nothing more than propaganda.
Debatable... Meli pulled his gun, and to his credit didn't shoot because of other people. Meli then hid in a store. The gunman ran, and shot himself when police (and sirens) were arriving.
But it's worth pointing out that Meli didn't have a stupid assault rifle or a gun with a 30 Rd magazine.
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“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
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I like the drinking and driving example as I've used it this week myself but in argument FOR gun control. You used to be able to drink and drive in this country before we knew the dangers and the accidents it caused. Then we made it illegal to drink and drive with massive jail sentences for those who harm someone if they do it.
If more and more violent crimes occur with Guns then we will have no choice than to have stricter gun laws. Blame the people with mental health all you want and how people kill people but not guns, but if the Gun Lobby doesn't back off and agree to some tighter gun control you will lose all access to guns eventually. The tide is turning in this country against guns so to keep the 2nd amendment the NRA would be smart to back off some of there hard line stances to at least appear they are willing cooperate or a liberal president with more balls than Obama will go after guns HARD.
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What cracks me up in the gun debate is people who cite issues like safety...protection...kids. It's all fucking bullshit. If those were your concerns you would target the bigger issues first instead of pushing what you think are issues. Fucking cracks me up some times the ignorance. It's sad actually.
20 kids get murdered and that's tragic as fuck. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic and tugs the fuck out of my heart. But in the period between when this happened and right now how many people were killed by drunk drivers. Were's the call on the ban of alcohol? Almost have of the residences in this fucking country have guns but these little incidents get all the attention. Just last week a car of high school was taken out here in ALbany by a drunk driver. A REPEAT druk driver actually? Where's the bleeding hearts for this shit nationally? There isn't. Why...it's not sexy and it doesn't follow the liberals policy pushed through the media. Guns a problem in this country...my ass? There's morality and mental problems not fucking gun prolems.
there are many issues to be tackled, absolutely. it gets the attention because I have never heard of 20 children being killed by a drunk driver. if it happened, damn right you'd see multiple threads about it. I've started drinking and driving threads myself.
but trying to deflect it because there are "bigger things" is just missing the point entirely. gun violence is a MASSIVE issue. I think it's very telling that you call them "little incidences". :? tell that to the families of the deceased children.
there's also a flare up because of "people" starting threads saying "I just bought 3 guns".
Legal gun ownership is not a problem in the US.
Most guns used in recent mass shootings were legally purchased/owned. Maybe it's time to tighten up what can be legally owned/sold, and to whom.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
I like the drinking and driving example as I've used it this week myself but in argument FOR gun control. You used to be able to drink and drive in this country before we knew the dangers and the accidents it caused. Then we made it illegal to drink and drive with massive jail sentences for those who harm someone if they do it.
If more and more violent crimes occur with Guns then we will have no choice than to have stricter gun laws. Blame the people with mental health all you want and how people kill people but not guns, but if the Gun Lobby doesn't back off and agree to some tighter gun control you will lose all access to guns eventually. The tide is turning in this country against guns so to keep the 2nd amendment the NRA would be smart to back off some of there hard line stances to at least appear they are willing cooperate or a liberal president with more balls than Obama will go after guns HARD.
Yes, the gun / car camparison is beyond dumb and actually hurts those that defend guns when the comparison is logically processed.
since you stated in the other thread that you only find worth in humans if they are american born, I can no longer respect or pay attention to anything that you say.
Aside from this little petri dish that is the Pearl Jam community ,which is a small highly liberal sampling of the population, tend to believe there are.
Aside from this little petri dish that is the Pearl Jam community ,which is a small highly liberal sampling of the population, tend to believe there are.
No. There are other issues to worry about, to be sure. There are not bigger issues to worry about.
I still don't get your tunnel vision and fascination with telling other people what they should worry about.
Cancer kills more people every year than AIDS, ALS, terrorism, car crashes, house fires, etc etc etc. By your logic we should completely ignore everything else and only focus on cancer, right?
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Aside from this little petri dish that is the Pearl Jam community ,which is a small highly liberal sampling of the population, tend to believe there are.
No. There are other issues to worry about, to be sure. There are not bigger issues to worry about.
Aside from this little petri dish that is the Pearl Jam community ,which is a small highly liberal sampling of the population, tend to believe there are.
No. There are other issues to worry about, to be sure. There are not bigger issues to worry about.
Most certainly there is in my opinion.
And perhaps also on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the little petri dish of the far right lunatic fringe.
And perhaps also on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the little petri dish of the far right lunatic fringe.
And this is the problem. People who are conservatives are viewed as lunatics. Well I guess I'd rather be a lunatic than some bleeding heart that with every little incident that happens they demand huge government interaction and the "we must change this issue" mindset. Once this issue in CT blows away from national attention the liberals will be back to protesting about people eating meat and wearing fur.
And perhaps also on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the little petri dish of the far right lunatic fringe.
And this is the problem. People who are conservatives are viewed as lunatics. Well I guess I'd rather be a lunatic than some bleeding heart that with every little incident that happens they demand huge government interaction and the "we must change this issue" mindset. Once this issue in CT blows away from national attention the liberals will be back to protesting about people eating meat and wearing fur.
It's not every little incident that has people outraged. It's a whole pile of them. And, for that matter, you call this incident little? Geez man. What is wrong with you?
And perhaps also on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the little petri dish of the far right lunatic fringe.
And this is the problem. People who are conservatives are viewed as lunatics. Well I guess I'd rather be a lunatic than some bleeding heart that with every little incident that happens they demand huge government interaction and the "we must change this issue" mindset. Once this issue in CT blows away from national attention the liberals will be back to protesting about people eating meat and wearing fur.
No, this is not the problem. You implied that everyone here who disagrees with your opinions and your conduct since Friday morning was floating around in some sort of liberal petri dish. (By the way, I am far from a liberal.) I think it is just as valid to say that someone who subscribes to your point of view, and who has carried on about it in the way you have, would be right at home on Fox News or the Limbaugh show...or worse, hence the lunatic fringe line.
I still don't get your tunnel vision and fascination with telling other people what they should worry about.
Cancer kills more people every year than AIDS, ALS, terrorism, car crashes, house fires, etc etc etc. By your logic we should completely ignore everything else and only focus on cancer, right?
It gets old fast huh? Heart disease is a motherfucker too. We should give up all causes and concerns in lieu of fixing it.
It's not every little incident that has people outraged. It's a whole pile of them. And, for that matter, you call this incident little? Geez man. What is wrong with you?
Tragic yes. In the grand scheme of guns legally owned in this country...very small issue.
Portland Mall Shooter Stopped by CCW holder, Media lies by omission.
Published on Dec 15, 2012
Found this news report. Notice it did not become breaking news on CNN and was hardly mentioned other places. This is how the media lies by omission. Our "news" is nothing more than propaganda.
...
Wait. Didn't the gunman... SHOOT HIMSELF.
So.. the gunman... was the one that actually shot the shooter. So, the Gunman... was the hero?
What the fuck?
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Portland Mall Shooter Stopped by CCW holder, Media lies by omission.
Published on Dec 15, 2012
Found this news report. Notice it did not become breaking news on CNN and was hardly mentioned other places. This is how the media lies by omission. Our "news" is nothing more than propaganda.
...
Wait. Didn't the gunman... SHOOT HIMSELF.
So.. the gunman... was the one that actually shot the shooter. So, the Gunman... was the hero?
What the fuck?
essentially he finally protected people from himself?
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20 kids get murdered and that's tragic as fuck. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic and tugs the fuck out of my heart. But in the period between when this happened and right now how many people were killed by drunk drivers. Were's the call on the ban of alcohol? Almost have of the residences in this fucking country have guns but these little incidents get all the attention. Just last week a car of high school was taken out here in ALbany by a drunk driver. A REPEAT druk driver actually? Where's the bleeding hearts for this shit nationally? There isn't. Why...it's not sexy and it doesn't follow the liberals policy pushed through the media. Guns a problem in this country...my ass? There's morality and mental problems not fucking gun prolems.
But yet when people talk about guns they want to bring up the issue of accidental deaths. Fucking accidental deaths by guns pales in comparison to weapons in this country, but yet it's always brought up. Can't have it both ways people. :?
there are many issues to be tackled, absolutely. it gets the attention because I have never heard of 20 children being killed by a drunk driver. if it happened, damn right you'd see multiple threads about it. I've started drinking and driving threads myself.
but trying to deflect it because there are "bigger things" is just missing the point entirely. gun violence is a MASSIVE issue. I think it's very telling that you call them "little incidences". :? tell that to the families of the deceased children.
there's also a flare up because of "people" starting threads saying "I just bought 3 guns".
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I'll never get how people don't understand this. Guns are used for nothing else but to harm. If swimming pools were used only as a tool of "protection" or murder, then yes, I'd say ban the fuck out of swimming pools too. You can't compare guns to toys and things of recreation. it's just plain stupid.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Legal gun ownership is not a problem in the US.
since you stated in the other thread that you only find worth in humans if they are american born, I can no longer respect or pay attention to anything that you say.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
It became a big problem just the other day.
Debatable... Meli pulled his gun, and to his credit didn't shoot because of other people. Meli then hid in a store. The gunman ran, and shot himself when police (and sirens) were arriving.
But it's worth pointing out that Meli didn't have a stupid assault rifle or a gun with a 30 Rd magazine.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
If more and more violent crimes occur with Guns then we will have no choice than to have stricter gun laws. Blame the people with mental health all you want and how people kill people but not guns, but if the Gun Lobby doesn't back off and agree to some tighter gun control you will lose all access to guns eventually. The tide is turning in this country against guns so to keep the 2nd amendment the NRA would be smart to back off some of there hard line stances to at least appear they are willing cooperate or a liberal president with more balls than Obama will go after guns HARD.
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7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
Most guns used in recent mass shootings were legally purchased/owned. Maybe it's time to tighten up what can be legally owned/sold, and to whom.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Never said that.
There are much bigger issues to worry about.
No there are not.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
We're a multitasking bunch, we can worry about multiple issues at the same time.
Aside from this little petri dish that is the Pearl Jam community ,which is a small highly liberal sampling of the population, tend to believe there are.
No. There are other issues to worry about, to be sure. There are not bigger issues to worry about.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Really? The safety of future kindergarten classes wouldn't kinda jump to the top of lists for things to do?
So if the safety of your children and the future of your country isn't a priority, then what is?
Cancer kills more people every year than AIDS, ALS, terrorism, car crashes, house fires, etc etc etc. By your logic we should completely ignore everything else and only focus on cancer, right?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Most certainly there is in my opinion.
If you really think this is such a huge issue you should really step back and reassess.
And perhaps also on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the little petri dish of the far right lunatic fringe.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
And this is the problem. People who are conservatives are viewed as lunatics. Well I guess I'd rather be a lunatic than some bleeding heart that with every little incident that happens they demand huge government interaction and the "we must change this issue" mindset. Once this issue in CT blows away from national attention the liberals will be back to protesting about people eating meat and wearing fur.
It's not every little incident that has people outraged. It's a whole pile of them. And, for that matter, you call this incident little? Geez man. What is wrong with you?
No, this is not the problem. You implied that everyone here who disagrees with your opinions and your conduct since Friday morning was floating around in some sort of liberal petri dish. (By the way, I am far from a liberal.) I think it is just as valid to say that someone who subscribes to your point of view, and who has carried on about it in the way you have, would be right at home on Fox News or the Limbaugh show...or worse, hence the lunatic fringe line.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
It gets old fast huh? Heart disease is a motherfucker too. We should give up all causes and concerns in lieu of fixing it.
You have such a way with words.
Tragic yes. In the grand scheme of guns legally owned in this country...very small issue.
Wait. Didn't the gunman... SHOOT HIMSELF.
So.. the gunman... was the one that actually shot the shooter. So, the Gunman... was the hero?
What the fuck?
Hail, Hail!!!