well that would require changing the constitution...let's get chad in there first...your bride can be secretary of health & human services and secretary of shoes :P
sounds good to me...is this a prono bono position, or will I get paid for it? Hopefully paid in shoes :oops:
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Why do we keep on having 'mental illness' and 'crime' in the same sentence as if they're Siamese twins?
cos its easy to say is the reason to blame... ..is the way to hide all the gaps the system have....
and face the real problem,which is the way of life we living and supporting,..the one doesnt give hope or future..
so...we are all crazy..and problem solved......
undiagnosed and untreated mental illness is a factor in crime,
drug abuse, suicide, mass murder, domestic violence
It is also a factor in people not holding jobs, dropping out of society,
giving their children negative examples to live by.
One would think a caring human being would be inclined to want to help
another human being trapped in a terrible place.
Do we think most kids want to do hard drugs, turn to crime, carry a gun, shoot someone?
Do we think most mass shooters want to kill people or are they driven by hate, revenge
and loss of hope in their own lives? all signs of depression, many suicidal without
anywhere to go before they hurt others or themselves.
Not the gun but the person holding the gun, it is their motives for having the gun
this the root of the problem with guns not guns themselves.
Why do we keep on having 'mental illness' and 'crime' in the same sentence as if they're Siamese twins?
cos its easy to say is the reason to blame... ..is the way to hide all the gaps the system have....
and face the real problem,which is the way of life we living and supporting,..the one doesnt give hope or future..
so...we are all crazy..and problem solved......
undiagnosed and untreated mental illness is a factor in crime,
drug abuse, suicide, mass murder, domestic violence
It is also a factor in people not holding jobs, dropping out of society,
giving their children negative examples to live by.
One would think a caring human being would be inclined to want to help
another human being trapped in a terrible place.
Do we think most kids want to do hard drugs, turn to crime, carry a gun, shoot someone?
Do we think most mass shooters want to kill people or are they driven by hate, revenge
and loss of hope in their own lives? all signs of depression, many suicidal without
anywhere to go before they hurt others or themselves.
Not the gun but the person holding the gun, it is their motives for having the gun
this the root of the problem with guns not guns themselves.
Yes mental illness is ONE factor in 3-5% of crime, so clearly the way to resolve the issue is to ignore the other factors and the other 95-97% of crimes. People do want to help those living with mental illness. Perhaps that should be addressed on a separate thread.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
]Yes mental illness is ONE factor in 3-5% of crime, so clearly the way to resolve the issue is to ignore the other factors and the other 95-97% of crimes.
haven't you figured it out yet? facts are not welcome in this thread. opinion rules!
I hope you don't mind me quoting only part of your post. I hope I didn't take it out of context of the full thought.
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Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
But why would someone not want to eradicate mental illness and crime?
At least try to address the cause?
Help people who need help who have none?
I bet that doctor would feel really good at the end of that day...
is that something you can embrace?
can you and your husband afford to work for free to help the homeless? no? well, this is the same premise...
I already work for free to help the homeless...
how about you?
Why would you assume no? :fp:
do you work one full day every week pro bono throughout your career?
Zoso is driving so I'm responding for him he sort of dedicates his life to this working 2 jobs at 80 hours a week working with autistic kids and homeless adolescents while going to school FT. He said he didn't mean it as an attack on you, but that most workers can't even afford to work once a month per free due to low pay
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
]Yes mental illness is ONE factor in 3-5% of crime, so clearly the way to resolve the issue is to ignore the other factors and the other 95-97% of crimes.
haven't you figured it out yet? facts are not welcome in this thread. opinion rules!
I hope you don't mind me quoting only part of your post. I hope I didn't take it out of context of the full thought.
damn being all logical! I get what you're saying :cool:
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
But why would someone not want to eradicate mental illness and crime?
At least try to address the cause?
Help people who need help who have none?
I bet that doctor would feel really good at the end of that day...
is that something you can embrace?
But why would someone not want to eradicate guns and innocent deaths?
your right to be alive is more important than your right to own a gun don't you think?
plus it's easier to control guns/gun laws than it is to eradicate mental illness and crime.... what you're asking for is the same as asking for world peace and zero famine.... just never gonna happen.
some people who have a mental illness dont even KNOW they have a mental illness.... how would you solve that?
Who is holding the guns causing the innocent to die?
Who has saved their own lives just because they had the right to own a gun?
I don't want easy I want fair and I want to help those who need help
not turn our backs on them which effects ever aspect of our lives here in the US
not just gun violence.
Each shooter lately ...someone knew they had a big problem...
ticking time bomb.... I would solve that by having families and loved ones not only informed
but able to seek help and get it for their loved one.
What works in Scotland will not work here. Same with the other European countries
and Canada. It won't because of the illegal guns available, the illegal immigrant crime,
the nonimmigrant crime, the mount of illegal drugs and addicts, the social services
destruction that is draining our country, the position of our country and what is expected
monetarily, militarily etc in the world arena.
I believe your country is less than the size of Maine. To compare our country to yours is ridiculous.
But perhaps guns could be banned in Maine...
if all the citizens voted so.
Even if they did there's illegal guns available for the taking and people understand this
one of the reasons why they own guns, criminals will always have guns.
I already work for free to help the homeless...
how about you?
Why would you assume no? :fp:
do you work one full day every week pro bono throughout your career?
You mean you would not give that up to save lives
really?
One day a week?
How about one day every other week? Everyone can have less pay, live with less ...
less f'in shoes for sure :fp:
It's called giving to make a difference ... unselfishness to make a change
Of course I would volunteer one day a week to bring people
back from the brink, to help them live a life that is happy and fulfilled,
seems a small thing to give up.
Again can you embrace the happiness from that?
I already work for free to help the homeless...
how about you?
Why would you assume no? :fp:
do you work one full day every week pro bono throughout your career?
You mean you would not give that up to save lives
really?
One day a week?
How about one day every other week? Everyone can have less pay, live with less ...
less f'in shoes for sure :fp:
It's called giving to make a difference ... unselfishness to make a change
Of course I would volunteer one day a week to bring people
back from the brink, to help them live a life that is happy and fulfilled,
seems a small thing to give up.
Again can you embrace the happiness from that?
Or is that only found in shoe buying?
Did you read my other posts? I help people every day. Have for 16 years. Making 1/3 of the pay I could with the same education in another career, so it's pretty much already pro bono;). Not to mention I did 2 years of pro bono work and I volunteer. If you can find time in my schedule to donate more time, please have at it. Let me eat cake pandora as a clinician I deserve no luxuries
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
So you DON'T give up one day per week of pay from your 'day job' to work for free. You 'would' but you don't.
So don't insult other people by saying...
You mean you would not give that up to save lives
really?
less f'in shoes for sure :fp:
It's called giving to make a difference ... unselfishness to make a change
Again can you embrace the happiness from that?
Or is that only found in shoe buying?
I'm sure most of us here do volunteering work ON TOP of our day job (and other commitments) but one doesn't go bragging about it or insult others without knowing, I guess.
Don't you just love the smell of condescension in the morning... smell like... bait.
I'd like a little carrot cake on the end of that hook
I make a mean carrot cake. That is if I still have the time after working, volunteering, caring, taking care of the house, laundry, etc. Oh yeah... and shoe shopping!
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
So you DON'T give up one day per week of pay from your 'day job' to work for free. You 'would' but you don't.
So don't insult other people by saying...
You mean you would not give that up to save lives
really?
less f'in shoes for sure :fp:
It's called giving to make a difference ... unselfishness to make a change
Again can you embrace the happiness from that?
Or is that only found in shoe buying?
I'm sure most of us here do volunteering work ON TOP of our day job (and other commitments) but one doesn't go bragging about it or insult others without knowing, I guess.
well clearly the therapists making $30k per year and working 2 jobs can afford to give up some pay to work for free, not the business owners making high 6 figure incomes.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Don't you just love the smell of condescension in the morning... smell like... bait.
I'd like a little carrot cake on the end of that hook
I make a mean carrot cake. That is if I still have the time after working, volunteering, caring, taking care of the house, laundry, etc. Oh yeah... and shoe shopping!
Well clearly you aren't doing enough I would love to sample that cake :mrgreen;
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Did you read my other posts? I help people every day. Have for 16 years. Making 1/3 of the pay I could with the same education in another career, so it's pretty much already pro bono;). Not to mention I did 2 years of pro bono work and I volunteer. If you can find time in my schedule to donate more time, please have at it. Let me eat cake pandora as a cliniciaThen i assume you answer is you give to a plan like tis tom make it workn I deserve no luxuries
Then I assume your answer is yes you would give time to a program like this.
Walk in clinics, free easily available for all ...
those considering blowing their brains out,
those thinking of coming to their workplace to take out the snobby snots,
those planning to set the house on fire with their loved ones inside,
those on and on and on...
helping the distraught, the addicted, the delusional before they hurt themselves or others....
its a worthy cause that will save millions.
I'd like a little carrot cake on the end of that hook
...
Restraint, my young Padawan princess... temptation to feast upon that which is laid at your feet, you must resist. Circular logic, it is laden with... escape, you cannot. To the dark side, it will lead... where exists, neither reason nor logic... and even the pure light of fact and truth cannot penetrate.
...
In other words, don't bite... it tastes like shit. Trust me.
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Hail, Hail!!!
Then I assume your answer is yes you would give time to a program like this.
Walk in clinics, free easily available for all ...
those considering blowing their brains out,
those thinking of coming to their workplace to take out the snobby snots,
those planning to set the house on fire with their loved ones inside,
those on and on and on...
helping the distraught, the addicted, the delusional before they hurt themselves or others....
its a worthy cause that will save millions.
I'm telling you it's my life's work. People don't enter the field for the money or the fabulous lifestyle. They do it for the love of helping others, and rather than volunteering they make a life of it, willingly giving up a much nicer lifestyle if they sought a career in a different field with the same or less education. I see clients for free when needed (forgoing pay in my fee for service position). Outside of my 2 jobs I volunteer with DV survivors. And I'm on call 24/7 for free. All my co-workers do the same But my point is IT'S NOT ENOUGH. Although your idea is a nice one, it's not feasible. Workers are already overworked and required to do pro bono work. Your ideas won't within the current system.
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"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
I'd like a little carrot cake on the end of that hook
...
Restraint, my young Padawan princess... temptation to feast upon that which is laid at your feet, you must resist. Circular logic, it is laden with... escape, you cannot. To the dark side, it will lead... where exists, neither reason nor logic... and even the pure light of fact and truth cannot penetrate.
...
In other words, don't bite... it tastes like shit. Trust me.
Thanks :cool: I can resist. Fortunately my hot buttons were disabled long ago
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Yes mental illness is ONE factor in 3-5% of crime, so clearly the way to resolve the issue is to ignore the other factors and the other 95-97% of crimes. People do want to help those living with mental illness. Perhaps that should be addressed on a separate thread.
Are these the same statistics that don't recognize road rage, anger issues,
domestic violence, child addicts, revenge mass shooters, suicidal thoughts, hate crimes,
workplace retaliation cause these and much more are all related to mental problems
that are undiagnosed nor treated.
If that wasn't so sad and twisted it would be laughable.
I told my son at lunch about my ideas... the walk in clinics...
he thought it was awesome and very much needed by the young.
I asked for suggestions and we joked at his thoughts...
The bitch-in clinic ...
someplace to go to rant when people are on their last nerve, literally,
sometimes just talking and having a professional listen is all that is needed.
But who's got 200$ an hour?
Then there could also be solutions depending on the problems,
like this last fella who was being evicted, he could talk with someone
who could maybe help with a solution besides helping address any mental issues.
He's dead now instead along with an innocent person....
when he could have been given care and hope.
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"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
drug abuse, suicide, mass murder, domestic violence
It is also a factor in people not holding jobs, dropping out of society,
giving their children negative examples to live by.
One would think a caring human being would be inclined to want to help
another human being trapped in a terrible place.
Do we think most kids want to do hard drugs, turn to crime, carry a gun, shoot someone?
Do we think most mass shooters want to kill people or are they driven by hate, revenge
and loss of hope in their own lives? all signs of depression, many suicidal without
anywhere to go before they hurt others or themselves.
Not the gun but the person holding the gun, it is their motives for having the gun
this the root of the problem with guns not guns themselves.
how about you?
Why would you assume no? :fp:
can I have some Pearl Jam shoes, please?
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
haven't you figured it out yet? facts are not welcome in this thread. opinion rules!
I hope you don't mind me quoting only part of your post. I hope I didn't take it out of context of the full thought.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Zoso is driving so I'm responding for him
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Who has saved their own lives just because they had the right to own a gun?
I don't want easy I want fair and I want to help those who need help
not turn our backs on them which effects ever aspect of our lives here in the US
not just gun violence.
Each shooter lately ...someone knew they had a big problem...
ticking time bomb....
I would solve that by having families and loved ones not only informed
but able to seek help and get it for their loved one.
What works in Scotland will not work here. Same with the other European countries
and Canada. It won't because of the illegal guns available, the illegal immigrant crime,
the nonimmigrant crime, the mount of illegal drugs and addicts, the social services
destruction that is draining our country, the position of our country and what is expected
monetarily, militarily etc in the world arena.
I believe your country is less than the size of Maine. To compare our country to yours is ridiculous.
But perhaps guns could be banned in Maine...
if all the citizens voted so.
Even if they did there's illegal guns available for the taking and people understand this
one of the reasons why they own guns, criminals will always have guns.
I'm a size 12-13. You know what they say about a guy with big feet, don't you?
they have a hard time finding shoes.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
12.5 is impossible to find. I always have to move up to 13
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
really?
One day a week?
How about one day every other week?
Everyone can have less pay, live with less ...
less f'in shoes for sure :fp:
It's called giving to make a difference ... unselfishness to make a change
Of course I would volunteer one day a week to bring people
back from the brink, to help them live a life that is happy and fulfilled,
seems a small thing to give up.
Again can you embrace the happiness from that?
Or is that only found in shoe buying?
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Hail, Hail!!!
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
So you DON'T give up one day per week of pay from your 'day job' to work for free. You 'would' but you don't.
So don't insult other people by saying...
You mean you would not give that up to save lives
really?
less f'in shoes for sure :fp:
It's called giving to make a difference ... unselfishness to make a change
Again can you embrace the happiness from that?
Or is that only found in shoe buying?
I'm sure most of us here do volunteering work ON TOP of our day job (and other commitments) but one doesn't go bragging about it or insult others without knowing, I guess.
I make a mean carrot cake. That is if I still have the time after working, volunteering, caring, taking care of the house, laundry, etc. Oh yeah... and shoe shopping!
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
And I took it... :oops:
Oh well.. Off to the pub now, followed by a meal at our lovely curry place!
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Then I assume your answer is yes you would give time to a program like this.
Walk in clinics, free easily available for all ...
those considering blowing their brains out,
those thinking of coming to their workplace to take out the snobby snots,
those planning to set the house on fire with their loved ones inside,
those on and on and on...
helping the distraught, the addicted, the delusional before they hurt themselves or others....
its a worthy cause that will save millions.
Restraint, my young Padawan princess... temptation to feast upon that which is laid at your feet, you must resist. Circular logic, it is laden with... escape, you cannot. To the dark side, it will lead... where exists, neither reason nor logic... and even the pure light of fact and truth cannot penetrate.
...
In other words, don't bite... it tastes like shit. Trust me.
Hail, Hail!!!
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Are these the same statistics that don't recognize road rage, anger issues,
domestic violence, child addicts, revenge mass shooters, suicidal thoughts, hate crimes,
workplace retaliation cause these and much more are all related to mental problems
that are undiagnosed nor treated.
If that wasn't so sad and twisted it would be laughable.
I told my son at lunch about my ideas... the walk in clinics...
he thought it was awesome and very much needed by the young.
I asked for suggestions and we joked at his thoughts...
The bitch-in clinic ...
someplace to go to rant when people are on their last nerve, literally,
sometimes just talking and having a professional listen is all that is needed.
But who's got 200$ an hour?
Then there could also be solutions depending on the problems,
like this last fella who was being evicted, he could talk with someone
who could maybe help with a solution besides helping address any mental issues.
He's dead now instead along with an innocent person....
when he could have been given care and hope.