Media lies by omission, Someone with a GUN Stopped this!

DS1119

JimmyV wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Aside from this little petri dish that is the Pearl Jam community ,which is a small highly liberal sampling of the population, tend to believe there are.

No. There are other issues to worry about, to be sure. There are not bigger issues to worry about.

Most certainly there is in my opinion.

DS1119

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

It became a big problem just the other day.

There are much bigger issues to worry about.

Really? The safety of future kindergarten classes wouldn't kinda jump to the top of lists for things to do?

So if the safety of your children and the future of your country isn't a priority, then what is?

If you really think this is such a huge issue you should really step back and reassess.

JimmyV

DS1119 wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Aside from this little petri dish that is the Pearl Jam community ,which is a small highly liberal sampling of the population, tend to believe there are.

No. There are other issues to worry about, to be sure. There are not bigger issues to worry about.

Most certainly there is in my opinion.

And perhaps also on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the little petri dish of the far right lunatic fringe.

DS1119

JimmyV wrote:

And perhaps also on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the little petri dish of the far right lunatic fringe.

And this is the problem. People who are conservatives are viewed as lunatics. Well I guess I'd rather be a lunatic than some bleeding heart that with every little incident that happens they demand huge government interaction and the "we must change this issue" mindset. Once this issue in CT blows away from national attention the liberals will be back to protesting about people eating meat and wearing fur.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

DS1119 wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

And perhaps also on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the little petri dish of the far right lunatic fringe.

And this is the problem. People who are conservatives are viewed as lunatics. Well I guess I'd rather be a lunatic than some bleeding heart that with every little incident that happens they demand huge government interaction and the "we must change this issue" mindset. Once this issue in CT blows away from national attention the liberals will be back to protesting about people eating meat and wearing fur.

It's not every little incident that has people outraged. It's a whole pile of them. And, for that matter, you call this incident little? Geez man. What is wrong with you?

JimmyV

DS1119 wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

And perhaps also on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the little petri dish of the far right lunatic fringe.

And this is the problem. People who are conservatives are viewed as lunatics. Well I guess I'd rather be a lunatic than some bleeding heart that with every little incident that happens they demand huge government interaction and the "we must change this issue" mindset. Once this issue in CT blows away from national attention the liberals will be back to protesting about people eating meat and wearing fur.

No, this is not the problem. You implied that everyone here who disagrees with your opinions and your conduct since Friday morning was floating around in some sort of liberal petri dish. (By the way, I am far from a liberal.) I think it is just as valid to say that someone who subscribes to your point of view, and who has carried on about it in the way you have, would be right at home on Fox News or the Limbaugh show...or worse, hence the lunatic fringe line.

JonnyPistachio

blackredyellow wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

It became a big problem just the other day.

There are much bigger issues to worry about.

I still don't get your tunnel vision and fascination with telling other people what they should worry about.

Cancer kills more people every year than AIDS, ALS, terrorism, car crashes, house fires, etc etc etc. By your logic we should completely ignore everything else and only focus on cancer, right?

It gets old fast huh? Heart disease is a motherfucker too. We should give up all causes and concerns in lieu of fixing it.

DS1119 wrote:

Once this issue in CT blows away from national attention the liberals will be back to protesting about people eating meat and wearing fur.

You have such a way with words.

DS1119

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

It's not every little incident that has people outraged. It's a whole pile of them. And, for that matter, you call this incident little? Geez man. What is wrong with you?

Tragic yes. In the grand scheme of guns legally owned in this country...very small issue.

Cosmo

aerial wrote:

Portland Mall Shooter Stopped by CCW holder, Media lies by omission.

Published on Dec 15, 2012
Found this news report. Notice it did not become breaking news on CNN and was hardly mentioned other places. This is how the media lies by omission. Our "news" is nothing more than propaganda.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLgO4wo4xI

...
Wait. Didn't the gunman... SHOOT HIMSELF.
So.. the gunman... was the one that actually shot the shooter. So, the Gunman... was the hero?
What the fuck?

JonnyPistachio

Cosmo wrote:

aerial wrote:

Portland Mall Shooter Stopped by CCW holder, Media lies by omission.

Published on Dec 15, 2012
Found this news report. Notice it did not become breaking news on CNN and was hardly mentioned other places. This is how the media lies by omission. Our "news" is nothing more than propaganda.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLgO4wo4xI

...
Wait. Didn't the gunman... SHOOT HIMSELF.
So.. the gunman... was the one that actually shot the shooter. So, the Gunman... was the hero?
What the fuck?

essentially he finally protected people from himself?

dimitrispearljam

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

aerial wrote:

Portland Mall Shooter Stopped by CCW holder, Media lies by omission.

Published on Dec 15, 2012
Found this news report. Notice it did not become breaking news on CNN and was hardly mentioned other places. This is how the media lies by omission. Our "news" is nothing more than propaganda.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLgO4wo4xI

...
Wait. Didn't the gunman... SHOOT HIMSELF.
So.. the gunman... was the one that actually shot the shooter. So, the Gunman... was the hero?
What the fuck?

essentially he finally protected people from himself?

haha..both fuckin smart comments!!

DS1119

dimitrispearljam wrote:

haha..both fuckin smart comments!!

don't your work for the greek air force? isn't the point of an airforce to kill people.....not that anybody is actualy scared of the greek military

JimmyV

DS1119 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

haha..both fuckin smart comments!!

don't your work for the greek air force? isn't the point of an airforce to kill people.....not that anybody is actualy scared of the greek military

That is not its point, no. Its point is to protect its citizens. Killing people is sometimes necessary but that is not its point.

DS1119

JimmyV wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

haha..both fuckin smart comments!!

don't your work for the greek air force? isn't the point of an airforce to kill people.....not that anybody is actualy scared of the greek military

That is not its point, no. Its point is to protect its citizens. Killing people is sometimes necessary but that is not its point.

And US citizens owning legally obtained weapons for protection are doing it for the same exact reasons.

dimitrispearljam

JimmyV wrote:

That is not its point, no. Its point is to protect its citizens. Killing people is sometimes necessary but that is not its point.

i serve my country to protect it from foreign and domestic enemies..
for continue my nation live in democracy and peace and the citizens of my country be safe
if my country start first a war and attacks another country,they will get my resignation first thing tomorrow morning....

Thirty Bills Unpaid

DS...

Do you have a reasonable timeline when the government is going to become tyrannical and enslave all of its citizens?

You refer often to the distrust you have for the government and their sinister, lurking, bigger agenda that they have been waiting for over 250 years to unleash.

Is paranoia enough to prevent measures taken to curb gun violence? Britain once ruled the world. They have fought extensively building empire and in major wars. Taking it even further... they fought a tyrannical King and sent him to the guillotine. They still have an active, armed, and impressive military. Yet... the country doesn't harbour deep fears that they may get thrust back into a time where oppression rules. They have laid down their arms and their children are safer for doing so. I speak of Britain's past because often, gun lovers suggest that the gun culture that exists in the USA stems from the violent past the country has.

Look at the following 2010 stats and tell me what jumps out at you:

Gun ownership per 100 people:
UK 6.72
US 88.82

Number of murders by gun:
UK 58 (equivalent to 290 murders with a US population)
US 8,775

How do you refute these numbers?

blackredyellow

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

DS...

Do you have a reasonable timeline when the government is going to become tyrannical and enslave all of its citizens?

You refer often to the distrust you have for the government and their sinister, lurking, bigger agenda that they have been waiting for over 250 years to unleash.

Is paranoia enough to prevent measures taken to curb gun violence? Britain once ruled the world. They have fought extensively building empire and in major wars. Taking it even further... they fought a tyrannical King and sent him to the guillotine. They still have an active, armed, and impressive military. Yet... the country doesn't harbour deep fears that they may get thrust back into a time where oppression rules. They have laid down their arms and their children are safer for doing so. I speak of Britain's past because often, gun lovers suggest that the gun culture that exists in the USA stems from the violent past the country has.

Look at the following 2010 stats and tell me what jumps out at you:

Gun ownership per 100 people:
UK 6.72
US 88.82

Number of murders by gun:
UK 58 (equivalent to 290 murders with a US population)
US 8,775

How do you refute these numbers?

I've seen this posted before, but if more guns made us safer, we'd be the safest country in the world.

It's obvious that the inverse is true.

JimmyV

DS1119 wrote:

And US citizens owning legally obtained weapons for protection are doing it for the same exact reasons.

But the laws regarding what is a legally obtained weapon should be changed, and many types of weapons that can be legally obtained today should never be obtained.

JimmyV

dimitrispearljam wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

That is not its point, no. Its point is to protect its citizens. Killing people is sometimes necessary but that is not its point.

i serve my country to protect it from foreign and domestic enemies..
for continue my nation live in democracy and peace and the citizens of my country be safe
if my country start first a war and attacks another country,they will get my resignation first thing tomorrow morning....

DS1119

dimitrispearljam wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

That is not its point, no. Its point is to protect its citizens. Killing people is sometimes necessary but that is not its point.

i serve my country to protect it from foreign and domestic enemies..
for continue my nation live in democracy and peace and the citizens of my country be safe
if my country start first a war and attacks another country,they will get my resignation first thing tomorrow morning....

But if you feel guns don't make you or your country safer why do you have them? And I guess whay you're saying is that you believe it's ok to murder someone if you're being attacked...kind of the same exact feeling legal gun owners in this country have actually.