Another shooting at a school.

bootlegger10

This is absolutely horrible. Terrible. Terrible.

rollings

norm wrote:

rollings wrote:

....how the article describes the parents waiting for their children to come out...and those left standing and waiting. oh my God

honestly, i'm not sure i'd be able to go on living if i was one of those parents

I know. I think I would stay and die right there

DewieCox

I usually just shake my head at stuff like this, but this one's got me especially sick to my stomach.

Enkidu

norm wrote:

rollings wrote:

....how the article describes the parents waiting for their children to come out...and those left standing and waiting. oh my God

honestly, i'm not sure i'd be able to go on living if i was one of those parents

I agree. Although you might be the kind of parent who'd devote the rest of your life to gun control and mental illness issues and doing everything you could to keep something like this from ever happening again.

(Damn, I wish I could stop crying.)

norm

Enkidu wrote:

norm wrote:

rollings wrote:

....how the article describes the parents waiting for their children to come out...and those left standing and waiting. oh my God

honestly, i'm not sure i'd be able to go on living if i was one of those parents

I agree. Although you might be the kind of parent who'd devote the rest of your life to gun control and mental illness issues and doing everything you could to keep something like this from ever happening again.

(Damn, I wish I could stop crying.)

i'd hope i could be that strong but to live with the fact that my child die alone (more or less) without me there to help him, i just don't know...

PJinIL

I feel guilty, but so happy and blessed that I'll be hugging by boys extra hard tonight. Those poor families, the little souls of those kids were too good for this world. Prayers for all those touched by this.

PJ_Soul

Enkidu wrote:

norm wrote:

rollings wrote:

....how the article describes the parents waiting for their children to come out...and those left standing and waiting. oh my God

honestly, i'm not sure i'd be able to go on living if i was one of those parents

I agree. Although you might be the kind of parent who'd devote the rest of your life to gun control and mental illness issues and doing everything you could to keep something like this from ever happening again.

(Damn, I wish I could stop crying.)

Or you could have other kids of course... but anyway, yeah, I have no idea how parents can cope with life ever again after such a thing. I would just shut down I think; wouldn't be able to put one foot in front of the other. But it seems that most seem to somehow move on eventually, even though their lives are basically ruined forever.

JonnyPistachio

rollings wrote:

....how the article describes the parents waiting for their children to come out...and those left standing and waiting. oh my God

What a gut-wrenching thought. :(

mickeyrat

latest report gunman found with handguns , a glock 9 and sig sauer( reported to be able to carry an exteneded clip) with his body. Reported to have a bushmaster "type" assualt rifle in his car

JimmyV

Gun lobby frantically at work crafting talking points and spin for its minions to disseminate.

Its Evolution Baby

I've been watching FoxNews this morning because I was curious as to there "angle" on this. So Far they want to implement stricter school security and revamp the Mental Health Industruy. Seems like they are tap dancing around the Gun Issue like they are Gregory Hines.

chadwick

this is bad bad bad
nothing but bad

i can't even think straight right now
i kinda feel like i did after 9/11
all scrambled up & all fucked up
feeling helpless, confused & lost
sad & exhausted

the shooting at the bat man movie @ the theater had me this same way

what is fucked up is that there are so often mass shooting you don't even recover from one before the next one happens. just the other day that shooting happened at the mall. i hadn't even have a chance to look that info up yet before this one here happened. and it was the same with the theater shooting; days later there was another shooting i didn't even get to learn about that one either.

simply... i can't keep (the fuck) up

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I feel catatonic. I want to see my daughters right now.

JonnyPistachio

chadwick wrote:

this is bad bad bad
nothing but bad

i can't even think straight right now
i kinda feel like i did after 9/11
all scrambled up & all fucked up
feeling helpless, confused & lost
sad & exhausted

the shooting at the bat man movie @ the theater had me this same way

what is fucked up is that there are so often mass shooting you don't even recover from one before the next one happens. just the other day that shooting happened at the mall. i hadn't even have a chance to look that info up yet before this one here happened. and it was the same with the theater shooting; days later there was another shooting i didn't even get to learn about that one either.

simply... i can't keep (the fuck) up

I feel the exact same way chadwick. Its freaking me out that this many unstable people can get to this point -- and to kill little kids?!...

ComeToTX

@MMFlint: Just 18 hrs ago, those Republicans in the Michigan House rammed thru a bill making it LEGAL to carry a gun into a school or day care center.

Jason P

mickeyrat wrote:

l Reported to have a bushmaster "type" assualt rifle in his car

Most likely an AR-15 assault rifle. The civilian version of the M-16.

You can pick one up on your way home from work at your local Gander Mountain or Dick's Sporting Goods for around $700.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=GM442164

deserteddotse

Ppl are actually thinking the teachers should have been armed??

FFS! One more: FFS! :fp:

mickeyrat

and in Ohio news today



http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories ... imits.html

Senate votes to loosen gun limits

Other states’ concealed-carry licenses won’t automatically be recognized in Ohio under bill

Drivers could bring guns to the Statehouse or Riffe Center garages, as long as the weapons are left in their vehicles, under a bill that got final legislative approval yesterday.

But before passing it, the Ohio Senate, at the request of Senate President Tom Niehaus, R-New Richmond, stripped out a major provision from House Bill 495 that automatically would have required Ohio to recognize concealed-carry licenses from other states.

Law-enforcement officials had expressed significant concerns about the unlimited reciprocity provision, arguing that it would allow people to carry guns in Ohio who have gone through less training and less-rigorous background checks than are required for Ohio concealed-carry licensees.

The Fraternal Order of Police of Ohio also noted that the bill would have allowed someone who did not qualify for a concealed-carry license in Ohio to simply go to a neighboring state with less-restrictive requirements.

Sen. Bill Seitz, R-Cincinnati, acknowledged that was a fair concern, and he successfully had the reciprocity provision removed from the bill. Both he and Sen. Larry Obhof Jr., R-Montville Township, said they will continue working on the provision next year with law enforcement.

“This is a provision we need to act upon, but we need to do it right,” Seitz said.

Niehaus said he was concerned about whether people from other states carrying guns in Ohio have the right training. “So rather than leave that loophole, I asked that that provision be removed,” he said. “I felt it was important to ensure there was full discussion.”

The bill, pushed by the

National Rifle Association and other Ohio pro-gun-rights groups, also says that a concealed-carry licensee no longer has to demonstrate range competency when renewing the license for a second time. Supporters said the requirement is vague and unnecessary.

In addition, the bill would allow people without concealed-carry licenses to now carry loaded ammunition magazines in their vehicles, so long as they are stored in a compartment separate from the unloaded gun.

The House went along with the Senate changes, though they were not necessarily happy with the “ vast, cool and mysterious ways of the Senate,” as described by bill sponsor Rep. Terry Johnson, R- McDermott. But Johnson said it was still a good bill that “restores a portion of our constitutional rights.”

Senate Minority Leader Eric Kearney, D-Cincinnati, was among the Democrats who questioned why it was necessary to allow people to bring guns to the Statehouse parking garage. Obhof noted that several other state legislatures allow guns in and around their capitol buildings, and the proposal was developed with the State Highway Patrol.

blackredyellow

Obviously reports keep changing, but:

Luke Russert ‏@LukeRussert
Frm @PeteWilliamsNBC Everybody in killer's mom classroom was killed


The killer's mom taught kindergarden... if this report is correct, this monster killed an entire class of kindergartners... 5 year olds... kids who's only worries in life were about what superhero was the best, or what santa was going to bring them...

I have a son who will be 5 next month... I am heartbroken...

rollings

chadwick wrote:

rollings wrote:

....how the article describes the parents waiting for their children to come out...and those left standing and waiting. oh my God

now im crying

this is way fucked up. what can we do to stop this?

I don't know.

It being so much in the news like you said...when people go off the deep end, when people snap they do the worst things. even the murder/suicide football player....if you can get access to a gun, you can cause mass destruction. seems like the thing to do these days, to go out of the world proving some kind of bad point in the horriblest way possible, I guess.

This is the most serious I have ever thought about how bad having access to weapons really is