U.S. embassy in Cairo apologizes

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Turn the other cheek...get slapped again.

Leave and nothing gets slapped.

Now that is something that makes sense. And take all aid with you.

That I would get behind. Everyone should just get the fuck out and leave them to themselves (aside from counter-terrorism activity, obviously).

even flow - question mark

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/09/18/on ... -ourselves

PJ_Soul

Oh. My. God. I find this story very depressing. I hope this man and his family are okay and that cooler heads prevail.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/w ... lamic-film

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul wrote:

Oh. My. God. I find this story very depressing. I hope this man and his family are okay and that cooler heads prevail.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/w ... lamic-film

Just crazy.

Godfather.

PJ_Soul wrote:

Oh. My. God. I find this story very depressing. I hope this man and his family are okay and that cooler heads prevail.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/w ... lamic-film

sounds like a very UN-civilized country,must be scary when you are taken to jail for suspissions and then draged out of jail by a mob and no protection from the police is given.

Godfather.

cincybearcat

Well directed anger...

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/20/world/mea ... ?hpt=hp_t3

blackredyellow

cincybearcat wrote:

Well directed anger...

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/20/world/mea ... ?hpt=hp_t3

He told one of the girls to cover up, the report said.

"She responded by telling me to cover my eyes, which was very insulting to me," Beheshti said. So he asked her a second time to cover up and also to put a lid on what he felt was verbal abuse.

And here lies the problem with this misogynistic culture. Telling random women on the street how to dress apparently isn't insulting, but them telling you to mind your business is "verbal abuse".

cincybearcat

blackredyellow wrote:

And here lies the problem with this misogynistic culture. Telling random women on the street how to dress apparently isn't insulting, but them telling you to mind your business is "verbal abuse".

Not to mention the real reason behind them having to be covered up, so the men don't act like animals.

It's funny though, the same "discussion" probably happens many times in the US, but it's because you can see nipple or panties or the fact that they aren't wearing panties...not because you can see their ankle, shoulder, or forehead!

whygohome

cincybearcat wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

And here lies the problem with this misogynistic culture. Telling random women on the street how to dress apparently isn't insulting, but them telling you to mind your business is "verbal abuse".

Not to mention the real reason behind them having to be covered up, so the men don't act like animals.

It's funny though, the same "discussion" probably happens many times in the US, but it's because you can see nipple or panties or the fact that they aren't wearing panties...not because you can see their ankle, shoulder, or forehead!

Women better start wearing these socks again!!!

Godfather.

whole different culture over there...not our business, at least not untell they come over here and force their colture on us but untell then "not our business"

Godfather.

whygohome

Interesting. Good for them.

http://news.yahoo.com/libyans-hold-gian ... 21353.html

BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) — Around 30,000 Libyans marched through the eastern city of Benghazi on Friday in an unprecedented protest to demand the disbanding of powerful militias in the wake of last week's attack that killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.

The attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, in which at least one militia is suspected of participating, has sparked a backlash among many Libyans against the multiple armed factions that have run rampant for months in cities around the country. The militias have become more powerful than the regular security forces, and successive governments since last year's fall of Moammar Gadhafi have been unable to rein them in.

The militias, which are the legacy of the "revolutionary brigades" that fought Gadhafi in the civil war, have taken on roles as security, guarding state facilities and neighborhoods, but they also are accused of acting like gangs, detaining people, intimidating critics and clashing in the streets.

Friday's march targeted in particular Ansar al-Shariah, a militia of Islamic extremists who officials and witnesses say participated in the consulate attack. The group is also accused of attacking Muslims who don't follow its harsh interpretation of Islam.

"No, no, to militias," the giant crowd chanted as it marched along a lake in the center of Benghazi, filling a broad boulevard. They carried banners and signs demanding that militias disband and that the government build up police to take their place in keeping security. "Benghazi is in a trap," signs read. "Where is the army, where is the police?"

Other signs mourned the killing of U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens, reading, "The ambassador was Libya's friend" and "Libya lost a friend."

"Benghazi has been thrown wide open, it's full of chaos, looting and crime," said Ihsan Abdel-Baqi, a woman in her 50s who joined the march. "We want our dignity back. We are not afraid of anything."

The giant crowd poured into a square in front of the main camp of Ansar al-Shariah in the city, unfurling a long Libyan flag and chanting, "With our lives and souls, we redeem you, Benghazi." Military helicopters and fighter jets flew overhead, and police mingled in the crowd.

Several thousand Ansar al-Shariah supporters lined up in front of the camp in the face of the crowd, waving black and white banners. But there was no immediate friction between the two sides.

The militias first arose when Benghazi and the rest of the east rose up against Gadhafi's rule early last year. Residents formed local "brigades" that took up arms and fought regime forces. Over the civil war that followed such militias formed around the country.

Since Gadhafi's fall and death around a year ago, the militias have remained in place and have grown stronger, boasting arsenals of automatic weapons, rocket-propelled grenades and pick-up trucks with heavy machine guns. Many have no particular ideological bent, but some are strongly Islamist.

Their strength was on display in the Sept. 11 attack on the consulate. Heavily armed gunmen believed to be militiamen mixed in with a crowd of Libyans protesting an anti-Islam film outside the mission, Libyan officials say. Libyan security forces at the scene withdrew because they were heavily outnumbered and outgunned.

The government has been unable to convince militias to disband or integrate into the regular army or security forces, which remain underfunded and weak. Many say authorities have inadvertently fueled the growth with a program that pays militiamen to join a state-sponsored council that does little to bring them under government control.

dignin

whygohome wrote:

Interesting. Good for them.

http://news.yahoo.com/libyans-hold-gian ... 21353.html

BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) — Around 30,000 Libyans marched through the eastern city of Benghazi on Friday in an unprecedented protest to demand the disbanding of powerful militias in the wake of last week's attack that killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.

The attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, in which at least one militia is suspected of participating, has sparked a backlash among many Libyans against the multiple armed factions that have run rampant for months in cities around the country. The militias have become more powerful than the regular security forces, and successive governments since last year's fall of Moammar Gadhafi have been unable to rein them in.

The militias, which are the legacy of the "revolutionary brigades" that fought Gadhafi in the civil war, have taken on roles as security, guarding state facilities and neighborhoods, but they also are accused of acting like gangs, detaining people, intimidating critics and clashing in the streets.

Friday's march targeted in particular Ansar al-Shariah, a militia of Islamic extremists who officials and witnesses say participated in the consulate attack. The group is also accused of attacking Muslims who don't follow its harsh interpretation of Islam.

"No, no, to militias," the giant crowd chanted as it marched along a lake in the center of Benghazi, filling a broad boulevard. They carried banners and signs demanding that militias disband and that the government build up police to take their place in keeping security. "Benghazi is in a trap," signs read. "Where is the army, where is the police?"

Other signs mourned the killing of U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens, reading, "The ambassador was Libya's friend" and "Libya lost a friend."

"Benghazi has been thrown wide open, it's full of chaos, looting and crime," said Ihsan Abdel-Baqi, a woman in her 50s who joined the march. "We want our dignity back. We are not afraid of anything."

The giant crowd poured into a square in front of the main camp of Ansar al-Shariah in the city, unfurling a long Libyan flag and chanting, "With our lives and souls, we redeem you, Benghazi." Military helicopters and fighter jets flew overhead, and police mingled in the crowd.

Several thousand Ansar al-Shariah supporters lined up in front of the camp in the face of the crowd, waving black and white banners. But there was no immediate friction between the two sides.

The militias first arose when Benghazi and the rest of the east rose up against Gadhafi's rule early last year. Residents formed local "brigades" that took up arms and fought regime forces. Over the civil war that followed such militias formed around the country.

Since Gadhafi's fall and death around a year ago, the militias have remained in place and have grown stronger, boasting arsenals of automatic weapons, rocket-propelled grenades and pick-up trucks with heavy machine guns. Many have no particular ideological bent, but some are strongly Islamist.

Their strength was on display in the Sept. 11 attack on the consulate. Heavily armed gunmen believed to be militiamen mixed in with a crowd of Libyans protesting an anti-Islam film outside the mission, Libyan officials say. Libyan security forces at the scene withdrew because they were heavily outnumbered and outgunned.

The government has been unable to convince militias to disband or integrate into the regular army or security forces, which remain underfunded and weak. Many say authorities have inadvertently fueled the growth with a program that pays militiamen to join a state-sponsored council that does little to bring them under government control.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012 ... ghazi.html


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