Media lies by omission, Someone with a GUN Stopped this!

Hugh Freaking Dillon

dignin wrote:

Really grasping at straws now.....better go back to talking about cars.

Edit: Shit, the lead singer of The Headstones beat me to it.

DS1119

What cracks me up in the gun debate is people who cite issues like safety...protection...kids. It's all fucking bullshit. If those were your concerns you would target the bigger issues first instead of pushing what you think are issues. Fucking cracks me up some times the ignorance. It's sad actually.

20 kids get murdered and that's tragic as fuck. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic and tugs the fuck out of my heart. But in the period between when this happened and right now how many people were killed by drunk drivers. Were's the call on the ban of alcohol? Almost have of the residences in this fucking country have guns but these little incidents get all the attention. Just last week a car of high school was taken out here in ALbany by a drunk driver. A REPEAT druk driver actually? Where's the bleeding hearts for this shit nationally? There isn't. Why...it's not sexy and it doesn't follow the liberals policy pushed through the media. Guns a problem in this country...my ass? There's morality and mental problems not fucking gun prolems.

DS1119

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

how many of those drownings were murder?

WHo gives a shit? Obviously we as US citizens can't handle having pools in this country so why not perform background checks and place risidculous restrictions on who can have a pool. It's obvious we have a pool problem in the country and we need to step up.

Seriously? You don't see a difference between accidental deaths versus homicidal deaths?

Oy-yoy-yoy.

But yet when people talk about guns they want to bring up the issue of accidental deaths. Fucking accidental deaths by guns pales in comparison to weapons in this country, but yet it's always brought up. Can't have it both ways people. :?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

What cracks me up in the gun debate is people who cite issues like safety...protection...kids. It's all fucking bullshit. If those were your concerns you would target the bigger issues first instead of pushing what you think are issues. Fucking cracks me up some times the ignorance. It's sad actually.

20 kids get murdered and that's tragic as fuck. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic and tugs the fuck out of my heart. But in the period between when this happened and right now how many people were killed by drunk drivers. Were's the call on the ban of alcohol? Almost have of the residences in this fucking country have guns but these little incidents get all the attention. Just last week a car of high school was taken out here in ALbany by a drunk driver. A REPEAT druk driver actually? Where's the bleeding hearts for this shit nationally? There isn't. Why...it's not sexy and it doesn't follow the liberals policy pushed through the media. Guns a problem in this country...my ass? There's morality and mental problems not fucking gun prolems.

there are many issues to be tackled, absolutely. it gets the attention because I have never heard of 20 children being killed by a drunk driver. if it happened, damn right you'd see multiple threads about it. I've started drinking and driving threads myself.

but trying to deflect it because there are "bigger things" is just missing the point entirely. gun violence is a MASSIVE issue. I think it's very telling that you call them "little incidences". :? tell that to the families of the deceased children.

there's also a flare up because of "people" starting threads saying "I just bought 3 guns".

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

But yet when people talk about guns they want to bring up the issue of accidental deaths. Fucking accidental deaths by guns pales in comparison to weapons in this country, but yet it's always brought up. Can't have it both ways people. :?

I'll never get how people don't understand this. Guns are used for nothing else but to harm. If swimming pools were used only as a tool of "protection" or murder, then yes, I'd say ban the fuck out of swimming pools too. You can't compare guns to toys and things of recreation. it's just plain stupid.

DS1119

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

What cracks me up in the gun debate is people who cite issues like safety...protection...kids. It's all fucking bullshit. If those were your concerns you would target the bigger issues first instead of pushing what you think are issues. Fucking cracks me up some times the ignorance. It's sad actually.

20 kids get murdered and that's tragic as fuck. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic and tugs the fuck out of my heart. But in the period between when this happened and right now how many people were killed by drunk drivers. Were's the call on the ban of alcohol? Almost have of the residences in this fucking country have guns but these little incidents get all the attention. Just last week a car of high school was taken out here in ALbany by a drunk driver. A REPEAT druk driver actually? Where's the bleeding hearts for this shit nationally? There isn't. Why...it's not sexy and it doesn't follow the liberals policy pushed through the media. Guns a problem in this country...my ass? There's morality and mental problems not fucking gun prolems.

there are many issues to be tackled, absolutely. it gets the attention because I have never heard of 20 children being killed by a drunk driver. if it happened, damn right you'd see multiple threads about it. I've started drinking and driving threads myself.

but trying to deflect it because there are "bigger things" is just missing the point entirely. gun violence is a MASSIVE issue. I think it's very telling that you call them "little incidences". :? tell that to the families of the deceased children.

there's also a flare up because of "people" starting threads saying "I just bought 3 guns".

Legal gun ownership is not a problem in the US.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

Legal gun ownership is not a problem in the US.

since you stated in the other thread that you only find worth in humans if they are american born, I can no longer respect or pay attention to anything that you say.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

What cracks me up in the gun debate is people who cite issues like safety...protection...kids. It's all fucking bullshit. If those were your concerns you would target the bigger issues first instead of pushing what you think are issues. Fucking cracks me up some times the ignorance. It's sad actually.

20 kids get murdered and that's tragic as fuck. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic and tugs the fuck out of my heart. But in the period between when this happened and right now how many people were killed by drunk drivers. Were's the call on the ban of alcohol? Almost have of the residences in this fucking country have guns but these little incidents get all the attention. Just last week a car of high school was taken out here in ALbany by a drunk driver. A REPEAT druk driver actually? Where's the bleeding hearts for this shit nationally? There isn't. Why...it's not sexy and it doesn't follow the liberals policy pushed through the media. Guns a problem in this country...my ass? There's morality and mental problems not fucking gun prolems.

there are many issues to be tackled, absolutely. it gets the attention because I have never heard of 20 children being killed by a drunk driver. if it happened, damn right you'd see multiple threads about it. I've started drinking and driving threads myself.

but trying to deflect it because there are "bigger things" is just missing the point entirely. gun violence is a MASSIVE issue. I think it's very telling that you call them "little incidences". :? tell that to the families of the deceased children.

there's also a flare up because of "people" starting threads saying "I just bought 3 guns".

Legal gun ownership is not a problem in the US.

It became a big problem just the other day.

blackredyellow

aerial wrote:

Portland Mall Shooter Stopped by CCW holder, Media lies by omission.

Published on Dec 15, 2012
Found this news report. Notice it did not become breaking news on CNN and was hardly mentioned other places. This is how the media lies by omission. Our "news" is nothing more than propaganda.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLgO4wo4xI

Debatable... Meli pulled his gun, and to his credit didn't shoot because of other people. Meli then hid in a store. The gunman ran, and shot himself when police (and sirens) were arriving.

But it's worth pointing out that Meli didn't have a stupid assault rifle or a gun with a 30 Rd magazine.

Its Evolution Baby

I like the drinking and driving example as I've used it this week myself but in argument FOR gun control. You used to be able to drink and drive in this country before we knew the dangers and the accidents it caused. Then we made it illegal to drink and drive with massive jail sentences for those who harm someone if they do it.

If more and more violent crimes occur with Guns then we will have no choice than to have stricter gun laws. Blame the people with mental health all you want and how people kill people but not guns, but if the Gun Lobby doesn't back off and agree to some tighter gun control you will lose all access to guns eventually. The tide is turning in this country against guns so to keep the 2nd amendment the NRA would be smart to back off some of there hard line stances to at least appear they are willing cooperate or a liberal president with more balls than Obama will go after guns HARD.

blackredyellow

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

What cracks me up in the gun debate is people who cite issues like safety...protection...kids. It's all fucking bullshit. If those were your concerns you would target the bigger issues first instead of pushing what you think are issues. Fucking cracks me up some times the ignorance. It's sad actually.

20 kids get murdered and that's tragic as fuck. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic and tugs the fuck out of my heart. But in the period between when this happened and right now how many people were killed by drunk drivers. Were's the call on the ban of alcohol? Almost have of the residences in this fucking country have guns but these little incidents get all the attention. Just last week a car of high school was taken out here in ALbany by a drunk driver. A REPEAT druk driver actually? Where's the bleeding hearts for this shit nationally? There isn't. Why...it's not sexy and it doesn't follow the liberals policy pushed through the media. Guns a problem in this country...my ass? There's morality and mental problems not fucking gun prolems.

there are many issues to be tackled, absolutely. it gets the attention because I have never heard of 20 children being killed by a drunk driver. if it happened, damn right you'd see multiple threads about it. I've started drinking and driving threads myself.

but trying to deflect it because there are "bigger things" is just missing the point entirely. gun violence is a MASSIVE issue. I think it's very telling that you call them "little incidences". :? tell that to the families of the deceased children.

there's also a flare up because of "people" starting threads saying "I just bought 3 guns".

Legal gun ownership is not a problem in the US.

Most guns used in recent mass shootings were legally purchased/owned. Maybe it's time to tighten up what can be legally owned/sold, and to whom.

Jason P

Its Evolution Baby wrote:

I like the drinking and driving example as I've used it this week myself but in argument FOR gun control. You used to be able to drink and drive in this country before we knew the dangers and the accidents it caused. Then we made it illegal to drink and drive with massive jail sentences for those who harm someone if they do it.

If more and more violent crimes occur with Guns then we will have no choice than to have stricter gun laws. Blame the people with mental health all you want and how people kill people but not guns, but if the Gun Lobby doesn't back off and agree to some tighter gun control you will lose all access to guns eventually. The tide is turning in this country against guns so to keep the 2nd amendment the NRA would be smart to back off some of there hard line stances to at least appear they are willing cooperate or a liberal president with more balls than Obama will go after guns HARD.

Yes, the gun / car camparison is beyond dumb and actually hurts those that defend guns when the comparison is logically processed.

DS1119

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Legal gun ownership is not a problem in the US.

since you stated in the other thread that you only find worth in humans if they are american born, I can no longer respect or pay attention to anything that you say.

Never said that.

DS1119

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

It became a big problem just the other day.

There are much bigger issues to worry about.

JimmyV

DS1119 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

It became a big problem just the other day.

There are much bigger issues to worry about.

No there are not.

JonnyPistachio

DS1119 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

It became a big problem just the other day.

There are much bigger issues to worry about.

We're a multitasking bunch, we can worry about multiple issues at the same time.

DS1119

JimmyV wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

It became a big problem just the other day.

There are much bigger issues to worry about.

No there are not.

Aside from this little petri dish that is the Pearl Jam community ,which is a small highly liberal sampling of the population, tend to believe there are.

JimmyV

DS1119 wrote:

Aside from this little petri dish that is the Pearl Jam community ,which is a small highly liberal sampling of the population, tend to believe there are.

No. There are other issues to worry about, to be sure. There are not bigger issues to worry about.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

DS1119 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

It became a big problem just the other day.

There are much bigger issues to worry about.

Really? The safety of future kindergarten classes wouldn't kinda jump to the top of lists for things to do?

So if the safety of your children and the future of your country isn't a priority, then what is?

blackredyellow

DS1119 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

It became a big problem just the other day.

There are much bigger issues to worry about.

I still don't get your tunnel vision and fascination with telling other people what they should worry about.

Cancer kills more people every year than AIDS, ALS, terrorism, car crashes, house fires, etc etc etc. By your logic we should completely ignore everything else and only focus on cancer, right?