Did see a drink (though I may have had a couple already!), and noticed that I would have more chance of a conversation with my cat?
**goes off to see if any of her 6 cats aren't hiding away from daughter's noisy party outside/downstairs to have a conversation....... found one! "Hey Rogue... so... what do you think". "Well... looking at all the arguments put forth, I do believe that you should feed me." OK... so that didn't quite work out as anticipated...**
Pandora said:
This on the list to make a person who needs help crack I'm sure...
this the people others rely on to help keep the from cracking ...
no wonder the people with mental issues are losing it
unfrickinbelievable
Pandora said:
Does the person care about your mumbo jumbo?
I know I don't ...
Pandora said:
Semantics again...
I was asked what I propose to do to help those with mental issues
and I came up with a solution of help.
All I hear is a bunch of crap on what to label someone.
now you are just being incredibly disrespectful and rude. you should probably quit.
thank you Hugh. It's ridiculous, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who can see through that (and I'm sure we're not the only ones).
Whats funny about this but really it so isn't ...
is that there are people reading this out there who are in big trouble with mental issues.
Who are at a breaking point about what to do with no place to go for help,
no money, no insurance, they were sent away already at the emergency room,
told...
sorry you haven't hurt yourself or someone else yet can't keep ya.
And you guys are talking crap about how I am speaking, :fp:
most especially since we have the king of rude to me here... of course...
can't stay away for some reason.
The thing is this whole industry is massively failing our youth, our elderly, our in
betweens. People are making nice comfortable and then some salaries
on those who are insured.
Those who aren't well whatever...
not my problem.
Well the young man driving wrong way on the road that night was a lot of peoples' problem.
His mental issues, now their problem.
All the family, friends the co workers, the church goers, the communities all suffered
because this boy had no help. I suffered.
Maybe someone reading suffered just a little at the thought of these lost lives.
Mulitply this by the number who are using whatever their weapon of choice
and we see it is everyone's problem.
When people can understand this then we will finally make progress to stop violence.
People need help and it can be provided, it is feasible, if everyone works together.
and there is now new studies approaching the idea it can bring on full blown
mental illness as in schizophreniaSubstance abuse can cause family violence
just to name a few
and sorry it doesn't perfectly fit for you....
But could you have a problem with cause and effect?
Like in the big picture...
Really?? I would like to see an article of these said studies from an nationally acclaimed journal, such as those approved by the AMA or the APA. Substance abuse may 'bring on' similar symptomology as these psychotic disorders (which is widely known), but it is not known that substance abuse develops into 'full blown' schizophrenia. If what I'm saying is wrong, it's news to me, and show me proof (and I will gladly eat my shoe--it's just something that I have never heard of without being concomitant, insofar as what you're saying). And substance abuse has the potential to cause violence?? What?? No way. :roll:
Whats funny about this but really it so isn't ...
is that there are people reading this out there who are in big trouble with mental issues.
Who are at a breaking point about what to do with no place to go for help,
no money, no insurance, they were sent away already at the emergency room,
told... sorry you haven't hurt yourself or someone else yet can't keep ya.
And you guys are talking crap about how I am speaking, :fp:
most especially since we have the king of rude to me here... of course...
can't stay away for some reason.
The thing is this whole industry is massively failing our youth, our elderly, our in
betweens. People are making nice comfortable and then some salaries
on those who are insured.
Those who aren't well whatever...
not my problem.
Well the young man driving wrong way on the road that night was a lot of peoples' problem.
His mental issues, now their problem.
All the family, friends the co workers, the church goers, the communities all suffered
because this boy had no help. I suffered.
Maybe someone reading suffered just a little at the thought of these lost lives.
Mulitply this by the number who are using whatever their weapon of choice
and we see it is everyone's problem.
When people can understand this then we will finally make progress to stop violence.
People need help and it can be provided, it is feasible, if everyone works together.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS ABOUT ME?? What do you know about me??
Again, ASSUMPTIONS.. you know what they say.. and I live with, and take care of, my elderly father, plus have a full time, low-paying job---PLUS lost my mom, whom my dad and I also took care of before her death.. I am nearly 40 years old and have had more impactful experiences than you can measure--because you don't freaking know them, nor realize.. but yet YOU--along with your interpretation of all these other faceless cases to whom you so readily refer from newspaper articles...have the placement to pass judgment on others... get a fucking grip (again, with all due respect).
and there is now new studies approaching the idea it can bring on full blown
mental illness as in schizophreniaSubstance abuse can cause family violence
just to name a few
and sorry it doesn't perfectly fit for you....
But could you have a problem with cause and effect?
Like in the big picture...
Really?? I would like to see an article of these said studies from an nationally acclaimed journal, such as those approved by the AMA or the APA. Substance abuse may 'bring on' similar symptomology as these psychotic disorders (which is widely known), but it is not known that substance abuse develops into 'full blown' schizophrenia. If what I'm saying is wrong, it's news to me, and show me proof (and I will gladly eat my shoe--it's just something that I have never heard of without being concomitant, insofar as what you're saying). And substance abuse has the potential to cause violence?? What?? No way. :roll:
Pandora said:
This on the list to make a person who needs help crack I'm sure...
this the people others rely on to help keep the from cracking ...
no wonder the people with mental issues are losing it
unfrickinbelievable
Pandora said:
Does the person care about your mumbo jumbo?
I know I don't ...
Pandora said:
Semantics again...
I was asked what I propose to do to help those with mental issues
and I came up with a solution of help.
All I hear is a bunch of crap on what to label someone.
now you are just being incredibly disrespectful and rude. you should probably quit.
thank you Hugh. It's ridiculous, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who can see through that (and I'm sure we're not the only ones).
Whats funny about this but really it so isn't ...
is that there are people reading this out there who are in big trouble with mental issues.
Who are at a breaking point about what to do with no place to go for help,
no money, no insurance, they were sent away already at the emergency room,
told...
sorry you haven't hurt yourself or someone else yet can't keep ya.
And you guys are talking crap about how I am speaking, :fp:
most especially since we have the king of rude to me here... of course...
can't stay away for some reason.
The thing is this whole industry is massively failing our youth, our elderly, our in
betweens. People are making nice comfortable and then some salaries
on those who are insured.
Those who aren't well whatever...
not my problem.
Well the young man driving wrong way on the road that night was a lot of peoples' problem.
His mental issues, now their problem.
All the family, friends the co workers, the church goers, the communities all suffered
because this boy had no help. I suffered.
Maybe someone reading suffered just a little at the thought of these lost lives.
Mulitply this by the number who are using whatever their weapon of choice
and we see it is everyone's problem.
When people can understand this then we will finally make progress to stop violence.
People need help and it can be provided, it is feasible, if everyone works together.
The pit should not be a source of mental health info or advice for anyone in need. Including what I've posted. Access a clinician directly, or NAMI or the mental health association.
Do you know the average salaries of clinicians, particularly those that work at community mental health centers? Typically $30k - $45k for those with advanced degrees and post grad clinical experience. Not exactly comfortable when you factor in the cost of student loans, required continuing education, licensure, malpractice insurance, etc.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
I saw this show about super massive black holes that pull everything in and there's pretty much... nothing they can do about it. That super massive black hole didn't have a superiority complex... or did it?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Damn! You have caught on to our evil plan! *insert evil laughter*
I'm going to strongly suggest that you refrain from the provocative and condescending comments. Stick to the issue.
To try and explain it, an injury is different from a disease which is different from an illness, right? A broken leg (injury) is different than a disease (cancer) and an illness (flu). Why do the names matter? Because they help us understand the origins and best treatments. The treatment for a broken leg is very different than the treatment for cancer. Now all these things can influence each other and impact the treatment as well. You can't group things together because they are very different. If you're going to help someone you better damn well make sure you understand the origin of the issue and the most effective treatment.
As Mickeyrat explained, substance abuse can in fact cause psychosis. I mentioned this very early on the thread. The treatment would be very different, however. In this case a substance is causing the psychosis and proper treatment would be to remove that substance from the system. Very different from schizophrenia which would require medication. On top of the addiction issues there may be underlying mental health issues. Both deserve treatment.
I'm not sure why I'm even explaining this anymore you have been successful in having a circular discussion veering way off topic. I'm not sure how we even got here my only point being the current system is overburdened and cannot meet your vision.
EmBleve thanks for you're input. It's spot on.
Cosmo - I will take that helmet now. I found myself explaining this to my cat, she got it. It's probably time to move on.
I get all this but what you obviously don't get ...
it doesn't matter a bit to the patient :fp:
they just need help before they hurt themselves or someone else
oh my...
like I said the system is failing our people obviously ...
not sure if you can blame the individuals working it but if this is a sample ...
I just don't know.
The best treatment for the boy driving the wrong way?
How about run some tests, rule out some serious physical illnesses, do an eval
on drugs used and how long. Set him up for follow up visits
counseling and proper medication....
all done at the Walk In Clinic ...
too bad it's too late for him and the beautiful family
but think of the others that can saved, maybe the next bomber and all the victims
could be hundreds.
I saw this show about super massive black holes that pull everything in and there's pretty much... nothing they can do about it. That super massive black hole didn't have a superiority complex... or did it?
taking a chance here, I have to answer, YES, it did... thus the pull it had (which is inexplicable, and aggravating.).
the king of rude to you? horse manure! you missy are rude as shit to just about everyone. you down talk others on here so much you push people away. i joke around and most folks can take and dish out comedy. you? no you can't.
i am the biggest feminist you'll ever know. everything is about women in my eyes. i root for you gals like nobody's business yet you clash with me because i make sense and don't accept shit handed to me on a bullshit platter. i smell a crusade and a high & mighty horse thousands of miles away. please come on down to reality.
i am sorry you dislike me so. i am sorry you're jealous and upset at me 24x7. i know your laws. you believe a man shouldn't have 17 girl friends. horse poop. i have 18 maybe 37. this burns your fanny somethin fierce. i'm frickin sorry women enjoy my company and i theirs. get off of me and debate properly.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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mickeyrat
up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,004
for what reason does a civilian have to own an ASSAULT weapon?
Target practice? Keep it at the range.
In my considered opinion a civilian has no business owqning or being allowed to own a weapon whose sole purpose in design is to kill a human being.
More often though the weapons used in these types of mass killings are semi auto handguns. Those are bad enough and could readily protect someones life if that scenario arose, so really dont see the need fpor military type assault weapons in the hands of civilians.
Yes I am for the 2 nd amendment, a well REGULATED MILITIA.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I saw this show about super massive black holes that pull everything in and there's pretty much... nothing they can do about it. That super massive black hole didn't have a superiority complex... or did it?
taking a chance here, I have to answer, YES, it did... thus the pull it had (which is inexplicable, and aggravating.).
...
So, you saw it too. When I was watching it... I was thinking, 'Man, that super massive black hole really sucks'.
...
Or maybe it was when i was watching internet free porn. I forget.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
The pit should not be a source of mental health info or advice for anyone in need. Including what I've posted. Access a clinician directly, or NAMI or the mental health association.
Do you know the average salaries of clinicians, particularly those that work at community mental health centers? Typically $30k - $45k for those with advanced degrees and post grad clinical experience. Not exactly comfortable when you factor in the cost of student loans, required continuing education, licensure, malpractice insurance, etc.
Actually that is pretty comfortable ...
better than a lot of people.
I know the Docs in the neighborhood make closer to 200 grand a year..
JB and I we are living on that now for the both of us ...
but then I don't buy shoes like I used to ( a pair of flip flops lasts a year)
or go see PJ anymore
I saw this show about super massive black holes that pull everything in and there's pretty much... nothing they can do about it. That super massive black hole didn't have a superiority complex... or did it?
taking a chance here, I have to answer, YES, it did... thus the pull it had (which is inexplicable, and aggravating.).
...
So, you saw it too. When I was watching it... I was thinking, 'Man, that super massive black hole really sucks'.
...
Or maybe it was when i was watching internet free porn. I forget.
Go in for radiotherapy, get a cast on your leg! Nah.... doesn't matter to the patient whether the professionals understand their ailment, whatever it may be.
for what reason does a civilian have to own an ASSAULT weapon?
Target practice? Keep it at the range.
In my considered opinion a civilian has no business owqning or being allowed to own a weapon whose sole purpose in design is to kill a human being.
More often though the weapons used in these types of mass killings are semi auto handguns. Those are bad enough and could readily protect someones life if that scenario arose, so really dont see the need fpor military type assault weapons in the hands of civilians.
Yes I am for the 2 nd amendment, a well REGULATED MILITIA.
If criminals have weapons like this then so should the law abiding.
Wonder which side of the Militia you might be on one day
Damn! You have caught on to our evil plan! *insert evil laughter*
I'm going to strongly suggest that you refrain from the provocative and condescending comments. Stick to the issue.
To try and explain it, an injury is different from a disease which is different from an illness, right? A broken leg (injury) is different than a disease (cancer) and an illness (flu). Why do the names matter? Because they help us understand the origins and best treatments. The treatment for a broken leg is very different than the treatment for cancer. Now all these things can influence each other and impact the treatment as well. You can't group things together because they are very different. If you're going to help someone you better damn well make sure you understand the origin of the issue and the most effective treatment.
As Mickeyrat explained, substance abuse can in fact cause psychosis. I mentioned this very early on the thread. The treatment would be very different, however. In this case a substance is causing the psychosis and proper treatment would be to remove that substance from the system. Very different from schizophrenia which would require medication. On top of the addiction issues there may be underlying mental health issues. Both deserve treatment.
I'm not sure why I'm even explaining this anymore you have been successful in having a circular discussion veering way off topic. I'm not sure how we even got here my only point being the current system is overburdened and cannot meet your vision.
EmBleve thanks for you're input. It's spot on.
Cosmo - I will take that helmet now. I found myself explaining this to my cat, she got it. It's probably time to move on.
I get all this but what you obviously don't get ...
it doesn't matter a bit to the patient :fp:
they just need help before they hurt themselves or someone else
oh my...
like I said the system is failing our people obviously ...
not sure if you can blame the individuals working it but if this is a sample ...
I just don't know.
The best treatment for the boy driving the wrong way?
How about run some tests, rule out some serious physical illnesses, do an eval
on drugs used and how long. Set him up for follow up visits
counseling and proper medication....
all done at the Walk In Clinic ...
too bad it's too late for him and the beautiful family
but think of the others that can saved, maybe the next bomber and all the victims
could be hundreds.
Oh but it matters very much to the patient. The patient needs someone that can make an accurate diagnosis, pick the appropriate treatment and administer it.
Yes the system is flailing. Absolutely. There is not enough funding, budgets are slashed, there's not enough trained clinicians and understandably many people don't want to enter the field. That needs to be fixed. Blaming the people who do the work and targeting them as being uncaring, unknowledgeable and suggesting they work for free because their incomes are too comfortable and they're not deserving of the occasional luxury is not helping the cause.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
The pit should not be a source of mental health info or advice for anyone in need. Including what I've posted. Access a clinician directly, or NAMI or the mental health association.
Do you know the average salaries of clinicians, particularly those that work at community mental health centers? Typically $30k - $45k for those with advanced degrees and post grad clinical experience. Not exactly comfortable when you factor in the cost of student loans, required continuing education, licensure, malpractice insurance, etc.
Actually that is pretty comfortable ...
better than a lot of people.
I know the Docs in the neighborhood make closer to 200 grand a year..
JB and I we are living on that now for the both of us ...
but then I don't buy shoes like I used to ( a pair of flip flops lasts a year)
or go see PJ anymore
What is your point again?
I don't have one. It got sucked into the black hole.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,792
Here we go again. Bugs Bunny pulls out his 6 shooter. Yosemite Sam pulls out an 8 shooter. Bugs a 10 shooter. Sam a 12 shooter. Bugs a 20 shooter. Sam a 50 shooter. Bugs a 100 shooter...
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Go in for radiotherapy, get a cast on your leg! Nah.... doesn't matter to the patient whether the professionals understand their ailment, whatever it may be.
So you think deep in depression behind the wheel of a car, going at 100 miles an hour,
in the wrong direction...
someone is going to give a rats ass?
No they want to see a doctor and get help but 200$ an hour is not possible.
In fact add another $300 for an application fee first visit $500 :shock:
The emergency room will fix that leg even without insurance
but they will not help a person with mental issues not until they hurt themselves or someone else.
To try and explain it, an injury is different from a disease which is different from an illness, right? A broken leg (injury) is different than a disease (cancer) and an illness (flu). Why do the names matter? Because they help us understand the origins and best treatments. The treatment for a broken leg is very different than the treatment for cancer. Now all these things can influence each other and impact the treatment as well. You can't group things together because they are very different. If you're going to help someone you better damn well make sure you understand the origin of the issue and the most effective treatment.
As Mickeyrat explained, substance abuse can in fact cause psychosis. I mentioned this very early on the thread. The treatment would be very different, however. In this case a substance is causing the psychosis and proper treatment would be to remove that substance from the system. Very different from schizophrenia which would require medication. On top of the addiction issues there may be underlying mental health issues. Both deserve treatment.
I'm not sure why I'm even explaining this anymore you have been successful in having a circular discussion veering way off topic. I'm not sure how we even got here my only point being the current system is overburdened and cannot meet your vision.
EmBleve thanks for you're input. It's spot on.
Cosmo - I will take that helmet now. I found myself explaining this to my cat, she got it. It's probably time to move on.
Thank you!--not only for the highlighted comment, but also for your knowledge, and your diplomatic way of putting things in perspective (which I personally lack, especially in the face of such subject idealistic ignorance).
Go in for radiotherapy, get a cast on your leg! Nah.... doesn't matter to the patient whether the professionals understand their ailment, whatever it may be.
thank you for this highlight redrock...you, yourself, are spot on in this revelation. Subjectivity vs. objectivity...
Go in for radiotherapy, get a cast on your leg! Nah.... doesn't matter to the patient whether the professionals understand their ailment, whatever it may be.
So you think deep in depression behind the wheel of a car, going at 100 miles an hour,
in the wrong direction...
someone is going to give a rats ass?
No they want to see a doctor and get help but 200$ an hour is not possible.
In fact add another $300 for an application fee first visit $500 :shock:
The emergency room will fix that leg even without insurance
but they will not help a person with mental issues not until they hurt themselves or someone else.
Great analogy ...
You forgot to highlight the 'whatever it may be'. It seemed you needed something a bit more 'grounded' and not 'mumbo jumbo' to explain differences in ailments and the importance to the patient of correct diagnosis. Again important to the patient as he/she will then get correct treatment.
The emergency room will fix that leg even without insurance
but they will not help a person with mental issues not until they hurt themselves or someone else.
Great analogy ...
they are not allowed to Pandora... but your misconception is that you seem to think that health care providers don't WANT to... you're speaking of emergency room occurrences here...which raises the question that has been asked of you without a response...what is your solution???? In actual terms (not idealistic)....they can only protect them by law for 72 hours..if they don't have a bed somewhere, they are discharged. What is your solution?
You forgot to highlight the 'whatever it may be'. It seemed you needed something a bit more 'grounded' and not 'mumbo jumbo' to explain differences in ailments and the importance to the patient of correct diagnosis. Again important to the patient as he/she will then get correct treatment.
THANK YOU!! And the hypocrisy/ignorance/idealism continues....
The emergency room will fix that leg even without insurance
but they will not help a person with mental issues not until they hurt themselves or someone else.
Great analogy ...
and if they don't have insurance or medicaid, that person is going to get a bill for that treatment, regardless of the cause or underlying issues.. And they will help persons with mental problems.. for 72 hours.. the issue with such persons is finding a bed somewhere. FIND A BED PANDORA. Find one.
Oh but it matters very much to the patient. The patient needs someone that can make an accurate diagnosis, pick the appropriate treatment and administer it.
Yes the system is flailing. Absolutely. There is not enough funding, budgets are slashed, there's not enough trained clinicians and understandably many people don't want to enter the field. That needs to be fixed. Blaming the people who do the work and targeting them as being uncaring, unknowledgeable and suggesting they work for free because their incomes are too comfortable and they're not deserving of the occasional luxury is not helping the cause.
No that is what you worry about not the guy with the bomb
ready to take out hundreds...
he's not thinking about what or who only fix me.
But he has no way to get fixed.
I have a feeling people would figure out pretty quick what was wrong with him
if they had a chance.
So yes the system is failing the people, even with the millions spent
and not one positive suggestion here to add to my free Walk in Clinics
or my Bitch in Clinics as my lad suggested....
hmmm that really says a lot....
Lets just take guns away so much easier but solves nothing in our society
the wrong way drivers, bombers will be have another weapon of choice,
the illegal guns will still be available probably more so.
Address the real problem the person and why they are distraught,
what help do they need before they hurt themselves or others.
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mickeyrat
up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,004
you know wjhats crazy?
Having a "debate" about mental health issues in a thread about mass shootings and guns.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Says who? You? As mentioned numerous times on this thread by professionals, a lot of people do not seek help because they don't want to. Don't see the necessity (the 'chin up, I'll be OK' factor) or don't want to because of all the stigma and everthing else attached to this.
But then, these ladies here, who's line of expertise this is, are just talking mumbo jumbo and don't really know what it's all about...
Wake up please and try to be open to those who actually 'know' (don't worry, I'm not including myself in this) and talk facts.
Comments
is that there are people reading this out there who are in big trouble with mental issues.
Who are at a breaking point about what to do with no place to go for help,
no money, no insurance, they were sent away already at the emergency room,
told...
sorry you haven't hurt yourself or someone else yet can't keep ya.
And you guys are talking crap about how I am speaking, :fp:
most especially since we have the king of rude to me here... of course...
can't stay away for some reason.
The thing is this whole industry is massively failing our youth, our elderly, our in
betweens. People are making nice comfortable and then some salaries
on those who are insured.
Those who aren't well whatever...
not my problem.
Well the young man driving wrong way on the road that night was a lot of peoples' problem.
His mental issues, now their problem.
All the family, friends the co workers, the church goers, the communities all suffered
because this boy had no help. I suffered.
Maybe someone reading suffered just a little at the thought of these lost lives.
Mulitply this by the number who are using whatever their weapon of choice
and we see it is everyone's problem.
When people can understand this then we will finally make progress to stop violence.
People need help and it can be provided, it is feasible, if everyone works together.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS ABOUT ME?? What do you know about me??
Again, ASSUMPTIONS.. you know what they say.. and I live with, and take care of, my elderly father, plus have a full time, low-paying job---PLUS lost my mom, whom my dad and I also took care of before her death.. I am nearly 40 years old and have had more impactful experiences than you can measure--because you don't freaking know them, nor realize.. but yet YOU--along with your interpretation of all these other faceless cases to whom you so readily refer from newspaper articles...have the placement to pass judgment on others... get a fucking grip (again, with all due respect).
Do you know the average salaries of clinicians, particularly those that work at community mental health centers? Typically $30k - $45k for those with advanced degrees and post grad clinical experience. Not exactly comfortable when you factor in the cost of student loans, required continuing education, licensure, malpractice insurance, etc.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Hail, Hail!!!
it doesn't matter a bit to the patient :fp:
they just need help before they hurt themselves or someone else
oh my...
like I said the system is failing our people obviously ...
not sure if you can blame the individuals working it but if this is a sample ...
I just don't know.
The best treatment for the boy driving the wrong way?
How about run some tests, rule out some serious physical illnesses, do an eval
on drugs used and how long. Set him up for follow up visits
counseling and proper medication....
all done at the Walk In Clinic ...
too bad it's too late for him and the beautiful family
but think of the others that can saved, maybe the next bomber and all the victims
could be hundreds.
i am the biggest feminist you'll ever know. everything is about women in my eyes. i root for you gals like nobody's business yet you clash with me because i make sense and don't accept shit handed to me on a bullshit platter. i smell a crusade and a high & mighty horse thousands of miles away. please come on down to reality.
i am sorry you dislike me so. i am sorry you're jealous and upset at me 24x7. i know your laws. you believe a man shouldn't have 17 girl friends. horse poop. i have 18 maybe 37. this burns your fanny somethin fierce. i'm frickin sorry women enjoy my company and i theirs. get off of me and debate properly.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Target practice? Keep it at the range.
In my considered opinion a civilian has no business owqning or being allowed to own a weapon whose sole purpose in design is to kill a human being.
More often though the weapons used in these types of mass killings are semi auto handguns. Those are bad enough and could readily protect someones life if that scenario arose, so really dont see the need fpor military type assault weapons in the hands of civilians.
Yes I am for the 2 nd amendment, a well REGULATED MILITIA.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
So, you saw it too. When I was watching it... I was thinking, 'Man, that super massive black hole really sucks'.
...
Or maybe it was when i was watching internet free porn. I forget.
Hail, Hail!!!
better than a lot of people.
I know the Docs in the neighborhood make closer to 200 grand a year..
JB and I we are living on that now for the both of us ...
but then I don't buy shoes like I used to ( a pair of flip flops lasts a year)
or go see PJ anymore
What is your point again?
Go in for radiotherapy, get a cast on your leg! Nah.... doesn't matter to the patient whether the professionals understand their ailment, whatever it may be.
Wonder which side of the Militia you might be on one day
Yes the system is flailing. Absolutely. There is not enough funding, budgets are slashed, there's not enough trained clinicians and understandably many people don't want to enter the field. That needs to be fixed. Blaming the people who do the work and targeting them as being uncaring, unknowledgeable and suggesting they work for free because their incomes are too comfortable and they're not deserving of the occasional luxury is not helping the cause.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
So you think deep in depression behind the wheel of a car, going at 100 miles an hour,
in the wrong direction...
someone is going to give a rats ass?
No they want to see a doctor and get help but 200$ an hour is not possible.
In fact add another $300 for an application fee first visit $500 :shock:
The emergency room will fix that leg even without insurance
but they will not help a person with mental issues
not until they hurt themselves or someone else.
Great analogy ...
You forgot to highlight the 'whatever it may be'. It seemed you needed something a bit more 'grounded' and not 'mumbo jumbo' to explain differences in ailments and the importance to the patient of correct diagnosis. Again important to the patient as he/she will then get correct treatment.
No that is what you worry about not the guy with the bomb
ready to take out hundreds...
he's not thinking about what or who only fix me.
But he has no way to get fixed.
I have a feeling people would figure out pretty quick what was wrong with him
if they had a chance.
So yes the system is failing the people, even with the millions spent
and not one positive suggestion here to add to my free Walk in Clinics
or my Bitch in Clinics as my lad suggested....
hmmm that really says a lot....
Lets just take guns away so much easier but solves nothing in our society
the wrong way drivers, bombers will be have another weapon of choice,
the illegal guns will still be available probably more so.
Address the real problem the person and why they are distraught,
what help do they need before they hurt themselves or others.
Having a "debate" about mental health issues in a thread about mass shootings and guns.
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Says who? You? As mentioned numerous times on this thread by professionals, a lot of people do not seek help because they don't want to. Don't see the necessity (the 'chin up, I'll be OK' factor) or don't want to because of all the stigma and everthing else attached to this.
But then, these ladies here, who's line of expertise this is, are just talking mumbo jumbo and don't really know what it's all about...
Wake up please and try to be open to those who actually 'know' (don't worry, I'm not including myself in this) and talk facts.