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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    butterjam wrote:
    But how about the innocent civilians killed by our government in drone attacks? Do their lives matter less? Where is the outrage over their deaths?

    Right here... you are not alone.


    just collateral damage. ;) :roll:
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  • butterjam wrote:
    But how about the innocent civilians killed by our government in drone attacks? Do their lives matter less? Where is the outrage over their deaths?

    Right here... you are not alone.


    just collateral damage. ;) :roll:

    Maybe if we... didn't set up embassies everywhere....

    Maybe this guy would still be alive.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Maybe if we... didn't set up embassies everywhere....

    Maybe this guy would still be alive.

    thats just crazy talk. the thought that the US could not be a presence in a country... ;)8-) besides they arent the only country that has embasssies everywhere. and so far as i can see hardly a provocation for murder.
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  • Maybe if we... didn't set up embassies everywhere....

    Maybe this guy would still be alive.

    thats just crazy talk. the thought that the US could not be a presence in a country... ;)8-) besides they arent the only country that has embasssies everywhere. and so far as i can see hardly a provocation for murder.

    Probably because they aren't drone bombing the middle east.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Maybe if we... didn't set up embassies everywhere....

    Maybe this guy would still be alive.

    thats just crazy talk. the thought that the US could not be a presence in a country... ;)8-) besides they arent the only country that has embasssies everywhere. and so far as i can see hardly a provocation for murder.

    Probably because they aren't drone bombing the middle east.

    well yes theres that. but they do have support in those endeavours and i think sometimes were so focussed on the US being the big bad we forget that. i patiently wait for the day when the US 'intervenes' in a country and the rest of us say,yeah, you know what? youre on your own with that. perhaps if we stop enabling them theyll hesistate enough to see the error of their ways.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
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    Godfather. wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:

    all of this friggin crap over a movie....a fiction movie ? ...nuke the fuckin place !

    Godfather.

    GF....I share your disgust over this behavior over a stupid youtube movie that hardly anyone has seen...I don't get it either...

    a bunch of fuckheads all around...the pastor that stokes the flames and the idiots who feel then need to kill others over a movie...

    not sure about nuking the place...but we sure could do some damage if needed...I say we pack up our monetary aid and get the f out of there....

    I also agree, the nuke idea was just a comment made out of anger but yea we should leave.

    Godfather.
    I also agree that we should get the fuck out of the entire region and leave them to sink or swim (I'm thinking sink, given the religious problem and the thing about women, but you never know I guess). Necessary defense of the west should be the oy focus when it comes to these nut jobs. Of course many people there are nice nirmal folks, but unfortunately it is the nutjobs who generally manage to run the show (and appareny, ablut 30% of the population inbthe middle eastnwould be considered extreme in their views. That's a lot). No one there, moderate or extremist, really seems to want us there (at least if they do, they certainly aren't willing or able to have their voices heard, however touching that sorry America sign is, and therefore have no impact on the situation), so we should leave now. But everyone should start saving for an electric car. :? Not sure why it would occur to anyone to attack or bomb them because of what a few extremist citizens did; that seems kind of evil and more something GW would have done.
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  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,319
    Kat wrote:
    Was closed for review.

    As this event is being investigated, more information will probably come out. Be careful about being harsh with each other while discussing and with painting people with a single brush. Everything isn't known yet.


    i'll forward this to Mr. Romney
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  • Moonpig
    Moonpig Posts: 659
    Wow some pretty hateful comments.

    So I just want to make sure I get this straight, because I am massivly confused. So a mentally unstable person can purchase any amount of assualt weapons and ammunition, then go and shoot up a school and many of you will defend lax gun laws and go with the opinion of; guns are going nowhere, it's in our constitution, it's to keep the government in check, guns dont kill people blah blah blah

    But some people who happen to be Muslim attack Americans in another country and it's; pull all aide, nuke 'em, and the like.

    So if a white male christian American goes on a shooting spree - well that happens, dont take my guns.
    Brown islamic male goes on a shooting spree - they all deserve to die, they're all nuts.
    What if a white islamic American male went on a shooting spree in America, taking advantage of the lax gun laws - now that would be a debate.

    It's this logic that I have to say I really don't understand and have commented on many times, can someone please enlighten me??
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Moonpig wrote:
    Wow some pretty hateful comments.

    So I just want to make sure I get this straight, because I am massivly confused. So a mentally unstable person can purchase any amount of assualt weapons and ammunition, then go and shoot up a school and many of you will defend lax gun laws and go with the opinion of; guns are going nowhere, it's in our constitution, it's to keep the government in check, guns dont kill people blah blah blah

    But some people who happen to be Muslim attack Americans in another country and it's; pull all aide, nuke 'em, and the like.

    So if a white male christian American goes on a shooting spree - well that happens, dont take my guns.
    Brown islamic male goes on a shooting spree - they all deserve to die, they're all nuts.
    What if a white islamic American male went on a shooting spree in America, taking advantage of the lax gun laws - now that would be a debate.

    It's this logic that I have to say I really don't understand and have commented on many times, can someone please enlighten me??
    you're comparing this to gun laws ??? when was the last time we've seen Americans attacking any embassy's over gun debates.....this mess in not about gun laws,stop making excusess for the muslim radicals that are acting like animals....check this out..

    enough said.....


    SANAA, Yemen – Protesters angered by a film they consider blasphemous to Islam have stormed the U.S. Embassy compound in Yemen's capital, Sanaa, in the most recent attack on U.S. diplomatic posts in the Middle East.

    The Associated Press reports the protesters reached the embassy's grounds but did not enter the building housing the offices. Once inside the embassy, the mob tore down the U.S. flag and burned it. Before storming the compound, the demonstrators removed the embassy's sign and set tires on fire.

    It was similar to an attack on the U.S. Embassy in the Egyptian capital of Cairo on Tuesday night. A mob of Libyans also attacked the U.S. consulate in the eastern city of Benghazi on Tuesday, killing American Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

    Warning shots and tear gas were fired on Egyptian protesters who were clashing with police near the U.S. Embassy in the capital Cairo for the third day in a row.

    The violence has raised worries that further protests could break out around the Muslim world as anger spreads over the movie.

    Yemeni security forces who rushed to the scene fired in the air and used tear gas to disperse the demonstrators and were eventually able to drive them out of the compound. It was not immediately clear whether anyone was inside the embassy at the time of the attack.

    The Embassy of the Republic of Yemen in Washington, D.C. said in a statement obtained by Fox News the government of Yemen "strongly condemns" the attack on the U.S. compound, but says the situation is under control.

    "The government of Yemen will honor international obligations to ensure the safety of diplomats and will step up security presence around all foreign missions," the statement read.

    Pentagon officials tell Fox News that Pentagon and U.S. Navy officials are monitoring the situation in Yemen, but so far have received no request for military assistance there following the Embassy breach.

    Yemen is home to Al Qaeda's most active branch and the United States is the main foreign supporter of the Yemeni government's counterterrorism campaign. The government on Tuesday announced that Al Qaeda's No. 2 leader in Yemen was killed in an apparent U.S. airstrike, a major blow to the terror network.

    The movie, "Innocence of Muslims," came to attention in Egypt after its trailer was dubbed into Arabic and posted on YouTube. The video-sharing website blocked access to it Wednesday. The trailer depicts Muhammad as a fraud, a womanizer and a madman in an overtly ridiculing way, showing him having sex and calling for massacres.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09/13 ... z26LelyTlS

    Godfather.
  • Moonpig
    Moonpig Posts: 659
    Godfather. wrote:
    Moonpig wrote:
    Wow some pretty hateful comments.

    So I just want to make sure I get this straight, because I am massivly confused. So a mentally unstable person can purchase any amount of assualt weapons and ammunition, then go and shoot up a school and many of you will defend lax gun laws and go with the opinion of; guns are going nowhere, it's in our constitution, it's to keep the government in check, guns dont kill people blah blah blah

    But some people who happen to be Muslim attack Americans in another country and it's; pull all aide, nuke 'em, and the like.

    So if a white male christian American goes on a shooting spree - well that happens, dont take my guns.
    Brown islamic male goes on a shooting spree - they all deserve to die, they're all nuts.
    What if a white islamic American male went on a shooting spree in America, taking advantage of the lax gun laws - now that would be a debate.

    It's this logic that I have to say I really don't understand and have commented on many times, can someone please enlighten me??
    you're comparing this to gun laws ??? when was the last time we've seen Americans attacking any embassy's over gun debates.....this mess in not about gun laws,stop making excusess for the muslim radicals that are acting like animals....check this out..

    enough said.....


    SANAA, Yemen – Protesters angered by a film they consider blasphemous to Islam have stormed the U.S. Embassy compound in Yemen's capital, Sanaa, in the most recent attack on U.S. diplomatic posts in the Middle East.

    The Associated Press reports the protesters reached the embassy's grounds but did not enter the building housing the offices. Once inside the embassy, the mob tore down the U.S. flag and burned it. Before storming the compound, the demonstrators removed the embassy's sign and set tires on fire.

    It was similar to an attack on the U.S. Embassy in the Egyptian capital of Cairo on Tuesday night. A mob of Libyans also attacked the U.S. consulate in the eastern city of Benghazi on Tuesday, killing American Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

    Warning shots and tear gas were fired on Egyptian protesters who were clashing with police near the U.S. Embassy in the capital Cairo for the third day in a row.

    The violence has raised worries that further protests could break out around the Muslim world as anger spreads over the movie.

    Yemeni security forces who rushed to the scene fired in the air and used tear gas to disperse the demonstrators and were eventually able to drive them out of the compound. It was not immediately clear whether anyone was inside the embassy at the time of the attack.

    The Embassy of the Republic of Yemen in Washington, D.C. said in a statement obtained by Fox News the government of Yemen "strongly condemns" the attack on the U.S. compound, but says the situation is under control.

    "The government of Yemen will honor international obligations to ensure the safety of diplomats and will step up security presence around all foreign missions," the statement read.

    Pentagon officials tell Fox News that Pentagon and U.S. Navy officials are monitoring the situation in Yemen, but so far have received no request for military assistance there following the Embassy breach.

    Yemen is home to Al Qaeda's most active branch and the United States is the main foreign supporter of the Yemeni government's counterterrorism campaign. The government on Tuesday announced that Al Qaeda's No. 2 leader in Yemen was killed in an apparent U.S. airstrike, a major blow to the terror network.

    The movie, "Innocence of Muslims," came to attention in Egypt after its trailer was dubbed into Arabic and posted on YouTube. The video-sharing website blocked access to it Wednesday. The trailer depicts Muhammad as a fraud, a womanizer and a madman in an overtly ridiculing way, showing him having sex and calling for massacres.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09/13 ... z26LelyTlS

    Godfather.

    Relax man, I'm asking a simple question. I'm comparing outrage to apathy.

    You do realise that these are idiots who happen to be Muslim right?? not the other way around. Like when nutjobs who happen to be Christian blow up abortion clinics - they don't blow them up because they are muslim, it is because they are nut jobs.

    You seem so quick to generalise a whole group / religion, hundreds of millions of people - seems like a pretty stupid thing to do.

    You do understand Godfather that these people do not represent a nation, much less a religion, like red necks don't represent Americans as a whole, or christianity for that matter?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    your right this whole thing has me pretty pissed and I'm very tired of hearing about these "radical muslims" starting shit all over the world and even coming here and trying to change our laws and customs to suit their needs...I'm just friggin feed up with it, it would be nice if they all just packed it up and left our country.

    we need to stop sending support and money to the countries that hide and defend this nut jobs.


    Godfather.

    p.s.
    Rednecks and Christains fought in the civil war and every war after that and they don't attack embassy's over a friggin movie...mybe you should find out what a Redneck really is before you generalize a agroup of Americans :lol:
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    where did the term Redneck come from ?

    The term comes from the color of the scarves that union coal miners wore in the late 1800's and early 1900's. Back then, it was a positive status symbol to wear a red scarf - that you were in the worker's union. Since most worker's unions were in the south, the term became generalized to refer to states and it's people as union (worker's union, not Union/Confederate) or non-union. Slowly the general population forgot why the union workers wore red scarves, but continued to call them "rednecks".


    hard working people ?? :o

    Godfather.
  • Moonpig
    Moonpig Posts: 659
    Godfather. wrote:
    your right this whole thing has me pretty pissed and I'm very tired of hearing about these "radical muslims" starting shit all over the world and even coming here and trying to change our laws and customs to suit their needs...I'm just friggin feed up with it, it would be nice if they all just packed it up and left our country.

    we need to stop sending support and money to the countries that hide and defend this nut jobs.


    Godfather.

    p.s.
    Rednecks and Christains fought in the civil war and every war after that and they don't attack embassy's over a friggin movie...mybe you should find out what a Redneck really is before you generalize a agroup of Americans :lol:

    Im pretty sure you have just missed my entire point, but oh well.

    Again, it is not Muslims that are doing this, it is people who happen to be muslim - there is a difference.

    You do realise there are millions of muslims in america who were born there right?? Who didn't "come here".

    Who's trying to change your laws? You seem a little paranoid, if you dont mind me saying.

    I didnt generalise americans, in fact if you re read the post you will see I was trying to do the exact opposite, but like I said, I think you missed the whole point.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    This is so messed up on multiple levels.

    Did innocent people die because we have freedom of speech?
    Did our country apologize for someone exercising theirs?

    Everyone is free to hate whom they please,
    if only that could stay in words alone.

    Drop the rocks, pick up the camera and speak not kill
    it's called civilized.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Moonpig wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    your right this whole thing has me pretty pissed and I'm very tired of hearing about these "radical muslims" starting shit all over the world and even coming here and trying to change our laws and customs to suit their needs...I'm just friggin feed up with it, it would be nice if they all just packed it up and left our country.

    we need to stop sending support and money to the countries that hide and defend this nut jobs.


    Godfather.

    p.s.
    Rednecks and Christains fought in the civil war and every war after that and they don't attack embassy's over a friggin movie...mybe you should find out what a Redneck really is before you generalize a agroup of Americans :lol:

    Im pretty sure you have just missed my entire point, but oh well.

    Again, it is not Muslims that are doing this, it is people who happen to be muslim - there is a difference.

    You do realise there are millions of muslims in america who were born there right?? Who didn't "come here".

    Who's trying to change your laws? You seem a little paranoid, if you dont mind me saying.

    I didnt generalise americans, in fact if you re read the post you will see I was trying to do the exact opposite, but like I said, I think you missed the whole point.

    no man I get your point but every time we hear about muslims it's stuff like this.
    and the Redneck thing I was just having fun with :D
    Godfather.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    innocent people die all the time... sometimes it has nothing to do with freedom of speech and everything to do with disrespect.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    innocent people die all the time... sometimes it has nothing to do with freedom of speech and everything to do with disrespect.


    you'll have give me that one on laymens terms Cate :lol:

    Godfather
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Godfather. wrote:
    no man I get your point but every time we hear about muslims it's stuff like this.
    and the Redneck thing I was just having fun with :D
    Godfather.


    you know what? i am surrounded by muslims of varying nationalities in my everyday life.. so when i hear about them, but most importantly interact with them, it is as people living their lives as i am... as we all are. sure there are those islamic fundamentalists who react violently much as there are christian fundamentalists who seek to control my person(and that of others) through reproductive restrictions and imposing their religious influence on the secular society in which i live in.
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  • catefrances
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    Godfather. wrote:
    innocent people die all the time... sometimes it has nothing to do with freedom of speech and everything to do with disrespect.


    you'll have give me that one on laymens terms Cate :lol:

    Godfather


    its as simple as i can make it godfather.
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