This has been big news here in Australia this week, a Royal Commission has been set up to investigate the abuse.
What has made my blood boil this week is listening to Cardinal George Pell deny the abuse, and others blaming the victims, and God.
I often have heated arguments with my religious mother who calls me evil for not going to Church.
She has told me I am not a Catholic and I am a failure and that I hate God.
My sister has called me selfish for not going Church on Christimas.
I feel like a black sheep in the family but I strongly believe in my values and going to Church isn't one of them.
I will only ever set foot in a Church if necessary, i.e. weddings, funerals, baptisms.
When the time comes for me to get married I don't know if I can bring myself to have it at a Church.
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
New Jersey: Members of the Walking With Christ sect have pleaded not guilty of causing the death of an eight year-old girl after forcing the child to fast in order to achieve holiness. Pastor Emanyel Kris told followers that even to swallow one's own saliva was a "sin" and a violation of his fasting edict. The victim's mother is charged with aggravated manslaughter. Pastor Kris has not been charged with anything.
Nevada: Father Kevin McAuliffe confesses to stealing $650K to support his gambling habit.
Texas: Pastor Francisco Antonio Hernandez arrested for molesting at least four girls, including three who were sisters.
Tennessee: Pastor Rickey Alan Reed arrested for burglarizing the home of a parishioner.
Oklahoma: Pastor Joe Cheater arrested for molestation and child rape of four girls.
New York: Reverend Victor Rosa arrested for fraudulently cashing pension checks of long-deceased neighbor.
New York: Father Brady arrested on two counts of child molestation.
Kansas: Pastor Birger Draget charged with 21 counts of sex crimes against a child.
Texas: Mistress of Pastor Tracy Burleson convicted in his plot to pay his son to murder his wife.
Georgia: Pastor Joshua Drucker convicted on two counts of murder.
Ontario: Father Jose Silva resigns after sexual assault charges.
London: Father Laurence Soper has gone on the lam after being accused of multiple counts of child abuse. Soper is 80.
Belgium: Brussels Archdiocese promises to compensate 500 victims of molestation by church workers. At least 13 suicides are thought to have resulted from the attacks.
North Carolina: Pastor John Jackson charged with additional felony counts of embezzling from his church. Last month Jackson was charged with using church funds to insure his five Cadillacs.
Ontario: Pastor Emmanual Animodi charged with sexual assault on a parishioner.
Alabama: Pastor James Hunter and his wife charged with dealing morphine.
New York: Rabbi Saul Kassin let off with two years probation in massive $50M international bank fraud scheme.
New Mexico: Pastor Steven Perez charged with child molestation.
California: Father William Myers placed on leave after following a minor boy into the changing room at a department store.
Texas: Pastor Theodore Baines sued by congregation for threatening them, abusing alcohol, and making lewd comments to young female parishioners.
Minnesota: Pastor David Radtke charged with molesting a foreign exchange student staying in his home.
Missouri: Diocese of Kansas City sued for covering up the actions of Father Shawn Ratigan, who is accused of taking photos of a nude underage girl.
California: Pastor Carlton Hammonds sentenced to four years in prison for child molestation.
Iowa: Pastor Patrick Eduoard charged with multiple counts of sexual abuse.
New York: Molestation trial of Pastor Joe Flowers delayed due to revelation of a second victim.
Ontario: Father Linus Bastien charged with two counts of indecent assault.
Illinois: Imprisoned felon sues the Pope for childhood sexual abuse by his priest.
Alabama: Pastor Barry Albert Cook charged with sexual abuse and torture of a child.
South Carolina: Pastor Jonathan Roberts charged with felonious theft of church money.
New York: Father Thomas Kreiser charged with using $25K in church donations for online gambling.
Wisconsin: Pastor Philip Caminiti charged with eight felony counts of child abuse for beating children as young as two months old.
Oklahoma: Pastor Vincent Brookfield charged with seven felony counts of molesting a seven year-old girl.
North Carolina: Pastor Paul Burke Johnson charged with four counts of sexual battery on a mentally impaired woman.
Iowa: Pastor Patrick Edouard charged with raping three women in his congregation.
Utah: Pastor Aaron Witcher sentenced to five years to life in prison on two counts of rape of a minor.
Pennsylvania: Father Ralph Johnson sentenced to four years in prison for child molestation. Johnson is 84.
New York: Rabbi Saul Kassin confesses to multimillion dollar money laundering scheme involving sales of human organs and counterfeit handbags.
Florida: Teacher at private Christian school charged with beating a 12 year-old boy unconscious with a broomstick.
Wisconsin: Father Joseph Gibbs charged with fondling a teenage girl. Gibbs allegedly threatened to sue the girl's family if she told.
Illinois: Imprisoned child molester Father Donald McGuire reveals evidence that his parish knew of his crimes and did nothing.
Oregon: In one of the largest settlements ever paid by a religious group, Northwest's Jesuits have agreed to pay $166M to nearly 500 victims of sexual abuse by priests. Most of the victims are Native Americans abused as children at Jesuit parish schools across the Pacific northwest and in Alaska. The settlement, which will largely be paid by an insurance company, is part of a bankruptcy reorganization plan.
Ontario: Bishop Raymond Lahey has pleaded guilty to possession and importation of child pornography. Lahey was arrested at the Ottawa airport after nervously denying that he possessed a laptop. Noting that his passport contained stamps from countries infamous for child pornography, customs agents confiscated a computer and a memory stick found to contain over 500 images of young boys being "enslaved and degraded." In 2009, Lahey had brokered a $15M settlement from his diocese to victims of molestation by priests, saying at the time, "I want to formally apologize to every victim and to their families for the sexual abuse that was inflicted upon those young people who were entitled instead to the trust and protection of priests of the church."
Wisconsin: Pastor David E. Radtke charged with sexual assault on a 16 year-old student.
Georgia: Pastor David Pope charged with child molestation.
Wisconsin: Father Michael Nowak charged with making obscene phone calls to underage girls.
Kentucky: Pastor Jeremy Caraway charged with child rape.
Arizona: Two Mormon bishops will not be charged for failing to report a church member who confessed to child molestation.
Missouri: Father Shawn Ratigan pleads not guilty to taking pornographic photos of young girls.
Nevada: Pastor Raymond Mosely charged with compelling a four year-old to touch his genitals.
Michigan: Pastor Christopher Settlemoir sentenced to 15 years in prison for sexual assault on a minor.
Delaware: Father James O'Neill has confessed to molesting a pre-teen boy hundreds of times over several years. The victim, now 43, has settled a lawsuit with the Diocese of Wilmington.
West Virginia: Pastor Matthew Jarrell kills himself in jail after being charged with rape.
New York: The ultra-Orthodox Agudath Israel of America has ruled that rabbis must first be consulted before notifying police about child molestation.
Louisiana: Youth Pastor Angelo Golatt indicted on multiple counts of molesting children as young as nine years old.
South Carolina: Pastor Charles Ledford arrested for embezzling over $250K from his church.
Louisiana: Pastor Elijah Mealancon busted for stealing $100K from an elderly parishioner.
New Brunswick: Father Charles Jean Picot found guilty of child molestation.
Georgia: Pastor Kenneth Terrell pleads guilty to embezzling $200K from his church. Terrell has been arrested 27 times in the past.
Missouri: Father Martin T. Sigillito charged in $52M Ponzi scam.
California: Father Antonio Cortes sentenced for child molestation.
New York: Rabbi Gavriel Bidany found guilty of groping the genitals of a sleeping female on a flight from Tel Aviv to JFK.
North Carolina: Pastor John Jackson arrested for using church money to insure his five Cadillacs.
Nevada: Pastor Raymond Mosley charged with molesting a four year-old girl.
Britain: Father Wojciech Jasinski charged with exhuming the corpse of a child saint in order to move the bones closer to his mother's grave. Happy Mother's Day!
Wisconsin: Pastor Travis Gandy convicted of child molestation and possession of child porn.
Arizona: Christian school teacher Joshua Carroll charged with child molestation.
Arkansas: Pastor Joel Church pleads guilty to possession of child pornography.
Wisconsin: Pastor Leon Piepenbrink charged with embezzling $68K from his church.
Missouri: White supremacist Pastor Robert Joos loses federal appeal on weapons possession conviction.
Virginia: Pastor Steve Dean charged with child molestation.
Netherlands: A Dutch Catholic priest identified as Father Van B. has admitted to serving on the board of directors of a group lobbying for the legalization of pedophilia. The priest's superior says that he was aware of Father Van B's involvement with the group. The church is said to be investigating.
Anyone remember Satan/the Devil? crazy how everything good is bad and bad is good today. Satan is responsible for this not God. These people that sexually abuse children need to get the Death Penalty. I think that would help solve the problem......
as he created everything, before that God created satan(lucifer) and the other angels. if one believes that God is omnipresent and omnipotent then surely he must have foreseen Lucifer's casting from heaven and most definately would have seen the reasons for it. in fact he wouldve created Lucifer, giving him not only all his goodness but also all his faults. why would God create such an angel knowing what was to come? is satan just the scapegoat for all bad behaviour? and if so, is this because God does no bad? where is personal responsibility in all this? for me just as i give zero credence to the God told me to do it excuse, i equally dismiss the binary, the devil made me do it. it is MANKIND that does or doesnt do, no one else. it is OURSELVES we struggle with, not God and certainly not satan. i know there are people who need to attribute their behaviours to mythical beings.. i am not one of them. and i have no time for people who do.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
This has been big news here in Australia this week, a Royal Commission has been set up to investigate the abuse.
What has made my blood boil this week is listening to Cardinal George Pell deny the abuse, and others blaming the victims, and God.
I often have heated arguments with my religious mother who calls me evil for not going to Church.
She has told me I am not a Catholic and I am a failure and that I hate God.
My sister has called me selfish for not going Church on Christimas.
I feel like a black sheep in the family but I strongly believe in my values and going to Church isn't one of them.
I will only ever set foot in a Church if necessary, i.e. weddings, funerals, baptisms.
When the time comes for me to get married I don't know if I can bring myself to have it at a Church.
this is the thing with the catholic church ... they can't let people be ... they use fear, intimidation and bullying to try and make you conform ... where is the acceptance and tolerance!? ... there is none from an organization that refuses to accept gay marriage amongst other things ... it is fundamentally intolerant ...
this is the thing with the catholic church ... they can't let people be ... they use fear, intimidation and bullying to try and make you conform ... where is the acceptance and tolerance!? ... there is none from an organization that refuses to accept gay marriage amongst other things ... it is fundamentally intolerant ...
I don't know any catholic bullies. I only know human ones.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I'd just like to note (PolarisX take note!) that Florida was only on PoD's lists once.
...And do people still really believe in Satan? :?
And as much as I despise organized religion, the majority of people I have personally met use it to do good. And there are hundreds of thousands of people that do good for every one of those terrible stories PoD listed. Unfortunately, the select few who commit those atrocities give religion a bad name in many cases. Any any ONE case of abuse is too much, so we should be concerned, most definitely.
This has been big news here in Australia this week, a Royal Commission has been set up to investigate the abuse.
What has made my blood boil this week is listening to Cardinal George Pell deny the abuse, and others blaming the victims, and God.
I often have heated arguments with my religious mother who calls me evil for not going to Church.
She has told me I am not a Catholic and I am a failure and that I hate God.
My sister has called me selfish for not going Church on Christimas.
I feel like a black sheep in the family but I strongly believe in my values and going to Church isn't one of them.
I will only ever set foot in a Church if necessary, i.e. weddings, funerals, baptisms.
When the time comes for me to get married I don't know if I can bring myself to have it at a Church.
A dose of understanding all around for you and your family. Sustaining love is what is important
even if some concessions must be made. We got but one life with the souls we call family here,
we come from the same blood, there is meaning in this, great connection. If it is only you who
forgives and concedes, all will be rewarded but your heart will be freed.
I don't know any catholic bullies. I only know human ones.
so ... you don't think the catholic church bullies and intimidates?
my father in law, who grew up on a farm in conservative northern Saskatchewan with his 10 siblings, is a Knight of Columbus. He is pro-marriage equality.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
If I had a club that preached the "word" from some deity that nobody had seen, didn't let women into it, liked to have little boys ring bells and hang around all the time, we'd be black listed and investigated by the government. So what is up with this club?
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
organized religion is not evil; man, who runs organized religion, is fatally flawed. there are pedophiles and cover ups of said pedophiles in all walks of life, but the church gets the brunt of the flack because they are in a position of perceived highest moral authority.
earth is full of mentally ill men/women. some of them happen to be involved in organized religion.
I'll never understand why people equate the church with evil. it's some of the people in the church that deserve that label, not the church itself.
that's the same as painting all Muslims with the terrorist brush.
give me an example. I'm not sure the context in your question.
sorry ... i haven't had time ... i do think it's important and when I get a chance I will ... heading to NY ...
if you want to look up what the catholic church lobbies for as it relates to human rights issues as abortion and same sex marriage ... you will see their influence in gov't policy ... and just read thoughtsarrive's experience with his family ... obviously not all catholics are light that ... besides the sex abuse charges - i feel they are the most aggressive of religions to impose their agenda upon people whether it's through lobbyists or indoctrination ...
This has been big news here in Australia this week, a Royal Commission has been set up to investigate the abuse.
What has made my blood boil this week is listening to Cardinal George Pell deny the abuse, and others blaming the victims, and God.
I often have heated arguments with my religious mother who calls me evil for not going to Church.
She has told me I am not a Catholic and I am a failure and that I hate God.
My sister has called me selfish for not going Church on Christimas.
I feel like a black sheep in the family but I strongly believe in my values and going to Church isn't one of them.
I will only ever set foot in a Church if necessary, i.e. weddings, funerals, baptisms.
When the time comes for me to get married I don't know if I can bring myself to have it at a Church.
A dose of understanding all around for you and your family. Sustaining love is what is important
even if some concessions must be made. We got but one life with the souls we call family here,
we come from the same blood, there is meaning in this, great connection. If it is only you who
forgives and concedes, all will be rewarded but your heart will be freed.
i dont understand this post. TA says his mother calls him evil for not going to church, his sister has called him selfish for the same reason. he has chosen not to enter a church and not because he no longer believes, but for a reason his family cant seem to respect so they verbally abuse him. yet the above post says if it is only him who forgives and concedes all will be rewarded but his heart will be freed? it seems to me that the post is saying that he should suck it up and attend church even though it clearly goes against his principles. can you please explain the underlined sentence cause im sure im not the only one who doesnt know what is being said here.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
This has been big news here in Australia this week, a Royal Commission has been set up to investigate the abuse.
What has made my blood boil this week is listening to Cardinal George Pell deny the abuse, and others blaming the victims, and God.
I often have heated arguments with my religious mother who calls me evil for not going to Church.
She has told me I am not a Catholic and I am a failure and that I hate God.
My sister has called me selfish for not going Church on Christimas.
I feel like a black sheep in the family but I strongly believe in my values and going to Church isn't one of them.
I will only ever set foot in a Church if necessary, i.e. weddings, funerals, baptisms.
When the time comes for me to get married I don't know if I can bring myself to have it at a Church.
A dose of understanding all around for you and your family. Sustaining love is what is important
even if some concessions must be made. We got but one life with the souls we call family here,
we come from the same blood, there is meaning in this, great connection. If it is only you who
forgives and concedes, all will be rewarded but your heart will be freed.
i dont understand this post. TA says his mother calls him evil for not going to church, his sister has called him selfish for the same reason. he has chosen not to enter a church and not because he no longer believes, but for a reason his family cant seem to respect so they verbally abuse him. yet the above post says if it is only him who forgives and concedes all will be rewarded but his heart will be freed? it seems to me that the post is saying that he should suck it up and attend church even though it clearly goes against his principles. can you please explain the underlined sentence cause im sure im not the only one who doesnt know what is being said here.
I understand it. She's saying exactly that, to do what is expected of you to keep the peace. Which is horrible advice. If my family didn't accept me the way I am, the hell with them. I don't waste my time on people like that, blood or not.
Sure, some concessions need to be made in life. Like which movie do we see tonight? Ok, fine, we'll go see Sex and the City, honey. But something that goes against your principles and beliefs? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
And I told my brother so back when he turned born again, and he judged the hell out of all of us who didn't believe like he did. Finally we had to tell him "we love you, but you need to back off". So he and his wife did. Our relationship is way better for it.
Had I just conformed to his wishes, I'd be seething day in and day out. Be yourself. That's all you can be.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I understand it. She's saying exactly that, to do what is expected of you to keep the peace. Which is horrible advice. If my family didn't accept me the way I am, the hell with them. I don't waste my time on people like that, blood or not.
Sure, some concessions need to be made in life. Like which movie do we see tonight? Ok, fine, we'll go see Sex and the City, honey. But something that goes against your principles and beliefs? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
And I told my brother so back when he turned born again, and he judged the hell out of all of us who didn't believe like he did. Finally we had to tell him "we love you, but you need to back off". So he and his wife did. Our relationship is way better for it.
Had I just conformed to his wishes, I'd be seething day in and day out. Be yourself. That's all you can be.
1) Yeah...sacrifice your peace of mind/soul for others? And at what price? Nuh-uh. I'm fortunate to not have been in that position myself, but know others who have been, for various reasons - religion, money, "loyalty".
2) Sex and the City?!? Not even MY cup o'tea, so kudos to you on that concession to your wife
3) "Be yourself. That's all you can be." Amen. (and now I've got a hankering for the Audioslave song)
1) Yeah...sacrifice your peace of mind/soul for others? And at what price? Nuh-uh. I'm fortunate to not have been in that position myself, but know others who have been, for various reasons - religion, money, "loyalty".
2) Sex and the City?!? Not even MY cup o'tea, so kudos to you on that concession to your wife
3) "Be yourself. That's all you can be." Amen. (and now I've got a hankering for the Audioslave song)
I didn't actually go see it in the theatre with her. She went with friends. But I finally, after much harping, agreed to watch it at home. I watched half of it and said "this is awful, I can't watch anymore". And I used to like the show and watch it every week with her. Although, it was after we came home drunk and stoned from wherever we were. Maybe that helped me like it!
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
1) Yeah...sacrifice your peace of mind/soul for others? And at what price? Nuh-uh. I'm fortunate to not have been in that position myself, but know others who have been, for various reasons - religion, money, "loyalty".
2) Sex and the City?!? Not even MY cup o'tea, so kudos to you on that concession to your wife
3) "Be yourself. That's all you can be." Amen. (and now I've got a hankering for the Audioslave song)
I didn't actually go see it in the theatre with her. She went with friends. But I finally, after much harping, agreed to watch it at home. I watched half of it and said "this is awful, I can't watch anymore". And I used to like the show and watch it every week with her. Although, it was after we came home drunk and stoned from wherever we were. Maybe that helped me like it!
you got suckered hugh. :P
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
This has been big news here in Australia this week, a Royal Commission has been set up to investigate the abuse.
What has made my blood boil this week is listening to Cardinal George Pell deny the abuse, and others blaming the victims, and God.
I often have heated arguments with my religious mother who calls me evil for not going to Church.
She has told me I am not a Catholic and I am a failure and that I hate God.
My sister has called me selfish for not going Church on Christimas.
I feel like a black sheep in the family but I strongly believe in my values and going to Church isn't one of them.
I will only ever set foot in a Church if necessary, i.e. weddings, funerals, baptisms.
When the time comes for me to get married I don't know if I can bring myself to have it at a Church.
A dose of understanding all around for you and your family. Sustaining love is what is important
even if some concessions must be made. We got but one life with the souls we call family here,
we come from the same blood, there is meaning in this, great connection. If it is only you who
forgives and concedes, all will be rewarded but your heart will be freed.
i dont understand this post. TA says his mother calls him evil for not going to church, his sister has called him selfish for the same reason. he has chosen not to enter a church and not because he no longer believes, but for a reason his family cant seem to respect so they verbally abuse him. yet the above post says if it is only him who forgives and concedes all will be rewarded but his heart will be freed? it seems to me that the post is saying that he should suck it up and attend church even though it clearly goes against his principles. can you please explain the underlined sentence cause im sure im not the only one who doesnt know what is being said here.
Pandora as Catefrances said, I am not to sure what you meant by the last sentence also.
If you suggest I just go to keep the peace then I disagree with that.
We should not have to live our lives how others want us to.
I have gone on Easter and Christmas to keep the peace so that family lunches on those days are not tense.
I have given up going to keep the peace.
Last time I went I tried not to laugh in church, the priest looked like some mad bad dictator, he kept frowning and saying there are many young ones not singing and praying out loud, he even eye balled me whilst everyone was praying out aloud as I was silent.
Also all the fake Catholics in attendance made me chuckle, I know some of them and outside church they are not the nicest people around, yet they fake it for the hour in church.
No thanks, I'd rather stay home on Sundays and religious days and listen to music, that is my church!
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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What has made my blood boil this week is listening to Cardinal George Pell deny the abuse, and others blaming the victims, and God.
I often have heated arguments with my religious mother who calls me evil for not going to Church.
She has told me I am not a Catholic and I am a failure and that I hate God.
My sister has called me selfish for not going Church on Christimas.
I feel like a black sheep in the family but I strongly believe in my values and going to Church isn't one of them.
I will only ever set foot in a Church if necessary, i.e. weddings, funerals, baptisms.
When the time comes for me to get married I don't know if I can bring myself to have it at a Church.
Nevada: Father Kevin McAuliffe confesses to stealing $650K to support his gambling habit.
Texas: Pastor Francisco Antonio Hernandez arrested for molesting at least four girls, including three who were sisters.
Tennessee: Pastor Rickey Alan Reed arrested for burglarizing the home of a parishioner.
Oklahoma: Pastor Joe Cheater arrested for molestation and child rape of four girls.
New York: Reverend Victor Rosa arrested for fraudulently cashing pension checks of long-deceased neighbor.
New York: Father Brady arrested on two counts of child molestation.
Kansas: Pastor Birger Draget charged with 21 counts of sex crimes against a child.
Texas: Mistress of Pastor Tracy Burleson convicted in his plot to pay his son to murder his wife.
Georgia: Pastor Joshua Drucker convicted on two counts of murder.
Ontario: Father Jose Silva resigns after sexual assault charges.
London: Father Laurence Soper has gone on the lam after being accused of multiple counts of child abuse. Soper is 80.
Belgium: Brussels Archdiocese promises to compensate 500 victims of molestation by church workers. At least 13 suicides are thought to have resulted from the attacks.
North Carolina: Pastor John Jackson charged with additional felony counts of embezzling from his church. Last month Jackson was charged with using church funds to insure his five Cadillacs.
Ontario: Pastor Emmanual Animodi charged with sexual assault on a parishioner.
Alabama: Pastor James Hunter and his wife charged with dealing morphine.
New York: Rabbi Saul Kassin let off with two years probation in massive $50M international bank fraud scheme.
New Mexico: Pastor Steven Perez charged with child molestation.
California: Father William Myers placed on leave after following a minor boy into the changing room at a department store.
Texas: Pastor Theodore Baines sued by congregation for threatening them, abusing alcohol, and making lewd comments to young female parishioners.
Minnesota: Pastor David Radtke charged with molesting a foreign exchange student staying in his home.
Missouri: Diocese of Kansas City sued for covering up the actions of Father Shawn Ratigan, who is accused of taking photos of a nude underage girl.
California: Pastor Carlton Hammonds sentenced to four years in prison for child molestation.
Iowa: Pastor Patrick Eduoard charged with multiple counts of sexual abuse.
New York: Molestation trial of Pastor Joe Flowers delayed due to revelation of a second victim.
Ontario: Father Linus Bastien charged with two counts of indecent assault.
Illinois: Imprisoned felon sues the Pope for childhood sexual abuse by his priest.
Alabama: Pastor Barry Albert Cook charged with sexual abuse and torture of a child.
South Carolina: Pastor Jonathan Roberts charged with felonious theft of church money.
New York: Father Thomas Kreiser charged with using $25K in church donations for online gambling.
Wisconsin: Pastor Philip Caminiti charged with eight felony counts of child abuse for beating children as young as two months old.
Oklahoma: Pastor Vincent Brookfield charged with seven felony counts of molesting a seven year-old girl.
North Carolina: Pastor Paul Burke Johnson charged with four counts of sexual battery on a mentally impaired woman.
Iowa: Pastor Patrick Edouard charged with raping three women in his congregation.
Utah: Pastor Aaron Witcher sentenced to five years to life in prison on two counts of rape of a minor.
Pennsylvania: Father Ralph Johnson sentenced to four years in prison for child molestation. Johnson is 84.
New York: Rabbi Saul Kassin confesses to multimillion dollar money laundering scheme involving sales of human organs and counterfeit handbags.
Florida: Teacher at private Christian school charged with beating a 12 year-old boy unconscious with a broomstick.
Wisconsin: Father Joseph Gibbs charged with fondling a teenage girl. Gibbs allegedly threatened to sue the girl's family if she told.
Illinois: Imprisoned child molester Father Donald McGuire reveals evidence that his parish knew of his crimes and did nothing.
Oregon: In one of the largest settlements ever paid by a religious group, Northwest's Jesuits have agreed to pay $166M to nearly 500 victims of sexual abuse by priests. Most of the victims are Native Americans abused as children at Jesuit parish schools across the Pacific northwest and in Alaska. The settlement, which will largely be paid by an insurance company, is part of a bankruptcy reorganization plan.
Wisconsin: Pastor David E. Radtke charged with sexual assault on a 16 year-old student.
Georgia: Pastor David Pope charged with child molestation.
Wisconsin: Father Michael Nowak charged with making obscene phone calls to underage girls.
Kentucky: Pastor Jeremy Caraway charged with child rape.
Arizona: Two Mormon bishops will not be charged for failing to report a church member who confessed to child molestation.
Missouri: Father Shawn Ratigan pleads not guilty to taking pornographic photos of young girls.
Nevada: Pastor Raymond Mosely charged with compelling a four year-old to touch his genitals.
Michigan: Pastor Christopher Settlemoir sentenced to 15 years in prison for sexual assault on a minor.
Delaware: Father James O'Neill has confessed to molesting a pre-teen boy hundreds of times over several years. The victim, now 43, has settled a lawsuit with the Diocese of Wilmington.
West Virginia: Pastor Matthew Jarrell kills himself in jail after being charged with rape.
New York: The ultra-Orthodox Agudath Israel of America has ruled that rabbis must first be consulted before notifying police about child molestation.
Louisiana: Youth Pastor Angelo Golatt indicted on multiple counts of molesting children as young as nine years old.
South Carolina: Pastor Charles Ledford arrested for embezzling over $250K from his church.
Louisiana: Pastor Elijah Mealancon busted for stealing $100K from an elderly parishioner.
New Brunswick: Father Charles Jean Picot found guilty of child molestation.
Georgia: Pastor Kenneth Terrell pleads guilty to embezzling $200K from his church. Terrell has been arrested 27 times in the past.
Missouri: Father Martin T. Sigillito charged in $52M Ponzi scam.
California: Father Antonio Cortes sentenced for child molestation.
New York: Rabbi Gavriel Bidany found guilty of groping the genitals of a sleeping female on a flight from Tel Aviv to JFK.
North Carolina: Pastor John Jackson arrested for using church money to insure his five Cadillacs.
Nevada: Pastor Raymond Mosley charged with molesting a four year-old girl.
Britain: Father Wojciech Jasinski charged with exhuming the corpse of a child saint in order to move the bones closer to his mother's grave. Happy Mother's Day!
Wisconsin: Pastor Travis Gandy convicted of child molestation and possession of child porn.
Arizona: Christian school teacher Joshua Carroll charged with child molestation.
Arkansas: Pastor Joel Church pleads guilty to possession of child pornography.
Wisconsin: Pastor Leon Piepenbrink charged with embezzling $68K from his church.
Missouri: White supremacist Pastor Robert Joos loses federal appeal on weapons possession conviction.
Virginia: Pastor Steve Dean charged with child molestation.
Netherlands: A Dutch Catholic priest identified as Father Van B. has admitted to serving on the board of directors of a group lobbying for the legalization of pedophilia. The priest's superior says that he was aware of Father Van B's involvement with the group. The church is said to be investigating.
So yeah. I do believe that the majority of religious people are evil to the core.
Not all.
Just most.
as he created everything, before that God created satan(lucifer) and the other angels. if one believes that God is omnipresent and omnipotent then surely he must have foreseen Lucifer's casting from heaven and most definately would have seen the reasons for it. in fact he wouldve created Lucifer, giving him not only all his goodness but also all his faults. why would God create such an angel knowing what was to come? is satan just the scapegoat for all bad behaviour? and if so, is this because God does no bad? where is personal responsibility in all this? for me just as i give zero credence to the God told me to do it excuse, i equally dismiss the binary, the devil made me do it. it is MANKIND that does or doesnt do, no one else. it is OURSELVES we struggle with, not God and certainly not satan. i know there are people who need to attribute their behaviours to mythical beings.. i am not one of them. and i have no time for people who do.
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you wont have to... afterall God is everywhere is he not?
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I know, but it's the traditional side of it also. Especially in my culture.
this is the thing with the catholic church ... they can't let people be ... they use fear, intimidation and bullying to try and make you conform ... where is the acceptance and tolerance!? ... there is none from an organization that refuses to accept gay marriage amongst other things ... it is fundamentally intolerant ...
I don't know any catholic bullies. I only know human ones.
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you and your overdramatic posts with sweeping generalizations. come on.
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so ... you don't think the catholic church bullies and intimidates?
...And do people still really believe in Satan? :?
And as much as I despise organized religion, the majority of people I have personally met use it to do good. And there are hundreds of thousands of people that do good for every one of those terrible stories PoD listed. Unfortunately, the select few who commit those atrocities give religion a bad name in many cases. Any any ONE case of abuse is too much, so we should be concerned, most definitely.
...Satan though, really? :fp:
even if some concessions must be made. We got but one life with the souls we call family here,
we come from the same blood, there is meaning in this, great connection. If it is only you who
forgives and concedes, all will be rewarded but your heart will be freed.
give me an example. I'm not sure the context in your question.
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my father in law, who grew up on a farm in conservative northern Saskatchewan with his 10 siblings, is a Knight of Columbus. He is pro-marriage equality.
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The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
now now, I said "most." not "all."
(although I'll own "overdramatic.")
sorry ... i haven't had time ... i do think it's important and when I get a chance I will ... heading to NY ...
if you want to look up what the catholic church lobbies for as it relates to human rights issues as abortion and same sex marriage ... you will see their influence in gov't policy ... and just read thoughtsarrive's experience with his family ... obviously not all catholics are light that ... besides the sex abuse charges - i feel they are the most aggressive of religions to impose their agenda upon people whether it's through lobbyists or indoctrination ...
i dont understand this post. TA says his mother calls him evil for not going to church, his sister has called him selfish for the same reason. he has chosen not to enter a church and not because he no longer believes, but for a reason his family cant seem to respect so they verbally abuse him. yet the above post says if it is only him who forgives and concedes all will be rewarded but his heart will be freed? it seems to me that the post is saying that he should suck it up and attend church even though it clearly goes against his principles. can you please explain the underlined sentence cause im sure im not the only one who doesnt know what is being said here.
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I understand it. She's saying exactly that, to do what is expected of you to keep the peace. Which is horrible advice. If my family didn't accept me the way I am, the hell with them. I don't waste my time on people like that, blood or not.
Sure, some concessions need to be made in life. Like which movie do we see tonight? Ok, fine, we'll go see Sex and the City, honey. But something that goes against your principles and beliefs? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
And I told my brother so back when he turned born again, and he judged the hell out of all of us who didn't believe like he did. Finally we had to tell him "we love you, but you need to back off". So he and his wife did. Our relationship is way better for it.
Had I just conformed to his wishes, I'd be seething day in and day out. Be yourself. That's all you can be.
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even saying "most" is a complete overgeneralization. it's just plain untrue.
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2) Sex and the City?!? Not even MY cup o'tea, so kudos to you on that concession to your wife
3) "Be yourself. That's all you can be." Amen. (and now I've got a hankering for the Audioslave song)
I didn't actually go see it in the theatre with her. She went with friends. But I finally, after much harping, agreed to watch it at home. I watched half of it and said "this is awful, I can't watch anymore". And I used to like the show and watch it every week with her. Although, it was after we came home drunk and stoned from wherever we were. Maybe that helped me like it!
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you got suckered hugh. :P
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Pandora as Catefrances said, I am not to sure what you meant by the last sentence also.
If you suggest I just go to keep the peace then I disagree with that.
We should not have to live our lives how others want us to.
I have gone on Easter and Christmas to keep the peace so that family lunches on those days are not tense.
I have given up going to keep the peace.
Last time I went I tried not to laugh in church, the priest looked like some mad bad dictator, he kept frowning and saying there are many young ones not singing and praying out loud, he even eye balled me whilst everyone was praying out aloud as I was silent.
Also all the fake Catholics in attendance made me chuckle, I know some of them and outside church they are not the nicest people around, yet they fake it for the hour in church.
No thanks, I'd rather stay home on Sundays and religious days and listen to music, that is my church!
http://www.theage.com.au/national/churc ... 29evv.html
At least some sense....
http://www.theage.com.au/national/pell- ... 29e28.html
He says the victims are trouble makers and making it all up.
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