Nugent pleads guilty over illegal bear killing

chadwick

what is going on? i feel i have been in a fucking whirlwind holy fucking out of this world encounter just by being on here. my fucking soul has been beat up and now scarred by this ridiculous bullshit.

like i have said before. i am leaving 10c and may never return

i need a meat lover's pizza, a gallon of pink lemonade, 4 cup cakes, a gallon of honey, a truck load of gravel, 14 fantastic pornographic magazines, a industrial tub of go-to-town lubrication, and a bucket of sand

redrock

pandora wrote:

markin ball wrote:

pandora wrote:

I'm not a hunter but am also not opposed to trophy hunting

Really? Killing something (that has a mother or babies) just to say you did or for decorative purposes is okay? How do you reconcile that as being acceptable behavior?

I love animals and relocate spiders .

.... yet you approve/condone the unscrupulous killing of animals for no other reason that to fulfill some sick ego trip, the rarer/bigger the animal, the better the 'decoration'? Something doesn't quite sound right here. Or maybe it's just because spiders don't make good trophies that they are worth 'relocating'...

markin ball

pandora wrote:

markin ball wrote:

pandora wrote:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... ugent.html

I guess there are articles on both sides of the fence as we keep seeing

I'm not a hunter but am also not opposed to trophy hunting, as you appear to be.

Every person makes their choices it is not my choice to judge others.[/quote]

Really? Killing something (that has a mother or babies) just to say you did or for decorative purposes is okay? How do you reconcile that as being acceptable behavior? It seems impossible for me to do so.

I love animals and relocate spiders I'm no kill though not a vegetarian anymore
but I can not judge others for being hunters. 15 years ago but not anymore.
Judging others is really wrong, it is simple to me.

I get it about the judging. I'm no saint and I'm sure others might determine some of my actions are/were unaccepatble, but that's not necessarily saying that "Markin Ball" is bad. I'm not asking you to judge anyone as a person. I'm asking how you about their behavior. You find that judging is wrong as a behavior? How can you find trophy hunting to be an acceptable behavior?

JonnyPistachio

pandora wrote:

You have friends that are big game trophy hunters?
well that shows how open minded you are. It is not for you
but you can say to each their own.

Ted is not a friend but I can do the same for him like I would other's choices.
As I mentioned about the thrill of the hunt/kill, I can't relate,
it is not a defense, it is fact.
Neither is comparing it to the general excitement some people feel
through other violence.
It is a matter of fact statement not defense.
I am unbiased when it coms to Ted which from the start in many threads is not true for others.

I am ok with hunting if within legal boundaries which I have mentioned alot
but not for myself. Just cause I won't do it doesn't mean others shouldn't.
Some here have debated without that, assuming we should only encourage what
is right for own selves,
this obvious by the numerous times I have been asked if I could do it :?

Pandora, I really think that is a great way to live for some people (to not judge). And I commend you for that. And I am not trying to offend...but I only judge Nugent or other trophy hunters because I don't think the victims are able to stand up for themselves. And it is simply my natural response to feel sickened by these actions -- so I speak up. I'll be the first to admit, I came in with a bias, because it sickens me, people who shit where they live and don't care for certain things.

Yes, I'd actually like to go back on one thing -- I don't have friends that do trophy hunting...I have acquaintances. I've honestly never met a person who does trophy hunting that has enough in common with me to call them a friend.

Cosmo

redrock wrote:

.... yet you approve/condone the unscrupulous killing of animals for no other reason that to fulfill some sick ego trip, the rarer/bigger the animal, the better the 'decoration'? Something doesn't quite sound right here. Or maybe it's just because spiders don't make good trophies that they are worth 'relocating'...

...
That makes sense... I guess. I mean, It's pretty easy to scoop up a spider in your hands and toss him out into the ivy.
I suppose it would be a lot tougher with White Rhinos or Snow Leopards in the bathroom sink. Kind of hard to carry them to the front door.

redrock

chadwick wrote:

i need..... 4 cup cakes.....

Made some red velvet and some lavender ones this afternoon. Will have one of each to your health! Not sure about the rest of your 'needs' though!

BinauralJam

Cosmo

BinauralJam wrote:

...
Mmmmm... looks delicious!

BinauralJam

"Where is the rest of this Moose?"

BinauralJam

BinauralJam

chadwick

horrorific

BinauralJam

josevolution

Brutal ...

BinauralJam

BinauralJam

Buffalo Skulls

BinauralJam

Cosmo wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

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Mmmmm... looks delicious!

i'll take your word, i've never treid old man before

Godfather.

whygohome wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

whygohome wrote:

Nugent is such a tough guy. Typical loudmouth pussy: all bark and no bite. It's good to see what a patriot he is, like his boys Bush and Cheney. Draft dodgers and cowards, like the tough guy warmongerers on this board.

"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." ~Jean-Paul Sartre


http://blog.reidreport.com/2012/04/ted- ... ft-dodger/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101722838

great post ! if I thought you knew what you were talking about I might be offended.....NAHH.

Godfather.

A dude whose spelling is worse than my 3 year old nephew's telling me I don't know what I am talking about?
That's rich.

A draft dodger who supports war is a coward. A citizen who supports war and doesn't enlist is a coward. Quite simple.

all the sudden if a person is in college and does not make the draft he's a koward (spelling just for you buddy)
now coming from a group that want's to down size our military and blames every famin or conflict on the US ?
now that's rich my friend ...maybe not you I'm not sure but it seems that just about 80% of the train whines and crys about wars but now that we are talking about Ted...only a koward avoids war ?..bro we gotta work on spicific defenations of kowardness and what wars are bad or gud

and my spelling....whata ya nu here ? but if you have a problem reading my posts ask your nephew to help you desipher my code. or if you can figure it out all on your own I am proud of you and offer a signed deploma by me for your crafty mind and ability to think outside the box. :thumbup:

Godfather.
CEO and Founder of creative spelling*colleges for the verbally gifted.
PM Godfather for class avalibility and times or work at your own speed
with my on line classes.

g under p

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

there is not much to dwell on. there is not much to study. there is not much to contemplate. there is not much to ponder. there is not much to understand.

a small wikileaks cache worth of evidence has been presented and the conclusion is obvious.

the man gets off on having sex with underage girls. this is illegal, yet somehow is kosher with some people on here.

the man does not engage anything or anyone that might harm him while defending itself. he is pro war but refused to fight. this is cowardice. somehow it is ok with some people on here.

he gets off on killing things.

both legally and illegally.

the posters who are defending nugent in this thread also tried to defend zimmerman in the trayvon martin thread by saying the same things. that they were trying to understand him.

it is just a feeble attempt to try to justify and validate ted nugent's actions. to me there is no defending nugent. in my opinion if you are not against his actions, then by default you support them.

This post should NOT go unnoticed. I can't understand those who may want understand a person such as Ted Nugent. It sort of like that kind of a person wants to justify walking on a fence making sure to NOT admit he's done many wrongs that many have strong opinions on that they MUST speak up on what he's done in his past. It appears he's continuing to still do some of them.

I rather hear from those who say I straight up I love the guy no matter what his past crimes or indiscretions have been. Now I can understand that point of view rather those who want to play both sides in that they come off appearing to be defending them or him.

Should we try to understand OJ, Charles Manson or the DC Sniper...yes we can study their cases but what really does it mean to understand these people and their actions?

Peace

pandora

markin ball wrote:

I get it about the judging. I'm no saint and I'm sure others might determine some of my actions are/were unaccepatble, but that's not necessarily saying that "Markin Ball" is bad. I'm not asking you to judge anyone as a person. I'm asking how you about their behavior. You find that judging is wrong as a behavior? How can you find trophy hunting to be an acceptable behavior?

I can not tell others what they themselves need to learn. I have learned what I have
on my path. I have learned to accept the fact that there are people
on this earth who hunt, for trophy and to eat.
The time may come in their lives that they will find what they do to be wrong.
I have also wrongly judged hunters hearts in the past. That is on me.
I feel judging is wrong and it comes way to easy for others...
in fact it seems a past time these days

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